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What is up? Sorry for the long intro,

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What is up? Sorry for the long intro,
 

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What is up? Sorry for the long intro,
but we needed people to have time to

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but we needed people to have time to
 

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but we needed people to have time to
come in. Sure, sure, sure. I was riveted

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come in. Sure, sure, sure. I was riveted
 

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come in. Sure, sure, sure. I was riveted
the whole time. Hey, look, I threw that

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the whole time. Hey, look, I threw that
 

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the whole time. Hey, look, I threw that
together in the last 15 minutes, so

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together in the last 15 minutes, so
 

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together in the last 15 minutes, so
please, of course, I cobbled together a

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please, of course, I cobbled together a
 

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please, of course, I cobbled together a
few things that were already made. But,

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few things that were already made. But,
 

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few things that were already made. But,
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uh
 

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uh
Dave, Professor Dave, massive YouTube

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Dave, Professor Dave, massive YouTube
 

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Dave, Professor Dave, massive YouTube
channel, man. You do science, you're a

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channel, man. You do science, you're a
 

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channel, man. You do science, you're a
communicator, educator, awesome stuff

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communicator, educator, awesome stuff
 

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communicator, educator, awesome stuff
you've been doing over there. You've

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you've been doing over there. You've
 

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you've been doing over there. You've
made some noise, and my favorites are

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made some noise, and my favorites are
 

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made some noise, and my favorites are
obviously the cringe-worthy, the

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obviously the cringe-worthy, the
 

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obviously the cringe-worthy, the
low-hanging fruit, the absolute comedy

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low-hanging fruit, the absolute comedy
 

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low-hanging fruit, the absolute comedy
of ripping a lot of the people

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of ripping a lot of the people
 

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of ripping a lot of the people
a new, you know what, okay? Uh I love

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a new, you know what, okay? Uh I love
 

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a new, you know what, okay? Uh I love
it. I love it. So, we figured we'd allow

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it. I love it. So, we figured we'd allow
 

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it. I love it. So, we figured we'd allow
you the opportunity

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you the opportunity
 

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you the opportunity
to get engaged, uh to debate here on

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to get engaged, uh to debate here on
 

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to get engaged, uh to debate here on
MythVision, and have someone come over

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MythVision, and have someone come over
 

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MythVision, and have someone come over
here and prove creation,

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here and prove creation,
 

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here and prove creation,
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>> [clears throat]
 

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>> [clears throat]
>> argue creation with you, and evolution,

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>> argue creation with you, and evolution,
 

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>> argue creation with you, and evolution,
all of that kind of stuff.

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all of that kind of stuff.
 

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all of that kind of stuff.
Sure, yeah. I mean, I've been doing like

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Sure, yeah. I mean, I've been doing like
 

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Sure, yeah. I mean, I've been doing like
calling shows lately. Yeah, they're

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calling shows lately. Yeah, they're
 

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calling shows lately. Yeah, they're
pretty fun, so yeah, always a good time.

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pretty fun, so yeah, always a good time.
 

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pretty fun, so yeah, always a good time.
I pinned the uh the link, so we can get

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I pinned the uh the link, so we can get
 

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I pinned the uh the link, so we can get
some people who truly disagree and

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some people who truly disagree and
 

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some people who truly disagree and
believe in creation,

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believe in creation,
 

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believe in creation,
and uh I am going to have a few I have

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and uh I am going to have a few I have
 

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and uh I am going to have a few I have
to screen who's calling to make sure

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to screen who's calling to make sure
 

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to screen who's calling to make sure
they have a video. They've got to have

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they have a video. They've got to have
 

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they have a video. They've got to have
video because I'm not taking any risks

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video because I'm not taking any risks
 

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video because I'm not taking any risks
with random people trying to ruin

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with random people trying to ruin
 

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with random people trying to ruin
channels like yours and mine. You know,

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channels like yours and mine. You know,
 

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channels like yours and mine. You know,
they might be doing stuff they shouldn't

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they might be doing stuff they shouldn't
 

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they might be doing stuff they shouldn't
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be doing to try and harm the channel.
 

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be doing to try and harm the channel.
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So,
if you call in,

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if you call in,
 

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if you call in,
do me a favor and have a camera, and

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do me a favor and have a camera, and
 

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do me a favor and have a camera, and
also be prepared to defend creationism

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also be prepared to defend creationism
 

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also be prepared to defend creationism
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over against what the science points
 

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over against what the science points
toward. But, what do you think? Before

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toward. But, what do you think? Before
 

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toward. But, what do you think? Before
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we get into that, like, what do you
 

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we get into that, like, what do you
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think about the people
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that are constantly saying the
 

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that are constantly saying the
scientists do point toward that, and

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scientists do point toward that, and
 

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scientists do point toward that, and
they can go to and they constantly do

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they can go to and they constantly do
 

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they can go to and they constantly do
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this to the guys from
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uh the Creation Institute and all that
 

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uh the Creation Institute and all that
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kind of stuff, and they go, "There are
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scientists who disagree with these
 

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scientists who disagree with these
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scientists." How do you engage that,
 

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scientists." How do you engage that,
Dave? Yeah, it's pretty easy. I mean,

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Dave? Yeah, it's pretty easy. I mean,
 

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Dave? Yeah, it's pretty easy. I mean,
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the overwhelming majority of them are
 

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the overwhelming majority of them are
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not actual scientists. They're just
 

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not actual scientists. They're just
propaganda peddlers. I mean, Discovery

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propaganda peddlers. I mean, Discovery
 

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propaganda peddlers. I mean, Discovery
Institute, uh none of those are none of

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Institute, uh none of those are none of
 

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Institute, uh none of those are none of
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them are active publishing scientists.
 

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them are active publishing scientists.
Um they got a degree one degree or

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Um they got a degree one degree or
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another to to feign credibility, but
 

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another to to feign credibility, but
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then go ahead and deny science. Um
 

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then go ahead and deny science. Um
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The the the it's it's it's an it's an
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adorable argument of from authority
 

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adorable argument of from authority
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always. Just like, "This one scientist
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uh or or or or engineer says this thing
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about uh you know, biology or geology
 

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about uh you know, biology or geology
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that has absolutely nothing to do with
 

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that has absolutely nothing to do with
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their expertise. Uh therefore, it's it's
 

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their expertise. Uh therefore, it's it's
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really it's a battle with an
 

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really it's a battle with an
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academia, right? Conflicting viewpoints,
 

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academia, right? Conflicting viewpoints,
conflicting theories." No, it's science

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conflicting theories." No, it's science
 

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conflicting theories." No, it's science
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and pseudoscience. And no matter how
 

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and pseudoscience. And no matter how
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much you dress up creationism and call
 

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much you dress up creationism and call
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it intelligent design or some other you
 

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it intelligent design or some other you
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know, ridiculous uh nomenclature, it's
 

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know, ridiculous uh nomenclature, it's
all just propaganda. It's all just

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all just propaganda. It's all just
 

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all just propaganda. It's all just
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religious propaganda.
 

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religious propaganda.
It seems like that's the case. I mean,

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It seems like that's the case. I mean,
 

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It seems like that's the case. I mean,
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and everybody keeps running back to
 

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and everybody keeps running back to
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them. Have you noticed something before
 

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them. Have you noticed something before
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we get any callers, cuz I haven't had
 

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we get any callers, cuz I haven't had
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any people call in yet, and I'm hoping
 

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any people call in yet, and I'm hoping
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they do and they don't run away scared.
 

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they do and they don't run away scared.
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Have you noticed that like all of that
 

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Have you noticed that like all of that
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propaganda is getting it's hitting all
 

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propaganda is getting it's hitting all
the circuits. I've been attacking the

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the circuits. I've been attacking the
 

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the circuits. I've been attacking the
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apologist Christians uh who've been
 

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apologist Christians uh who've been
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hitting all of the like huge channels
 

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hitting all of the like huge channels
from Joe Rogan. Now, Shawn Ryan I

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from Joe Rogan. Now, Shawn Ryan I
 

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from Joe Rogan. Now, Shawn Ryan I
noticed had Wes Huff on, and then even

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noticed had Wes Huff on, and then even
 

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noticed had Wes Huff on, and then even
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the Diary of a CEO had Wes Huff on
 

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the Diary of a CEO had Wes Huff on
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recently. And I'm like,
 

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recently. And I'm like,
"Whoa, what's happening?" Yeah. I I

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"Whoa, what's happening?" Yeah. I I
 

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"Whoa, what's happening?" Yeah. I I
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don't know about Wes Huff I I think uh
 

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don't know about Wes Huff I I think uh
the little bit I know about him, I just

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the little bit I know about him, I just
 

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the little bit I know about him, I just
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know because he humiliated Billy Carson,
 

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know because he humiliated Billy Carson,
this this total grifter. Um but, I don't

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this this total grifter. Um but, I don't
 

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this this total grifter. Um but, I don't
know I the little that I know about him

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know I the little that I know about him
 

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know I the little that I know about him
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is that he's just really knowledgeable
 

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is that he's just really knowledgeable
about scripture, right? I don't think

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about scripture, right? I don't think
 

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about scripture, right? I don't think
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that he pushes
 

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that he pushes
Well, I mean well, he's not like an

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Well, I mean well, he's not like an
 

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Well, I mean well, he's not like an
intelligent design like Discovery

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intelligent design like Discovery
 

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intelligent design like Discovery
Institute guys. Well, I mean, I'm sure

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Institute guys. Well, I mean, I'm sure
 

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Institute guys. Well, I mean, I'm sure
he believe I'm sure he believes in it.

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he believe I'm sure he believes in it.
 

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he believe I'm sure he believes in it.
But, but I I I don't know that he makes

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But, but I I I don't know that he makes
 

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But, but I I I don't know that he makes
content like lying about science in

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content like lying about science in
 

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content like lying about science in
really sophisticated ways. Um maybe he

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really sophisticated ways. Um maybe he
 

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really sophisticated ways. Um maybe he
does. I I I haven't looked at it looked

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does. I I I haven't looked at it looked
 

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does. I I I haven't looked at it looked
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at him at all. But, my primary targets
 

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at him at all. But, my primary targets
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are those who enact really sophisticated
 

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are those who enact really sophisticated
uh deceptive propaganda campaigns

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uh deceptive propaganda campaigns
 

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uh deceptive propaganda campaigns
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against uh the scientific community. So,
 

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against uh the scientific community. So,
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Discovery Institute is number one with a
 

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Discovery Institute is number one with a
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bullet. And I mean,
 

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bullet. And I mean,
they're making the right they I think

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they're making the right they I think
 

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they're making the right they I think
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they actually just produced a video that
 

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they actually just produced a video that
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they're trying that they're trying to
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get into like select theaters right now.
 

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get into like select theaters right now.
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And it's just it's every time. It's the
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exact same talking points every time.
 

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exact same talking points every time.
Irreducible complexity, like all this

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Irreducible complexity, like all this
 

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Irreducible complexity, like all this
crap that has been so thoroughly

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crap that has been so thoroughly
 

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crap that has been so thoroughly
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debunked, but they just rely on like,
 

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debunked, but they just rely on like,
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you know, people wanting this stuff to
 

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you know, people wanting this stuff to
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be true and and and shielding themselves
 

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be true and and and shielding themselves
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and refusing to engage with any of the
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information or content that debunks
 

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information or content that debunks
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these talking points. So, they just
 

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these talking points. So, they just
dress it up in a new like fancier

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dress it up in a new like fancier
 

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dress it up in a new like fancier
aesthetic, and "Watch this documentary,

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aesthetic, and "Watch this documentary,
 

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aesthetic, and "Watch this documentary,
you know, is Genesis history?" Like,

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you know, is Genesis history?" Like,
 

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you know, is Genesis history?" Like,
"Ooh, look at all this new cutting-edge

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"Ooh, look at all this new cutting-edge
 

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"Ooh, look at all this new cutting-edge
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science." It's just the same playbook
 

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science." It's just the same playbook
over the past 20, 30 years uh with new a

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over the past 20, 30 years uh with new a
 

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over the past 20, 30 years uh with new a
new style, you know, a new narration,

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new style, you know, a new narration,
 

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new style, you know, a new narration,
you know. Um but, yeah, I have seen I I

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you know. Um but, yeah, I have seen I I
 

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you know. Um but, yeah, I have seen I I
saw I mean, Stephen Meyer went on Joe

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saw I mean, Stephen Meyer went on Joe
 

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saw I mean, Stephen Meyer went on Joe
Rogan. Um

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Rogan. Um
 

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Rogan. Um
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I'm trying to think who else they're
 

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I'm trying to think who else they're
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just they're really trying to hang on to
 

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just they're really trying to hang on to
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this. Um
 

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this. Um
But, uh yeah. The ideas that he's

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But, uh yeah. The ideas that he's
peddling, how old are they? I mean, they

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peddling, how old are they? I mean, they
 

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peddling, how old are they? I mean, they
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go back to like
 

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go back to like
early 1900s a lot of this stuff. It

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early 1900s a lot of this stuff. It
 

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early 1900s a lot of this stuff. It
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seems like
 

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seems like
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>> No, no, not not early 1900s. I mean, the
 

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>> No, no, not not early 1900s. I mean, the
the the modern the modern uh creationist

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the the modern the modern uh creationist
 

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the the modern the modern uh creationist
playbook or or the the most let's call

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playbook or or the the most let's call
 

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playbook or or the the most let's call
the most sophisticated version of it is

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the most sophisticated version of it is
 

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the most sophisticated version of it is
Discovery Institute's intelligent design

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Discovery Institute's intelligent design
 

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Discovery Institute's intelligent design
propaganda. Uh and that was formulated

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propaganda. Uh and that was formulated
 

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propaganda. Uh and that was formulated
kind of in the '90s and then in the

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kind of in the '90s and then in the
 

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kind of in the '90s and then in the
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'00s, the early 2000s, some of these uh
some of these guys um you had Demski and

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some of these guys um you had Demski and
 

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some of these guys um you had Demski and
Behe coming up with these um you know,

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Behe coming up with these um you know,
genetic entropy and

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genetic entropy and
 

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genetic entropy and
none of that stuff was possible in the

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none of that stuff was possible in the
 

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none of that stuff was possible in the
early 1900s. The field of genetics

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early 1900s. The field of genetics
 

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early 1900s. The field of genetics
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didn't exist. Um you know, it it it it
 

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didn't exist. Um you know, it it it it
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they try to what the most sophisticated
 

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they try to what the most sophisticated
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propaganda tries to do now is to appear
 

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propaganda tries to do now is to appear
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as academic and credible as possible
 

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as academic and credible as possible
because the the ranting preacher going,

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because the the ranting preacher going,
 

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because the the ranting preacher going,
"We didn't come from monkeys."

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"We didn't come from monkeys."
 

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"We didn't come from monkeys."
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even
fairly intelligent science-illiterate

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fairly intelligent science-illiterate
 

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fairly intelligent science-illiterate
people can kind of smell that and go

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people can kind of smell that and go
 

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people can kind of smell that and go
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like, "What's I'm not like I I I I was
 

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like, "What's I'm not like I I I I was
there in ninth grade biology. That's not

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there in ninth grade biology. That's not
 

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there in ninth grade biology. That's not
really what we learned, and I forgot a

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really what we learned, and I forgot a
 

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really what we learned, and I forgot a
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lot of it, but this doesn't seem
 

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lot of it, but this doesn't seem
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credible." So, they kind of do this
 

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credible." So, they kind of do this
thing of like, "Look the they'll lie

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thing of like, "Look the they'll lie
 

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thing of like, "Look the they'll lie
about primary literature, but in a way

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about primary literature, but in a way
 

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about primary literature, but in a way
that if you don't understand that field,

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that if you don't understand that field,
 

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that if you don't understand that field,
it's it's hard to detect, right? Because

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it's it's hard to detect, right? Because
 

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it's it's hard to detect, right? Because
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they themselves are somewhat
 

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they themselves are somewhat
knowledgeable about molecular biology or

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knowledgeable about molecular biology or
 

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knowledgeable about molecular biology or
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anthropology or geology or whatever
 

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anthropology or geology or whatever
field it is. So, they'll you know,

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field it is. So, they'll you know,
 

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field it is. So, they'll you know,
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they'll they'll uh
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doctor a data table to make it seem like
 

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doctor a data table to make it seem like
it says something it doesn't, use, you

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it says something it doesn't, use, you
 

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it says something it doesn't, use, you
know, legitimate scientific uh jargon to

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know, legitimate scientific uh jargon to
 

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know, legitimate scientific uh jargon to
to to uh to twist what literature is

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to to uh to twist what literature is
 

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to to uh to twist what literature is
saying, and um you know, prop up this

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saying, and um you know, prop up this
 

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saying, and um you know, prop up this
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guy has a PhD from so-and-so, so he must
 

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guy has a PhD from so-and-so, so he must
be right.

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be right.
 

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be right.
Never mind the 100,000 PhD scientists

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Never mind the 100,000 PhD scientists
 

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Never mind the 100,000 PhD scientists
that know that he's not right. You know,

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that know that he's not right. You know,
 

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that know that he's not right. You know,
it's uh it's the same pageantry. But,

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it's uh it's the same pageantry. But,
 

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it's uh it's the same pageantry. But,
but I would say but what I would say is

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but I would say but what I would say is
 

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but I would say but what I would say is
that in the past 20 years or so, it

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that in the past 20 years or so, it
 

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that in the past 20 years or so, it
really hasn't changed too much. They

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really hasn't changed too much. They
 

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really hasn't changed too much. They
tried to do Kitzmiller v. Dover, they

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tried to do Kitzmiller v. Dover, they
 

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tried to do Kitzmiller v. Dover, they
failed uh to get uh religion being

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failed uh to get uh religion being
 

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failed uh to get uh religion being
taught in public schools, and they've

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taught in public schools, and they've
 

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taught in public schools, and they've
kind of been floundering ever since.

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kind of been floundering ever since.
 

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kind of been floundering ever since.
But, they're using YouTube and other

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But, they're using YouTube and other
 

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But, they're using YouTube and other
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media to try and kind of like get
 

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media to try and kind of like get
another round of relevance going.

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another round of relevance going.
 

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another round of relevance going.
They're not doing too well because

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They're not doing too well because
 

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They're not doing too well because
there's so many people like me and

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there's so many people like me and
 

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there's so many people like me and
others that that kind of, you know, I

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others that that kind of, you know, I
 

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others that that kind of, you know, I
have my whole Discovery Institute

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have my whole Discovery Institute
 

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have my whole Discovery Institute
series, every single one of those videos

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series, every single one of those videos
 

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series, every single one of those videos
has a ton of views, and uh

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has a ton of views, and uh
 

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has a ton of views, and uh
yeah.

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yeah.
 

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yeah.
>> [clears throat and cough]

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>> [clears throat and cough]
 

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>> [clears throat and cough]
>> Hey, call call in uh in- inkjet. I Okay,

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>> Hey, call call in uh in- inkjet. I Okay,
 

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>> Hey, call call in uh in- inkjet. I Okay,
what does this say?

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what does this say?
 

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what does this say?
This is somebody on my Facebook that has

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This is somebody on my Facebook that has
 

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This is somebody on my Facebook that has
been anytime I post stuff about you, uh

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been anytime I post stuff about you, uh
 

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been anytime I post stuff about you, uh
Shawn Carroll, or any any atheistic type

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Shawn Carroll, or any any atheistic type
 

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Shawn Carroll, or any any atheistic type
of people,

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of people,
 

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of people,
um they they con- they always have

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um they they con- they always have
 

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um they they con- they always have
something to say, and I know in the

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something to say, and I know in the
 

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something to say, and I know in the
biblical field of what they're arguing

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biblical field of what they're arguing
 

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biblical field of what they're arguing
is not what consensus critical scholars

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is not what consensus critical scholars
 

455
00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,990
is not what consensus critical scholars
have to say about the topics. Okay.

456
00:08:01,990 --> 00:08:02,000
have to say about the topics. Okay.
 

457
00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,750
have to say about the topics. Okay.
>> know. They know better than I do, or

458
00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:03,760
>> know. They know better than I do, or
 

459
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,630
>> know. They know better than I do, or
that

460
00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:04,640
that
 

461
00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,430
that
cuz I'm going based off the critical

462
00:08:06,430 --> 00:08:06,440
cuz I'm going based off the critical
 

463
00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,270
cuz I'm going based off the critical
experts, right? So, I'm sitting here

464
00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:08,280
experts, right? So, I'm sitting here
 

465
00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,110
experts, right? So, I'm sitting here
looking at it going, "Huh." And it it

466
00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:10,120
looking at it going, "Huh." And it it
 

467
00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,430
looking at it going, "Huh." And it it
seems interesting. Please call in

468
00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:11,440
seems interesting. Please call in
 

469
00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,830
seems interesting. Please call in
because we had someone just call in, but

470
00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:12,840
because we had someone just call in, but
 

471
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,510
because we had someone just call in, but
they couldn't show their face. And

472
00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:14,520
they couldn't show their face. And
 

473
00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,430
they couldn't show their face. And
again, [snorts]

474
00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:15,440
again, [snorts]
 

475
00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,310
again, [snorts]
that's a problem. Well, in the meantime,

476
00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:17,320
that's a problem. Well, in the meantime,
 

477
00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,430
that's a problem. Well, in the meantime,
do you want to just talk about that

478
00:08:18,430 --> 00:08:18,440
do you want to just talk about that
 

479
00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,310
do you want to just talk about that
comment? If you want to bring the

480
00:08:19,310 --> 00:08:19,320
comment? If you want to bring the
 

481
00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,390
comment? If you want to bring the
comment back up, it's just like it's

482
00:08:21,390 --> 00:08:21,400
comment back up, it's just like it's
 

483
00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,750
comment back up, it's just like it's
just complete gibberish. It's

484
00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:22,760
just complete gibberish. It's
 

485
00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,870
just complete gibberish. It's
meaningless.

486
00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:23,880
meaningless.
 

487
00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,590
meaningless.
Idealized \{slash\} special science? The

488
00:08:27,590 --> 00:08:27,600
Idealized \{slash\} special science? The
 

489
00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,110
Idealized \{slash\} special science? The
[\h__\h] does that mean? Doesn't mean

490
00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:29,120
[\h__\h] does that mean? Doesn't mean
 

491
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,190
[\h__\h] does that mean? Doesn't mean
anything. Fundamental sciences, special

492
00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:32,200
anything. Fundamental sciences, special
 

493
00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,990
anything. Fundamental sciences, special
relative special relativity is physics.

494
00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:35,000
relative special relativity is physics.
 

495
00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,670
relative special relativity is physics.
Physics I mean, fundamental science also

496
00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:37,680
Physics I mean, fundamental science also
 

497
00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:40,310
Physics I mean, fundamental science also
doesn't mean anything. Um it it like

498
00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:40,320
doesn't mean anything. Um it it like
 

499
00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,550
doesn't mean anything. Um it it like
yes, physics is one of the, you know,

500
00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:42,560
yes, physics is one of the, you know,
 

501
00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:46,110
yes, physics is one of the, you know,
uh core core physical sciences. Um so is

502
00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:46,120
uh core core physical sciences. Um so is
 

503
00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,750
uh core core physical sciences. Um so is
biology, right? Physics, chemistry,

504
00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:47,760
biology, right? Physics, chemistry,
 

505
00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,950
biology, right? Physics, chemistry,
biology.

506
00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:48,960
biology.
 

507
00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,070
biology.
These are the natural sciences. Uh and

508
00:08:51,070 --> 00:08:51,080
These are the natural sciences. Uh and
 

509
00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,590
These are the natural sciences. Uh and
and uh evolution is the cornerstone of

510
00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:53,600
and uh evolution is the cornerstone of
 

511
00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,910
and uh evolution is the cornerstone of
biology. Nothing in the field of biology

512
00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:55,920
biology. Nothing in the field of biology
 

513
00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,670
biology. Nothing in the field of biology
makes sense outside of the context of

514
00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:57,680
makes sense outside of the context of
 

515
00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,270
makes sense outside of the context of
evolutionary principles. Um

516
00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:00,280
evolutionary principles. Um
 

517
00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,910
evolutionary principles. Um
So, it's

518
00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:01,920
So, it's
 

519
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,110
So, it's
grow up, atheists. I'm sorry. Like, you

520
00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:04,120
grow up, atheists. I'm sorry. Like, you
 

521
00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,670
grow up, atheists. I'm sorry. Like, you
can believe in God and accept evolution.

522
00:09:06,670 --> 00:09:06,680
can believe in God and accept evolution.
 

523
00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,470
can believe in God and accept evolution.
Evolution doesn't disprove the existence

524
00:09:09,470 --> 00:09:09,480
Evolution doesn't disprove the existence
 

525
00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,750
Evolution doesn't disprove the existence
of any conception of a deity. There are

526
00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:11,760
of any conception of a deity. There are
 

527
00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,190
of any conception of a deity. There are
so many millions of people who believe

528
00:09:14,190 --> 00:09:14,200
so many millions of people who believe
 

529
00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,030
so many millions of people who believe
in a God and accept science in its

530
00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:16,040
in a God and accept science in its
 

531
00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,030
in a God and accept science in its
totality, including evolution, and you

532
00:09:18,030 --> 00:09:18,040
totality, including evolution, and you
 

533
00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,750
totality, including evolution, and you
can be one of those people. But, if you

534
00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:19,760
can be one of those people. But, if you
 

535
00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,670
can be one of those people. But, if you
choose not to, that's on you. I'm sorry,

536
00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:21,680
choose not to, that's on you. I'm sorry,
 

537
00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:24,510
choose not to, that's on you. I'm sorry,
you are a science denier, and uh it's

538
00:09:24,510 --> 00:09:24,520
you are a science denier, and uh it's
 

539
00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,710
you are a science denier, and uh it's
that's all there is to it. You just

540
00:09:25,710 --> 00:09:25,720
that's all there is to it. You just
 

541
00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,510
that's all there is to it. You just
refuse to learn evolutionary biology in

542
00:09:28,510 --> 00:09:28,520
refuse to learn evolutionary biology in
 

543
00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,270
refuse to learn evolutionary biology in
any way, shape, or form. There's nothing

544
00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:30,280
any way, shape, or form. There's nothing
 

545
00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,750
any way, shape, or form. There's nothing
else to say here.

546
00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:31,760
else to say here.
 

547
00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,830
else to say here.
I mean, they could come up here and

548
00:09:33,830 --> 00:09:33,840
I mean, they could come up here and
 

549
00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,790
I mean, they could come up here and
prove that, you know,

550
00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:36,800
prove that, you know,
 

551
00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,470
prove that, you know,
Call in, define what the [\h__\h] is an

552
00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:38,480
Call in, define what the [\h__\h] is an
 

553
00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,190
Call in, define what the [\h__\h] is an
idealized science? What is a special

554
00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:41,200
idealized science? What is a special
 

555
00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,910
idealized science? What is a special
science? What is special science? What

556
00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:43,920
science? What is special science? What
 

557
00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,550
science? What is special science? What
are you talking about? By special

558
00:09:45,550 --> 00:09:45,560
are you talking about? By special
 

559
00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:47,470
are you talking about? By special
science, do you mean any science that

560
00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:47,480
science, do you mean any science that
 

561
00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,390
science, do you mean any science that
disproves my archaic, fragile worldview?

562
00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:50,400
disproves my archaic, fragile worldview?
 

563
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,070
disproves my archaic, fragile worldview?
Uh yeah, it's pretty special indeed

564
00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:52,080
Uh yeah, it's pretty special indeed
 

565
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,830
Uh yeah, it's pretty special indeed
then, I guess. I don't know.

566
00:09:53,830 --> 00:09:53,840
then, I guess. I don't know.
 

567
00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,790
then, I guess. I don't know.
Yeah.

568
00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:54,800
Yeah.
 

569
00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,190
Yeah.
When I've engaged this gentleman on

570
00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:57,200
When I've engaged this gentleman on
 

571
00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,030
When I've engaged this gentleman on
Facebook. They

572
00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:59,040
Facebook. They
 

573
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,270
Facebook. They
use so many verbose kind of gibberish

574
00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:03,280
use so many verbose kind of gibberish
 

575
00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,270
use so many verbose kind of gibberish
type language to describe and defend

576
00:10:05,270 --> 00:10:05,280
type language to describe and defend
 

577
00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,070
type language to describe and defend
arguments. And and look,

578
00:10:08,070 --> 00:10:08,080
arguments. And and look,
 

579
00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,710
arguments. And and look,
I'm sitting there half the time going,

580
00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:09,720
I'm sitting there half the time going,
 

581
00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,670
I'm sitting there half the time going,
"What? What are you saying?" Yeah, I

582
00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:11,680
"What? What are you saying?" Yeah, I
 

583
00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:12,870
"What? What are you saying?" Yeah, I
mean,

584
00:10:12,870 --> 00:10:12,880
mean,
 

585
00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,470
mean,
this is why I have the reputation that I

586
00:10:15,470 --> 00:10:15,480
this is why I have the reputation that I
 

587
00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,470
this is why I have the reputation that I
do and this is why it is

588
00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:18,480
do and this is why it is
 

589
00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,950
do and this is why it is
it's not that common that you see

590
00:10:19,950 --> 00:10:19,960
it's not that common that you see
 

591
00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,230
it's not that common that you see
someone with the hubris from that camp

592
00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:22,240
someone with the hubris from that camp
 

593
00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,550
someone with the hubris from that camp
trying to debate me because I am one of

594
00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:24,560
trying to debate me because I am one of
 

595
00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,070
trying to debate me because I am one of
the one of the people who does not

596
00:10:27,070 --> 00:10:27,080
the one of the people who does not
 

597
00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,870
the one of the people who does not
tolerate this kind of this kind of

598
00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:29,880
tolerate this kind of this kind of
 

599
00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,070
tolerate this kind of this kind of
pageantry. If the moment you start

600
00:10:32,070 --> 00:10:32,080
pageantry. If the moment you start
 

601
00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,550
pageantry. If the moment you start
bringing up these nebulous terms, I will

602
00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:34,560
bringing up these nebulous terms, I will
 

603
00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,950
bringing up these nebulous terms, I will
not allow the conversation to progress

604
00:10:36,950 --> 00:10:36,960
not allow the conversation to progress
 

605
00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,430
not allow the conversation to progress
one iota until you define that term in a

606
00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:39,440
one iota until you define that term in a
 

607
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,950
one iota until you define that term in a
way that makes sense or admit that you

608
00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:40,960
way that makes sense or admit that you
 

609
00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,630
way that makes sense or admit that you
pulled it out of your ass. Then we will

610
00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:42,640
pulled it out of your ass. Then we will
 

611
00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,630
pulled it out of your ass. Then we will
move to the next thing where you

612
00:10:43,630 --> 00:10:43,640
move to the next thing where you
 

613
00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,110
move to the next thing where you
humiliate yourself and I will pin you

614
00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:45,120
humiliate yourself and I will pin you
 

615
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,110
humiliate yourself and I will pin you
down until you admit that it it's just I

616
00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:48,120
down until you admit that it it's just I
 

617
00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,510
down until you admit that it it's just I
don't take I I'm just kind of done with

618
00:10:50,510 --> 00:10:50,520
don't take I I'm just kind of done with
 

619
00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,150
don't take I I'm just kind of done with
this behavior and I don't in in

620
00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:52,160
this behavior and I don't in in
 

621
00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,590
this behavior and I don't in in
one-on-one interaction, I just I don't

622
00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:54,600
one-on-one interaction, I just I don't
 

623
00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,310
one-on-one interaction, I just I don't
allow the dish galloping. I don't I'm

624
00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:56,320
allow the dish galloping. I don't I'm
 

625
00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,430
allow the dish galloping. I don't I'm
aggressive enough that they can't

626
00:10:58,430 --> 00:10:58,440
aggressive enough that they can't
 

627
00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,829
aggressive enough that they can't
perform that those kinds of things and

628
00:11:00,829 --> 00:11:00,839
perform that those kinds of things and
 

629
00:11:00,839 --> 00:11:03,590
perform that those kinds of things and
so it's just there are very few

630
00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:03,600
so it's just there are very few
 

631
00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,310
so it's just there are very few
that are going to even attempt to

632
00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:06,320
that are going to even attempt to
 

633
00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,270
that are going to even attempt to
engage me with it, you know.

634
00:11:08,270 --> 00:11:08,280
engage me with it, you know.
 

635
00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,190
engage me with it, you know.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting how, you

636
00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:10,200
Yeah, it's kind of interesting how, you
 

637
00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,910
Yeah, it's kind of interesting how, you
know, we've been live what now? 13

638
00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:11,920
know, we've been live what now? 13
 

639
00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,550
know, we've been live what now? 13
minutes. I know people have seen this.

640
00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:13,560
minutes. I know people have seen this.
 

641
00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:15,910
minutes. I know people have seen this.
We've had this out. Nobody's called in

642
00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:15,920
We've had this out. Nobody's called in
 

643
00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,870
We've had this out. Nobody's called in
yet. Why do you think that is, Dave?

644
00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:17,880
yet. Why do you think that is, Dave?
 

645
00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,030
yet. Why do you think that is, Dave?
What do you what do you think is going

646
00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:19,040
What do you what do you think is going
 

647
00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,030
What do you what do you think is going
on? Do you think they're Yeah. Getting

648
00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:21,040
on? Do you think they're Yeah. Getting
 

649
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,670
on? Do you think they're Yeah. Getting
the whiskey out, going,

650
00:11:22,670 --> 00:11:22,680
the whiskey out, going,
 

651
00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:23,710
the whiskey out, going,
"All right, I got to go."

652
00:11:23,710 --> 00:11:23,720
"All right, I got to go."
 

653
00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,950
"All right, I got to go."
>> liquid courage going, yeah. I mean, I'm

654
00:11:25,950 --> 00:11:25,960
>> liquid courage going, yeah. I mean, I'm
 

655
00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,190
>> liquid courage going, yeah. I mean, I'm
sure that there exist creationists who

656
00:11:28,190 --> 00:11:28,200
sure that there exist creationists who
 

657
00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,670
sure that there exist creationists who
would attempt to engage me with this but

658
00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:31,680
would attempt to engage me with this but
 

659
00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,030
would attempt to engage me with this but
and who just haven't seen it but

660
00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:33,040
and who just haven't seen it but
 

661
00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,230
and who just haven't seen it but
definitely like the ones that kind of

662
00:11:35,230 --> 00:11:35,240
definitely like the ones that kind of
 

663
00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,550
definitely like the ones that kind of
lurk on the internet and know your

664
00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:37,560
lurk on the internet and know your
 

665
00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:38,990
lurk on the internet and know your
channel and know that you've platformed

666
00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:39,000
channel and know that you've platformed
 

667
00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,110
channel and know that you've platformed
me many times that hate me the vast

668
00:11:42,110 --> 00:11:42,120
me many times that hate me the vast
 

669
00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,230
me many times that hate me the vast
majority of them know the moment they

670
00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:45,240
majority of them know the moment they
 

671
00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,470
majority of them know the moment they
try to open up their mouths about

672
00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:47,480
try to open up their mouths about
 

673
00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,630
try to open up their mouths about
genetics or phylogeny or any of these

674
00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:50,640
genetics or phylogeny or any of these
 

675
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,390
genetics or phylogeny or any of these
topics, they just they're not going to

676
00:11:52,390 --> 00:11:52,400
topics, they just they're not going to
 

677
00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,310
topics, they just they're not going to
get 1 inch cuz they don't know what any

678
00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:55,320
get 1 inch cuz they don't know what any
 

679
00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,430
get 1 inch cuz they don't know what any
of these words mean. They couldn't pass

680
00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:57,440
of these words mean. They couldn't pass
 

681
00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,190
of these words mean. They couldn't pass
a middle school biology quiz like they

682
00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:59,200
a middle school biology quiz like they
 

683
00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,790
a middle school biology quiz like they
just don't have it. Um and I do and I'm

684
00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:01,800
just don't have it. Um and I do and I'm
 

685
00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,310
just don't have it. Um and I do and I'm
not even an expert. Like I'm not an

686
00:12:03,310 --> 00:12:03,320
not even an expert. Like I'm not an
 

687
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,030
not even an expert. Like I'm not an
expert in any of those fields. I'm not

688
00:12:06,030 --> 00:12:06,040
expert in any of those fields. I'm not
 

689
00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,510
expert in any of those fields. I'm not
an expert in astrophysics. I'm not an

690
00:12:07,510 --> 00:12:07,520
an expert in astrophysics. I'm not an
 

691
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,390
an expert in astrophysics. I'm not an
expert in molecular biology. I'm not an

692
00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:09,400
expert in molecular biology. I'm not an
 

693
00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,070
expert in molecular biology. I'm not an
expert in geology.

694
00:12:11,070 --> 00:12:11,080
expert in geology.
 

695
00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,390
expert in geology.
But I have a I have a firm competence in

696
00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:14,400
But I have a I have a firm competence in
 

697
00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,110
But I have a I have a firm competence in
all of them because I'm a generalist

698
00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:16,120
all of them because I'm a generalist
 

699
00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,950
all of them because I'm a generalist
Right. way more than enough to dunk on a

700
00:12:18,950 --> 00:12:18,960
Right. way more than enough to dunk on a
 

701
00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,510
Right. way more than enough to dunk on a
troll on any of those topics. So uh

702
00:12:22,510 --> 00:12:22,520
troll on any of those topics. So uh
 

703
00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,870
troll on any of those topics. So uh
that's it, you know, you you don't need

704
00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:24,880
that's it, you know, you you don't need
 

705
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,950
that's it, you know, you you don't need
to be an expert to to disprove somebody

706
00:12:27,950 --> 00:12:27,960
to be an expert to to disprove somebody
 

707
00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,710
to be an expert to to disprove somebody
who is fumbling middle school level

708
00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:29,720
who is fumbling middle school level
 

709
00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,590
who is fumbling middle school level
science. You have to be an expert to

710
00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:31,600
science. You have to be an expert to
 

711
00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,470
science. You have to be an expert to
contribute to the advancement of a

712
00:12:33,470 --> 00:12:33,480
contribute to the advancement of a
 

713
00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,110
contribute to the advancement of a
scientific field. Right.

714
00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:35,120
scientific field. Right.
 

715
00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,550
scientific field. Right.
>> do that. I'm a science communicator. I'm

716
00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:36,560
>> do that. I'm a science communicator. I'm
 

717
00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,150
>> do that. I'm a science communicator. I'm
never going to advance any scientific

718
00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:38,160
never going to advance any scientific
 

719
00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,070
never going to advance any scientific
field ever. I'm going to take those

720
00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:40,080
field ever. I'm going to take those
 

721
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,270
field ever. I'm going to take those
advancements, learn about them and

722
00:12:42,270 --> 00:12:42,280
advancements, learn about them and
 

723
00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,270
advancements, learn about them and
convey their content to the general

724
00:12:44,270 --> 00:12:44,280
convey their content to the general
 

725
00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,390
convey their content to the general
public. That's my job, you know. Yeah.

726
00:12:46,390 --> 00:12:46,400
public. That's my job, you know. Yeah.
 

727
00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,150
public. That's my job, you know. Yeah.
Um and to also debunk trolls, you know.

728
00:12:49,150 --> 00:12:49,160
Um and to also debunk trolls, you know.
 

729
00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,990
Um and to also debunk trolls, you know.
Same here. I'll interview countless

730
00:12:50,990 --> 00:12:51,000
Same here. I'll interview countless
 

731
00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,150
Same here. I'll interview countless
experts in the area that I'm studying

732
00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:53,160
experts in the area that I'm studying
 

733
00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,310
experts in the area that I'm studying
and

734
00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:54,320
and
 

735
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,870
and
getting to hear the different it's like

736
00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:55,880
getting to hear the different it's like
 

737
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,710
getting to hear the different it's like
I allow the engagement cuz it's a softer

738
00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:57,720
I allow the engagement cuz it's a softer
 

739
00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,270
I allow the engagement cuz it's a softer
science. What I'm doing isn't

740
00:12:59,270 --> 00:12:59,280
science. What I'm doing isn't
 

741
00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,030
science. What I'm doing isn't
necessarily in the same arena of what

742
00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:01,040
necessarily in the same arena of what
 

743
00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,550
necessarily in the same arena of what
you're doing. History is so much softer

744
00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:03,560
you're doing. History is so much softer
 

745
00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:06,110
you're doing. History is so much softer
and you know, it's not as as firm and as

746
00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:06,120
and you know, it's not as as firm and as
 

747
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,964
and you know, it's not as as firm and as
certain and as the confidence is is

748
00:13:07,964 --> 00:13:07,974
certain and as the confidence is is
 

749
00:13:07,974 --> 00:13:09,950
certain and as the confidence is is
[laughter] is in as high. Yeah, more

750
00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:09,960
[laughter] is in as high. Yeah, more
 

751
00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,910
[laughter] is in as high. Yeah, more
interpretation and and

752
00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:11,920
interpretation and and
 

753
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,270
interpretation and and
somewhat empirical but not entirely

754
00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:14,280
somewhat empirical but not entirely
 

755
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,310
somewhat empirical but not entirely
empirical relies on a philosophical

756
00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:16,320
empirical relies on a philosophical
 

757
00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,829
empirical relies on a philosophical
interpretation. But yeah, I I I think

758
00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:17,839
interpretation. But yeah, I I I think
 

759
00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,950
interpretation. But yeah, I I I think
that like I just get so many just like,

760
00:13:19,950 --> 00:13:19,960
that like I just get so many just like,
 

761
00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,270
that like I just get so many just like,
"Oh, Dave, like he's just like parroting

762
00:13:22,270 --> 00:13:22,280
"Oh, Dave, like he's just like parroting
 

763
00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,829
"Oh, Dave, like he's just like parroting
other people's research." That's the

764
00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:23,839
other people's research." That's the
 

765
00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:26,990
other people's research." That's the
[\h__\h] point. I'm I'm taking science

766
00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:27,000
[\h__\h] point. I'm I'm taking science
 

767
00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,990
[\h__\h] point. I'm I'm taking science
from the scientific community and

768
00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:28,000
from the scientific community and
 

769
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,510
from the scientific community and
explaining it to people. That's my job.

770
00:13:29,510 --> 00:13:29,520
explaining it to people. That's my job.
 

771
00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,470
explaining it to people. That's my job.
Like people who whine about what I do,

772
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:32,480
Like people who whine about what I do,
 

773
00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,670
Like people who whine about what I do,
it's like going to a restaurant and and

774
00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:35,680
it's like going to a restaurant and and
 

775
00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,510
it's like going to a restaurant and and
telling the chef that he's a he's a hack

776
00:13:38,510 --> 00:13:38,520
telling the chef that he's a he's a hack
 

777
00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,910
telling the chef that he's a he's a hack
because he's not also a farmer.

778
00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:40,920
because he's not also a farmer.
 

779
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,430
because he's not also a farmer.
It's like it's a different [\h__\h] job.

780
00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:43,440
It's like it's a different [\h__\h] job.
 

781
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,670
It's like it's a different [\h__\h] job.
Somebody grows the food. That's their

782
00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:45,680
Somebody grows the food. That's their
 

783
00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,470
Somebody grows the food. That's their
job and then this person takes the food

784
00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:48,480
job and then this person takes the food
 

785
00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,790
job and then this person takes the food
and and cooks it and presents it puts it

786
00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:50,800
and and cooks it and presents it puts it
 

787
00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,070
and and cooks it and presents it puts it
on a plate for somebody to eat. Like

788
00:13:52,070 --> 00:13:52,080
on a plate for somebody to eat. Like
 

789
00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,790
on a plate for somebody to eat. Like
here you go, I made this nice meal for

790
00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:53,800
here you go, I made this nice meal for
 

791
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,190
here you go, I made this nice meal for
you. Right. It's a perfect analogy. I my

792
00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:56,200
you. Right. It's a perfect analogy. I my
 

793
00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,550
you. Right. It's a perfect analogy. I my
videos are like a little meal that I

794
00:13:57,550 --> 00:13:57,560
videos are like a little meal that I
 

795
00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,670
videos are like a little meal that I
made for you based on the food that

796
00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:59,680
made for you based on the food that
 

797
00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,270
made for you based on the food that
someone else grew.

798
00:14:01,270 --> 00:14:01,280
someone else grew.
 

799
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,329
someone else grew.
Um yeah.

800
00:14:02,329 --> 00:14:02,339
Um yeah.
 

801
00:14:02,339 --> 00:14:02,710
Um yeah.
>> [laughter]

802
00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:02,720
>> [laughter]
 

803
00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,190
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah, that's that's a good analogy and I

804
00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:05,200
>> Yeah, that's that's a good analogy and I
 

805
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,790
>> Yeah, that's that's a good analogy and I
I think again, you and I are just taking

806
00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:08,800
I think again, you and I are just taking
 

807
00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,790
I think again, you and I are just taking
what

808
00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:09,800
what
 

809
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,670
what
experts who've actually made the strong

810
00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:11,680
experts who've actually made the strong
 

811
00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,590
experts who've actually made the strong
cases, we've researched, we've studied a

812
00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:13,600
cases, we've researched, we've studied a
 

813
00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,230
cases, we've researched, we've studied a
lot of this stuff and we're trying to

814
00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:15,240
lot of this stuff and we're trying to
 

815
00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,510
lot of this stuff and we're trying to
pitch it in front of the world. Again,

816
00:14:17,510 --> 00:14:17,520
pitch it in front of the world. Again,
 

817
00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,470
pitch it in front of the world. Again,
back to my I guess you'd say what we're

818
00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:19,480
back to my I guess you'd say what we're
 

819
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,350
back to my I guess you'd say what we're
doing, it's way it seems a lot more

820
00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:22,360
doing, it's way it seems a lot more
 

821
00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,150
doing, it's way it seems a lot more
difficult to nail it down as anything

822
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:24,160
difficult to nail it down as anything
 

823
00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,550
difficult to nail it down as anything
solid because I can give three working

824
00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:26,560
solid because I can give three working
 

825
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,949
solid because I can give three working
hypotheses for one

826
00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:28,959
hypotheses for one
 

827
00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:31,230
hypotheses for one
you know, thing. You know, did Jesus

828
00:14:31,230 --> 00:14:31,240
you know, thing. You know, did Jesus
 

829
00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,510
you know, thing. You know, did Jesus
really do this thing in history?

830
00:14:33,510 --> 00:14:33,520
really do this thing in history?
 

831
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,470
really do this thing in history?
There's a literary explanation that can

832
00:14:35,470 --> 00:14:35,480
There's a literary explanation that can
 

833
00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,350
There's a literary explanation that can
make sense of it. Mhm. There's a there's

834
00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:38,360
make sense of it. Mhm. There's a there's
 

835
00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,150
make sense of it. Mhm. There's a there's
a real historical explanation that can

836
00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:40,160
a real historical explanation that can
 

837
00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,350
a real historical explanation that can
make sense of it. Which is it? People

838
00:14:42,350 --> 00:14:42,360
make sense of it. Which is it? People
 

839
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,110
make sense of it. Which is it? People
made up [\h__\h] in text and real people did

840
00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:45,120
made up [\h__\h] in text and real people did
 

841
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,390
made up [\h__\h] in text and real people did
dumb [\h__\h] that got themselves killed by

842
00:14:47,390 --> 00:14:47,400
dumb [\h__\h] that got themselves killed by
 

843
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,790
dumb [\h__\h] that got themselves killed by
cleansing the temple for example.

844
00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:49,800
cleansing the temple for example.
 

845
00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,270
cleansing the temple for example.
And you can just go down different paths

846
00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:51,280
And you can just go down different paths
 

847
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,949
And you can just go down different paths
and go, "Which is it?" Whereas

848
00:14:53,949 --> 00:14:53,959
and go, "Which is it?" Whereas
 

849
00:14:53,959 --> 00:14:55,949
and go, "Which is it?" Whereas
you know, they're all working hypotheses

850
00:14:55,949 --> 00:14:55,959
you know, they're all working hypotheses
 

851
00:14:55,959 --> 00:14:58,190
you know, they're all working hypotheses
but none of them are like confident as

852
00:14:58,190 --> 00:14:58,200
but none of them are like confident as
 

853
00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,350
but none of them are like confident as
evolution or as scientific Um

854
00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:01,360
evolution or as scientific Um
 

855
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,949
evolution or as scientific Um
you know, reconstructions of the past

856
00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:02,959
you know, reconstructions of the past
 

857
00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:04,990
you know, reconstructions of the past
can be. I think that's an important

858
00:15:04,990 --> 00:15:05,000
can be. I think that's an important
 

859
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,190
can be. I think that's an important
point. Yeah, absolutely. There are

860
00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:06,200
point. Yeah, absolutely. There are
 

861
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,670
point. Yeah, absolutely. There are
principles that are demonstrable in in

862
00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:08,680
principles that are demonstrable in in
 

863
00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,550
principles that are demonstrable in in
the present in real time um which

864
00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:11,560
the present in real time um which
 

865
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,790
the present in real time um which
however which also extend into the past,

866
00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:14,800
however which also extend into the past,
 

867
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,350
however which also extend into the past,
right? Um I I just did a reaction video

868
00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:17,360
right? Um I I just did a reaction video
 

869
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,670
right? Um I I just did a reaction video
which will come out tomorrow

870
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:19,680
which will come out tomorrow
 

871
00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,829
which will come out tomorrow
on the Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate

872
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:21,839
on the Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate
 

873
00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:23,230
on the Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate
because I actually never watched it. Did

874
00:15:23,230 --> 00:15:23,240
because I actually never watched it. Did
 

875
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,190
because I actually never watched it. Did
you ever watch that? I

876
00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:25,200
you ever watch that? I
 

877
00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,270
you ever watch that? I
I it got a little dry. I'm not going to

878
00:15:27,270 --> 00:15:27,280
I it got a little dry. I'm not going to
 

879
00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,949
I it got a little dry. I'm not going to
lie. It was kind of boring.

880
00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:28,959
lie. It was kind of boring.
 

881
00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:30,949
lie. It was kind of boring.
>> I had seen like little snippets and was

882
00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:30,959
>> I had seen like little snippets and was
 

883
00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:32,870
>> I had seen like little snippets and was
like, "Okay, this was like 2014." I was

884
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:32,880
like, "Okay, this was like 2014." I was
 

885
00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,310
like, "Okay, this was like 2014." I was
like in a touring rock band. I was like,

886
00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:34,320
like in a touring rock band. I was like,
 

887
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,670
like in a touring rock band. I was like,
"Okay, I don't I'm not I don't care

888
00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:35,680
"Okay, I don't I'm not I don't care
 

889
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,790
"Okay, I don't I'm not I don't care
about this right at the moment." But I I

890
00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:38,800
about this right at the moment." But I I
 

891
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,430
about this right at the moment." But I I
decided to do a reaction to it and Ken's

892
00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:41,440
decided to do a reaction to it and Ken's
 

893
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,590
decided to do a reaction to it and Ken's
whole thing was like, "You have

894
00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:43,600
whole thing was like, "You have
 

895
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,390
whole thing was like, "You have
observable science and you have

896
00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:45,400
observable science and you have
 

897
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,470
observable science and you have
historical science." Which is like his

898
00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:47,480
historical science." Which is like his
 

899
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,030
historical science." Which is like his
way of saying if you weren't there and

900
00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:49,040
way of saying if you weren't there and
 

901
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,910
way of saying if you weren't there and
you didn't see it, you can never know.

902
00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:50,920
you didn't see it, you can never know.
 

903
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,430
you didn't see it, you can never know.
Which is insane because like, you know,

904
00:15:54,430 --> 00:15:54,440
Which is insane because like, you know,
 

905
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,390
Which is insane because like, you know,
you like when you go to a crime scene,

906
00:15:57,390 --> 00:15:57,400
you like when you go to a crime scene,
 

907
00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,430
you like when you go to a crime scene,
you didn't see the crime but you gather

908
00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:59,440
you didn't see the crime but you gather
 

909
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,790
you didn't see the crime but you gather
clues to like figure out what happened,

910
00:16:00,790 --> 00:16:00,800
clues to like figure out what happened,
 

911
00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,630
clues to like figure out what happened,
right? So that's like science where

912
00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:04,640
right? So that's like science where
 

913
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,949
right? So that's like science where
we we you know, we gather clues and and

914
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:06,959
we we you know, we gather clues and and
 

915
00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:08,750
we we you know, we gather clues and and
make predictions. We we construct a

916
00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:08,760
make predictions. We we construct a
 

917
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,150
make predictions. We we construct a
model that makes predictions that can

918
00:16:11,150 --> 00:16:11,160
model that makes predictions that can
 

919
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,270
model that makes predictions that can
then elucidate what happened in the

920
00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:12,280
then elucidate what happened in the
 

921
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,350
then elucidate what happened in the
past. Like if you like biogeography

922
00:16:14,350 --> 00:16:14,360
past. Like if you like biogeography
 

923
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,270
past. Like if you like biogeography
where like we found

924
00:16:16,270 --> 00:16:16,280
where like we found
 

925
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,390
where like we found
these types of fossils in this region.

926
00:16:18,390 --> 00:16:18,400
these types of fossils in this region.
 

927
00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,230
these types of fossils in this region.
Therefore, if plate tectonics is true

928
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:20,240
Therefore, if plate tectonics is true
 

929
00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,150
Therefore, if plate tectonics is true
and and you know,

930
00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:22,160
and and you know,
 

931
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,230
and and you know,
deep biological time is true, we should

932
00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:24,240
deep biological time is true, we should
 

933
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,949
deep biological time is true, we should
find similar fossils in this part of

934
00:16:25,949 --> 00:16:25,959
find similar fossils in this part of
 

935
00:16:25,959 --> 00:16:27,949
find similar fossils in this part of
this other continent because when it was

936
00:16:27,949 --> 00:16:27,959
this other continent because when it was
 

937
00:16:27,959 --> 00:16:29,990
this other continent because when it was
Pangea, they were connected. And then we

938
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:30,000
Pangea, they were connected. And then we
 

939
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,671
Pangea, they were connected. And then we
go and we dig there and we find them.

940
00:16:31,671 --> 00:16:31,681
go and we dig there and we find them.
 

941
00:16:31,681 --> 00:16:31,949
go and we dig there and we find them.
>> [laughter]

942
00:16:31,949 --> 00:16:31,959
>> [laughter]
 

943
00:16:31,959 --> 00:16:34,550
>> [laughter]
>> That's that impresses me. I love that by

944
00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:34,560
>> That's that impresses me. I love that by
 

945
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,230
>> That's that impresses me. I love that by
the way. So that is that really ruins

946
00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:37,240
the way. So that is that really ruins
 

947
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,550
the way. So that is that really ruins
this whole narrative of like, "You

948
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:38,560
this whole narrative of like, "You
 

949
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,829
this whole narrative of like, "You
weren't there, you didn't see it so all

950
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:39,839
weren't there, you didn't see it so all
 

951
00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:42,829
weren't there, you didn't see it so all
you have is a story." No, we construct

952
00:16:42,829 --> 00:16:42,839
you have is a story." No, we construct
 

953
00:16:42,839 --> 00:16:45,510
you have is a story." No, we construct
models and make predictions. All of all

954
00:16:45,510 --> 00:16:45,520
models and make predictions. All of all
 

955
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,710
models and make predictions. All of all
of uh

956
00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:46,720
of uh
 

957
00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,870
of uh
all of paleontology, the entire field of

958
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:48,880
all of paleontology, the entire field of
 

959
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,110
all of paleontology, the entire field of
paleontology is Darwin saying, "Well, we

960
00:16:52,110 --> 00:16:52,120
paleontology is Darwin saying, "Well, we
 

961
00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,790
paleontology is Darwin saying, "Well, we
we should find all these transitional

962
00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:53,800
we should find all these transitional
 

963
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,270
we should find all these transitional
fossils and we don't have them at the

964
00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:55,280
fossils and we don't have them at the
 

965
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,430
fossils and we don't have them at the
moment so the the validity of my theory

966
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:57,440
moment so the the validity of my theory
 

967
00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,990
moment so the the validity of my theory
will hinge on on us finding them." And

968
00:16:59,990 --> 00:17:00,000
will hinge on on us finding them." And
 

969
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,590
will hinge on on us finding them." And
then creationists will go, "See, he even

970
00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:01,600
then creationists will go, "See, he even
 

971
00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,550
then creationists will go, "See, he even
said it and then we didn't find any."

972
00:17:03,550 --> 00:17:03,560
said it and then we didn't find any."
 

973
00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,110
said it and then we didn't find any."
Uh we found millions of them. Over the

974
00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:06,120
Uh we found millions of them. Over the
 

975
00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:09,150
Uh we found millions of them. Over the
past 150 years, we have filled in all of

976
00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:09,160
past 150 years, we have filled in all of
 

977
00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,230
past 150 years, we have filled in all of
these branches of the phylogenetic tree

978
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:12,240
these branches of the phylogenetic tree
 

979
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,230
these branches of the phylogenetic tree
that perfectly, immaculately conform to

980
00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:15,240
that perfectly, immaculately conform to
 

981
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,870
that perfectly, immaculately conform to
evolutionary expectations. Right, that

982
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:17,880
evolutionary expectations. Right, that
 

983
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,390
evolutionary expectations. Right, that
is something that creationists cannot

984
00:17:19,390 --> 00:17:19,400
is something that creationists cannot
 

985
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,750
is something that creationists cannot
explain so they basically just pretend

986
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:21,760
explain so they basically just pretend
 

987
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,470
explain so they basically just pretend
paleontology doesn't exist. Right, you

988
00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:23,480
paleontology doesn't exist. Right, you
 

989
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,949
paleontology doesn't exist. Right, you
have all these obscure artifacts, all

990
00:17:25,949 --> 00:17:25,959
have all these obscure artifacts, all
 

991
00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:28,710
have all these obscure artifacts, all
these obscure finds where

992
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:28,720
these obscure finds where
 

993
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,390
these obscure finds where
you go back, take canines and felines,

994
00:17:31,390 --> 00:17:31,400
you go back, take canines and felines,
 

995
00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,510
you go back, take canines and felines,
you go far back enough, you there is a

996
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:33,520
you go far back enough, you there is a
 

997
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,510
you go far back enough, you there is a
common ancestor that's kind of

998
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:35,520
common ancestor that's kind of
 

999
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,950
common ancestor that's kind of
intermediary in between what we think of

1000
00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:37,960
intermediary in between what we think of
 

1001
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,310
intermediary in between what we think of
as the morphology of canines and felines

1002
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:40,320
as the morphology of canines and felines
 

1003
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,230
as the morphology of canines and felines
and we have that. We have all these you

1004
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:42,240
and we have that. We have all these you
 

1005
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,430
and we have that. We have all these you
know, specimens up those two branches

1006
00:17:44,430 --> 00:17:44,440
know, specimens up those two branches
 

1007
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,550
know, specimens up those two branches
after canines and felines diverge from

1008
00:17:46,550 --> 00:17:46,560
after canines and felines diverge from
 

1009
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,070
after canines and felines diverge from
one another. And you can do that for any

1010
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:48,080
one another. And you can do that for any
 

1011
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,830
one another. And you can do that for any
two families or or or or classes or

1012
00:17:50,830 --> 00:17:50,840
two families or or or or classes or
 

1013
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,510
two families or or or or classes or
genera or whatever.

1014
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:52,520
genera or whatever.
 

1015
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,150
genera or whatever.
Um it's all there. They just and and you

1016
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:54,160
Um it's all there. They just and and you
 

1017
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,510
Um it's all there. They just and and you
can Google it and what's the most recent

1018
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:56,520
can Google it and what's the most recent
 

1019
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,430
can Google it and what's the most recent
common ancestor of blank and blank? You

1020
00:17:58,430 --> 00:17:58,440
common ancestor of blank and blank? You
 

1021
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,390
common ancestor of blank and blank? You
can do it for anything and you'll find

1022
00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:00,400
can do it for anything and you'll find
 

1023
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,910
can do it for anything and you'll find
it but they don't do that cuz they don't

1024
00:18:01,910 --> 00:18:01,920
it but they don't do that cuz they don't
 

1025
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,110
it but they don't do that cuz they don't
want to know, you know.

1026
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:03,120
want to know, you know.
 

1027
00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,310
want to know, you know.
Hey, Jason King in the back, are you a

1028
00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:05,320
Hey, Jason King in the back, are you a
 

1029
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,669
Hey, Jason King in the back, are you a
creationist? I need to know cuz I'm only

1030
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:07,679
creationist? I need to know cuz I'm only
 

1031
00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:10,630
creationist? I need to know cuz I'm only
bringing creationists on. Um by the way,

1032
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:10,640
bringing creationists on. Um by the way,
 

1033
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,590
bringing creationists on. Um by the way,
getting your opinion here Dave,

1034
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:13,600
getting your opinion here Dave,
 

1035
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,990
getting your opinion here Dave,
how did you think that I mean, we're

1036
00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:15,000
how did you think that I mean, we're
 

1037
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,190
how did you think that I mean, we're
we're going to watch the video but maybe

1038
00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:16,200
we're going to watch the video but maybe
 

1039
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,430
we're going to watch the video but maybe
we can get a tease. How did you think

1040
00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:18,440
we can get a tease. How did you think
 

1041
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,750
we can get a tease. How did you think
overall the debate went for

1042
00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:20,760
overall the debate went for
 

1043
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,910
overall the debate went for
Bill Nye because sometimes when I watch

1044
00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:22,920
Bill Nye because sometimes when I watch
 

1045
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,070
Bill Nye because sometimes when I watch
him, even when he was at the Ark

1046
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:24,080
him, even when he was at the Ark
 

1047
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,710
him, even when he was at the Ark
Encounter, I'm like

1048
00:18:25,710 --> 00:18:25,720
Encounter, I'm like
 

1049
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,070
Encounter, I'm like
he's being so nice and I'm like, "Fuck,

1050
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:28,080
he's being so nice and I'm like, "Fuck,
 

1051
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,430
he's being so nice and I'm like, "Fuck,
dude." Like like it it's like blind

1052
00:18:30,430 --> 00:18:30,440
dude." Like like it it's like blind
 

1053
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,430
dude." Like like it it's like blind
spots in the moment, you know, we all

1054
00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:32,440
spots in the moment, you know, we all
 

1055
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,950
spots in the moment, you know, we all
have them.

1056
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:33,960
have them.
 

1057
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,990
have them.
So I'll issue the caveat.

1058
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:36,000
So I'll issue the caveat.
 

1059
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,990
So I'll issue the caveat.
When I react, I kind of tend to go on

1060
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:38,000
When I react, I kind of tend to go on
 

1061
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,070
When I react, I kind of tend to go on
really long rants and the the the

1062
00:18:41,070 --> 00:18:41,080
really long rants and the the the
 

1063
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,310
really long rants and the the the
the the the debate itself is 2 and 1/2

1064
00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:43,320
the the the debate itself is 2 and 1/2
 

1065
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,990
the the the debate itself is 2 and 1/2
hours. So I only got through Ken's

1066
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:46,000
hours. So I only got through Ken's
 

1067
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,790
hours. So I only got through Ken's
5-minute opening, Bill's 5-minute

1068
00:18:47,790 --> 00:18:47,800
5-minute opening, Bill's 5-minute
 

1069
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,669
5-minute opening, Bill's 5-minute
opening and then Ken had a 30-minute I

1070
00:18:50,669 --> 00:18:50,679
opening and then Ken had a 30-minute I
 

1071
00:18:50,679 --> 00:18:52,310
opening and then Ken had a 30-minute I
didn't know the format but after the two

1072
00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:52,320
didn't know the format but after the two
 

1073
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,270
didn't know the format but after the two
opening statements, Ken did a 30-minute

1074
00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:55,280
opening statements, Ken did a 30-minute
 

1075
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,470
opening statements, Ken did a 30-minute
thing. Um and so my first reaction video

1076
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:58,480
thing. Um and so my first reaction video
 

1077
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,830
thing. Um and so my first reaction video
stopped there. So I really didn't listen

1078
00:19:00,830 --> 00:19:00,840
stopped there. So I really didn't listen
 

1079
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,270
stopped there. So I really didn't listen
any of Bill and at the end I was like,

1080
00:19:02,270 --> 00:19:02,280
any of Bill and at the end I was like,
 

1081
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,870
any of Bill and at the end I was like,
"It's almost 2 hours. I'm stopping here.

1082
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:04,880
"It's almost 2 hours. I'm stopping here.
 

1083
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,350
"It's almost 2 hours. I'm stopping here.
If you guys want me to continue the

1084
00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:06,360
If you guys want me to continue the
 

1085
00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,270
If you guys want me to continue the
reaction, I'm at like 50 minutes of a 2

1086
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:09,280
reaction, I'm at like 50 minutes of a 2
 

1087
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,310
reaction, I'm at like 50 minutes of a 2
and 1/2 minute debate. I can totally do

1088
00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:11,320
and 1/2 minute debate. I can totally do
 

1089
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,790
and 1/2 minute debate. I can totally do
a part two." And it won't be as

1090
00:19:13,790 --> 00:19:13,800
a part two." And it won't be as
 

1091
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,110
a part two." And it won't be as
interesting because obviously

1092
00:19:16,110 --> 00:19:16,120
interesting because obviously
 

1093
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:17,830
interesting because obviously
like I'm less interested in in

1094
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:17,840
like I'm less interested in in
 

1095
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,070
like I'm less interested in in
criticizing Bill like obviously there's

1096
00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:21,080
criticizing Bill like obviously there's
 

1097
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,110
criticizing Bill like obviously there's
going to be things where I'm like,

1098
00:19:22,110 --> 00:19:22,120
going to be things where I'm like,
 

1099
00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,630
going to be things where I'm like,
"Excellent, great point, Bill." And then

1100
00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:23,640
"Excellent, great point, Bill." And then
 

1101
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,950
"Excellent, great point, Bill." And then
other points where I'm like, "That

1102
00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:24,960
other points where I'm like, "That
 

1103
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,669
other points where I'm like, "That
should have been a little bit more like

1104
00:19:26,669 --> 00:19:26,679
should have been a little bit more like
 

1105
00:19:26,679 --> 00:19:28,110
should have been a little bit more like
this or what I would have said." And

1106
00:19:28,110 --> 00:19:28,120
this or what I would have said." And
 

1107
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:30,149
this or what I would have said." And
that's you know, I'm not so interested

1108
00:19:30,149 --> 00:19:30,159
that's you know, I'm not so interested
 

1109
00:19:30,159 --> 00:19:32,510
that's you know, I'm not so interested
in like criticizing a colleague.

1110
00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:32,520
in like criticizing a colleague.
 

1111
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,909
in like criticizing a colleague.
It's like the Dr. Mike ones where he did

1112
00:19:34,909 --> 00:19:34,919
It's like the Dr. Mike ones where he did
 

1113
00:19:34,919 --> 00:19:37,149
It's like the Dr. Mike ones where he did
the Jubilee and most of me is just

1114
00:19:37,149 --> 00:19:37,159
the Jubilee and most of me is just
 

1115
00:19:37,159 --> 00:19:39,630
the Jubilee and most of me is just
yelling at the idiots that he's debating

1116
00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:39,640
yelling at the idiots that he's debating
 

1117
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,190
yelling at the idiots that he's debating
and occasionally saying, "Oh, Mike, I

1118
00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:42,200
and occasionally saying, "Oh, Mike, I
 

1119
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,630
and occasionally saying, "Oh, Mike, I
wish you were a little harder on them on

1120
00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:43,640
wish you were a little harder on them on
 

1121
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,790
wish you were a little harder on them on
that thing right there."

1122
00:19:44,790 --> 00:19:44,800
that thing right there."
 

1123
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,310
that thing right there."
You know, I I don't necessarily need a

1124
00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:46,320
You know, I I don't necessarily need a
 

1125
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,190
You know, I I don't necessarily need a
whole hour of me reacting to Bill but I

1126
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:49,200
whole hour of me reacting to Bill but I
 

1127
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,590
whole hour of me reacting to Bill but I
can do it if people are interested.

1128
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:51,600
can do it if people are interested.
 

1129
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,150
can do it if people are interested.
My general sense of from the aftermath

1130
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:54,160
My general sense of from the aftermath
 

1131
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,430
My general sense of from the aftermath
is that he was a little bit too polite,

1132
00:19:56,430 --> 00:19:56,440
is that he was a little bit too polite,
 

1133
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,630
is that he was a little bit too polite,
but this is like I I feel like we're

1134
00:19:59,630 --> 00:19:59,640
but this is like I I feel like we're
 

1135
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,590
but this is like I I feel like we're
finally coming around to shifting our

1136
00:20:02,590 --> 00:20:02,600
finally coming around to shifting our
 

1137
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,230
finally coming around to shifting our
attitude on that. And I, you know, not

1138
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:04,240
attitude on that. And I, you know, not
 

1139
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,150
attitude on that. And I, you know, not
to toot my own horn, but I feel like I'm

1140
00:20:06,150 --> 00:20:06,160
to toot my own horn, but I feel like I'm
 

1141
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,030
to toot my own horn, but I feel like I'm
I'm a part of that shift of just like,

1142
00:20:08,030 --> 00:20:08,040
I'm a part of that shift of just like,
 

1143
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,990
I'm a part of that shift of just like,
"Look, this is how you treat these

1144
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:10,000
"Look, this is how you treat these
 

1145
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,270
"Look, this is how you treat these
frauds that are trying to poison society

1146
00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:12,280
frauds that are trying to poison society
 

1147
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,230
frauds that are trying to poison society
with science denial and erode the

1148
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:14,240
with science denial and erode the
 

1149
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,910
with science denial and erode the
separation of church and state and enact

1150
00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:15,920
separation of church and state and enact
 

1151
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,590
separation of church and state and enact
all of these egregious

1152
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:17,600
all of these egregious
 

1153
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,470
all of these egregious
changes to society that will violate

1154
00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:19,480
changes to society that will violate
 

1155
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,030
changes to society that will violate
human rights and and cause deaths and

1156
00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:21,040
human rights and and cause deaths and
 

1157
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,590
human rights and and cause deaths and
all these things. You don't treat them

1158
00:20:22,590 --> 00:20:22,600
all these things. You don't treat them
 

1159
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,270
all these things. You don't treat them
nicely. We don't punch them in the face,

1160
00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:24,280
nicely. We don't punch them in the face,
 

1161
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,310
nicely. We don't punch them in the face,
but you can you can be mean to them."

1162
00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:27,320
but you can you can be mean to them."
 

1163
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,430
but you can you can be mean to them."
You know what I mean? It's okay.

1164
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:29,440
You know what I mean? It's okay.
 

1165
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,870
You know what I mean? It's okay.
Um, and I think we're it's getting a

1166
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:30,880
Um, and I think we're it's getting a
 

1167
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,310
Um, and I think we're it's getting a
little bit of that from the scientific

1168
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:32,320
little bit of that from the scientific
 

1169
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,270
little bit of that from the scientific
community kind of coming around to that.

1170
00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:34,280
community kind of coming around to that.
 

1171
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,830
community kind of coming around to that.
Um,

1172
00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:34,840
Um,
 

1173
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,190
Um,
but yeah, I don't know.

1174
00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:36,200
but yeah, I don't know.
 

1175
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,644
but yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.

1176
00:20:36,644 --> 00:20:36,654
Yeah.
 

1177
00:20:36,654 --> 00:20:36,750
Yeah.
>> [clears throat]

1178
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:36,760
>> [clears throat]
 

1179
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,830
>> [clears throat]
>> Well, look, we got two people in the

1180
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:37,840
>> Well, look, we got two people in the
 

1181
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,790
>> Well, look, we got two people in the
back. Jason King, I've been writing in

1182
00:20:39,790 --> 00:20:39,800
back. Jason King, I've been writing in
 

1183
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,790
back. Jason King, I've been writing in
the private chat here asking if you're

1184
00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:41,800
the private chat here asking if you're
 

1185
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,190
the private chat here asking if you're
creationist. Say yes, I'm a I'm a

1186
00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:44,200
creationist. Say yes, I'm a I'm a
 

1187
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,750
creationist. Say yes, I'm a I'm a
creationist if you are. Okay, they are.

1188
00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:46,760
creationist if you are. Okay, they are.
 

1189
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,350
creationist if you are. Okay, they are.
And Austin, I'll need to see your video

1190
00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:48,360
And Austin, I'll need to see your video
 

1191
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,350
And Austin, I'll need to see your video
before I bring you up. So, I need to be

1192
00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:50,360
before I bring you up. So, I need to be
 

1193
00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,230
before I bring you up. So, I need to be
able to see and have you wave at me and

1194
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:52,240
able to see and have you wave at me and
 

1195
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,350
able to see and have you wave at me and
all that kind of stuff just to know

1196
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:53,360
all that kind of stuff just to know
 

1197
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:54,870
all that kind of stuff just to know
you're real dude. Okay, we're going to

1198
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:54,880
you're real dude. Okay, we're going to
 

1199
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,870
you're real dude. Okay, we're going to
start with Jason then we'll come to

1200
00:20:55,870 --> 00:20:55,880
start with Jason then we'll come to
 

1201
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,710
start with Jason then we'll come to
Austin. Here we go.

1202
00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:57,720
Austin. Here we go.
 

1203
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,950
Austin. Here we go.
Jason. Yeah, what's up, man?

1204
00:20:59,950 --> 00:20:59,960
Jason. Yeah, what's up, man?
 

1205
00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,750
Jason. Yeah, what's up, man?
I got to say I got to say all right,

1206
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:01,760
I got to say I got to say all right,
 

1207
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,070
I got to say I got to say all right,
first of all, I'm not Brett Keane.

1208
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:04,080
first of all, I'm not Brett Keane.
 

1209
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,270
first of all, I'm not Brett Keane.
If you get that joke, you've been on the

1210
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:05,280
If you get that joke, you've been on the
 

1211
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,870
If you get that joke, you've been on the
internet way too long. Not what?

1212
00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:07,880
internet way too long. Not what?
 

1213
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,310
internet way too long. Not what?
I missed it.

1214
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:08,320
I missed it.
 

1215
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,050
I missed it.
>> I'm not Brett Keane based on

1216
00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:10,060
>> I'm not Brett Keane based on
 

1217
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:10,630
>> I'm not Brett Keane based on
[clears throat] the look. Do you

1218
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:10,640
[clears throat] the look. Do you
 

1219
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,350
[clears throat] the look. Do you
remember Brett Keane? He was that guy

1220
00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:12,360
remember Brett Keane? He was that guy
 

1221
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,110
remember Brett Keane? He was that guy
that was a huge atheist and he became a

1222
00:21:14,110 --> 00:21:14,120
that was a huge atheist and he became a
 

1223
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,790
that was a huge atheist and he became a
huge Christian.

1224
00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:15,800
huge Christian.
 

1225
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,990
huge Christian.
And at the end he was kind of wearing

1226
00:21:16,990 --> 00:21:17,000
And at the end he was kind of wearing
 

1227
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,670
And at the end he was kind of wearing
one of these shaggy beards.

1228
00:21:18,670 --> 00:21:18,680
one of these shaggy beards.
 

1229
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,950
one of these shaggy beards.
Interesting. No, I don't know him. I I

1230
00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:19,960
Interesting. No, I don't know him. I I
 

1231
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,990
Interesting. No, I don't know him. I I
would go more ZZ Top. Oh, you would have

1232
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:22,000
would go more ZZ Top. Oh, you would have
 

1233
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,270
would go more ZZ Top. Oh, you would have
a lot of fun with this dude. You would

1234
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:23,280
a lot of fun with this dude. You would
 

1235
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,190
a lot of fun with this dude. You would
have a whole lot of fun with this guy.

1236
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:25,200
have a whole lot of fun with this guy.
 

1237
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,590
have a whole lot of fun with this guy.
Um,

1238
00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:26,600
Um,
 

1239
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,390
Um,
let me say this. I'm a fan of both of

1240
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:28,400
let me say this. I'm a fan of both of
 

1241
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,830
let me say this. I'm a fan of both of
you guys. I watch every video you Well,

1242
00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:30,840
you guys. I watch every video you Well,
 

1243
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,030
you guys. I watch every video you Well,
Dave, you can be long sometimes.

1244
00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:33,040
Dave, you can be long sometimes.
 

1245
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,630
Dave, you can be long sometimes.
But I love Miss Vision Derek, I love

1246
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:34,640
But I love Miss Vision Derek, I love
 

1247
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,750
But I love Miss Vision Derek, I love
you. I love what you do. I love your

1248
00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:36,760
you. I love what you do. I love your
 

1249
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,790
you. I love what you do. I love your
mission of getting all these scholars

1250
00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:38,800
mission of getting all these scholars
 

1251
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,550
mission of getting all these scholars
on, getting all these opinions. I think

1252
00:21:40,550 --> 00:21:40,560
on, getting all these opinions. I think
 

1253
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,470
on, getting all these opinions. I think
it's great.

1254
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:42,480
it's great.
 

1255
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,630
it's great.
Um, so the topic I guess is creationism.

1256
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:44,640
Um, so the topic I guess is creationism.
 

1257
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,590
Um, so the topic I guess is creationism.
Now, I guess that could probably be

1258
00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:46,600
Now, I guess that could probably be
 

1259
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,670
Now, I guess that could probably be
defined like in a series

1260
00:21:49,670 --> 00:21:49,680
defined like in a series
 

1261
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,310
defined like in a series
to where you have the most ridiculous,

1262
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:51,320
to where you have the most ridiculous,
 

1263
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,590
to where you have the most ridiculous,
which are the young Earth creationists.

1264
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:53,600
which are the young Earth creationists.
 

1265
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,110
which are the young Earth creationists.
I'm in no way in that type of silly.

1266
00:21:56,110 --> 00:21:56,120
I'm in no way in that type of silly.
 

1267
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,710
I'm in no way in that type of silly.
What I will say is that I think the

1268
00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:57,720
What I will say is that I think the
 

1269
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,230
What I will say is that I think the
universe as a whole

1270
00:22:00,230 --> 00:22:00,240
universe as a whole
 

1271
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,990
universe as a whole
requires an explanation

1272
00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:03,000
requires an explanation
 

1273
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,710
requires an explanation
because otherwise it just happens to

1274
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:04,720
because otherwise it just happens to
 

1275
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,230
because otherwise it just happens to
exist.

1276
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:06,240
exist.
 

1277
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,310
exist.
Whereas if you accept a divine cause or

1278
00:22:09,310 --> 00:22:09,320
Whereas if you accept a divine cause or
 

1279
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,390
Whereas if you accept a divine cause or
that the universe itself is divine,

1280
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:12,400
that the universe itself is divine,
 

1281
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,270
that the universe itself is divine,
then you kind of bootstrap the universe

1282
00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:14,280
then you kind of bootstrap the universe
 

1283
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,190
then you kind of bootstrap the universe
itself without all this necessity of

1284
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:17,200
itself without all this necessity of
 

1285
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,669
itself without all this necessity of
asking further questions that there

1286
00:22:18,669 --> 00:22:18,679
asking further questions that there
 

1287
00:22:18,679 --> 00:22:20,510
asking further questions that there
never will be an end to

1288
00:22:20,510 --> 00:22:20,520
never will be an end to
 

1289
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,710
never will be an end to
because of an infinite regress. Yeah.

1290
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:22,720
because of an infinite regress. Yeah.
 

1291
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,310
because of an infinite regress. Yeah.
>> So, in that sense I am a creationist,

1292
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:24,320
>> So, in that sense I am a creationist,
 

1293
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,510
>> So, in that sense I am a creationist,
although I don't believe in dumb

1294
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:25,520
although I don't believe in dumb
 

1295
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,910
although I don't believe in dumb
creation stories written by men 4,000

1296
00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:27,920
creation stories written by men 4,000
 

1297
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,669
creation stories written by men 4,000
years ago. Not that in a way.

1298
00:22:30,669 --> 00:22:30,679
years ago. Not that in a way.
 

1299
00:22:30,679 --> 00:22:32,070
years ago. Not that in a way.
But more in understanding that the

1300
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:32,080
But more in understanding that the
 

1301
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,950
But more in understanding that the
universe itself requires divinity in

1302
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:34,960
universe itself requires divinity in
 

1303
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,750
universe itself requires divinity in
order to exist.

1304
00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:36,760
order to exist.
 

1305
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,510
order to exist.
But to be to be clear, that's not

1306
00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:38,520
But to be to be clear, that's not
 

1307
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,830
But to be to be clear, that's not
creationism. Uh, you're you're a deist,

1308
00:22:40,830 --> 00:22:40,840
creationism. Uh, you're you're a deist,
 

1309
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,630
creationism. Uh, you're you're a deist,
right? You believe in a god whether it's

1310
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:42,640
right? You believe in a god whether it's
 

1311
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,669
right? You believe in a god whether it's
an whether it's an entity, a singular

1312
00:22:44,669 --> 00:22:44,679
an whether it's an entity, a singular
 

1313
00:22:44,679 --> 00:22:45,870
an whether it's an entity, a singular
entity, or you're just calling the

1314
00:22:45,870 --> 00:22:45,880
entity, or you're just calling the
 

1315
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,190
entity, or you're just calling the
universe god.

1316
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:47,200
universe god.
 

1317
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,750
universe god.
>> That's the I'm actually a non-dual

1318
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:49,760
>> That's the I'm actually a non-dual
 

1319
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,190
>> That's the I'm actually a non-dual
Tibetan Buddhist of the Nyingma school.

1320
00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:52,200
Tibetan Buddhist of the Nyingma school.
 

1321
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,750
Tibetan Buddhist of the Nyingma school.
Okay. Yeah.

1322
00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:52,760
Okay. Yeah.
 

1323
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,270
Okay. Yeah.
>> beside the point. These are all labels

1324
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:54,280
>> beside the point. These are all labels
 

1325
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,630
>> beside the point. These are all labels
is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

1326
00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:55,640
is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
 

1327
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,710
is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
that there there needs to be kind of

1328
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:57,720
that there there needs to be kind of
 

1329
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,750
that there there needs to be kind of
like a foundation

1330
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:59,760
like a foundation
 

1331
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,630
like a foundation
from upon which we can construct this

1332
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:02,640
from upon which we can construct this
 

1333
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,550
from upon which we can construct this
reality that we perceive, which is the

1334
00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:04,560
reality that we perceive, which is the
 

1335
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,310
reality that we perceive, which is the
phenomena of perception. Sure.

1336
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:06,320
phenomena of perception. Sure.
 

1337
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,870
phenomena of perception. Sure.
>> There has to be and even you would have

1338
00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:07,880
>> There has to be and even you would have
 

1339
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,630
>> There has to be and even you would have
something like this,

1340
00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:09,640
something like this,
 

1341
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,470
something like this,
which is like an axiom that you really

1342
00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:11,480
which is like an axiom that you really
 

1343
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,790
which is like an axiom that you really
can't question because it is fundamental

1344
00:23:13,790 --> 00:23:13,800
can't question because it is fundamental
 

1345
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,070
can't question because it is fundamental
to your entire belief system as a whole.

1346
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:16,080
to your entire belief system as a whole.
 

1347
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,750
to your entire belief system as a whole.
If you get all the way down to the

1348
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:17,760
If you get all the way down to the
 

1349
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,150
If you get all the way down to the
origin of the universe, how did the

1350
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:19,160
origin of the universe, how did the
 

1351
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,390
origin of the universe, how did the
universe start? Yes, we're we're

1352
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:20,400
universe start? Yes, we're we're
 

1353
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,790
universe start? Yes, we're we're
starting to get into very tricky

1354
00:23:21,790 --> 00:23:21,800
starting to get into very tricky
 

1355
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,590
starting to get into very tricky
philosophical territory. I I'm just

1356
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:23,600
philosophical territory. I I'm just
 

1357
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,750
philosophical territory. I I'm just
saying that creationism is the belief

1358
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:25,760
saying that creationism is the belief
 

1359
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,630
saying that creationism is the belief
that a deity created life

1360
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:28,640
that a deity created life
 

1361
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,310
that a deity created life
as it is. Well, life. Well, I mean, life

1362
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:31,320
as it is. Well, life. Well, I mean, life
 

1363
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,990
as it is. Well, life. Well, I mean, life
is a product.

1364
00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:33,000
is a product.
 

1365
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,270
is a product.
See, this is the thing. Like you start

1366
00:23:34,270 --> 00:23:34,280
See, this is the thing. Like you start
 

1367
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,710
See, this is the thing. Like you start
with a foundation, which is the most

1368
00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:35,720
with a foundation, which is the most
 

1369
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,950
with a foundation, which is the most
fundamental thing. You really can't

1370
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:36,960
fundamental thing. You really can't
 

1371
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,390
fundamental thing. You really can't
define it. This is what's known as

1372
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:38,400
define it. This is what's known as
 

1373
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,630
define it. This is what's known as
negative theology. It's kind of like you

1374
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:40,640
negative theology. It's kind of like you
 

1375
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,350
negative theology. It's kind of like you
you admit that there has to be this

1376
00:23:42,350 --> 00:23:42,360
you admit that there has to be this
 

1377
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:43,470
you admit that there has to be this
thing, but that's where you stop

1378
00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:43,480
thing, but that's where you stop
 

1379
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,790
thing, but that's where you stop
talking.

1380
00:23:44,790 --> 00:23:44,800
talking.
 

1381
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,310
talking.
That's where the more you talk, the less

1382
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:46,320
That's where the more you talk, the less
 

1383
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,230
That's where the more you talk, the less
you know, right?

1384
00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:47,240
you know, right?
 

1385
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,070
you know, right?
>> Sure. Yeah, I mean, in the sense that

1386
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:50,080
>> Sure. Yeah, I mean, in the sense that
 

1387
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,310
>> Sure. Yeah, I mean, in the sense that
Um, I I have no

1388
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:52,320
Um, I I have no
 

1389
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,470
Um, I I have no
like we're all trying to answer why does

1390
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:54,480
like we're all trying to answer why does
 

1391
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,710
like we're all trying to answer why does
anything exist as opposed to nothing

1392
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:56,720
anything exist as opposed to nothing
 

1393
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,270
anything exist as opposed to nothing
existing. And I'm kind of stopping at

1394
00:23:59,270 --> 00:23:59,280
existing. And I'm kind of stopping at
 

1395
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,510
existing. And I'm kind of stopping at
the universe. I'm saying the universe

1396
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:01,520
the universe. I'm saying the universe
 

1397
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,830
the universe. I'm saying the universe
exists without cause. I don't I can't

1398
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:03,840
exists without cause. I don't I can't
 

1399
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,710
exists without cause. I don't I can't
explain further than that. Whereas a

1400
00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:05,720
explain further than that. Whereas a
 

1401
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,669
explain further than that. Whereas a
deist will create another layer and say

1402
00:24:08,669 --> 00:24:08,679
deist will create another layer and say
 

1403
00:24:08,679 --> 00:24:10,950
deist will create another layer and say
there's a deity that exists that created

1404
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:10,960
there's a deity that exists that created
 

1405
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,710
there's a deity that exists that created
the universe and then stop there and not

1406
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:12,720
the universe and then stop there and not
 

1407
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,669
the universe and then stop there and not
explain the existence of the deity.

1408
00:24:14,669 --> 00:24:14,679
explain the existence of the deity.
 

1409
00:24:14,679 --> 00:24:16,070
explain the existence of the deity.
Either way, we're dealing with an

1410
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:16,080
Either way, we're dealing with an
 

1411
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,430
Either way, we're dealing with an
absurdity that is very difficult to wrap

1412
00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:18,440
absurdity that is very difficult to wrap
 

1413
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,750
absurdity that is very difficult to wrap
our heads around, which is why I do not

1414
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:20,760
our heads around, which is why I do not
 

1415
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,190
our heads around, which is why I do not
argue with deists because I have I have

1416
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:23,200
argue with deists because I have I have
 

1417
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,070
argue with deists because I have I have
nothing to argue with them about. I

1418
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:25,080
nothing to argue with them about. I
 

1419
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,950
nothing to argue with them about. I
argue with creationists who deny

1420
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:26,960
argue with creationists who deny
 

1421
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,110
argue with creationists who deny
science, right? Who deny evolutionary

1422
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:29,120
science, right? Who deny evolutionary
 

1423
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,630
science, right? Who deny evolutionary
biology and geology and things like

1424
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:30,640
biology and geology and things like
 

1425
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,390
biology and geology and things like
that. So, honestly, it sounds like you

1426
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:32,400
that. So, honestly, it sounds like you
 

1427
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,910
that. So, honestly, it sounds like you
and I don't really fundamentally

1428
00:24:33,910 --> 00:24:33,920
and I don't really fundamentally
 

1429
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,870
and I don't really fundamentally
disagree in any way in any in any

1430
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:36,880
disagree in any way in any in any
 

1431
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,350
disagree in any way in any in any
substantial way.

1432
00:24:38,350 --> 00:24:38,360
substantial way.
 

1433
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,790
substantial way.
>> Isn't this one of Kant's antinomies of

1434
00:24:40,790 --> 00:24:40,800
>> Isn't this one of Kant's antinomies of
 

1435
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,390
>> Isn't this one of Kant's antinomies of
pure reason?

1436
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:42,400
pure reason?
 

1437
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,630
pure reason?
Maybe. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a

1438
00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:43,640
Maybe. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a
 

1439
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,190
Maybe. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a
big philosophy buff.

1440
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:45,200
big philosophy buff.
 

1441
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,430
big philosophy buff.
Okay. You seem to be pretty smart at

1442
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:47,440
Okay. You seem to be pretty smart at
 

1443
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,110
Okay. You seem to be pretty smart at
everything you talk about, so. Thank

1444
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:49,120
everything you talk about, so. Thank
 

1445
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,710
everything you talk about, so. Thank
you. Well, I'm I'm not going to keep you

1446
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:50,720
you. Well, I'm I'm not going to keep you
 

1447
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,150
you. Well, I'm I'm not going to keep you
long. Like you said, we might not

1448
00:24:52,150 --> 00:24:52,160
long. Like you said, we might not
 

1449
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,070
long. Like you said, we might not
disagree as much. I just want to say I

1450
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:54,080
disagree as much. I just want to say I
 

1451
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,590
disagree as much. I just want to say I
love both your channels. I love both you

1452
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:55,600
love both your channels. I love both you
 

1453
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,750
love both your channels. I love both you
guys. Keep doing what you're doing.

1454
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:57,760
guys. Keep doing what you're doing.
 

1455
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,830
guys. Keep doing what you're doing.
Dave, keep busting those those fakers,

1456
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:59,840
Dave, keep busting those those fakers,
 

1457
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,590
Dave, keep busting those those fakers,
man. And Derek, keep having on all these

1458
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:01,600
man. And Derek, keep having on all these
 

1459
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,669
man. And Derek, keep having on all these
great scholars. Really appreciate both

1460
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:03,679
great scholars. Really appreciate both
 

1461
00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:04,950
great scholars. Really appreciate both
you guys, man. Thanks, man. Appreciate

1462
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:04,960
you guys, man. Thanks, man. Appreciate
 

1463
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,110
you guys, man. Thanks, man. Appreciate
it, both.

1464
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:05,120
it, both.
 

1465
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,030
it, both.
>> ZZ Top. I mean, Jason, have a great

1466
00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:08,040
>> ZZ Top. I mean, Jason, have a great
 

1467
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,510
>> ZZ Top. I mean, Jason, have a great
>> bro. Kick me out. I thought

1468
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:10,520
>> bro. Kick me out. I thought
 

1469
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,150
>> bro. Kick me out. I thought
All right. All right. All right. We're

1470
00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:12,160
All right. All right. All right. We're
 

1471
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,110
All right. All right. All right. We're
going to go to Austin next. Austin, let

1472
00:25:14,110 --> 00:25:14,120
going to go to Austin next. Austin, let
 

1473
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,270
going to go to Austin next. Austin, let
me make sure I could see you again. I

1474
00:25:16,270 --> 00:25:16,280
me make sure I could see you again. I
 

1475
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,750
me make sure I could see you again. I
just want to make sure I got this right

1476
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:17,760
just want to make sure I got this right
 

1477
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,430
just want to make sure I got this right
here. Jason, I'm going to I'm going to

1478
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:19,440
here. Jason, I'm going to I'm going to
 

1479
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,750
here. Jason, I'm going to I'm going to
drop you from the backside. Um,

1480
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:22,760
drop you from the backside. Um,
 

1481
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,950
drop you from the backside. Um,
and there we go. All right. Austin,

1482
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:24,960
and there we go. All right. Austin,
 

1483
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,430
and there we go. All right. Austin,
where you at, man? I need to see you

1484
00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:26,440
where you at, man? I need to see you
 

1485
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,070
where you at, man? I need to see you
from the backside here.

1486
00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:29,080
from the backside here.
 

1487
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,230
from the backside here.
We uh we're going to get our next

1488
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:30,240
We uh we're going to get our next
 

1489
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,390
We uh we're going to get our next
caller. I'm hoping we can get some

1490
00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:31,400
caller. I'm hoping we can get some
 

1491
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,990
caller. I'm hoping we can get some
creationist

1492
00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:33,000
creationist
 

1493
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,190
creationist
to call in. Yeah. You you don't have a

1494
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:35,200
to call in. Yeah. You you don't have a
 

1495
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,510
to call in. Yeah. You you don't have a
fundamental problem. Like you're like,

1496
00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:36,520
fundamental problem. Like you're like,
 

1497
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,030
fundamental problem. Like you're like,
"Okay, you think something's there. I'm

1498
00:25:38,030 --> 00:25:38,040
"Okay, you think something's there. I'm
 

1499
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,230
"Okay, you think something's there. I'm
not necessarily convinced. Okay, maybe I

1500
00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:41,240
not necessarily convinced. Okay, maybe I
 

1501
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,630
not necessarily convinced. Okay, maybe I
just don't believe in god. I just I just

1502
00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:43,640
just don't believe in god. I just I just
 

1503
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,669
just don't believe in god. I just I just
Louis Louis CK has a great line where

1504
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:45,679
Louis Louis CK has a great line where
 

1505
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:47,590
Louis Louis CK has a great line where
he's just like, "I don't I just I reckon

1506
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:47,600
he's just like, "I don't I just I reckon
 

1507
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,710
he's just like, "I don't I just I reckon
there ain't." You know what I mean? Like

1508
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:48,720
there ain't." You know what I mean? Like
 

1509
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,669
there ain't." You know what I mean? Like
I just I don't but it's not like a it's

1510
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:51,679
I just I don't but it's not like a it's
 

1511
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:53,510
I just I don't but it's not like a it's
not a like

1512
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:53,520
not a like
 

1513
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,910
not a like
I'm not evaluating

1514
00:25:55,910 --> 00:25:55,920
I'm not evaluating
 

1515
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,910
I'm not evaluating
evidence. You know what I mean? Like

1516
00:25:56,910 --> 00:25:56,920
evidence. You know what I mean? Like
 

1517
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,110
evidence. You know what I mean? Like
there's very firm scientific empirical

1518
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:59,120
there's very firm scientific empirical
 

1519
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,470
there's very firm scientific empirical
evidence for everything in every body of

1520
00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:01,480
evidence for everything in every body of
 

1521
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,350
evidence for everything in every body of
science. Right? So, in order to to

1522
00:26:04,350 --> 00:26:04,360
science. Right? So, in order to to
 

1523
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,310
science. Right? So, in order to to
reject that, you're just you're you're

1524
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:06,320
reject that, you're just you're you're
 

1525
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,870
reject that, you're just you're you're
just blindly rejecting all of this

1526
00:26:07,870 --> 00:26:07,880
just blindly rejecting all of this
 

1527
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,910
just blindly rejecting all of this
evidence. Whereas I cannot disprove any

1528
00:26:11,910 --> 00:26:11,920
evidence. Whereas I cannot disprove any
 

1529
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,790
evidence. Whereas I cannot disprove any
conceptualization of a deity. I could

1530
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:13,800
conceptualization of a deity. I could
 

1531
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,630
conceptualization of a deity. I could
never

1532
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:14,640
never
 

1533
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,150
never
>> do that. Um, so it it's not offensive to

1534
00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:17,160
>> do that. Um, so it it's not offensive to
 

1535
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,030
>> do that. Um, so it it's not offensive to
me

1536
00:26:18,030 --> 00:26:18,040
me
 

1537
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,270
me
if people believe in god. It's offensive

1538
00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:20,280
if people believe in god. It's offensive
 

1539
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,310
if people believe in god. It's offensive
to me

1540
00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:21,320
to me
 

1541
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,430
to me
if they believe in a very particular god

1542
00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:24,440
if they believe in a very particular god
 

1543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,590
if they believe in a very particular god
that created everything super special

1544
00:26:26,590 --> 00:26:26,600
that created everything super special
 

1545
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,550
that created everything super special
6,000 years ago and he hates gay people

1546
00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:28,560
6,000 years ago and he hates gay people
 

1547
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,470
6,000 years ago and he hates gay people
and therefore we should have this

1548
00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:29,480
and therefore we should have this
 

1549
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,350
and therefore we should have this
legislation and limit all these civil

1550
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:31,360
legislation and limit all these civil
 

1551
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,950
legislation and limit all these civil
rights. So, that's offensive. Just I

1552
00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:33,960
rights. So, that's offensive. Just I
 

1553
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,470
rights. So, that's offensive. Just I
believe in a deity of some sort. That is

1554
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:36,480
believe in a deity of some sort. That is
 

1555
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,950
believe in a deity of some sort. That is
not offensive to me whatsoever. And it's

1556
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:38,960
not offensive to me whatsoever. And it's
 

1557
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,910
not offensive to me whatsoever. And it's
not even that interesting a conversation

1558
00:26:40,910 --> 00:26:40,920
not even that interesting a conversation
 

1559
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,470
not even that interesting a conversation
to be honest. Like you can get really

1560
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:42,480
to be honest. Like you can get really
 

1561
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,390
to be honest. Like you can get really
stoned and like have a like a heady

1562
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:44,400
stoned and like have a like a heady
 

1563
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,350
stoned and like have a like a heady
thing or and and and talk about it, but

1564
00:26:46,350 --> 00:26:46,360
thing or and and and talk about it, but
 

1565
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,630
thing or and and and talk about it, but
it's it's not it's not academic dis I

1566
00:26:49,630 --> 00:26:49,640
it's it's not it's not academic dis I
 

1567
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,110
it's it's not it's not academic dis I
mean, it is academic discourse, but it

1568
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:51,120
mean, it is academic discourse, but it
 

1569
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,070
mean, it is academic discourse, but it
it's philosophy. It's not you know, I'm

1570
00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:53,080
it's philosophy. It's not you know, I'm
 

1571
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,430
it's philosophy. It's not you know, I'm
a science communicator. I try to focus

1572
00:26:54,430 --> 00:26:54,440
a science communicator. I try to focus
 

1573
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,669
a science communicator. I try to focus
on science, so.

1574
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:55,679
on science, so.
 

1575
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:57,230
on science, so.
Yeah, no, no, no, I get it. I'm not

1576
00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:57,240
Yeah, no, no, no, I get it. I'm not
 

1577
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,190
Yeah, no, no, no, I get it. I'm not
against that either. Again, it's I think

1578
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:59,200
against that either. Again, it's I think
 

1579
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,990
against that either. Again, it's I think
the reason that I've even had an axe to

1580
00:27:00,990 --> 00:27:01,000
the reason that I've even had an axe to
 

1581
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,710
the reason that I've even had an axe to
grind period was my own experience.

1582
00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:03,720
grind period was my own experience.
 

1583
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,030
grind period was my own experience.
Yeah.

1584
00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:04,040
Yeah.
 

1585
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,510
Yeah.
>> And and the harm that it caused me in

1586
00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:06,520
>> And and the harm that it caused me in
 

1587
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,150
>> And and the harm that it caused me in
many ways to not realizing and and the

1588
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:09,160
many ways to not realizing and and the
 

1589
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,470
many ways to not realizing and and the
funny solution is being a drug addict.

1590
00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:11,480
funny solution is being a drug addict.
 

1591
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,990
funny solution is being a drug addict.
I'm waiting for Austin to show his video

1592
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:13,000
I'm waiting for Austin to show his video
 

1593
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,110
I'm waiting for Austin to show his video
and then I'll bring him on here. Like I

1594
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:14,120
and then I'll bring him on here. Like I
 

1595
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,830
and then I'll bring him on here. Like I
need to be able to see him and stuff.

1596
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:15,840
need to be able to see him and stuff.
 

1597
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,750
need to be able to see him and stuff.
Um, is that as a drug addict, I was told

1598
00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:18,760
Um, is that as a drug addict, I was told
 

1599
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,990
Um, is that as a drug addict, I was told
I had um, I had an issue with demons.

1600
00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:23,000
I had um, I had an issue with demons.
 

1601
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,350
I had um, I had an issue with demons.
Yeah, spiritual problems. And come to

1602
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:25,360
Yeah, spiritual problems. And come to
 

1603
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:27,550
Yeah, spiritual problems. And come to
find out, I just had medical a medical

1604
00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:27,560
find out, I just had medical a medical
 

1605
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,510
find out, I just had medical a medical
issue and also trauma, right? So, there

1606
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:29,520
issue and also trauma, right? So, there
 

1607
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,390
issue and also trauma, right? So, there
was other things that could be solved

1608
00:27:31,390 --> 00:27:31,400
was other things that could be solved
 

1609
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,830
was other things that could be solved
through means by which science helped us

1610
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:33,840
through means by which science helped us
 

1611
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,150
through means by which science helped us
achieve in recognizing even in the

1612
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:36,160
achieve in recognizing even in the
 

1613
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,110
achieve in recognizing even in the
science of going down paths of

1614
00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:38,120
science of going down paths of
 

1615
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,750
science of going down paths of
psychology and things like that. It

1616
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:39,760
psychology and things like that. It
 

1617
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,910
psychology and things like that. It
wasn't magical prayer and things that

1618
00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:41,920
wasn't magical prayer and things that
 

1619
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,710
wasn't magical prayer and things that
made me clean. And that's why it's

1620
00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:43,720
made me clean. And that's why it's
 

1621
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,110
made me clean. And that's why it's
interesting when people go, "Hold on,

1622
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:45,120
interesting when people go, "Hold on,
 

1623
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,710
interesting when people go, "Hold on,
you got you became a skeptic

1624
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:46,720
you got you became a skeptic
 

1625
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,310
you got you became a skeptic
non-believer

1626
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:48,320
non-believer
 

1627
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,790
non-believer
when you got clean?" Usually Jesus Jesus

1628
00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:51,800
when you got clean?" Usually Jesus Jesus
 

1629
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,430
when you got clean?" Usually Jesus Jesus
saves everybody who's on drugs. What do

1630
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:53,440
saves everybody who's on drugs. What do
 

1631
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,390
saves everybody who's on drugs. What do
you mean? No, the opposite happened to

1632
00:27:55,390 --> 00:27:55,400
you mean? No, the opposite happened to
 

1633
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,070
you mean? No, the opposite happened to
me. You were empowered by the reaction

1634
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:58,080
me. You were empowered by the reaction
 

1635
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,470
me. You were empowered by the reaction
against what you were being fed. Yeah.

1636
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:00,480
against what you were being fed. Yeah.
 

1637
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,430
against what you were being fed. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I was empowered by that and

1638
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:02,440
Yeah. Yeah, I was empowered by that and
 

1639
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,350
Yeah. Yeah, I was empowered by that and
the knowledge helped me I think realize

1640
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:04,360
the knowledge helped me I think realize
 

1641
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,590
the knowledge helped me I think realize
I, you know, wasn't broken. It wasn't

1642
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:07,600
I, you know, wasn't broken. It wasn't
 

1643
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,110
I, you know, wasn't broken. It wasn't
I'm a deficient born

1644
00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:10,120
I'm a deficient born
 

1645
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,310
I'm a deficient born
sinner evil. Yeah.

1646
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:12,320
sinner evil. Yeah.
 

1647
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,350
sinner evil. Yeah.
>> have agency and the power to you know,

1648
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:15,360
>> have agency and the power to you know,
 

1649
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,669
>> have agency and the power to you know,
overcome challenges on your own. Yeah.

1650
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:17,679
overcome challenges on your own. Yeah.
 

1651
00:28:17,679 --> 00:28:19,030
overcome challenges on your own. Yeah.
Absolutely. Well, I look, I'm going to

1652
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:19,040
Absolutely. Well, I look, I'm going to
 

1653
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,150
Absolutely. Well, I look, I'm going to
bring Austin on. I I I thought Austin

1654
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:21,160
bring Austin on. I I I thought Austin
 

1655
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,909
bring Austin on. I I I thought Austin
would appear with visuals here. Um, oh,

1656
00:28:24,909 --> 00:28:24,919
would appear with visuals here. Um, oh,
 

1657
00:28:24,919 --> 00:28:26,470
would appear with visuals here. Um, oh,
he backed out.

1658
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:26,480
he backed out.
 

1659
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,909
he backed out.
Okay. Well, he showed his face and then

1660
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:28,919
Okay. Well, he showed his face and then
 

1661
00:28:28,919 --> 00:28:30,030
Okay. Well, he showed his face and then
would like

1662
00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:30,040
would like
 

1663
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,110
would like
lean down to the ceiling. I'm like I'm

1664
00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:32,120
lean down to the ceiling. I'm like I'm
 

1665
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,430
lean down to the ceiling. I'm like I'm
trying to

1666
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:33,440
trying to
 

1667
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,790
trying to
see people if we can help it and like

1668
00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:35,800
see people if we can help it and like
 

1669
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,669
see people if we can help it and like
have a conversation.

1670
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:37,679
have a conversation.
 

1671
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:39,190
have a conversation.
Um,

1672
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:39,200
Um,
 

1673
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,790
Um,
what do you do with that? Anyway, yeah.

1674
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:40,800
what do you do with that? Anyway, yeah.
 

1675
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,870
what do you do with that? Anyway, yeah.
So, so so science, I think that's what

1676
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:42,880
So, so so science, I think that's what
 

1677
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,470
So, so so science, I think that's what
led me down more of my skeptical

1678
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:44,480
led me down more of my skeptical
 

1679
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,070
led me down more of my skeptical
skeptical route because I was this kind

1680
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:47,080
skeptical route because I was this kind
 

1681
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,950
skeptical route because I was this kind
of pantheistic I didn't know what it

1682
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:49,960
of pantheistic I didn't know what it
 

1683
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,230
of pantheistic I didn't know what it
was, Dave. I just realized that my

1684
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:52,240
was, Dave. I just realized that my
 

1685
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,470
was, Dave. I just realized that my
religion, the one religion, wasn't it.

1686
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:54,480
religion, the one religion, wasn't it.
 

1687
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,510
religion, the one religion, wasn't it.
And I found all sorts of comparative

1688
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:56,520
And I found all sorts of comparative
 

1689
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,550
And I found all sorts of comparative
mythology and all these things. I

1690
00:28:58,550 --> 00:28:58,560
mythology and all these things. I
 

1691
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,270
mythology and all these things. I
expanded my concept of god and then

1692
00:29:01,270 --> 00:29:01,280
expanded my concept of god and then
 

1693
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,790
expanded my concept of god and then
eventually I started questioning, is

1694
00:29:03,790 --> 00:29:03,800
eventually I started questioning, is
 

1695
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,830
eventually I started questioning, is
there a god? Once I saw evolution,

1696
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:05,840
there a god? Once I saw evolution,
 

1697
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,510
there a god? Once I saw evolution,
evolution got me really going, "You mean

1698
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:08,520
evolution got me really going, "You mean
 

1699
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,310
evolution got me really going, "You mean
to tell me something made this? And that

1700
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:10,320
to tell me something made this? And that
 

1701
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,550
to tell me something made this? And that
long it was eating itself? Life itself

1702
00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:12,560
long it was eating itself? Life itself
 

1703
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,590
long it was eating itself? Life itself
cannibalizes in order to exist?" That

1704
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:15,600
cannibalizes in order to exist?" That
 

1705
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,669
cannibalizes in order to exist?" That
kind of messed me up. What you're what

1706
00:29:18,669 --> 00:29:18,679
kind of messed me up. What you're what
 

1707
00:29:18,679 --> 00:29:20,430
kind of messed me up. What you're what
you experienced is very very common.

1708
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:20,440
you experienced is very very common.
 

1709
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,430
you experienced is very very common.
There are so many people that grow up in

1710
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:22,440
There are so many people that grow up in
 

1711
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,030
There are so many people that grow up in
in a fundamentalist setting and then as

1712
00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:25,040
in a fundamentalist setting and then as
 

1713
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,630
in a fundamentalist setting and then as
they secularize, they kind of retain

1714
00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:27,640
they secularize, they kind of retain
 

1715
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,470
they secularize, they kind of retain
this like Christ lens and they try to

1716
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:30,480
this like Christ lens and they try to
 

1717
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,750
this like Christ lens and they try to
retain like like uh, you know,

1718
00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:32,760
retain like like uh, you know,
 

1719
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,909
retain like like uh, you know,
rationalize the mythology in in a more

1720
00:29:34,909 --> 00:29:34,919
rationalize the mythology in in a more
 

1721
00:29:34,919 --> 00:29:37,310
rationalize the mythology in in a more
abstract way. And some of them stay

1722
00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:37,320
abstract way. And some of them stay
 

1723
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,909
abstract way. And some of them stay
there and some of them eventually just

1724
00:29:38,909 --> 00:29:38,919
there and some of them eventually just
 

1725
00:29:38,919 --> 00:29:40,909
there and some of them eventually just
completely secularize and either become

1726
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:40,919
completely secularize and either become
 

1727
00:29:40,919 --> 00:29:43,790
completely secularize and either become
atheist, agnostic, or whatever. And all

1728
00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:43,800
atheist, agnostic, or whatever. And all
 

1729
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,390
atheist, agnostic, or whatever. And all
of it is fine. The point is that

1730
00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:45,400
of it is fine. The point is that
 

1731
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,910
of it is fine. The point is that
fundamentalism is bad. As long as you

1732
00:29:47,910 --> 00:29:47,920
fundamentalism is bad. As long as you
 

1733
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,310
fundamentalism is bad. As long as you
deprogram from fundamentalism, you can

1734
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:50,320
deprogram from fundamentalism, you can
 

1735
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,790
deprogram from fundamentalism, you can
remain

1736
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:51,800
remain
 

1737
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,630
remain
spiritual or or religious to some

1738
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:54,640
spiritual or or religious to some
 

1739
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,110
spiritual or or religious to some
extent. I know plenty of religious

1740
00:29:56,110 --> 00:29:56,120
extent. I know plenty of religious
 

1741
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,510
extent. I know plenty of religious
people that are in incredibly

1742
00:29:58,510 --> 00:29:58,520
people that are in incredibly
 

1743
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,710
people that are in incredibly
compassionate and tolerant and science

1744
00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:00,720
compassionate and tolerant and science
 

1745
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,310
compassionate and tolerant and science
accepting and not you know what I mean.

1746
00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:03,320
accepting and not you know what I mean.
 

1747
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,910
accepting and not you know what I mean.
Um

1748
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:03,920
Um
 

1749
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,790
Um
but you know I feel like even better is

1750
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:05,800
but you know I feel like even better is
 

1751
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,830
but you know I feel like even better is
kind of shedding that layer as well. But

1752
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:07,840
kind of shedding that layer as well. But
 

1753
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,790
kind of shedding that layer as well. But
but that's everyone's own choice. You

1754
00:30:09,790 --> 00:30:09,800
but that's everyone's own choice. You
 

1755
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,270
but that's everyone's own choice. You
know what I mean. If you want to have a

1756
00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:11,280
know what I mean. If you want to have a
 

1757
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,270
know what I mean. If you want to have a
spiritual lens to the way that you view

1758
00:30:13,270 --> 00:30:13,280
spiritual lens to the way that you view
 

1759
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,990
spiritual lens to the way that you view
the world, that's not you're not anybody

1760
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:16,000
the world, that's not you're not anybody
 

1761
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,030
the world, that's not you're not anybody
by having that personal relationship

1762
00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:18,040
by having that personal relationship
 

1763
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,830
by having that personal relationship
with reality. But um

1764
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:19,840
with reality. But um
 

1765
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,990
with reality. But um
yeah, fundamentalism is a problem,

1766
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:22,000
yeah, fundamentalism is a problem,
 

1767
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,950
yeah, fundamentalism is a problem,
religion not inherently. It's just that

1768
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:24,960
religion not inherently. It's just that
 

1769
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,310
religion not inherently. It's just that
when religion is so present culturally,

1770
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:28,320
when religion is so present culturally,
 

1771
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,710
when religion is so present culturally,
there will always be the risk of special

1772
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:30,720
there will always be the risk of special
 

1773
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,910
there will always be the risk of special
interest groups pulling moderates over

1774
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:32,920
interest groups pulling moderates over
 

1775
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,710
interest groups pulling moderates over
towards fundamentalism, which we are

1776
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:34,720
towards fundamentalism, which we are
 

1777
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,990
towards fundamentalism, which we are
seeing right now.

1778
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:36,000
seeing right now.
 

1779
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,790
seeing right now.
Um

1780
00:30:36,790 --> 00:30:36,800
Um
 

1781
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,470
Um
so it's even better if we can just get

1782
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:38,480
so it's even better if we can just get
 

1783
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,310
so it's even better if we can just get
rid of it entirely, but I would never

1784
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:40,320
rid of it entirely, but I would never
 

1785
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,750
rid of it entirely, but I would never
like yank it away from someone who is

1786
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:42,760
like yank it away from someone who is
 

1787
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,350
like yank it away from someone who is
not problematic. Um I've so many my my

1788
00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:46,360
not problematic. Um I've so many my my
 

1789
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,910
not problematic. Um I've so many my my
wife's entire

1790
00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:47,920
wife's entire
 

1791
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,390
wife's entire
family is is Muslim and there's a very

1792
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:51,400
family is is Muslim and there's a very
 

1793
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,870
family is is Muslim and there's a very
incredible spectrum of religiosity among

1794
00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:53,880
incredible spectrum of religiosity among
 

1795
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,070
incredible spectrum of religiosity among
them. Some of them are

1796
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:56,080
them. Some of them are
 

1797
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,430
them. Some of them are
are pretty devout and and hijabi and

1798
00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:58,440
are pretty devout and and hijabi and
 

1799
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,590
are pretty devout and and hijabi and
pray five times a day and things like

1800
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:59,600
pray five times a day and things like
 

1801
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,190
pray five times a day and things like
that. And some of them like my wife are

1802
00:31:01,190 --> 00:31:01,200
that. And some of them like my wife are
 

1803
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,470
that. And some of them like my wife are
just 100% secular

1804
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:04,480
just 100% secular
 

1805
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,761
just 100% secular
you know atheist. She wouldn't want her

1806
00:31:06,761 --> 00:31:06,771
you know atheist. She wouldn't want her
 

1807
00:31:06,771 --> 00:31:06,830
you know atheist. She wouldn't want her
>> [laughter]

1808
00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:06,840
>> [laughter]
 

1809
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,790
>> [laughter]
>> mom to know that. But

1810
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:08,800
>> mom to know that. But
 

1811
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,390
>> mom to know that. But
you know just

1812
00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:10,400
you know just
 

1813
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,510
you know just
and all of them are completely tolerant

1814
00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:13,520
and all of them are completely tolerant
 

1815
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,030
and all of them are completely tolerant
and compassionate and accept science all

1816
00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:16,040
and compassionate and accept science all
 

1817
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,990
and compassionate and accept science all
you know even the most devout ones are

1818
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:18,000
you know even the most devout ones are
 

1819
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,110
you know even the most devout ones are
not judgmental. They don't like oh you

1820
00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:20,120
not judgmental. They don't like oh you
 

1821
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,950
not judgmental. They don't like oh you
need to do more this or it's nothing

1822
00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:21,960
need to do more this or it's nothing
 

1823
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,230
need to do more this or it's nothing
like that at all. So they're not a

1824
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:24,240
like that at all. So they're not a
 

1825
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,030
like that at all. So they're not a
problem societally at all. And and the

1826
00:31:27,030 --> 00:31:27,040
problem societally at all. And and the
 

1827
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,510
problem societally at all. And and the
same goes for any Christians or any Jews

1828
00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:29,520
same goes for any Christians or any Jews
 

1829
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,110
same goes for any Christians or any Jews
or any Hindus that are also that way.

1830
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:33,120
or any Hindus that are also that way.
 

1831
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,550
or any Hindus that are also that way.
Yeah, the only problem like I said is

1832
00:31:34,550 --> 00:31:34,560
Yeah, the only problem like I said is
 

1833
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,590
Yeah, the only problem like I said is
just

1834
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:35,600
just
 

1835
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,110
just
they it's possible that some of them can

1836
00:31:38,110 --> 00:31:38,120
they it's possible that some of them can
 

1837
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,430
they it's possible that some of them can
get ensnared and and and be and be

1838
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:40,440
get ensnared and and and be and be
 

1839
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,131
get ensnared and and and be and be
polarized to become more

1840
00:31:42,131 --> 00:31:42,141
polarized to become more
 

1841
00:31:42,141 --> 00:31:42,150
polarized to become more
>> [clears throat]

1842
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:42,160
>> [clears throat]
 

1843
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,310
>> [clears throat]
>> radicalized. But um

1844
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:44,320
>> radicalized. But um
 

1845
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,510
>> radicalized. But um
Yep. We see that all over. All right,

1846
00:31:46,510 --> 00:31:46,520
Yep. We see that all over. All right,
 

1847
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,190
Yep. We see that all over. All right,
Austin, thank you for being on the

1848
00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:48,200
Austin, thank you for being on the
 

1849
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,550
Austin, thank you for being on the
camera, man. I

1850
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:50,560
camera, man. I
 

1851
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,470
camera, man. I
welcome to MythVision.

1852
00:31:53,470 --> 00:31:53,480
welcome to MythVision.
 

1853
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,870
welcome to MythVision.
Hello.

1854
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:54,880
Hello.
 

1855
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,230
Hello.
Hey hey hey, are you you creationist?

1856
00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:57,240
Hey hey hey, are you you creationist?
 

1857
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,162
Hey hey hey, are you you creationist?
Oh, my phone's shutting down. I'm sorry.

1858
00:31:59,162 --> 00:31:59,172
Oh, my phone's shutting down. I'm sorry.
 

1859
00:31:59,172 --> 00:32:01,110
Oh, my phone's shutting down. I'm sorry.
[laughter]

1860
00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:01,120
[laughter]
 

1861
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,710
[laughter]
You got a you got a charger there?

1862
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:04,720
You got a you got a charger there?
 

1863
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,510
You got a you got a charger there?
Yeah, it's literally going to turn off.

1864
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:06,520
Yeah, it's literally going to turn off.
 

1865
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,987
Yeah, it's literally going to turn off.
I might be back in a few minutes. Okay.

1866
00:32:08,987 --> 00:32:08,997
I might be back in a few minutes. Okay.
 

1867
00:32:08,997 --> 00:32:10,550
I might be back in a few minutes. Okay.
[snorts] Okay.

1868
00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:10,560
[snorts] Okay.
 

1869
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,350
[snorts] Okay.
Um

1870
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:11,360
Um
 

1871
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,230
Um
yeah. Okay.

1872
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:12,240
yeah. Okay.
 

1873
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,630
yeah. Okay.
>> false starts here.

1874
00:32:13,630 --> 00:32:13,640
>> false starts here.
 

1875
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,630
>> false starts here.
This sucks, man. I WANT SOMEONE TO COME

1876
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:15,640
This sucks, man. I WANT SOMEONE TO COME
 

1877
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,230
This sucks, man. I WANT SOMEONE TO COME
ON. YEAH.

1878
00:32:17,230 --> 00:32:17,240
ON. YEAH.
 

1879
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,990
ON. YEAH.
YEAH, so We we we want that viral

1880
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:20,000
YEAH, so We we we want that viral
 

1881
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,510
YEAH, so We we we want that viral
moment. I I admit that I mean you're

1882
00:32:22,510 --> 00:32:22,520
moment. I I admit that I mean you're
 

1883
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,310
moment. I I admit that I mean you're
probably the most reposted

1884
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:25,320
probably the most reposted
 

1885
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,110
probably the most reposted
uh discussion source on my channel. I've

1886
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:27,120
uh discussion source on my channel. I've
 

1887
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,110
uh discussion source on my channel. I've
probably done reposted like five at

1888
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:29,120
probably done reposted like five at
 

1889
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,830
probably done reposted like five at
least or maybe six of yours. And the one

1890
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:31,840
least or maybe six of yours. And the one
 

1891
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,510
least or maybe six of yours. And the one
that just got so many views is that dick

1892
00:32:34,510 --> 00:32:34,520
that just got so many views is that dick
 

1893
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,430
that just got so many views is that dick
bag flat earther that had a meltdown

1894
00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:36,440
bag flat earther that had a meltdown
 

1895
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,790
bag flat earther that had a meltdown
with me. I I titled it you know like

1896
00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:38,800
with me. I I titled it you know like
 

1897
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,390
with me. I I titled it you know like
flat earther debunked live or something.

1898
00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:40,400
flat earther debunked live or something.
 

1899
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,230
flat earther debunked live or something.
I think it has like a million views on

1900
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:42,240
I think it has like a million views on
 

1901
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,550
I think it has like a million views on
my channel. [laughter] Yeah.

1902
00:32:43,550 --> 00:32:43,560
my channel. [laughter] Yeah.
 

1903
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,550
my channel. [laughter] Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

1904
00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:44,560
Yeah. Yeah.
 

1905
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,110
Yeah. Yeah.
>> I haven't checked that in a while, but I

1906
00:32:46,110 --> 00:32:46,120
>> I haven't checked that in a while, but I
 

1907
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,550
>> I haven't checked that in a while, but I
remember the guy and he was getting real

1908
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:47,560
remember the guy and he was getting real
 

1909
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,669
remember the guy and he was getting real
mad cuz he was trying to say you can't

1910
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:49,679
mad cuz he was trying to say you can't
 

1911
00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:52,430
mad cuz he was trying to say you can't
fly from Chile or something to

1912
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:52,440
fly from Chile or something to
 

1913
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,870
fly from Chile or something to
>> Yeah, he was saying that the flights

1914
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:53,880
>> Yeah, he was saying that the flights
 

1915
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,550
>> Yeah, he was saying that the flights
don't exist. And then he was like well

1916
00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:55,560
don't exist. And then he was like well
 

1917
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,870
don't exist. And then he was like well
let's prove it. Let's get when I'm like

1918
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:56,880
let's prove it. Let's get when I'm like
 

1919
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,310
let's prove it. Let's get when I'm like
what do you want me to do? Meet you in

1920
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:58,320
what do you want me to do? Meet you in
 

1921
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,430
what do you want me to do? Meet you in
Chile and take a flight together? Like

1922
00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:00,440
Chile and take a flight together? Like
 

1923
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,550
Chile and take a flight together? Like
Google it like find the flights, buy a

1924
00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:02,560
Google it like find the flights, buy a
 

1925
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,470
Google it like find the flights, buy a
flight. I you know and then he's like

1926
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:04,480
flight. I you know and then he's like
 

1927
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,830
flight. I you know and then he's like
they won't you can buy it, but it'll

1928
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:05,840
they won't you can buy it, but it'll
 

1929
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,310
they won't you can buy it, but it'll
never take off. I was like what do you

1930
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:07,320
never take off. I was like what do you
 

1931
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,592
never take off. I was like what do you
want me to do with that, man?

1932
00:33:08,592 --> 00:33:08,602
want me to do with that, man?
 

1933
00:33:08,602 --> 00:33:09,030
want me to do with that, man?
>> [laughter]

1934
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:09,040
>> [laughter]
 

1935
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,630
>> [laughter]
>> And then he was melting down about you

1936
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:10,640
>> And then he was melting down about you
 

1937
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,190
>> And then he was melting down about you
know I was talking about the rotation of

1938
00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:12,200
know I was talking about the rotation of
 

1939
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,110
know I was talking about the rotation of
the celestial sphere northern versus

1940
00:33:14,110 --> 00:33:14,120
the celestial sphere northern versus
 

1941
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,390
the celestial sphere northern versus
southern hemisphere.

1942
00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:15,400
southern hemisphere.
 

1943
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,452
southern hemisphere.
And he just like

1944
00:33:16,452 --> 00:33:16,462
And he just like
 

1945
00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:16,790
And he just like
>> [laughter]

1946
00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:16,800
>> [laughter]
 

1947
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,030
>> [laughter]
>> it was so brutal. But

1948
00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:19,040
>> it was so brutal. But
 

1949
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,870
>> it was so brutal. But
>> that when you wouldn't you say those

1950
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:20,880
>> that when you wouldn't you say those
 

1951
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,310
>> that when you wouldn't you say those
were the initial viral debunker videos

1952
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:24,320
were the initial viral debunker videos
 

1953
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,870
were the initial viral debunker videos
you did were the flat earth episodes?

1954
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:26,880
you did were the flat earth episodes?
 

1955
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,630
you did were the flat earth episodes?
Because I remember coming across you

1956
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:28,640
Because I remember coming across you
 

1957
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,710
Because I remember coming across you
years ago and going my god this guy is

1958
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:30,720
years ago and going my god this guy is
 

1959
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,070
years ago and going my god this guy is
going in hard. I mean

1960
00:33:33,070 --> 00:33:33,080
going in hard. I mean
 

1961
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,230
going in hard. I mean
those were the the hottest early on I

1962
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:35,240
those were the the hottest early on I
 

1963
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,630
those were the the hottest early on I
recall of your channel. Maybe there were

1964
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:36,640
recall of your channel. Maybe there were
 

1965
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,030
recall of your channel. Maybe there were
earlier ones, but My very first debunk

1966
00:33:40,030 --> 00:33:40,040
earlier ones, but My very first debunk
 

1967
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,870
earlier ones, but My very first debunk
is still the most viewed video on my

1968
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:41,880
is still the most viewed video on my
 

1969
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,310
is still the most viewed video on my
entire channel. My response to the

1970
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:43,320
entire channel. My response to the
 

1971
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,390
entire channel. My response to the
Globebusters. So Really?

1972
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:45,400
Globebusters. So Really?
 

1973
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,310
Globebusters. So Really?
>> And comparatively I mean my tone was

1974
00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:47,320
>> And comparatively I mean my tone was
 

1975
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,270
>> And comparatively I mean my tone was
very scolding, but

1976
00:33:49,270 --> 00:33:49,280
very scolding, but
 

1977
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,950
very scolding, but
it was a lot nicer than I am now just

1978
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:51,960
it was a lot nicer than I am now just
 

1979
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,990
it was a lot nicer than I am now just
because I've had five six years to like

1980
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:55,000
because I've had five six years to like
 

1981
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,110
because I've had five six years to like
just I'm so done with it. I'm so done

1982
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:57,120
just I'm so done with it. I'm so done
 

1983
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,510
just I'm so done with it. I'm so done
with the constant onslaught of trolls. I

1984
00:33:59,510 --> 00:33:59,520
with the constant onslaught of trolls. I
 

1985
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,669
with the constant onslaught of trolls. I
made an entire video called Professor

1986
00:34:01,669 --> 00:34:01,679
made an entire video called Professor
 

1987
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:02,830
made an entire video called Professor
Davis

1988
00:34:02,830 --> 00:34:02,840
Davis
 

1989
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,270
Davis
stupid toxic jerk face or something like

1990
00:34:04,270 --> 00:34:04,280
stupid toxic jerk face or something like
 

1991
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,870
stupid toxic jerk face or something like
that. Um

1992
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:05,880
that. Um
 

1993
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,149
that. Um
where it's just it's so much of just

1994
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:08,159
where it's just it's so much of just
 

1995
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,630
where it's just it's so much of just
like showing comment thread after

1996
00:34:10,630 --> 00:34:10,640
like showing comment thread after
 

1997
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,349
like showing comment thread after
comment thread after comment thread of

1998
00:34:12,349 --> 00:34:12,359
comment thread after comment thread of
 

1999
00:34:12,359 --> 00:34:14,550
comment thread after comment thread of
some pathetic troll who's having a

2000
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:14,560
some pathetic troll who's having a
 

2001
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,190
some pathetic troll who's having a
tantrum about a video they did not watch

2002
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:17,200
tantrum about a video they did not watch
 

2003
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,349
tantrum about a video they did not watch
a single second of where I expose Avi

2004
00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:20,359
a single second of where I expose Avi
 

2005
00:34:20,359 --> 00:34:21,830
a single second of where I expose Avi
Loeb or you know I

2006
00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:21,840
Loeb or you know I
 

2007
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,869
Loeb or you know I
whatever whatever fraud I'm exposing.

2008
00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:23,879
whatever whatever fraud I'm exposing.
 

2009
00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:25,030
whatever whatever fraud I'm exposing.
Didn't watch a single second of it.

2010
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:25,040
Didn't watch a single second of it.
 

2011
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,750
Didn't watch a single second of it.
You're such a stupid indoctrinated mean

2012
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:26,760
You're such a stupid indoctrinated mean
 

2013
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,750
You're such a stupid indoctrinated mean
jerk face blah blah blah. And I'm just

2014
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:28,760
jerk face blah blah blah. And I'm just
 

2015
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,349
jerk face blah blah blah. And I'm just
saying where am I wrong? Where am I

2016
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:30,359
saying where am I wrong? Where am I
 

2017
00:34:30,359 --> 00:34:31,590
saying where am I wrong? Where am I
wrong? And insulting them as they

2018
00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:31,600
wrong? And insulting them as they
 

2019
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,190
wrong? And insulting them as they
deserve. And they just have a complete

2020
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:33,200
deserve. And they just have a complete
 

2021
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,470
deserve. And they just have a complete
meltdown and uh

2022
00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:35,480
meltdown and uh
 

2023
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,349
meltdown and uh
It's just yeah. So over the years I've

2024
00:34:38,349 --> 00:34:38,359
It's just yeah. So over the years I've
 

2025
00:34:38,359 --> 00:34:39,710
It's just yeah. So over the years I've
gotten a little saltier just because

2026
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:39,720
gotten a little saltier just because
 

2027
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:41,990
gotten a little saltier just because
like I'm done with it, man. Like just

2028
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:42,000
like I'm done with it, man. Like just
 

2029
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,630
like I'm done with it, man. Like just
you're all so pathetic. There's just

2030
00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:44,640
you're all so pathetic. There's just
 

2031
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,950
you're all so pathetic. There's just
nothing there's nothing here to but

2032
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:46,960
nothing there's nothing here to but
 

2033
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,110
nothing there's nothing here to but
mockery. I can do nothing but mock you.

2034
00:34:49,110 --> 00:34:49,120
mockery. I can do nothing but mock you.
 

2035
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,389
mockery. I can do nothing but mock you.
You deserve it. Yeah, and it's kind of

2036
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:51,399
You deserve it. Yeah, and it's kind of
 

2037
00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:53,750
You deserve it. Yeah, and it's kind of
interesting because if you take the I

2038
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:53,760
interesting because if you take the I
 

2039
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,950
interesting because if you take the I
don't know if I'm going to get quite

2040
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:54,960
don't know if I'm going to get quite
 

2041
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,510
don't know if I'm going to get quite
there. Who knows? I might end up getting

2042
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:56,520
there. Who knows? I might end up getting
 

2043
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,510
there. Who knows? I might end up getting
there. I mean I think of

2044
00:34:58,510 --> 00:34:58,520
there. I mean I think of
 

2045
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,150
there. I mean I think of
what's it called the Brandolini's law

2046
00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:01,160
what's it called the Brandolini's law
 

2047
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,590
what's it called the Brandolini's law
takes an order of magnitude more to

2048
00:35:03,590 --> 00:35:03,600
takes an order of magnitude more to
 

2049
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,510
takes an order of magnitude more to
debunk [\h__\h] than it is to make

2050
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:05,520
debunk [\h__\h] than it is to make
 

2051
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,150
debunk [\h__\h] than it is to make
[\h__\h]

2052
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:06,160
[\h__\h]
 

2053
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,750
[\h__\h]
>> 100%. It's absolutely true. You almost

2054
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:08,760
>> 100%. It's absolutely true. You almost
 

2055
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,349
>> 100%. It's absolutely true. You almost
want to match that energy because how

2056
00:35:10,349 --> 00:35:10,359
want to match that energy because how
 

2057
00:35:10,359 --> 00:35:12,950
want to match that energy because how
much time do you have to spend on 15

2058
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:12,960
much time do you have to spend on 15
 

2059
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,630
much time do you have to spend on 15
minutes of someone trying to pretend

2060
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:14,640
minutes of someone trying to pretend
 

2061
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,750
minutes of someone trying to pretend
that they know what they're talking

2062
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:15,760
that they know what they're talking
 

2063
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,349
that they know what they're talking
about, but they're spewing [\h__\h] You

2064
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:17,359
about, but they're spewing [\h__\h] You
 

2065
00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:19,670
about, but they're spewing [\h__\h] You
have to unravel the [\h__\h] Then you

2066
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:19,680
have to unravel the [\h__\h] Then you
 

2067
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,430
have to unravel the [\h__\h] Then you
have to explain why it's [\h__\h] Then

2068
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:21,440
have to explain why it's [\h__\h] Then
 

2069
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,070
have to explain why it's [\h__\h] Then
you have to build up fundamentally and

2070
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:23,080
you have to build up fundamentally and
 

2071
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,190
you have to build up fundamentally and
show your method and explain and it's

2072
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:25,200
show your method and explain and it's
 

2073
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,630
show your method and explain and it's
like dude, there's so much work.

2074
00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:27,640
like dude, there's so much work.
 

2075
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,310
like dude, there's so much work.
>> There's so much. The silver lining

2076
00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:29,320
>> There's so much. The silver lining
 

2077
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,910
>> There's so much. The silver lining
though is if you put in the time and

2078
00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:30,920
though is if you put in the time and
 

2079
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,710
though is if you put in the time and
effort, which I do and and really just

2080
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:33,720
effort, which I do and and really just
 

2081
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:34,950
effort, which I do and and really just
get to the bottom of it and

2082
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:34,960
get to the bottom of it and
 

2083
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,270
get to the bottom of it and
fundamentally expose the propaganda,

2084
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:37,280
fundamentally expose the propaganda,
 

2085
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,950
fundamentally expose the propaganda,
whether it's whether it's one idiot like

2086
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:39,960
whether it's whether it's one idiot like
 

2087
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,349
whether it's whether it's one idiot like
Ashton Forbes or something or it's like

2088
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:42,359
Ashton Forbes or something or it's like
 

2089
00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:44,830
Ashton Forbes or something or it's like
a very well-funded propaganda campaign

2090
00:35:44,830 --> 00:35:44,840
a very well-funded propaganda campaign
 

2091
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,670
a very well-funded propaganda campaign
like Discovery Institute. It when you

2092
00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:46,680
like Discovery Institute. It when you
 

2093
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,750
like Discovery Institute. It when you
really break it down and just really

2094
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:48,760
really break it down and just really
 

2095
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,150
really break it down and just really
thoroughly expose it, their credibility

2096
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:51,160
thoroughly expose it, their credibility
 

2097
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,110
thoroughly expose it, their credibility
is permanently shattered with everybody

2098
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:54,120
is permanently shattered with everybody
 

2099
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,430
is permanently shattered with everybody
who watches that video. And then that

2100
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:55,440
who watches that video. And then that
 

2101
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,070
who watches that video. And then that
has kind of a a trickle-down effect as

2102
00:35:57,070 --> 00:35:57,080
has kind of a a trickle-down effect as
 

2103
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,070
has kind of a a trickle-down effect as
those people influence those around them

2104
00:35:59,070 --> 00:35:59,080
those people influence those around them
 

2105
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,990
those people influence those around them
and uh

2106
00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:00,000
and uh
 

2107
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,230
and uh
um

2108
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:01,240
um
 

2109
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,390
um
yeah, so that's why I do what I do.

2110
00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:03,400
yeah, so that's why I do what I do.
 

2111
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,670
yeah, so that's why I do what I do.
That's wild. We got a couple

2112
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:05,680
That's wild. We got a couple
 

2113
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,470
That's wild. We got a couple
uh

2114
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:06,480
uh
 

2115
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,270
uh
Here we got a new member.

2116
00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:08,280
Here we got a new member.
 

2117
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,630
Here we got a new member.
Um Salernite says most public schools

2118
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:10,640
Um Salernite says most public schools
 

2119
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,950
Um Salernite says most public schools
teach evolution. Why? Someone asked. So

2120
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:12,960
teach evolution. Why? Someone asked. So
 

2121
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,790
teach evolution. Why? Someone asked. So
we're we're waiting just Dave while you

2122
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:14,800
we're we're waiting just Dave while you
 

2123
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,990
we're we're waiting just Dave while you
explain this and this [clears throat]

2124
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:16,000
explain this and this [clears throat]
 

2125
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,750
explain this and this [clears throat]
shouldn't be needed, but I guess it's

2126
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:17,760
shouldn't be needed, but I guess it's
 

2127
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,510
shouldn't be needed, but I guess it's
necessary. Um

2128
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:19,520
necessary. Um
 

2129
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,310
necessary. Um
Call in if you're a creationist who

2130
00:36:21,310 --> 00:36:21,320
Call in if you're a creationist who
 

2131
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,990
Call in if you're a creationist who
thinks that God created the earth. I

2132
00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:23,000
thinks that God created the earth. I
 

2133
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,470
thinks that God created the earth. I
don't care if it's 50,000 years ago. You

2134
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:25,480
don't care if it's 50,000 years ago. You
 

2135
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,110
don't care if it's 50,000 years ago. You
think creation is true, evolution is

2136
00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:29,120
think creation is true, evolution is
 

2137
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,510
think creation is true, evolution is
false,

2138
00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:30,520
false,
 

2139
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,750
false,
uh call in and challenge Dave. All

2140
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:32,760
uh call in and challenge Dave. All
 

2141
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,750
uh call in and challenge Dave. All
right. [clears throat] Sorry.

2142
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:33,760
right. [clears throat] Sorry.
 

2143
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,910
right. [clears throat] Sorry.
>> Yeah, they teach evolution because there

2144
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:35,920
>> Yeah, they teach evolution because there
 

2145
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,390
>> Yeah, they teach evolution because there
there is biology class just like there

2146
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:38,400
there is biology class just like there
 

2147
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,790
there is biology class just like there
is algebra and history and all of the

2148
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:40,800
is algebra and history and all of the
 

2149
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,110
is algebra and history and all of the
other stuff that you learn in school.

2150
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:43,120
other stuff that you learn in school.
 

2151
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,070
other stuff that you learn in school.
Um the point is to learn facts. Where'd

2152
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:46,080
Um the point is to learn facts. Where'd
 

2153
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,910
Um the point is to learn facts. Where'd
you go? I lost you. I'm I'm here. I'm

2154
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:47,920
you go? I lost you. I'm I'm here. I'm
 

2155
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,675
you go? I lost you. I'm I'm here. I'm
here. I'm just

2156
00:36:48,675 --> 00:36:48,685
here. I'm just
 

2157
00:36:48,685 --> 00:36:49,070
here. I'm just
>> [laughter]

2158
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:49,080
>> [laughter]
 

2159
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,310
>> [laughter]
>> giving you spotlight.

2160
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:50,320
>> giving you spotlight.
 

2161
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,070
>> giving you spotlight.
>> Give me the spotlight to make fun of

2162
00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:52,080
>> Give me the spotlight to make fun of
 

2163
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,349
>> Give me the spotlight to make fun of
this comment. I mean it's just come on,

2164
00:36:54,349 --> 00:36:54,359
this comment. I mean it's just come on,
 

2165
00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:56,510
this comment. I mean it's just come on,
man. Like what?

2166
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:56,520
man. Like what?
 

2167
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,150
man. Like what?
Why do schools teach things is your

2168
00:36:59,150 --> 00:36:59,160
Why do schools teach things is your
 

2169
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,150
Why do schools teach things is your
question. What do you want me to do with

2170
00:37:01,150 --> 00:37:01,160
question. What do you want me to do with
 

2171
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,590
question. What do you want me to do with
that? I don't [laughter] know.

2172
00:37:03,590 --> 00:37:03,600
that? I don't [laughter] know.
 

2173
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,510
that? I don't [laughter] know.
Okay, coming back. Oh, looks like no

2174
00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:06,520
Okay, coming back. Oh, looks like no
 

2175
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,990
Okay, coming back. Oh, looks like no
way. We got

2176
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:08,000
way. We got
 

2177
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,910
way. We got
We got a

2178
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:09,920
We got a
 

2179
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,310
We got a
James Tour in the back. Are you serious?

2180
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:13,320
James Tour in the back. Are you serious?
 

2181
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,875
James Tour in the back. Are you serious?
I'M TOTALLY JOKING.

2182
00:37:14,875 --> 00:37:14,885
I'M TOTALLY JOKING.
 

2183
00:37:14,885 --> 00:37:16,670
I'M TOTALLY JOKING.
>> [laughter]

2184
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:16,680
>> [laughter]
 

2185
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,910
>> [laughter]
>> I WISH. [screaming] HOLY [\h__\h] WOULD I BE

2186
00:37:18,910 --> 00:37:18,920
>> I WISH. [screaming] HOLY [\h__\h] WOULD I BE
 

2187
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,670
>> I WISH. [screaming] HOLY [\h__\h] WOULD I BE
LIKE YEAH, he wouldn't even like

2188
00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:20,680
LIKE YEAH, he wouldn't even like
 

2189
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,735
LIKE YEAH, he wouldn't even like
This would be a pretty viral clip if we

2190
00:37:22,735 --> 00:37:22,745
This would be a pretty viral clip if we
 

2191
00:37:22,745 --> 00:37:24,470
This would be a pretty viral clip if we
[laughter] did that. Yeah.

2192
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:24,480
[laughter] did that. Yeah.
 

2193
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,390
[laughter] did that. Yeah.
Look, I wish he would. He wouldn't even

2194
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:26,400
Look, I wish he would. He wouldn't even
 

2195
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,270
Look, I wish he would. He wouldn't even
talk to me. He he offered skeptics this

2196
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:29,280
talk to me. He he offered skeptics this
 

2197
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,910
talk to me. He he offered skeptics this
thing one time. I think I told you this

2198
00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:30,920
thing one time. I think I told you this
 

2199
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,310
thing one time. I think I told you this
last time. He's like hey, I'll be happy

2200
00:37:33,310 --> 00:37:33,320
last time. He's like hey, I'll be happy
 

2201
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,550
last time. He's like hey, I'll be happy
to come on and explain to you why I'm a

2202
00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:35,560
to come on and explain to you why I'm a
 

2203
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,590
to come on and explain to you why I'm a
Christian. And like I'm like okay, I

2204
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:37,600
Christian. And like I'm like okay, I
 

2205
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,110
Christian. And like I'm like okay, I
wrote a very polite, respectful. I mean

2206
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:40,120
wrote a very polite, respectful. I mean
 

2207
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,110
wrote a very polite, respectful. I mean
like I can't be any more polite. I did

2208
00:37:42,110 --> 00:37:42,120
like I can't be any more polite. I did
 

2209
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,390
like I can't be any more polite. I did
not give even a whiff of anything. And I

2210
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:44,400
not give even a whiff of anything. And I
 

2211
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,390
not give even a whiff of anything. And I
was just like look, I'd be happy to have

2212
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:46,400
was just like look, I'd be happy to have
 

2213
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,150
was just like look, I'd be happy to have
a discussion with you and reason with

2214
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:48,160
a discussion with you and reason with
 

2215
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,110
a discussion with you and reason with
you and

2216
00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:49,120
you and
 

2217
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,990
you and
give you my thoughts, you give me my He

2218
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:51,000
give you my thoughts, you give me my He
 

2219
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,670
give you my thoughts, you give me my He
wanted a one

2220
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:52,680
wanted a one
 

2221
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,630
wanted a one
way just let me say it and shut up and

2222
00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:55,640
way just let me say it and shut up and
 

2223
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,150
way just let me say it and shut up and
leave. And then that was it. And it's

2224
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:57,160
leave. And then that was it. And it's
 

2225
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,510
leave. And then that was it. And it's
like I don't care.

2226
00:37:58,510 --> 00:37:58,520
like I don't care.
 

2227
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,349
like I don't care.
>> Yeah. So so get the so this is his his

2228
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:01,359
>> Yeah. So so get the so this is his his
 

2229
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:04,110
>> Yeah. So so get the so this is his his
Jesus was resurrected spiel, right?

2230
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:04,120
Jesus was resurrected spiel, right?
 

2231
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,510
Jesus was resurrected spiel, right?
Yeah. So I in in what in the last video

2232
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:07,520
Yeah. So I in in what in the last video
 

2233
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,950
Yeah. So I in in what in the last video
I did on him,

2234
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,960
I did on him,
 

2235
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,110
I did on him,
um a few people

2236
00:38:11,110 --> 00:38:11,120
um a few people
 

2237
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,790
um a few people
kind of you know tricked him in I mean

2238
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:13,800
kind of you know tricked him in I mean
 

2239
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,150
kind of you know tricked him in I mean
they like did the thing and recorded it

2240
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:16,160
they like did the thing and recorded it
 

2241
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,150
they like did the thing and recorded it
in order to send it to me so I could see

2242
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:18,160
in order to send it to me so I could see
 

2243
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,070
in order to send it to me so I could see
what's going on. And I played clips of

2244
00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:20,080
what's going on. And I played clips of
 

2245
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,710
what's going on. And I played clips of
it. And he really just is steamrolling

2246
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:23,720
it. And he really just is steamrolling
 

2247
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,310
it. And he really just is steamrolling
through his PowerPoint just like this is

2248
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:26,320
through his PowerPoint just like this is
 

2249
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,630
through his PowerPoint just like this is
my spiel that I'm doing for my Jesus

2250
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:28,640
my spiel that I'm doing for my Jesus
 

2251
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,990
my spiel that I'm doing for my Jesus
karma points. Anytime there's like any

2252
00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:31,000
karma points. Anytime there's like any
 

2253
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,670
karma points. Anytime there's like any
like well but what about this? He's like

2254
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:32,680
like well but what about this? He's like
 

2255
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,430
like well but what about this? He's like
I don't get He's just goes right through

2256
00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:34,440
I don't get He's just goes right through
 

2257
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,470
I don't get He's just goes right through
it. I mean it's it's really hysterical.

2258
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:36,480
it. I mean it's it's really hysterical.
 

2259
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,670
it. I mean it's it's really hysterical.
Um Jesus.

2260
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:37,680
Um Jesus.
 

2261
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,061
Um Jesus.
>> So

2262
00:38:38,061 --> 00:38:38,071
>> So
 

2263
00:38:38,071 --> 00:38:38,430
>> So
>> [laughter]

2264
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:38,440
>> [laughter]
 

2265
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,110
>> [laughter]
>> He should probably just stop doing that

2266
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:40,120
>> He should probably just stop doing that
 

2267
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,950
>> He should probably just stop doing that
now at this point cuz he's going to end

2268
00:38:41,950 --> 00:38:41,960
now at this point cuz he's going to end
 

2269
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,950
now at this point cuz he's going to end
up in a situation where Yeah, I was kind

2270
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:44,960
up in a situation where Yeah, I was kind
 

2271
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,110
up in a situation where Yeah, I was kind
of hoping that like more people would do

2272
00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:47,120
of hoping that like more people would do
 

2273
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,510
of hoping that like more people would do
that to the point where he's like well

2274
00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:48,520
that to the point where he's like well
 

2275
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,550
that to the point where he's like well
half of these people are jerks just

2276
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:50,560
half of these people are jerks just
 

2277
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,750
half of these people are jerks just
sending these videos to Dave. So I

2278
00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:52,760
sending these videos to Dave. So I
 

2279
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,781
sending these videos to Dave. So I
shouldn't do it.

2280
00:38:53,781 --> 00:38:53,791
shouldn't do it.
 

2281
00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:53,870
shouldn't do it.
>> [laughter]

2282
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:53,880
>> [laughter]
 

2283
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,070
>> [laughter]
>> Oh my gosh.

2284
00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:55,080
>> Oh my gosh.
 

2285
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,790
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Yeah. Next super chat is Itchy Goat.

2286
00:38:57,790 --> 00:38:57,800
>> Yeah. Next super chat is Itchy Goat.
 

2287
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,870
>> Yeah. Next super chat is Itchy Goat.
Thank you so much or Itchy Goat. Thank

2288
00:38:59,870 --> 00:38:59,880
Thank you so much or Itchy Goat. Thank
 

2289
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,110
Thank you so much or Itchy Goat. Thank
you so much for the super chat.

2290
00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:01,120
you so much for the super chat.
 

2291
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,590
you so much for the super chat.
Professor Dave, your content helped me

2292
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:02,600
Professor Dave, your content helped me
 

2293
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,550
Professor Dave, your content helped me
turn my uncle from flurf to globe model

2294
00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:05,560
turn my uncle from flurf to globe model
 

2295
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,870
turn my uncle from flurf to globe model
and helps me debunk anti-vaccine

2296
00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:07,880
and helps me debunk anti-vaccine
 

2297
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,870
and helps me debunk anti-vaccine
narratives and be able to debunk

2298
00:39:09,870 --> 00:39:09,880
narratives and be able to debunk
 

2299
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,150
narratives and be able to debunk
creationists. That's that's the that's

2300
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:12,160
creationists. That's that's the that's
 

2301
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,630
creationists. That's that's the that's
the trifecta right there. Uh flat earth,

2302
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:14,640
the trifecta right there. Uh flat earth,
 

2303
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,870
the trifecta right there. Uh flat earth,
anti-vax, and creationist.

2304
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:16,880
anti-vax, and creationist.
 

2305
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,990
anti-vax, and creationist.
Those are probably my three most

2306
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:20,000
Those are probably my three most
 

2307
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,470
Those are probably my three most
uh covered topics that I've debunked

2308
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:22,480
uh covered topics that I've debunked
 

2309
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,430
uh covered topics that I've debunked
probably, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

2310
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:25,440
probably, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
 

2311
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,310
probably, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
They're the most viewed of mine that I

2312
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:27,320
They're the most viewed of mine that I
 

2313
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,590
They're the most viewed of mine that I
that I've come across that I think are

2314
00:39:28,590 --> 00:39:28,600
that I've come across that I think are
 

2315
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,910
that I've come across that I think are
like whoa. I mean you see your analytics

2316
00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:30,920
like whoa. I mean you see your analytics
 

2317
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,710
like whoa. I mean you see your analytics
better than anyone else, but then you

2318
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:32,720
better than anyone else, but then you
 

2319
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,630
better than anyone else, but then you
also have Pariah Side Pop. Thank you so

2320
00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:35,640
also have Pariah Side Pop. Thank you so
 

2321
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,870
also have Pariah Side Pop. Thank you so
much for I think I hope I said that

2322
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:36,880
much for I think I hope I said that
 

2323
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,990
much for I think I hope I said that
right. Thank you for the super chat. I

2324
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:39,000
right. Thank you for the super chat. I
 

2325
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,950
right. Thank you for the super chat. I
can larp as a creationist if you want.

2326
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:40,960
can larp as a creationist if you want.
 

2327
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,830
can larp as a creationist if you want.
Nah, we're good. I've had great

2328
00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:42,840
Nah, we're good. I've had great
 

2329
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,350
Nah, we're good. I've had great
practice. Here's $5. Thank you or Derek,

2330
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:45,360
practice. Here's $5. Thank you or Derek,
 

2331
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,870
practice. Here's $5. Thank you or Derek,
I love your channel. I hope the little

2332
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:46,880
I love your channel. I hope the little
 

2333
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,310
I love your channel. I hope the little
one is doing better. Um

2334
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:49,320
one is doing better. Um
 

2335
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,350
one is doing better. Um
yeah, the I mean, I can't even remember

2336
00:39:51,350 --> 00:39:51,360
yeah, the I mean, I can't even remember
 

2337
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,790
yeah, the I mean, I can't even remember
which kid was sick when you wrote this.

2338
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:53,800
which kid was sick when you wrote this.
 

2339
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,430
which kid was sick when you wrote this.
Uh

2340
00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:54,440
Uh
 

2341
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,270
Uh
but all the kids are doing well. We're

2342
00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:56,280
but all the kids are doing well. We're
 

2343
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,790
but all the kids are doing well. We're
all getting over something cuz there's a

2344
00:39:57,790 --> 00:39:57,800
all getting over something cuz there's a
 

2345
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,150
all getting over something cuz there's a
bunch of allergies. We went to go visit

2346
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:00,160
bunch of allergies. We went to go visit
 

2347
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,950
bunch of allergies. We went to go visit
my mother-in-law, Dave. Uh she has stage

2348
00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:01,960
my mother-in-law, Dave. Uh she has stage
 

2349
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,230
my mother-in-law, Dave. Uh she has stage
four stomach cancer. I'm sorry.

2350
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:04,240
four stomach cancer. I'm sorry.
 

2351
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,230
four stomach cancer. I'm sorry.
They found it's it's pretty advanced.

2352
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:06,240
They found it's it's pretty advanced.
 

2353
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:06,630
They found it's it's pretty advanced.
It's

2354
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:06,640
It's
 

2355
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,110
It's
>> Oh. called a sister brother

2356
00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:09,120
>> Oh. called a sister brother
 

2357
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,790
>> Oh. called a sister brother
Joseph Mary nodular and it like it hides

2358
00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:11,800
Joseph Mary nodular and it like it hides
 

2359
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,030
Joseph Mary nodular and it like it hides
on you and then it came up out of

2360
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:13,040
on you and then it came up out of
 

2361
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,470
on you and then it came up out of
nowhere and

2362
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:14,480
nowhere and
 

2363
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,390
nowhere and
so she has like within at this point

2364
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:16,400
so she has like within at this point
 

2365
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,310
so she has like within at this point
probably 10 months max with chemo to

2366
00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:19,320
probably 10 months max with chemo to
 

2367
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,870
probably 10 months max with chemo to
just try and extend her life. Without

2368
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:20,880
just try and extend her life. Without
 

2369
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,950
just try and extend her life. Without
it, maybe two, three months. But uh

2370
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:22,960
it, maybe two, three months. But uh
 

2371
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,830
it, maybe two, three months. But uh
there's a lot of pollen up there in

2372
00:40:24,830 --> 00:40:24,840
there's a lot of pollen up there in
 

2373
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,030
there's a lot of pollen up there in
North Carolina and something happened

2374
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:27,040
North Carolina and something happened
 

2375
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,950
North Carolina and something happened
with our

2376
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:27,960
with our
 

2377
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,550
with our
with getting a little sick from that. Um

2378
00:40:29,550 --> 00:40:29,560
with getting a little sick from that. Um
 

2379
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,710
with getting a little sick from that. Um
>> Yeah. How old are the kiddos?

2380
00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:31,720
>> Yeah. How old are the kiddos?
 

2381
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,950
>> Yeah. How old are the kiddos?
So I have an 18, now 19-year-old. He

2382
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:33,960
So I have an 18, now 19-year-old. He
 

2383
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,830
So I have an 18, now 19-year-old. He
just turned 19. Wow. Yeah, I was pretty

2384
00:40:36,830 --> 00:40:36,840
just turned 19. Wow. Yeah, I was pretty
 

2385
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,950
just turned 19. Wow. Yeah, I was pretty
young, man. I was Look, I was a Jesus

2386
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:38,960
young, man. I was Look, I was a Jesus
 

2387
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,310
young, man. I was Look, I was a Jesus
freak getting married. I am lucky

2388
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:41,320
freak getting married. I am lucky
 

2389
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,910
freak getting married. I am lucky
though. The my partner

2390
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:43,920
though. The my partner
 

2391
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,030
though. The my partner
like most people get married young for

2392
00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:46,040
like most people get married young for
 

2393
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,790
like most people get married young for
dumb reasons or whatever. Like I am very

2394
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:48,800
dumb reasons or whatever. Like I am very
 

2395
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,350
dumb reasons or whatever. Like I am very
lucky and Ryan was 16, I was 17 turning

2396
00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:52,360
lucky and Ryan was 16, I was 17 turning
 

2397
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,830
lucky and Ryan was 16, I was 17 turning
18 when we got married. Wow. Okay.

2398
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:55,840
18 when we got married. Wow. Okay.
 

2399
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,110
18 when we got married. Wow. Okay.
I had

2400
00:40:56,110 --> 00:40:56,120
I had
 

2401
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,670
I had
>> You you look younger than me. You're

2402
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:57,680
>> You you look younger than me. You're
 

2403
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,030
>> You you look younger than me. You're
like what, 37 or 38 or something? 37,

2404
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:00,040
like what, 37 or 38 or something? 37,
 

2405
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,350
like what, 37 or 38 or something? 37,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so my oldest is is 19.

2406
00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:03,360
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so my oldest is is 19.
 

2407
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,270
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so my oldest is is 19.
My young my middle 16 and then my

2408
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:05,280
My young my middle 16 and then my
 

2409
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,830
My young my middle 16 and then my
youngest is 12 turning 13 so in August.

2410
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:07,840
youngest is 12 turning 13 so in August.
 

2411
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,110
youngest is 12 turning 13 so in August.
Yeah.

2412
00:41:08,110 --> 00:41:08,120
Yeah.
 

2413
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,350
Yeah.
>> Okay. I I I thought you're going to be

2414
00:41:09,350 --> 00:41:09,360
>> Okay. I I I thought you're going to be
 

2415
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,510
>> Okay. I I I thought you're going to be
like, oh they got sick cuz they're

2416
00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:10,520
like, oh they got sick cuz they're
 

2417
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,190
like, oh they got sick cuz they're
they're like one and three and like

2418
00:41:12,190 --> 00:41:12,200
they're like one and three and like
 

2419
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,830
they're like one and three and like
little kids get sick all the time.

2420
00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:13,840
little kids get sick all the time.
 

2421
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,430
little kids get sick all the time.
You have adult You have an adult child.

2422
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:16,440
You have adult You have an adult child.
 

2423
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:16,870
You have adult You have an adult child.
Yeah.

2424
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:16,880
Yeah.
 

2425
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,470
Yeah.
>> Wow. Dude, you're going to be You're

2426
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:18,480
>> Wow. Dude, you're going to be You're
 

2427
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,110
>> Wow. Dude, you're going to be You're
going to be in your 40s when you're all

2428
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:20,120
going to be in your 40s when you're all
 

2429
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,110
going to be in your 40s when you're all
done. That's crazy to me. I'm just

2430
00:41:22,110 --> 00:41:22,120
done. That's crazy to me. I'm just
 

2431
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,390
done. That's crazy to me. I'm just
getting going and I'm in my 40s. There's

2432
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:24,400
getting going and I'm in my 40s. There's
 

2433
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,270
getting going and I'm in my 40s. There's
pros and there's cons. The pros are I

2434
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:27,280
pros and there's cons. The pros are I
 

2435
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,070
pros and there's cons. The pros are I
don't have to wake up ass crack of dawn

2436
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:29,080
don't have to wake up ass crack of dawn
 

2437
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,750
don't have to wake up ass crack of dawn
whiny babies, snotty nose, diapers, try

2438
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:31,760
whiny babies, snotty nose, diapers, try
 

2439
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,430
whiny babies, snotty nose, diapers, try
to teach them, train them. The The cons

2440
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:34,440
to teach them, train them. The The cons
 

2441
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,750
to teach them, train them. The The cons
are is that life works backwards, man.

2442
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:37,760
are is that life works backwards, man.
 

2443
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,630
are is that life works backwards, man.
Like when when when you and me are 60 or

2444
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:39,640
Like when when when you and me are 60 or
 

2445
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,350
Like when when when you and me are 60 or
70, we're going to look back and go, I

2446
00:41:41,350 --> 00:41:41,360
70, we're going to look back and go, I
 

2447
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,430
70, we're going to look back and go, I
wish I knew this when I was 12 so I

2448
00:41:44,430 --> 00:41:44,440
wish I knew this when I was 12 so I
 

2449
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,190
wish I knew this when I was 12 so I
didn't do all the dumb [\h__\h] I did in

2450
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:46,200
didn't do all the dumb [\h__\h] I did in
 

2451
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,230
didn't do all the dumb [\h__\h] I did in
life and I thought and went down paths.

2452
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:48,240
life and I thought and went down paths.
 

2453
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,870
life and I thought and went down paths.
You know what I mean? Like

2454
00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:49,880
You know what I mean? Like
 

2455
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,190
You know what I mean? Like
It's always backwards and so there's a

2456
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:52,200
It's always backwards and so there's a
 

2457
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,190
It's always backwards and so there's a
cool advantage of me having a long life

2458
00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:54,200
cool advantage of me having a long life
 

2459
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,590
cool advantage of me having a long life
where I'm not raising kids as an older

2460
00:41:57,590 --> 00:41:57,600
where I'm not raising kids as an older
 

2461
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,470
where I'm not raising kids as an older
person. But they went through some crap

2462
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:00,480
person. But they went through some crap
 

2463
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,310
person. But they went through some crap
that I went through. You see? So

2464
00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:02,320
that I went through. You see? So
 

2465
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,630
that I went through. You see? So
>> Right, that you could have kind of

2466
00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:03,640
>> Right, that you could have kind of
 

2467
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,230
>> Right, that you could have kind of
gotten out of the way before having

2468
00:42:05,230 --> 00:42:05,240
gotten out of the way before having
 

2469
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,870
gotten out of the way before having
kids, yeah. I feel like I kind of split

2470
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:06,880
kids, yeah. I feel like I kind of split
 

2471
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,190
kids, yeah. I feel like I kind of split
the difference. I'm like an average age

2472
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:09,200
the difference. I'm like an average age
 

2473
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,910
the difference. I'm like an average age
dad. So there's like I like I didn't

2474
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:11,920
dad. So there's like I like I didn't
 

2475
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,950
dad. So there's like I like I didn't
have kids until I was you know, could

2476
00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:13,960
have kids until I was you know, could
 

2477
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,070
have kids until I was you know, could
sustain it financially. But also like

2478
00:42:17,070 --> 00:42:17,080
sustain it financially. But also like
 

2479
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,270
sustain it financially. But also like
I'll chase them for a few minutes and

2480
00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:18,280
I'll chase them for a few minutes and
 

2481
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,470
I'll chase them for a few minutes and
I'm like, all right, daddy's got to sit

2482
00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:19,480
I'm like, all right, daddy's got to sit
 

2483
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,109
I'm like, all right, daddy's got to sit
down.

2484
00:42:20,109 --> 00:42:20,119
down.
 

2485
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:20,830
down.
>> [laughter]

2486
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:20,840
>> [laughter]
 

2487
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,430
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah. So.

2488
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:22,440
>> Yeah. So.
 

2489
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,670
>> Yeah. So.
Yeah.

2490
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:22,680
Yeah.
 

2491
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,110
Yeah.
>> Yeah, you'll be you'll be more tired

2492
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:24,120
>> Yeah, you'll be you'll be more tired
 

2493
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,990
>> Yeah, you'll be you'll be more tired
later on, I think. Totally.

2494
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:26,000
later on, I think. Totally.
 

2495
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,470
later on, I think. Totally.
>> said, you don't have to make fake

2496
00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:27,480
>> said, you don't have to make fake
 

2497
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,990
>> said, you don't have to make fake
channels about getting clean, too.

2498
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:30,000
channels about getting clean, too.
 

2499
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,110
channels about getting clean, too.
Uh I don't know what that means.

2500
00:42:32,110 --> 00:42:32,120
Uh I don't know what that means.
 

2501
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,030
Uh I don't know what that means.
>> that's really, really weird to me. Um

2502
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:35,040
>> that's really, really weird to me. Um
 

2503
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,630
>> that's really, really weird to me. Um
Fake channel? I mean, what?

2504
00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:37,640
Fake channel? I mean, what?
 

2505
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,790
Fake channel? I mean, what?
I see Metaphysics Mike in the

2506
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:38,800
I see Metaphysics Mike in the
 

2507
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,270
I see Metaphysics Mike in the
background. I'll give you just a second.

2508
00:42:40,270 --> 00:42:40,280
background. I'll give you just a second.
 

2509
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,630
background. I'll give you just a second.
I'm going to just comment to this. I

2510
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:41,640
I'm going to just comment to this. I
 

2511
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,190
I'm going to just comment to this. I
have an old YouTube channel where I was

2512
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:43,200
have an old YouTube channel where I was
 

2513
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,030
have an old YouTube channel where I was
getting clean off heroin and I document

2514
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:46,040
getting clean off heroin and I document
 

2515
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,670
getting clean off heroin and I document
my experience [snorts]

2516
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:47,680
my experience [snorts]
 

2517
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,470
my experience [snorts]
of getting off of heroin. I was addicted

2518
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:50,480
of getting off of heroin. I was addicted
 

2519
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,350
of getting off of heroin. I was addicted
to to opiates for many years and then it

2520
00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:52,360
to to opiates for many years and then it
 

2521
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,510
to to opiates for many years and then it
progressed and it became injection. Uh

2522
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:55,520
progressed and it became injection. Uh
 

2523
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,110
progressed and it became injection. Uh
bottom of the barrel. I was struck

2524
00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:57,120
bottom of the barrel. I was struck
 

2525
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,510
bottom of the barrel. I was struck
almost 11 years ago. So I documented

2526
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:59,520
almost 11 years ago. So I documented
 

2527
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,030
almost 11 years ago. So I documented
that and during that time is when I

2528
00:43:01,030 --> 00:43:01,040
that and during that time is when I
 

2529
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,790
that and during that time is when I
started to deconvert. So it was around

2530
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:02,800
started to deconvert. So it was around
 

2531
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,630
started to deconvert. So it was around
10, 11 years ago when I started to

2532
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:04,640
10, 11 years ago when I started to
 

2533
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,710
10, 11 years ago when I started to
slowly, gradually come to a more

2534
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:06,720
slowly, gradually come to a more
 

2535
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,870
slowly, gradually come to a more
skeptical uh position, but also

2536
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:09,880
skeptical uh position, but also
 

2537
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,110
skeptical uh position, but also
loving science, learning there was

2538
00:43:12,110 --> 00:43:12,120
loving science, learning there was
 

2539
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,950
loving science, learning there was
critical scholarship all along about the

2540
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:13,960
critical scholarship all along about the
 

2541
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,670
critical scholarship all along about the
Bible I had no clue about all of that.

2542
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:16,680
Bible I had no clue about all of that.
 

2543
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,870
Bible I had no clue about all of that.
But uh that channel is is out there. So

2544
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:18,880
But uh that channel is is out there. So
 

2545
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,590
But uh that channel is is out there. So
I guess it's just some troll trying to,

2546
00:43:20,590 --> 00:43:20,600
I guess it's just some troll trying to,
 

2547
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,390
I guess it's just some troll trying to,
you know, anyway.

2548
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:21,400
you know, anyway.
 

2549
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,870
you know, anyway.
>> Okay. Um

2550
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:22,880
>> Okay. Um
 

2551
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,110
>> Okay. Um
All right, Metaphysics Mike, can you

2552
00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:24,120
All right, Metaphysics Mike, can you
 

2553
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,190
All right, Metaphysics Mike, can you
wave wave at me just so I know you're

2554
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:25,200
wave wave at me just so I know you're
 

2555
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,190
wave wave at me just so I know you're
real? Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right,

2556
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:27,200
real? Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right,
 

2557
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,470
real? Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right,
welcome. Are you a creationist,

2558
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:29,480
welcome. Are you a creationist,
 

2559
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,550
welcome. Are you a creationist,
Metaphysics Mike? Yes, I am. Okay.

2560
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:32,560
Metaphysics Mike? Yes, I am. Okay.
 

2561
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,110
Metaphysics Mike? Yes, I am. Okay.
Finally someone. Thank you.

2562
00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:35,120
Finally someone. Thank you.
 

2563
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,190
Finally someone. Thank you.
All right, so um

2564
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:37,200
All right, so um
 

2565
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,230
All right, so um
you're here to debunk Dave, right?

2566
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:40,240
you're here to debunk Dave, right?
 

2567
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,390
you're here to debunk Dave, right?
I'm going to do my best. Okay. We got

2568
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:42,400
I'm going to do my best. Okay. We got
 

2569
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,870
I'm going to do my best. Okay. We got
limited time

2570
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:43,880
limited time
 

2571
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,230
limited time
and patience.

2572
00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:45,240
and patience.
 

2573
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,950
and patience.
But we'll see. Let's do it. Do you have

2574
00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:47,960
But we'll see. Let's do it. Do you have
 

2575
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,150
But we'll see. Let's do it. Do you have
a Do you have a child on your lap? I do.

2576
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:50,160
a Do you have a child on your lap? I do.
 

2577
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,750
a Do you have a child on your lap? I do.
Yes, I do. Uh listen, I got to take this

2578
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:52,760
Yes, I do. Uh listen, I got to take this
 

2579
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,590
Yes, I do. Uh listen, I got to take this
opportunity. Nobody's joining, man. I

2580
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:54,600
opportunity. Nobody's joining, man. I
 

2581
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,710
opportunity. Nobody's joining, man. I
get to speak with Professor Dave. Oh,

2582
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:56,720
get to speak with Professor Dave. Oh,
 

2583
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:57,550
get to speak with Professor Dave. Oh,
yeah,

2584
00:43:57,550 --> 00:43:57,560
yeah,
 

2585
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,990
yeah,
take it even though I'm with my son.

2586
00:43:58,990 --> 00:43:59,000
take it even though I'm with my son.
 

2587
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,470
take it even though I'm with my son.
This is cool.

2588
00:43:59,470 --> 00:43:59,480
This is cool.
 

2589
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,390
This is cool.
>> That alone we have respect. Okay, go

2590
00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:01,400
>> That alone we have respect. Okay, go
 

2591
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,550
>> That alone we have respect. Okay, go
ahead. Go ahead. Let's Okay, so Dave, do

2592
00:44:03,550 --> 00:44:03,560
ahead. Go ahead. Let's Okay, so Dave, do
 

2593
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,670
ahead. Go ahead. Let's Okay, so Dave, do
you agree that DNA contains highly

2594
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:05,680
you agree that DNA contains highly
 

2595
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,630
you agree that DNA contains highly
specific information?

2596
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:08,640
specific information?
 

2597
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,349
specific information?
You of of a living organism, uh yeah.

2598
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:11,359
You of of a living organism, uh yeah.
 

2599
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:13,790
You of of a living organism, uh yeah.
Not not not in general. Right, it can be

2600
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:13,800
Not not not in general. Right, it can be
 

2601
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,910
Not not not in general. Right, it can be
you can have a DNA strand of any random

2602
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:15,920
you can have a DNA strand of any random
 

2603
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,510
you can have a DNA strand of any random
nuclear bases. But uh the DNA of a of a

2604
00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:18,520
nuclear bases. But uh the DNA of a of a
 

2605
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,750
nuclear bases. But uh the DNA of a of a
living organism has the code for that

2606
00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:20,760
living organism has the code for that
 

2607
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,030
living organism has the code for that
organism, yeah.

2608
00:44:22,030 --> 00:44:22,040
organism, yeah.
 

2609
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,750
organism, yeah.
Okay, so DNA is not just like a chemical

2610
00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:24,760
Okay, so DNA is not just like a chemical
 

2611
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,190
Okay, so DNA is not just like a chemical
blob. It's store It stores instructions

2612
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:28,200
blob. It's store It stores instructions
 

2613
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,830
blob. It's store It stores instructions
using symbolic sequences.

2614
00:44:30,830 --> 00:44:30,840
using symbolic sequences.
 

2615
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,550
using symbolic sequences.
No, it's not it's not a symbolic

2616
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:32,560
No, it's not it's not a symbolic
 

2617
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,110
No, it's not it's not a symbolic
sequence. It's a sequence of nuclear

2618
00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:34,120
sequence. It's a sequence of nuclear
 

2619
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,750
sequence. It's a sequence of nuclear
bases, right? You just have A C T G in

2620
00:44:36,750 --> 00:44:36,760
bases, right? You just have A C T G in
 

2621
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,190
bases, right? You just have A C T G in
some order.

2622
00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:38,200
some order.
 

2623
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,310
some order.
Uh that doesn't make it a blob, right?

2624
00:44:40,310 --> 00:44:40,320
Uh that doesn't make it a blob, right?
 

2625
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,110
Uh that doesn't make it a blob, right?
So let's save some time. You're going to

2626
00:44:42,110 --> 00:44:42,120
So let's save some time. You're going to
 

2627
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,950
So let's save some time. You're going to
do a whole like specified information

2628
00:44:43,950 --> 00:44:43,960
do a whole like specified information
 

2629
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,630
do a whole like specified information
William Dembski thing, right?

2630
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:46,640
William Dembski thing, right?
 

2631
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,830
William Dembski thing, right?
No.

2632
00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:47,840
No.
 

2633
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,030
No.
Okay, then then keep going.

2634
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:50,040
Okay, then then keep going.
 

2635
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,830
Okay, then then keep going.
Let's Let's hear it. Okay, DNA contains

2636
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:52,840
Let's Let's hear it. Okay, DNA contains
 

2637
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,150
Let's Let's hear it. Okay, DNA contains
highly specific information. You agree,

2638
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:55,160
highly specific information. You agree,
 

2639
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,070
highly specific information. You agree,
yes? It has it the DNA of a Right, not

2640
00:44:59,070 --> 00:44:59,080
yes? It has it the DNA of a Right, not
 

2641
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,150
yes? It has it the DNA of a Right, not
generally DNA, right? You can have a DNA

2642
00:45:01,150 --> 00:45:01,160
generally DNA, right? You can have a DNA
 

2643
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,190
generally DNA, right? You can have a DNA
molecule with any random sequence of

2644
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:03,200
molecule with any random sequence of
 

2645
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,750
molecule with any random sequence of
nuclear bases. The DNA contained within

2646
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:05,760
nuclear bases. The DNA contained within
 

2647
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,070
nuclear bases. The DNA contained within
the genome of a living organism has a

2648
00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:08,080
the genome of a living organism has a
 

2649
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,390
the genome of a living organism has a
sequence that is specific to that

2650
00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:09,400
sequence that is specific to that
 

2651
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,750
sequence that is specific to that
organism. It doesn't inherently have

2652
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:11,760
organism. It doesn't inherently have
 

2653
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,790
organism. It doesn't inherently have
specified information.

2654
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:13,800
specified information.
 

2655
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,990
specified information.
Okay, so are you familiar with the the

2656
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:16,000
Okay, so are you familiar with the the
 

2657
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,190
Okay, so are you familiar with the the
tool CRISPR? You you know what that is,

2658
00:45:18,190 --> 00:45:18,200
tool CRISPR? You you know what that is,
 

2659
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,190
tool CRISPR? You you know what that is,
certainly, right? Yeah, okay. So are you

2660
00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:20,200
certainly, right? Yeah, okay. So are you
 

2661
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,390
certainly, right? Yeah, okay. So are you
aware that scientists use CRISPR to put

2662
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:22,400
aware that scientists use CRISPR to put
 

2663
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,030
aware that scientists use CRISPR to put
a GIF inside a living organism's DNA?

2664
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:25,040
a GIF inside a living organism's DNA?
 

2665
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,110
a GIF inside a living organism's DNA?
How is that possible?

2666
00:45:27,110 --> 00:45:27,120
How is that possible?
 

2667
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,030
How is that possible?
What do you mean how's that possible?

2668
00:45:28,030 --> 00:45:28,040
What do you mean how's that possible?
 

2669
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,310
What do you mean how's that possible?
You can excise any portion of the DNA

2670
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:30,320
You can excise any portion of the DNA
 

2671
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,030
You can excise any portion of the DNA
and put in any sequence you want. You

2672
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:32,040
and put in any sequence you want. You
 

2673
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,349
and put in any sequence you want. You
can You can synthesize a sequence of of

2674
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:35,359
can You can synthesize a sequence of of
 

2675
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:38,110
can You can synthesize a sequence of of
of of DNA and insert it in a genome

2676
00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:38,120
of of DNA and insert it in a genome
 

2677
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,070
of of DNA and insert it in a genome
wherever you want. It's site specific

2678
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:40,080
wherever you want. It's site specific
 

2679
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,190
wherever you want. It's site specific
gene editing. Yeah, exactly. So it's a

2680
00:45:42,190 --> 00:45:42,200
gene editing. Yeah, exactly. So it's a
 

2681
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,510
gene editing. Yeah, exactly. So it's a
sequence of specific information like

2682
00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:44,520
sequence of specific information like
 

2683
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,670
sequence of specific information like
code or language, yes?

2684
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:46,680
code or language, yes?
 

2685
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,150
code or language, yes?
It's not code or language. It's just

2686
00:45:49,150 --> 00:45:49,160
It's not code or language. It's just
 

2687
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,870
It's not code or language. It's just
>> It's like code or language.

2688
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:50,880
>> It's like code or language.
 

2689
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,910
>> It's like code or language.
>> It's not. You have four bases All right,

2690
00:45:52,910 --> 00:45:52,920
>> It's not. You have four bases All right,
 

2691
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,710
>> It's not. You have four bases All right,
so then you're just wrong.

2692
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:54,720
so then you're just wrong.
 

2693
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,950
so then you're just wrong.
You're wrong. We're on premise one and

2694
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:55,960
You're wrong. We're on premise one and
 

2695
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,349
You're wrong. We're on premise one and
you've already lost. DNA is specific

2696
00:45:58,349 --> 00:45:58,359
you've already lost. DNA is specific
 

2697
00:45:58,359 --> 00:46:00,550
you've already lost. DNA is specific
coded information. Yeah, no, you're

2698
00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:00,560
coded information. Yeah, no, you're
 

2699
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,070
coded information. Yeah, no, you're
Professor Dave, you don't know that DNA

2700
00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:03,080
Professor Dave, you don't know that DNA
 

2701
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,830
Professor Dave, you don't know that DNA
is coded information. Would you like to

2702
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:04,840
is coded information. Would you like to
 

2703
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,110
is coded information. Would you like to
try again? I know that you can go from

2704
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:07,120
try again? I know that you can go from
 

2705
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,670
try again? I know that you can go from
DNA to mRNA to protein if that's what

2706
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:09,680
DNA to mRNA to protein if that's what
 

2707
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,030
DNA to mRNA to protein if that's what
you're talking about. You're just

2708
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:11,040
you're talking about. You're just
 

2709
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,790
you're talking about. You're just
obfuscating with whining about

2710
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:12,800
obfuscating with whining about
 

2711
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,470
obfuscating with whining about
semantics, right?

2712
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:14,480
semantics, right?
 

2713
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,750
semantics, right?
Let's talk about CRISPR. What How does

2714
00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:16,760
Let's talk about CRISPR. What How does
 

2715
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,470
Let's talk about CRISPR. What How does
CRISPR do anything that you're Right,

2716
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:18,480
CRISPR do anything that you're Right,
 

2717
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,150
CRISPR do anything that you're Right,
human beings say, I'm going to insert

2718
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:21,160
human beings say, I'm going to insert
 

2719
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,150
human beings say, I'm going to insert
this this sequence into a into into the

2720
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:24,160
this this sequence into a into into the
 

2721
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,870
this this sequence into a into into the
genome right there. Who cares? Why Why

2722
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:26,880
genome right there. Who cares? Why Why
 

2723
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,870
genome right there. Who cares? Why Why
What does that have to do with anything?

2724
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:27,880
What does that have to do with anything?
 

2725
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,150
What does that have to do with anything?
>> What it shows is that it's a pattern,

2726
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:30,160
>> What it shows is that it's a pattern,
 

2727
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,990
>> What it shows is that it's a pattern,
right? It can be manipulated. You talk

2728
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:32,000
right? It can be manipulated. You talk
 

2729
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,750
right? It can be manipulated. You talk
about T C G, right? Okay, so that makes

2730
00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:34,760
about T C G, right? Okay, so that makes
 

2731
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,349
about T C G, right? Okay, so that makes
it a code.

2732
00:46:36,349 --> 00:46:36,359
it a code.
 

2733
00:46:36,359 --> 00:46:38,110
it a code.
That makes it a code like information.

2734
00:46:38,110 --> 00:46:38,120
That makes it a code like information.
 

2735
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,070
That makes it a code like information.
Okay, so let's try this again.

2736
00:46:40,070 --> 00:46:40,080
Okay, so let's try this again.
 

2737
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,670
Okay, so let's try this again.
DNA contains highly

2738
00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:42,680
DNA contains highly
 

2739
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,710
DNA contains highly
DNA contains highly specific

2740
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:44,720
DNA contains highly specific
 

2741
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,190
DNA contains highly specific
information, yes? In a living organism.

2742
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:47,200
information, yes? In a living organism.
 

2743
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,390
information, yes? In a living organism.
You're starting to repeat yourself.

2744
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:48,400
You're starting to repeat yourself.
 

2745
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,110
You're starting to repeat yourself.
We're getting really close to muting and

2746
00:46:50,110 --> 00:46:50,120
We're getting really close to muting and
 

2747
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,349
We're getting really close to muting and
bailing on you, dude. You don't

2748
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:51,359
bailing on you, dude. You don't
 

2749
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,390
bailing on you, dude. You don't
understand that DNA is code. You You

2750
00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:53,400
understand that DNA is code. You You
 

2751
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,830
understand that DNA is code. You You
haven't comprehended that yet.

2752
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:54,840
haven't comprehended that yet.
 

2753
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,470
haven't comprehended that yet.
>> said that that a gene codes for a

2754
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:56,480
>> said that that a gene codes for a
 

2755
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,070
>> said that that a gene codes for a
protein. Yes. Okay, great. Okay. So

2756
00:46:59,070 --> 00:46:59,080
protein. Yes. Okay, great. Okay. So
 

2757
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,590
protein. Yes. Okay, great. Okay. So
currently any random DNA strand isn't a

2758
00:47:01,590 --> 00:47:01,600
currently any random DNA strand isn't a
 

2759
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,150
currently any random DNA strand isn't a
code just because you say so. You can

2760
00:47:03,150 --> 00:47:03,160
code just because you say so. You can
 

2761
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,790
code just because you say so. You can
have a random You can have a strand You

2762
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:04,800
have a random You can have a strand You
 

2763
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,110
have a random You can have a strand You
can have a DNA strand of random bases.

2764
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:07,120
can have a DNA strand of random bases.
 

2765
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,990
can have a DNA strand of random bases.
That doesn't code for anything.

2766
00:47:08,990 --> 00:47:09,000
That doesn't code for anything.
 

2767
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,510
That doesn't code for anything.
Okay. All right, so

2768
00:47:10,510 --> 00:47:10,520
Okay. All right, so
 

2769
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,110
Okay. All right, so
you're agreeing with me that DNA

2770
00:47:12,110 --> 00:47:12,120
you're agreeing with me that DNA
 

2771
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,990
you're agreeing with me that DNA
contains specific information. All

2772
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:14,000
contains specific information. All
 

2773
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,750
contains specific information. All
right, premise two. Codes and

2774
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:15,760
right, premise two. Codes and
 

2775
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,110
right, premise two. Codes and
information in an ordinary experience

2776
00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:19,120
information in an ordinary experience
 

2777
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,270
information in an ordinary experience
come from minds. Do you agree with that?

2778
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:21,280
come from minds. Do you agree with that?
 

2779
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,150
come from minds. Do you agree with that?
>> We can create codes. That doesn't mean

2780
00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:23,160
>> We can create codes. That doesn't mean
 

2781
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,870
>> We can create codes. That doesn't mean
anything that acts as a code must come

2782
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:24,880
anything that acts as a code must come
 

2783
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,950
anything that acts as a code must come
from a mind. That's

2784
00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:25,960
from a mind. That's
 

2785
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,710
from a mind. That's
>> Okay, so okay, so let me get this right.

2786
00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:27,720
>> Okay, so okay, so let me get this right.
 

2787
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,150
>> Okay, so okay, so let me get this right.
Computer code, books, blueprints,

2788
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:30,160
Computer code, books, blueprints,
 

2789
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,630
Computer code, books, blueprints,
software Yeah, those are all things that

2790
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:32,640
software Yeah, those are all things that
 

2791
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,870
software Yeah, those are all things that
humans created. Humans can create things

2792
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:34,880
humans created. Humans can create things
 

2793
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,550
humans created. Humans can create things
that doesn't mean that DNA is made by

2794
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:36,560
that doesn't mean that DNA is made by
 

2795
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,430
that doesn't mean that DNA is made by
humans. Do humans have minds? Do humans

2796
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:39,440
humans. Do humans have minds? Do humans
 

2797
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,750
humans. Do humans have minds? Do humans
have minds? Let's get a finger on the on

2798
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:41,760
have minds? Let's get a finger on the on
 

2799
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,070
have minds? Let's get a finger on the on
the mute and disconnect button here.

2800
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:43,080
the mute and disconnect button here.
 

2801
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,830
the mute and disconnect button here.
This guy's getting real testy. Yeah,

2802
00:47:44,830 --> 00:47:44,840
This guy's getting real testy. Yeah,
 

2803
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,710
This guy's getting real testy. Yeah,
we're getting heated here and I I I'm

2804
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:46,720
we're getting heated here and I I I'm
 

2805
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:47,870
we're getting heated here and I I I'm
enjoying that we're getting heated, but

2806
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:47,880
enjoying that we're getting heated, but
 

2807
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,870
enjoying that we're getting heated, but
we got to let we got to let Professor

2808
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:49,880
we got to let we got to let Professor
 

2809
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,790
we got to let we got to let Professor
Dave at least get some back and forth

2810
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:52,800
Dave at least get some back and forth
 

2811
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,030
Dave at least get some back and forth
here.

2812
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:53,040
here.
 

2813
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,990
here.
>> My my bad. If I cut you off too early,

2814
00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:55,000
>> My my bad. If I cut you off too early,
 

2815
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,670
>> My my bad. If I cut you off too early,
Dave, my bad. Humans can create codes.

2816
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:57,680
Dave, my bad. Humans can create codes.
 

2817
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,270
Dave, my bad. Humans can create codes.
That doesn't mean that any system that

2818
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:59,280
That doesn't mean that any system that
 

2819
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,070
That doesn't mean that any system that
behaves as a code must be created.

2820
00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:01,080
behaves as a code must be created.
 

2821
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,990
behaves as a code must be created.
That's a fallacious reasoning. Sorry.

2822
00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:03,000
That's a fallacious reasoning. Sorry.
 

2823
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,190
That's a fallacious reasoning. Sorry.
>> Okay. All right, so then you're still

2824
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:05,200
>> Okay. All right, so then you're still
 

2825
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,790
>> Okay. All right, so then you're still
agreeing though that everything like DNA

2826
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:07,800
agreeing though that everything like DNA
 

2827
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,030
agreeing though that everything like DNA
in our world like code, books,

2828
00:48:10,030 --> 00:48:10,040
in our world like code, books,
 

2829
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,510
in our world like code, books,
blueprints,

2830
00:48:12,510 --> 00:48:12,520
blueprints,
 

2831
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,470
blueprints,
Can you tell him not to cut me off,

2832
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:14,480
Can you tell him not to cut me off,
 

2833
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,430
Can you tell him not to cut me off,
Myth? You going to tell him not to cut

2834
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:16,440
Myth? You going to tell him not to cut
 

2835
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,030
Myth? You going to tell him not to cut
me off? Let him know.

2836
00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:18,040
me off? Let him know.
 

2837
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,790
me off? Let him know.
>> We're done. We're done.

2838
00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:19,800
>> We're done. We're done.
 

2839
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,870
>> We're done. We're done.
We're done.

2840
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:20,880
We're done.
 

2841
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,830
We're done.
>> All right. All right. All right, you you

2842
00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:22,840
>> All right. All right. All right, you you
 

2843
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,070
>> All right. All right. All right, you you
got to

2844
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:23,080
got to
 

2845
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,190
got to
>> Every [\h__\h] time, man.

2846
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:25,200
>> Every [\h__\h] time, man.
 

2847
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,790
>> Every [\h__\h] time, man.
Look look look look, at the end of the

2848
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:26,800
Look look look look, at the end of the
 

2849
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,190
Look look look look, at the end of the
day, I really, really wish

2850
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:29,200
day, I really, really wish
 

2851
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,870
day, I really, really wish
uh we could try to have a debate, but

2852
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:30,880
uh we could try to have a debate, but
 

2853
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,550
uh we could try to have a debate, but
not scream. It's kind of loud. A lot of

2854
00:48:33,550 --> 00:48:33,560
not scream. It's kind of loud. A lot of
 

2855
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,190
not scream. It's kind of loud. A lot of
people were saying

2856
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:34,200
people were saying
 

2857
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,790
people were saying
>> I mean, it's a lot of emotional

2858
00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:35,800
>> I mean, it's a lot of emotional
 

2859
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,393
>> I mean, it's a lot of emotional
investment there, you know.

2860
00:48:37,393 --> 00:48:37,403
investment there, you know.
 

2861
00:48:37,403 --> 00:48:38,150
investment there, you know.
>> [laughter]

2862
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:38,160
>> [laughter]
 

2863
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,150
>> [laughter]
>> I mean, look, let's continue. We can

2864
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:40,160
>> I mean, look, let's continue. We can
 

2865
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,990
>> I mean, look, let's continue. We can
continue talking about this. This is

2866
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:42,000
continue talking about this. This is
 

2867
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,430
continue talking about this. This is
This is what they do, right? They They

2868
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:43,440
This is what they do, right? They They
 

2869
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,390
This is what they do, right? They They
play up this thing of like a code. Like

2870
00:48:45,390 --> 00:48:45,400
play up this thing of like a code. Like
 

2871
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,710
play up this thing of like a code. Like
if humans make Morse code and all of

2872
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:48,720
if humans make Morse code and all of
 

2873
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,430
if humans make Morse code and all of
these, you know, cryptography and all of

2874
00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:50,440
these, you know, cryptography and all of
 

2875
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,349
these, you know, cryptography and all of
these codes, that means DNA has to be

2876
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:53,359
these codes, that means DNA has to be
 

2877
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,190
these codes, that means DNA has to be
have to has to come from a creator

2878
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:55,200
have to has to come from a creator
 

2879
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,110
have to has to come from a creator
because it act you can arguably acts as

2880
00:48:58,110 --> 00:48:58,120
because it act you can arguably acts as
 

2881
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,230
because it act you can arguably acts as
a code in transcription and translation.

2882
00:49:00,230 --> 00:49:00,240
a code in transcription and translation.
 

2883
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,990
a code in transcription and translation.
It's completely fallacious. You can have

2884
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:03,000
It's completely fallacious. You can have
 

2885
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,510
It's completely fallacious. You can have
random sequences of nucleotides that

2886
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:05,520
random sequences of nucleotides that
 

2887
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,070
random sequences of nucleotides that
through natural selection, right? You

2888
00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:07,080
through natural selection, right? You
 

2889
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,310
through natural selection, right? You
have random changes that code for some

2890
00:49:09,310 --> 00:49:09,320
have random changes that code for some
 

2891
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,310
have random changes that code for some
functionality that is then selected for.

2892
00:49:11,310 --> 00:49:11,320
functionality that is then selected for.
 

2893
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,430
functionality that is then selected for.
That's it. That's all it is. Uh there's

2894
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:13,440
That's it. That's all it is. Uh there's
 

2895
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,670
That's it. That's all it is. Uh there's
no point in like trying to talk about

2896
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:14,680
no point in like trying to talk about
 

2897
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,710
no point in like trying to talk about
systems chemistry with that guy. There's

2898
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:16,720
systems chemistry with that guy. There's
 

2899
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,670
systems chemistry with that guy. There's
no I mean, won't be able to do it, so

2900
00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:18,680
no I mean, won't be able to do it, so
 

2901
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,279
no I mean, won't be able to do it, so
he'll just start yelling uh but yeah.

2902
00:49:21,279 --> 00:49:21,289
he'll just start yelling uh but yeah.
 

2903
00:49:21,289 --> 00:49:21,750
he'll just start yelling uh but yeah.
>> [laughter]

2904
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:21,760
>> [laughter]
 

2905
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,990
>> [laughter]
>> Okay. Okay, yeah. So yeah, that was It's

2906
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:24,000
>> Okay. Okay, yeah. So yeah, that was It's
 

2907
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,950
>> Okay. Okay, yeah. So yeah, that was It's
interesting the I watched the show

2908
00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:25,960
interesting the I watched the show
 

2909
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,070
interesting the I watched the show
before we get to our next caller. Um I

2910
00:49:28,070 --> 00:49:28,080
before we get to our next caller. Um I
 

2911
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,510
before we get to our next caller. Um I
watched that recent show on dinosaurs on

2912
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:30,520
watched that recent show on dinosaurs on
 

2913
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,830
watched that recent show on dinosaurs on
Netflix. It was really well done. The

2914
00:49:32,830 --> 00:49:32,840
Netflix. It was really well done. The
 

2915
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,034
Netflix. It was really well done. The
polished feel did it. Uh

2916
00:49:35,034 --> 00:49:35,044
polished feel did it. Uh
 

2917
00:49:35,044 --> 00:49:35,190
polished feel did it. Uh
>> [sighs and gasps]

2918
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:35,200
>> [sighs and gasps]
 

2919
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,430
>> [sighs and gasps]
>> I don't know if it was Spielberg, but I

2920
00:49:36,430 --> 00:49:36,440
>> I don't know if it was Spielberg, but I
 

2921
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,590
>> I don't know if it was Spielberg, but I
know that the uh I think he had a hand

2922
00:49:38,590 --> 00:49:38,600
know that the uh I think he had a hand
 

2923
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,830
know that the uh I think he had a hand
in it. I I didn't watch it, but uh but I

2924
00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:40,840
in it. I I didn't watch it, but uh but I
 

2925
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,590
in it. I I didn't watch it, but uh but I
think he had a had something to do with

2926
00:49:42,590 --> 00:49:42,600
think he had a had something to do with
 

2927
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,470
think he had a had something to do with
it.

2928
00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:43,480
it.
 

2929
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,670
it.
Morgan [snorts] Freeman did the whole

2930
00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:44,680
Morgan [snorts] Freeman did the whole
 

2931
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,310
Morgan [snorts] Freeman did the whole
narration, and it's

2932
00:49:46,310 --> 00:49:46,320
narration, and it's
 

2933
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,470
narration, and it's
freaking gold.

2934
00:49:47,470 --> 00:49:47,480
freaking gold.
 

2935
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,070
freaking gold.
>> What is a science documentary without

2936
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:49,080
>> What is a science documentary without
 

2937
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,350
>> What is a science documentary without
Morgan Freeman documentary narrating it?

2938
00:49:51,350 --> 00:49:51,360
Morgan Freeman documentary narrating it?
 

2939
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,870
Morgan Freeman documentary narrating it?
Yeah, so here you have an omniscient

2940
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:53,880
Yeah, so here you have an omniscient
 

2941
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,710
Yeah, so here you have an omniscient
narrator telling us the story of the

2942
00:49:55,710 --> 00:49:55,720
narrator telling us the story of the
 

2943
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:57,030
narrator telling us the story of the
dinosaurs, but there's another one, of

2944
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:57,040
dinosaurs, but there's another one, of
 

2945
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,550
dinosaurs, but there's another one, of
course, that he does Life on Earth. And

2946
00:49:59,550 --> 00:49:59,560
course, that he does Life on Earth. And
 

2947
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,390
course, that he does Life on Earth. And
I'm watching just natural the way that

2948
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:02,400
I'm watching just natural the way that
 

2949
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,310
I'm watching just natural the way that
they describe how nature itself starts

2950
00:50:04,310 --> 00:50:04,320
they describe how nature itself starts
 

2951
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,710
they describe how nature itself starts
to select. You know, it's doing its own

2952
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:06,720
to select. You know, it's doing its own
 

2953
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,110
to select. You know, it's doing its own
thing in the environments and all of

2954
00:50:08,110 --> 00:50:08,120
thing in the environments and all of
 

2955
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,310
thing in the environments and all of
those pressures, and I'm thinking, okay,

2956
00:50:10,310 --> 00:50:10,320
those pressures, and I'm thinking, okay,
 

2957
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,030
those pressures, and I'm thinking, okay,
this is an is an analogy to your point

2958
00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:12,040
this is an is an analogy to your point
 

2959
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,790
this is an is an analogy to your point
about we can go and look at what humans

2960
00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:13,800
about we can go and look at what humans
 

2961
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,150
about we can go and look at what humans
have done.

2962
00:50:15,150 --> 00:50:15,160
have done.
 

2963
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,430
have done.
But then, how do you It's not an

2964
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:17,440
But then, how do you It's not an
 

2965
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,550
But then, how do you It's not an
analogy. It's it's just how how

2966
00:50:19,550 --> 00:50:19,560
analogy. It's it's just how how
 

2967
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,510
analogy. It's it's just how how
evolution works, right? You have random

2968
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:21,520
evolution works, right? You have random
 

2969
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,390
evolution works, right? You have random
changes to the genome that are then

2970
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:23,400
changes to the genome that are then
 

2971
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,510
changes to the genome that are then
selected for because if they confer a

2972
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:25,520
selected for because if they confer a
 

2973
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,670
selected for because if they confer a
survival advantage, they're more likely

2974
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:27,680
survival advantage, they're more likely
 

2975
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,910
survival advantage, they're more likely
to survive and reproduce, and thus it

2976
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:29,920
to survive and reproduce, and thus it
 

2977
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,830
to survive and reproduce, and thus it
will proliferate in a in a statistically

2978
00:50:31,830 --> 00:50:31,840
will proliferate in a in a statistically
 

2979
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,630
will proliferate in a in a statistically
significant way, that particular

2980
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:33,640
significant way, that particular
 

2981
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,630
significant way, that particular
mutation. So, I mean he definitely

2982
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:35,640
mutation. So, I mean he definitely
 

2983
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,270
mutation. So, I mean he definitely
doesn't understand that. What he would

2984
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:37,280
doesn't understand that. What he would
 

2985
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,590
doesn't understand that. What he would
probably do

2986
00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:38,600
probably do
 

2987
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,110
probably do
what what a lot of creationists do is

2988
00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:40,120
what what a lot of creationists do is
 

2989
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,430
what what a lot of creationists do is
try to go all the way back to

2990
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:41,440
try to go all the way back to
 

2991
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,990
try to go all the way back to
abiogenesis, which they think is where

2992
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:44,000
abiogenesis, which they think is where
 

2993
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,390
abiogenesis, which they think is where
DNA came from, which it didn't. Right,

2994
00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:45,400
DNA came from, which it didn't. Right,
 

2995
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,470
DNA came from, which it didn't. Right,
the first life was clearly RNA-based,

2996
00:50:47,470 --> 00:50:47,480
the first life was clearly RNA-based,
 

2997
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,070
the first life was clearly RNA-based,
and then DNA came after. Um and so, they

2998
00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:50,080
and then DNA came after. Um and so, they
 

2999
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,990
and then DNA came after. Um and so, they
can try to like whine about how did we

3000
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:52,000
can try to like whine about how did we
 

3001
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,550
can try to like whine about how did we
get DNA in the first place, which which

3002
00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:53,560
get DNA in the first place, which which
 

3003
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,070
get DNA in the first place, which which
is a totally valid

3004
00:50:55,070 --> 00:50:55,080
is a totally valid
 

3005
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,710
is a totally valid
uh thing to discuss, right? Um

3006
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:57,720
uh thing to discuss, right? Um
 

3007
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,390
uh thing to discuss, right? Um
we don't have every single puzzle piece

3008
00:51:00,390 --> 00:51:00,400
we don't have every single puzzle piece
 

3009
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,870
we don't have every single puzzle piece
about how you know, auto

3010
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:02,880
about how you know, auto
 

3011
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,990
about how you know, auto
autocatalytic sets of RNA uh first began

3012
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:06,000
autocatalytic sets of RNA uh first began
 

3013
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,510
autocatalytic sets of RNA uh first began
to proliferate, and we aren't don't have

3014
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:07,520
to proliferate, and we aren't don't have
 

3015
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,750
to proliferate, and we aren't don't have
every puzzle piece about how DNA uh came

3016
00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:10,760
every puzzle piece about how DNA uh came
 

3017
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,070
every puzzle piece about how DNA uh came
to take over from RNA as the genetic

3018
00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:13,080
to take over from RNA as the genetic
 

3019
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,950
to take over from RNA as the genetic
code. Right, we understand the benefits

3020
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:14,960
code. Right, we understand the benefits
 

3021
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,390
code. Right, we understand the benefits
of DNA over RNA, way more stable. Um but

3022
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:18,400
of DNA over RNA, way more stable. Um but
 

3023
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,230
of DNA over RNA, way more stable. Um but
uh but yeah, I mean, it just for if

3024
00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:21,240
uh but yeah, I mean, it just for if
 

3025
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:22,910
uh but yeah, I mean, it just for if
somebody doesn't have any understanding

3026
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:22,920
somebody doesn't have any understanding
 

3027
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,470
somebody doesn't have any understanding
of molecular biology, what is the point

3028
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:24,480
of molecular biology, what is the point
 

3029
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,190
of molecular biology, what is the point
of having that conversation? There's

3030
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:26,200
of having that conversation? There's
 

3031
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,230
of having that conversation? There's
there's nothing to have to have there,

3032
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:28,240
there's nothing to have to have there,
 

3033
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:29,190
there's nothing to have to have there,
you know.

3034
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:29,200
you know.
 

3035
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,270
you know.
Got it, got it. All right, uh Austin,

3036
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:31,280
Got it, got it. All right, uh Austin,
 

3037
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,990
Got it, got it. All right, uh Austin,
what is up? Welcome back, man.

3038
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:34,000
what is up? Welcome back, man.
 

3039
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,350
what is up? Welcome back, man.
Hey, what's up, guys? How you doing?

3040
00:51:36,350 --> 00:51:36,360
Hey, what's up, guys? How you doing?
 

3041
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,310
Hey, what's up, guys? How you doing?
Good, good. Are you a creationist?

3042
00:51:39,310 --> 00:51:39,320
Good, good. Are you a creationist?
 

3043
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,790
Good, good. Are you a creationist?
Um [snorts]

3044
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:40,800
Um [snorts]
 

3045
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,670
Um [snorts]
I don't know, but I got some questions

3046
00:51:42,670 --> 00:51:42,680
I don't know, but I got some questions
 

3047
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,830
I don't know, but I got some questions
related to it. Shoot.

3048
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:45,840
related to it. Shoot.
 

3049
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,630
related to it. Shoot.
Okay, um well, first a comment. I think

3050
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:48,640
Okay, um well, first a comment. I think
 

3051
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,310
Okay, um well, first a comment. I think
I actually do know that, Mike guy. I

3052
00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:50,320
I actually do know that, Mike guy. I
 

3053
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,110
I actually do know that, Mike guy. I
think code is just

3054
00:51:52,110 --> 00:51:52,120
think code is just
 

3055
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,590
think code is just
a description of the mechanics, you

3056
00:51:54,590 --> 00:51:54,600
a description of the mechanics, you
 

3057
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,630
a description of the mechanics, you
know? Would you agree with that? Sure,

3058
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:56,640
know? Would you agree with that? Sure,
 

3059
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,030
know? Would you agree with that? Sure,
yeah. I mean, you have you have a

3060
00:51:58,030 --> 00:51:58,040
yeah. I mean, you have you have a
 

3061
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,190
yeah. I mean, you have you have a
sequence of of nucleobases that are that

3062
00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:01,200
sequence of of nucleobases that are that
 

3063
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,230
sequence of of nucleobases that are that
are read by uh that that are read by RNA

3064
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:03,240
are read by uh that that are read by RNA
 

3065
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:04,750
are read by uh that that are read by RNA
polymerase to generate an mRNA

3066
00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:04,760
polymerase to generate an mRNA
 

3067
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,590
polymerase to generate an mRNA
transcript, and the mRNA transcript is

3068
00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:06,600
transcript, and the mRNA transcript is
 

3069
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,990
transcript, and the mRNA transcript is
read in the ribosome to generate a

3070
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:08,000
read in the ribosome to generate a
 

3071
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,030
read in the ribosome to generate a
protein. So, in that sense, right, you

3072
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:10,040
protein. So, in that sense, right, you
 

3073
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,750
protein. So, in that sense, right, you
have uh codons, these three bases that

3074
00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:12,760
have uh codons, these three bases that
 

3075
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,230
have uh codons, these three bases that
code for a particular amino acid. So, it

3076
00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:15,240
code for a particular amino acid. So, it
 

3077
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:16,830
code for a particular amino acid. So, it
it it is perfectly acceptable to refer

3078
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:16,840
it it is perfectly acceptable to refer
 

3079
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,030
it it is perfectly acceptable to refer
to it as a code, but it doesn't then

3080
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:19,040
to it as a code, but it doesn't then
 

3081
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,350
to it as a code, but it doesn't then
follow that just because we make codes

3082
00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:22,360
follow that just because we make codes
 

3083
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,230
follow that just because we make codes
that that was made by something

3084
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:24,240
that that was made by something
 

3085
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,430
that that was made by something
sentient. It can totally form by natural

3086
00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:26,440
sentient. It can totally form by natural
 

3087
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,550
sentient. It can totally form by natural
processes.

3088
00:52:28,550 --> 00:52:28,560
processes.
 

3089
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,550
processes.
Yeah, it's like a description of a

3090
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:30,560
Yeah, it's like a description of a
 

3091
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,110
Yeah, it's like a description of a
really complex machine.

3092
00:52:32,110 --> 00:52:32,120
really complex machine.
 

3093
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,710
really complex machine.
>> It's a description yeah, it is it's a

3094
00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:33,720
>> It's a description yeah, it is it's a
 

3095
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:36,470
>> It's a description yeah, it is it's a
description of a thing that happens.

3096
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:36,480
description of a thing that happens.
 

3097
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,990
description of a thing that happens.
Yeah. Um

3098
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:39,000
Yeah. Um
 

3099
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,630
Yeah. Um
I was thinking I guess there's two

3100
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:42,640
I was thinking I guess there's two
 

3101
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,870
I was thinking I guess there's two
ideas I had. One is what

3102
00:52:45,870 --> 00:52:45,880
ideas I had. One is what
 

3103
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,510
ideas I had. One is what
Well, I guess I'll jump to the second

3104
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:47,520
Well, I guess I'll jump to the second
 

3105
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,430
Well, I guess I'll jump to the second
one. I don't really know much, but

3106
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:49,440
one. I don't really know much, but
 

3107
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,430
one. I don't really know much, but
wouldn't like ideas of hybrid

3108
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:52,440
wouldn't like ideas of hybrid
 

3109
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,150
wouldn't like ideas of hybrid
um I guess I would call them hybrid. I

3110
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:54,160
um I guess I would call them hybrid. I
 

3111
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,990
um I guess I would call them hybrid. I
don't know what they are, but hybrid

3112
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:56,000
don't know what they are, but hybrid
 

3113
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,950
don't know what they are, but hybrid
animals kind of like

3114
00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:57,960
animals kind of like
 

3115
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,510
animals kind of like
uh [snorts] complicate things with

3116
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:59,520
uh [snorts] complicate things with
 

3117
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,830
uh [snorts] complicate things with
transitional fossils? Cuz you would have

3118
00:53:01,830 --> 00:53:01,840
transitional fossils? Cuz you would have
 

3119
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,070
transitional fossils? Cuz you would have
like, you know, this species can or this

3120
00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:04,080
like, you know, this species can or this
 

3121
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,830
like, you know, this species can or this
species cuz I I guess like, you know,

3122
00:53:05,830 --> 00:53:05,840
species cuz I I guess like, you know,
 

3123
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,510
species cuz I I guess like, you know,
lions and tigers, are they different

3124
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:07,520
lions and tigers, are they different
 

3125
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,990
lions and tigers, are they different
species?

3126
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:10,000
species?
 

3127
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,470
species?
They're different species.

3128
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:10,480
They're different species.
 

3129
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,630
They're different species.
>> You know, so

3130
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:11,640
>> You know, so
 

3131
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,910
>> You know, so
so so, wouldn't that complicate things

3132
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:13,920
so so, wouldn't that complicate things
 

3133
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,710
so so, wouldn't that complicate things
with transitional fossils kind of saying

3134
00:53:15,710 --> 00:53:15,720
with transitional fossils kind of saying
 

3135
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:17,590
with transitional fossils kind of saying
like it's not as solid as people were

3136
00:53:17,590 --> 00:53:17,600
like it's not as solid as people were
 

3137
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,630
like it's not as solid as people were
saying?

3138
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:18,640
saying?
 

3139
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,830
saying?
Well, I mean, so that's a decent point.

3140
00:53:21,830 --> 00:53:21,840
Well, I mean, so that's a decent point.
 

3141
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,590
Well, I mean, so that's a decent point.
I I guess what you could say is that

3142
00:53:23,590 --> 00:53:23,600
I I guess what you could say is that
 

3143
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,350
I I guess what you could say is that
like in the future, if we saw

3144
00:53:26,350 --> 00:53:26,360
like in the future, if we saw
 

3145
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,710
like in the future, if we saw
a fossil of a liger or something

3146
00:53:29,710 --> 00:53:29,720
a fossil of a liger or something
 

3147
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,550
a fossil of a liger or something
like that, could that be confused as a

3148
00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:32,560
like that, could that be confused as a
 

3149
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,310
like that, could that be confused as a
step in evolution as opposed to a hybrid

3150
00:53:34,310 --> 00:53:34,320
step in evolution as opposed to a hybrid
 

3151
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,350
step in evolution as opposed to a hybrid
animal? That's perfectly fine. And and I

3152
00:53:36,350 --> 00:53:36,360
animal? That's perfectly fine. And and I
 

3153
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,190
animal? That's perfectly fine. And and I
mean, it's entirely possible that there

3154
00:53:38,190 --> 00:53:38,200
mean, it's entirely possible that there
 

3155
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,070
mean, it's entirely possible that there
exists a specimen that it has been

3156
00:53:40,070 --> 00:53:40,080
exists a specimen that it has been
 

3157
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,310
exists a specimen that it has been
misinterpreted. But the point is that a

3158
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:42,320
misinterpreted. But the point is that a
 

3159
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,990
misinterpreted. But the point is that a
hybrid animal is very, very different

3160
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:44,000
hybrid animal is very, very different
 

3161
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,430
hybrid animal is very, very different
from a population of organisms that is

3162
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:46,440
from a population of organisms that is
 

3163
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,390
from a population of organisms that is
evolving over time to create new forms

3164
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:50,400
evolving over time to create new forms
 

3165
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,150
evolving over time to create new forms
within the population, right? You you

3166
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:52,160
within the population, right? You you
 

3167
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,830
within the population, right? You you
can see a population evolving. And so,

3168
00:53:55,830 --> 00:53:55,840
can see a population evolving. And so,
 

3169
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,870
can see a population evolving. And so,
if we have one unique specimen, there's

3170
00:53:57,870 --> 00:53:57,880
if we have one unique specimen, there's
 

3171
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,510
if we have one unique specimen, there's
obviously a lot of room for doubt. But

3172
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:59,520
obviously a lot of room for doubt. But
 

3173
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,630
obviously a lot of room for doubt. But
when you have a transitional species

3174
00:54:01,630 --> 00:54:01,640
when you have a transitional species
 

3175
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,030
when you have a transitional species
where we have dozens and dozens and

3176
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:03,040
where we have dozens and dozens and
 

3177
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,070
where we have dozens and dozens and
dozens of specimens of of that

3178
00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:06,080
dozens of specimens of of that
 

3179
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,790
dozens of specimens of of that
transitional form, it kind of doesn't

3180
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:08,800
transitional form, it kind of doesn't
 

3181
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,230
transitional form, it kind of doesn't
leave any room for an interpretation

3182
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:10,240
leave any room for an interpretation
 

3183
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,950
leave any room for an interpretation
like that. Um yeah, like when you have

3184
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:12,960
like that. Um yeah, like when you have
 

3185
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,190
like that. Um yeah, like when you have
one specimen, you can totally

3186
00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:16,200
one specimen, you can totally
 

3187
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,670
one specimen, you can totally
have an academic argument about what the

3188
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:17,680
have an academic argument about what the
 

3189
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,990
have an academic argument about what the
hell that thing is, you know what I

3190
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:19,000
hell that thing is, you know what I
 

3191
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,590
hell that thing is, you know what I
mean, and where to place it. That that's

3192
00:54:20,590 --> 00:54:20,600
mean, and where to place it. That that's
 

3193
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,710
mean, and where to place it. That that's
fine. I mean, I I would agree with that.

3194
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:22,720
fine. I mean, I I would agree with that.
 

3195
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,110
fine. I mean, I I would agree with that.
But um in in terms of trying to cast

3196
00:54:25,110 --> 00:54:25,120
But um in in terms of trying to cast
 

3197
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,230
But um in in terms of trying to cast
doubt on the entire field of

3198
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:26,240
doubt on the entire field of
 

3199
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,550
doubt on the entire field of
paleontology as all being some kind of

3200
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:29,560
paleontology as all being some kind of
 

3201
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,670
paleontology as all being some kind of
hybrid form like that, it just it just

3202
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:31,680
hybrid form like that, it just it just
 

3203
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,910
hybrid form like that, it just it just
doesn't work, you know.

3204
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:34,920

 

3205
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,270

Okay, maybe I don't understand it well,

3206
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:37,280
Okay, maybe I don't understand it well,
 

3207
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,830
Okay, maybe I don't understand it well,
but um I guess But I I can clarify. I

3208
00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:39,840
but um I guess But I I can clarify. I
 

3209
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,030
but um I guess But I I can clarify. I
mean, what what I'm saying is that when

3210
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:41,040
mean, what what I'm saying is that when
 

3211
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,990
mean, what what I'm saying is that when
you have when you have a very firm uh

3212
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:44,000
you have when you have a very firm uh
 

3213
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,710
you have when you have a very firm uh
lineage of transitional forms that go

3214
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:46,720
lineage of transitional forms that go
 

3215
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,150
lineage of transitional forms that go
from what we know what we you know, what

3216
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:49,160
from what we know what we you know, what
 

3217
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,670
from what we know what we you know, what
we describe as a common ancestor between

3218
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:51,680
we describe as a common ancestor between
 

3219
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,310
we describe as a common ancestor between
this lineage and this lineage, and it's

3220
00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:53,320
this lineage and this lineage, and it's
 

3221
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,070
this lineage and this lineage, and it's
all just very gradually going in this

3222
00:54:55,070 --> 00:54:55,080
all just very gradually going in this
 

3223
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,950
all just very gradually going in this
direction, whether it's from something

3224
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:56,960
direction, whether it's from something
 

3225
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,990
direction, whether it's from something
more ancestrally ape-like to Homo

3226
00:54:58,990 --> 00:54:59,000
more ancestrally ape-like to Homo
 

3227
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,630
more ancestrally ape-like to Homo
sapiens or, you know, uh dinosaurs to

3228
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:02,640
sapiens or, you know, uh dinosaurs to
 

3229
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,550
sapiens or, you know, uh dinosaurs to
birds or you know, that very, very

3230
00:55:04,550 --> 00:55:04,560
birds or you know, that very, very
 

3231
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,270
birds or you know, that very, very
smooth gradient going from raptors to,

3232
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:08,280
smooth gradient going from raptors to,
 

3233
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,710
smooth gradient going from raptors to,
you know, more bird-like dinosaurs to an

3234
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:10,720
you know, more bird-like dinosaurs to an
 

3235
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,270
you know, more bird-like dinosaurs to an
ostrich or whatever it is. Right, this

3236
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:12,280
ostrich or whatever it is. Right, this
 

3237
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,270
ostrich or whatever it is. Right, this
is a very uh this is a continuum

3238
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:15,280
is a very uh this is a continuum
 

3239
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,910
is a very uh this is a continuum
of of gradual morphological change. It's

3240
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:17,920
of of gradual morphological change. It's
 

3241
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,670
of of gradual morphological change. It's
not like an isolated like, oh, that

3242
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:19,680
not like an isolated like, oh, that
 

3243
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,830
not like an isolated like, oh, that
looks like one thing is halfway between

3244
00:55:21,830 --> 00:55:21,840
looks like one thing is halfway between
 

3245
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,510
looks like one thing is halfway between
this and this, so

3246
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:23,520
this and this, so
 

3247
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,150
this and this, so
that's what all of evolution is. Right,

3248
00:55:25,150 --> 00:55:25,160
that's what all of evolution is. Right,
 

3249
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,230
that's what all of evolution is. Right,
it doesn't really work. We have so many

3250
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,240
it doesn't really work. We have so many
 

3251
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,510
it doesn't really work. We have so many
data points to work with, you know.

3252
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:29,520
data points to work with, you know.
 

3253
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,430
data points to work with, you know.
Wouldn't like any fossil that we

3254
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:31,440
Wouldn't like any fossil that we
 

3255
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,310
Wouldn't like any fossil that we
discover be related to some other fossil

3256
00:55:34,310 --> 00:55:34,320
discover be related to some other fossil
 

3257
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,910
discover be related to some other fossil
to where you could put it somewhere in

3258
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:35,920
to where you could put it somewhere in
 

3259
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,310
to where you could put it somewhere in
this line

3260
00:55:37,310 --> 00:55:37,320
this line
 

3261
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:37,950
this line
or this continuum?

3262
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:37,960
or this continuum?
 

3263
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:38,470
or this continuum?
>> Yeah,

3264
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:38,480
>> Yeah,
 

3265
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,310
>> Yeah,
I mean, all life is related to all other

3266
00:55:40,310 --> 00:55:40,320
I mean, all life is related to all other
 

3267
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,910
I mean, all life is related to all other
life. Uh usually almost I mean,

3268
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:43,920
life. Uh usually almost I mean,
 

3269
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,950
life. Uh usually almost I mean,
I want to be careful cuz I'm not a

3270
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:44,960
I want to be careful cuz I'm not a
 

3271
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,270
I want to be careful cuz I'm not a
paleontologist, but my understanding is

3272
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:47,280
paleontologist, but my understanding is
 

3273
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,910
paleontologist, but my understanding is
that almost every specimen that we find,

3274
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:49,920
that almost every specimen that we find,
 

3275
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,230
that almost every specimen that we find,
it's not too hard to place it in in a

3276
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:52,240
it's not too hard to place it in in a
 

3277
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,270
it's not too hard to place it in in a
lineage because we have so much data. Is

3278
00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:54,280
lineage because we have so much data. Is
 

3279
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,990
lineage because we have so much data. Is
it possible that there is one that I

3280
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:56,000
it possible that there is one that I
 

3281
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,750
it possible that there is one that I
never heard of that people are like,

3282
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:57,760
never heard of that people are like,
 

3283
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,910
never heard of that people are like,
what the heck is this? We don't know

3284
00:55:58,910 --> 00:55:58,920
what the heck is this? We don't know
 

3285
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,070
what the heck is this? We don't know
where to put it.

3286
00:56:00,070 --> 00:56:00,080
where to put it.
 

3287
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,030
where to put it.
Uh probably, yeah. I mean, yeah, I just

3288
00:56:02,030 --> 00:56:02,040
Uh probably, yeah. I mean, yeah, I just
 

3289
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,190
Uh probably, yeah. I mean, yeah, I just
don't work in the field, so I don't

3290
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:03,200
don't work in the field, so I don't
 

3291
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,030
don't work in the field, so I don't
know.

3292
00:56:04,030 --> 00:56:04,040
know.
 

3293
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,349
know.
Yeah, I don't know. I think there's more

3294
00:56:06,349 --> 00:56:06,359
Yeah, I don't know. I think there's more
 

3295
00:56:06,359 --> 00:56:08,030
Yeah, I don't know. I think there's more
questions. And then, I guess my final

3296
00:56:08,030 --> 00:56:08,040
questions. And then, I guess my final
 

3297
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,968
questions. And then, I guess my final
one is kind of related to these ideas.

3298
00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:11,978
one is kind of related to these ideas.
 

3299
00:56:11,978 --> 00:56:12,550
one is kind of related to these ideas.
>> [snorts]

3300
00:56:12,550 --> 00:56:12,560
>> [snorts]
 

3301
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,150
>> [snorts]
>> I maybe you already answered it, but

3302
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:14,160
>> I maybe you already answered it, but
 

3303
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,110
>> I maybe you already answered it, but
like the technical idea of

3304
00:56:17,110 --> 00:56:17,120
like the technical idea of
 

3305
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,390
like the technical idea of
animals not being able to breed with

3306
00:56:19,390 --> 00:56:19,400
animals not being able to breed with
 

3307
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,270
animals not being able to breed with
other animals isn't nec- or like and

3308
00:56:22,270 --> 00:56:22,280
other animals isn't nec- or like and
 

3309
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,470
other animals isn't nec- or like and
that being related to the species isn't

3310
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:24,480
that being related to the species isn't
 

3311
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,670
that being related to the species isn't
like hard rock set technically.

3312
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:27,680
like hard rock set technically.
 

3313
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,270
like hard rock set technically.
Yeah, no, that's absolutely true. Yeah.

3314
00:56:30,270 --> 00:56:30,280
Yeah, no, that's absolutely true. Yeah.
 

3315
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,230
Yeah, no, that's absolutely true. Yeah.
Okay. Cuz see here here's the thing,

3316
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:32,240
Okay. Cuz see here here's the thing,
 

3317
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,270
Okay. Cuz see here here's the thing,
nature doesn't care about our

3318
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:35,280
nature doesn't care about our
 

3319
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,790
nature doesn't care about our
categorizations. So, when we when we use

3320
00:56:38,790 --> 00:56:38,800
categorizations. So, when we when we use
 

3321
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,510
categorizations. So, when we when we use
terms like species, genus, family, like

3322
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:41,520
terms like species, genus, family, like
 

3323
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,270
terms like species, genus, family, like
this is all [\h__\h] that we invented and

3324
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:43,280
this is all [\h__\h] that we invented and
 

3325
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,150
this is all [\h__\h] that we invented and
imposed on the natural world. Nature

3326
00:56:45,150 --> 00:56:45,160
imposed on the natural world. Nature
 

3327
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,270
imposed on the natural world. Nature
just does what it does. So, when we say

3328
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:47,280
just does what it does. So, when we say
 

3329
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,150
just does what it does. So, when we say
that uh members of a of a

3330
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:50,160
that uh members of a of a
 

3331
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,670
that uh members of a of a
in order to qualify as members of a

3332
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:51,680
in order to qualify as members of a
 

3333
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,950
in order to qualify as members of a
species, they must be interfertile, and

3334
00:56:53,950 --> 00:56:53,960
species, they must be interfertile, and
 

3335
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,110
species, they must be interfertile, and
that organisms can't mate with other

3336
00:56:56,110 --> 00:56:56,120
that organisms can't mate with other
 

3337
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,430
that organisms can't mate with other
species to produce viable offspring,

3338
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:58,440
species to produce viable offspring,
 

3339
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,150
species to produce viable offspring,
there are counterexamples

3340
00:57:01,150 --> 00:57:01,160
there are counterexamples
 

3341
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,430
there are counterexamples
of that. Um and it's just nature giving

3342
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:03,440
of that. Um and it's just nature giving
 

3343
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,190
of that. Um and it's just nature giving
us the middle finger, just like I I defy

3344
00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:06,200
us the middle finger, just like I I defy
 

3345
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,150
us the middle finger, just like I I defy
your attempt to

3346
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:08,160
your attempt to
 

3347
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,349
your attempt to
to categorize me and put me in boxes. It

3348
00:57:10,349 --> 00:57:10,359
to categorize me and put me in boxes. It
 

3349
00:57:10,359 --> 00:57:12,110
to categorize me and put me in boxes. It
just kind of does what it does, but on

3350
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:12,120
just kind of does what it does, but on
 

3351
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,550
just kind of does what it does, but on
the whole, it it the the the biological

3352
00:57:14,550 --> 00:57:14,560
the whole, it it the the the biological
 

3353
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,110
the whole, it it the the the biological
definition of species

3354
00:57:16,110 --> 00:57:16,120
definition of species
 

3355
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,750
definition of species
uh does hold very well. It's just that

3356
00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:18,760
uh does hold very well. It's just that
 

3357
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,230
uh does hold very well. It's just that
yeah, there's it like I I don't remember

3358
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:20,240
yeah, there's it like I I don't remember
 

3359
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,430
yeah, there's it like I I don't remember
exactly what it is, but I think that

3360
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:21,440
exactly what it is, but I think that
 

3361
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,550
exactly what it is, but I think that
there are examples of members of

3362
00:57:23,550 --> 00:57:23,560
there are examples of members of
 

3363
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,230
there are examples of members of
different species indeed producing

3364
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:26,240
different species indeed producing
 

3365
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,390
different species indeed producing
viable offspring, not like a mule that's

3366
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:28,400
viable offspring, not like a mule that's
 

3367
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,790
viable offspring, not like a mule that's
uh sterile, but like continues to to

3368
00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:31,800
uh sterile, but like continues to to
 

3369
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,750
uh sterile, but like continues to to
produce reproduce. So, it's super

3370
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:33,760
produce reproduce. So, it's super
 

3371
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,630
produce reproduce. So, it's super
interesting, super fascinating, but in

3372
00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:35,640
interesting, super fascinating, but in
 

3373
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,750
interesting, super fascinating, but in
no way

3374
00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:36,760
no way
 

3375
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,349
no way
contradicts any evolutionary principle.

3376
00:57:40,349 --> 00:57:40,359
contradicts any evolutionary principle.
 

3377
00:57:40,359 --> 00:57:42,150
contradicts any evolutionary principle.
Um

3378
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:42,160
Um
 

3379
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,110
Um
I I agree. I think it does question the

3380
00:57:45,110 --> 00:57:45,120
I I agree. I think it does question the
 

3381
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,430
I I agree. I think it does question the
like

3382
00:57:46,430 --> 00:57:46,440
like
 

3383
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,790
like
some of the stuff about it, but I I

3384
00:57:48,790 --> 00:57:48,800
some of the stuff about it, but I I
 

3385
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,510
some of the stuff about it, but I I
don't think it

3386
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:50,520
don't think it
 

3387
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,270
don't think it
it pierces the core of it. Like the

3388
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:53,280
it pierces the core of it. Like the
 

3389
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,630
it pierces the core of it. Like the
trans- like what we talked about

3390
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:54,640
trans- like what we talked about
 

3391
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,150
trans- like what we talked about
transitional fossils and stuff like

3392
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:56,160
transitional fossils and stuff like
 

3393
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,430
transitional fossils and stuff like
that, but I what do you think of

3394
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:59,440
that, but I what do you think of
 

3395
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,150
that, but I what do you think of
I I mean,

3396
00:58:01,150 --> 00:58:01,160
I I mean,
 

3397
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,710
I I mean,
slightly un- slightly different species

3398
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:03,720
slightly un- slightly different species
 

3399
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,510
slightly un- slightly different species
producing viable offspring doesn't

3400
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:05,520
producing viable offspring doesn't
 

3401
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,910
producing viable offspring doesn't
really violate evolutionary principles.

3402
00:58:06,910 --> 00:58:06,920
really violate evolutionary principles.
 

3403
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,310
really violate evolutionary principles.
If anything, it's a way of accelerating

3404
00:58:09,310 --> 00:58:09,320
If anything, it's a way of accelerating
 

3405
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,550
If anything, it's a way of accelerating
morphological change, right? You have

3406
00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:10,560
morphological change, right? You have
 

3407
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,349
morphological change, right? You have
two slightly different things that are

3408
00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:12,359
two slightly different things that are
 

3409
00:58:12,359 --> 00:58:15,430
two slightly different things that are
then creating offspring.

3410
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:15,440
then creating offspring.
 

3411
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,030
then creating offspring.
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right. I didn't

3412
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:17,040
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right. I didn't
 

3413
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,150
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right. I didn't
think about

3414
00:58:19,150 --> 00:58:19,160
think about
 

3415
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,790
think about
that cuz then the hot the hybrids would

3416
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:22,800
that cuz then the hot the hybrids would
 

3417
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,750
that cuz then the hot the hybrids would
just be part of it. That's what you're

3418
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:25,760
just be part of it. That's what you're
 

3419
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,190
just be part of it. That's what you're
Right. Yeah, you you just have like the

3420
00:58:28,190 --> 00:58:28,200
Right. Yeah, you you just have like the
 

3421
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,270
Right. Yeah, you you just have like the
the point the the the driver like the

3422
00:58:30,270 --> 00:58:30,280
the point the the the driver like the
 

3423
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,270
the point the the the driver like the
reason sexual reproduction um was

3424
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:33,280
reason sexual reproduction um was
 

3425
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,790
reason sexual reproduction um was
selected for and exists in the animal

3426
00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:35,800
selected for and exists in the animal
 

3427
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,470
selected for and exists in the animal
kingdom is because of the enhanced

3428
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:37,480
kingdom is because of the enhanced
 

3429
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,190
kingdom is because of the enhanced
ability for genetic diversity. You have

3430
00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:40,200
ability for genetic diversity. You have
 

3431
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,349
ability for genetic diversity. You have
two different genomes as opposed to like

3432
00:58:42,349 --> 00:58:42,359
two different genomes as opposed to like
 

3433
00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:45,750
two different genomes as opposed to like
um bacteria just replicating with one

3434
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:45,760
um bacteria just replicating with one
 

3435
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,550
um bacteria just replicating with one
genome. You have two different genomes

3436
00:58:47,550 --> 00:58:47,560
genome. You have two different genomes
 

3437
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,590
genome. You have two different genomes
coming together, so you have more

3438
00:58:48,590 --> 00:58:48,600
coming together, so you have more
 

3439
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,349
coming together, so you have more
genetic variation. So, if you have two

3440
00:58:50,349 --> 00:58:50,359
genetic variation. So, if you have two
 

3441
00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:52,310
genetic variation. So, if you have two
individuals of two different species

3442
00:58:52,310 --> 00:58:52,320
individuals of two different species
 

3443
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,270
individuals of two different species
that are obviously very closely related,

3444
00:58:54,270 --> 00:58:54,280
that are obviously very closely related,
 

3445
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,070
that are obviously very closely related,
but two different species, that that's

3446
00:58:56,070 --> 00:58:56,080
but two different species, that that's
 

3447
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,910
but two different species, that that's
even more genetic variability to produce

3448
00:58:58,910 --> 00:58:58,920
even more genetic variability to produce
 

3449
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,510
even more genetic variability to produce
a

3450
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:59,520
a
 

3451
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,150
a
unique offspring that could have some

3452
00:59:01,150 --> 00:59:01,160
unique offspring that could have some
 

3453
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,470
unique offspring that could have some
survival advantage, you know.

3454
00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:03,480
survival advantage, you know.
 

3455
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,190
survival advantage, you know.
Yeah, I guess it would be like

3456
00:59:06,190 --> 00:59:06,200
Yeah, I guess it would be like
 

3457
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,510
Yeah, I guess it would be like
Yeah, okay. I guess my final thing would

3458
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:08,520
Yeah, okay. I guess my final thing would
 

3459
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,590
Yeah, okay. I guess my final thing would
be, do you feel like there any aspects

3460
00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:10,600
be, do you feel like there any aspects
 

3461
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,910
be, do you feel like there any aspects
of Lamarckian evolution that um are true

3462
00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:14,920
of Lamarckian evolution that um are true
 

3463
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,190
of Lamarckian evolution that um are true
or maybe that idea that we acquire

3464
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:17,200
or maybe that idea that we acquire
 

3465
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,390
or maybe that idea that we acquire
something and that gets passed on in

3466
00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:19,400
something and that gets passed on in
 

3467
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,470
something and that gets passed on in
some way?

3468
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:20,480
some way?
 

3469
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,070
some way?
Not really. I mean, epigenetic markers

3470
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:23,080
Not really. I mean, epigenetic markers
 

3471
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,590
Not really. I mean, epigenetic markers
being passed down one to two

3472
00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:25,600
being passed down one to two
 

3473
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,430
being passed down one to two
generations, you could make the argument

3474
00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:28,440
generations, you could make the argument
 

3475
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,990
generations, you could make the argument
vaguely represents Lamarckian evolution,

3476
00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:31,000
vaguely represents Lamarckian evolution,
 

3477
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,590
vaguely represents Lamarckian evolution,
but it's not really. I mean, what

3478
00:59:32,590 --> 00:59:32,600
but it's not really. I mean, what
 

3479
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,710
but it's not really. I mean, what
Lamarckian evolution was was that he

3480
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:34,720
Lamarckian evolution was was that he
 

3481
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,750
Lamarckian evolution was was that he
thought a giraffe is react a singular

3482
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:37,760
thought a giraffe is react a singular
 

3483
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,150
thought a giraffe is react a singular
giraffe is reacting to its environment

3484
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:40,160
giraffe is reacting to its environment
 

3485
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,190
giraffe is reacting to its environment
and going, you know what? I need a

3486
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:41,200
and going, you know what? I need a
 

3487
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,430
and going, you know what? I need a
longer neck. So, I'm just going to go

3488
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:42,440
longer neck. So, I'm just going to go
 

3489
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,670
longer neck. So, I'm just going to go
like this and make my neck longer on

3490
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:44,680
like this and make my neck longer on
 

3491
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,710
like this and make my neck longer on
purpose and then my offspring will have

3492
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:46,720
purpose and then my offspring will have
 

3493
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,590
purpose and then my offspring will have
a longer neck and they'll have their

3494
00:59:47,590 --> 00:59:47,600
a longer neck and they'll have their
 

3495
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,830
a longer neck and they'll have their
too. It's not that it's it's natural

3496
00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:49,840
too. It's not that it's it's natural
 

3497
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,630
too. It's not that it's it's natural
selection among a population of

3498
00:59:51,630 --> 00:59:51,640
selection among a population of
 

3499
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,390
selection among a population of
giraffes. The ones with the longest

3500
00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:53,400
giraffes. The ones with the longest
 

3501
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,070
giraffes. The ones with the longest
necks have the highest probability of

3502
00:59:56,070 --> 00:59:56,080
necks have the highest probability of
 

3503
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,870
necks have the highest probability of
eating and therefore surviving therefore

3504
00:59:57,870 --> 00:59:57,880
eating and therefore surviving therefore
 

3505
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,070
eating and therefore surviving therefore
reproducing. So, the genes for the

3506
01:00:00,070 --> 01:00:00,080
reproducing. So, the genes for the
 

3507
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,550
reproducing. So, the genes for the
longest neck proliferate. Um but yeah,

3508
01:00:03,550 --> 01:00:03,560
longest neck proliferate. Um but yeah,
 

3509
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,590
longest neck proliferate. Um but yeah,
this I cover this in my Dennis Noble

3510
01:00:05,590 --> 01:00:05,600
this I cover this in my Dennis Noble
 

3511
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,190
this I cover this in my Dennis Noble
video because this whole third way and

3512
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:08,200
video because this whole third way and
 

3513
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,550
video because this whole third way and
uh thing that that possibly that you've

3514
01:00:10,550 --> 01:00:10,560
uh thing that that possibly that you've
 

3515
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,070
uh thing that that possibly that you've
heard or at least some people that bring

3516
01:00:12,070 --> 01:00:12,080
heard or at least some people that bring
 

3517
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,430
heard or at least some people that bring
up Lamarck have heard of. It it kind of

3518
01:00:14,430 --> 01:00:14,440
up Lamarck have heard of. It it kind of
 

3519
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,070
up Lamarck have heard of. It it kind of
stems from this sort of bastardization

3520
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:17,080
stems from this sort of bastardization
 

3521
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,270
stems from this sort of bastardization
of what Lamarckian evolution is and

3522
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:19,280
of what Lamarckian evolution is and
 

3523
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,030
of what Lamarckian evolution is and
um and that whole thing. But but like

3524
01:00:22,030 --> 01:00:22,040
um and that whole thing. But but like
 

3525
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,550
um and that whole thing. But but like
the the one thing I will concede is that

3526
01:00:23,550 --> 01:00:23,560
the the one thing I will concede is that
 

3527
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,030
the the one thing I will concede is that
yeah, this sort of thing of like an

3528
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:25,040
yeah, this sort of thing of like an
 

3529
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,030
yeah, this sort of thing of like an
epigenetic marker can sometimes be

3530
01:00:28,030 --> 01:00:28,040
epigenetic marker can sometimes be
 

3531
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,190
epigenetic marker can sometimes be
passed down one or even two generations

3532
01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:30,200
passed down one or even two generations
 

3533
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,190
passed down one or even two generations
I think might be the most that we've

3534
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:31,200
I think might be the most that we've
 

3535
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,950
I think might be the most that we've
seen, but it just is not it doesn't hold

3536
01:00:33,950 --> 01:00:33,960
seen, but it just is not it doesn't hold
 

3537
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,510
seen, but it just is not it doesn't hold
a candle to

3538
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:35,520
a candle to
 

3539
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,430
a candle to
to to you know, the way the genome

3540
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:39,440
to to you know, the way the genome
 

3541
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,750
to to you know, the way the genome
mutates and and proliferates. So.

3542
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:42,760
mutates and and proliferates. So.
 

3543
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,230
mutates and and proliferates. So.
Austin, I appreciate you, man. I've got

3544
01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:45,240
Austin, I appreciate you, man. I've got
 

3545
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,830
Austin, I appreciate you, man. I've got
I'm going to get you off of here. I got

3546
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:46,840
I'm going to get you off of here. I got
 

3547
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,230
I'm going to get you off of here. I got
to take some super chats and

3548
01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:49,240
to take some super chats and
 

3549
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,550
to take some super chats and
I really do appreciate you calling.

3550
01:00:50,550 --> 01:00:50,560
I really do appreciate you calling.
 

3551
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,470
I really do appreciate you calling.
>> Thanks, man. Yeah, those were great

3552
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:51,480
>> Thanks, man. Yeah, those were great
 

3553
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,710
>> Thanks, man. Yeah, those were great
questions. Appreciate it. See you. Thank

3554
01:00:53,710 --> 01:00:53,720
questions. Appreciate it. See you. Thank
 

3555
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,510
questions. Appreciate it. See you. Thank
you.

3556
01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:54,520
you.
 

3557
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,790
you.
Awesome. Few super chats here. I think

3558
01:00:56,790 --> 01:00:56,800
Awesome. Few super chats here. I think
 

3559
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,790
Awesome. Few super chats here. I think
they're relevant.

3560
01:00:58,790 --> 01:00:58,800
they're relevant.
 

3561
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,190
they're relevant.
Victor Engelman, thank you so much.

3562
01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:00,200
Victor Engelman, thank you so much.
 

3563
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,750
Victor Engelman, thank you so much.
Says, how do creationists define and

3564
01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:01,760
Says, how do creationists define and
 

3565
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,230
Says, how do creationists define and
qualify or quantify, sorry, information?

3566
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:06,240
qualify or quantify, sorry, information?
 

3567
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,670
qualify or quantify, sorry, information?
Yeah, I mean, so creationists want to

3568
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:10,680
Yeah, I mean, so creationists want to
 

3569
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,750
Yeah, I mean, so creationists want to
and this is kind of what that other guy

3570
01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:12,760
and this is kind of what that other guy
 

3571
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,070
and this is kind of what that other guy
that other caller was doing is just

3572
01:01:15,070 --> 01:01:15,080
that other caller was doing is just
 

3573
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,870
that other caller was doing is just
about code and information. The wanting

3574
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:17,880
about code and information. The wanting
 

3575
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,710
about code and information. The wanting
it to be this like special amorphous

3576
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:20,720
it to be this like special amorphous
 

3577
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,430
it to be this like special amorphous
entity that needs to be bestowed upon a

3578
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:23,440
entity that needs to be bestowed upon a
 

3579
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,950
entity that needs to be bestowed upon a
like DNA the sequence of bases is the

3580
01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:25,960
like DNA the sequence of bases is the
 

3581
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,470
like DNA the sequence of bases is the
information whether it's DNA or RNA or

3582
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:28,480
information whether it's DNA or RNA or
 

3583
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,190
information whether it's DNA or RNA or
or a protein right the sequence of amino

3584
01:01:30,190 --> 01:01:30,200
or a protein right the sequence of amino
 

3585
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,790
or a protein right the sequence of amino
acids. That's the information. That's

3586
01:01:31,790 --> 01:01:31,800
acids. That's the information. That's
 

3587
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,870
acids. That's the information. That's
all there is to it. Um you know, that's

3588
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:34,880
all there is to it. Um you know, that's
 

3589
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,310
all there is to it. Um you know, that's
when you have a sequence of bases in a

3590
01:01:36,310 --> 01:01:36,320
when you have a sequence of bases in a
 

3591
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,550
when you have a sequence of bases in a
particular gene that informs what the

3592
01:01:38,550 --> 01:01:38,560
particular gene that informs what the
 

3593
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,390
particular gene that informs what the
mRNA will be which informs what the

3594
01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:40,400
mRNA will be which informs what the
 

3595
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,270
mRNA will be which informs what the
sequence of amino acids in the resulting

3596
01:01:42,270 --> 01:01:42,280
sequence of amino acids in the resulting
 

3597
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,830
sequence of amino acids in the resulting
protein will be.

3598
01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:43,840
protein will be.
 

3599
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,150
protein will be.
That's all it is, you know, you

3600
01:01:45,150 --> 01:01:45,160
That's all it is, you know, you
 

3601
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,510
That's all it is, you know, you
information you can have you can have a

3602
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:47,520
information you can have you can have a
 

3603
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,030
information you can have you can have a
a system of particles in a gas and each

3604
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:51,040
a system of particles in a gas and each
 

3605
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,310
a system of particles in a gas and each
one of them has a momentum and has a

3606
01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:53,320
one of them has a momentum and has a
 

3607
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,550
one of them has a momentum and has a
particular momentum. That's that's

3608
01:01:55,550 --> 01:01:55,560
particular momentum. That's that's
 

3609
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,390
particular momentum. That's that's
information, right? It's just a

3610
01:01:57,390 --> 01:01:57,400
information, right? It's just a
 

3611
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,430
information, right? It's just a
our way of describing

3612
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:59,440
our way of describing
 

3613
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,030
our way of describing
properties of a system that that are of

3614
01:02:01,030 --> 01:02:01,040
properties of a system that that are of
 

3615
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,550
properties of a system that that are of
interest to us. That's that's really it.

3616
01:02:04,550 --> 01:02:04,560
interest to us. That's that's really it.
 

3617
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,910
interest to us. That's that's really it.
And Victor I think asked the same

3618
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:05,920
And Victor I think asked the same
 

3619
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,230
And Victor I think asked the same
question twice. Thank you for the super

3620
01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:07,240
question twice. Thank you for the super
 

3621
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,790
question twice. Thank you for the super
chat. I appreciate it. How do you define

3622
01:02:08,790 --> 01:02:08,800
chat. I appreciate it. How do you define
 

3623
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,110
chat. I appreciate it. How do you define
and quant

3624
01:02:10,110 --> 01:02:10,120
and quant
 

3625
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,910
and quant
specifically addressing the same thing.

3626
01:02:12,910 --> 01:02:12,920
specifically addressing the same thing.
 

3627
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,510
specifically addressing the same thing.
Um

3628
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:13,520
Um
 

3629
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,510
Um
We got another one here. Modern killer

3630
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:15,520
We got another one here. Modern killer
 

3631
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,150
We got another one here. Modern killer
88 says, premier [\h__\h] right there.

3632
01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:19,160
88 says, premier [\h__\h] right there.
 

3633
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,470
88 says, premier [\h__\h] right there.
Feel bad for his son. Hopefully the guy

3634
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:22,480
Feel bad for his son. Hopefully the guy
 

3635
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,668
Feel bad for his son. Hopefully the guy
who called and had his son on his lap.

3636
01:02:24,668 --> 01:02:24,678
who called and had his son on his lap.
 

3637
01:02:24,678 --> 01:02:24,990
who called and had his son on his lap.
>> [laughter]

3638
01:02:24,990 --> 01:02:25,000
>> [laughter]
 

3639
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,270
>> [laughter]
>> Oh, that's what they're talking about.

3640
01:02:26,270 --> 01:02:26,280
>> Oh, that's what they're talking about.
 

3641
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,870
>> Oh, that's what they're talking about.
Oh, okay. I'm thinking who?

3642
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:28,880
Oh, okay. I'm thinking who?
 

3643
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,030
Oh, okay. I'm thinking who?
So, they're talking about Metaphysics

3644
01:02:30,030 --> 01:02:30,040
So, they're talking about Metaphysics
 

3645
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,790
So, they're talking about Metaphysics
Mike which is backstage. We've been

3646
01:02:31,790 --> 01:02:31,800
Mike which is backstage. We've been
 

3647
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,590
Mike which is backstage. We've been
talking in the private chat in the back

3648
01:02:33,590 --> 01:02:33,600
talking in the private chat in the back
 

3649
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,550
talking in the private chat in the back
here.

3650
01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:34,560
here.
 

3651
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,710
here.
Um

3652
01:02:35,710 --> 01:02:35,720
Um
 

3653
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,110
Um
But yeah, I mean, I think if he was just

3654
01:02:37,110 --> 01:02:37,120
But yeah, I mean, I think if he was just
 

3655
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,470
But yeah, I mean, I think if he was just
a little more calm down like even Jim

3656
01:02:39,470 --> 01:02:39,480
a little more calm down like even Jim
 

3657
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,630
a little more calm down like even Jim
Bob whom you totally like can't even see

3658
01:02:43,630 --> 01:02:43,640
Bob whom you totally like can't even see
 

3659
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,590
Bob whom you totally like can't even see
on the same page. At least he feigned

3660
01:02:47,590 --> 01:02:47,600
on the same page. At least he feigned
 

3661
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,470
on the same page. At least he feigned
politeness in order to try to like last

3662
01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:50,480
politeness in order to try to like last
 

3663
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,430
politeness in order to try to like last
long enough to get his little guy Did

3664
01:02:52,430 --> 01:02:52,440
long enough to get his little guy Did
 

3665
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,070
long enough to get his little guy Did
you know that he that he clipped that

3666
01:02:54,070 --> 01:02:54,080
you know that he that he clipped that
 

3667
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,070
you know that he that he clipped that
part where he was desperately fishing

3668
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:56,080
part where he was desperately fishing
 

3669
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,390
part where he was desperately fishing
for me to say, my brain has no purpose

3670
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:58,400
for me to say, my brain has no purpose
 

3671
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,870
for me to say, my brain has no purpose
and I refused to say it because I knew

3672
01:03:00,870 --> 01:03:00,880
and I refused to say it because I knew
 

3673
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,190
and I refused to say it because I knew
that that's what he was fishing for. I

3674
01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:02,200
that that's what he was fishing for. I
 

3675
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,790
that that's what he was fishing for. I
just explained the science that he was

3676
01:03:03,790 --> 01:03:03,800
just explained the science that he was
 

3677
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,830
just explained the science that he was
denying to him. He still clipped that

3678
01:03:05,830 --> 01:03:05,840
denying to him. He still clipped that
 

3679
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,510
denying to him. He still clipped that
90-second bit and put it on his channel

3680
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:08,520
90-second bit and put it on his channel
 

3681
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,030
90-second bit and put it on his channel
with me with a big nose and like, haha,

3682
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:11,040
with me with a big nose and like, haha,
 

3683
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,950
with me with a big nose and like, haha,
I got Dave to say this thing that I

3684
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:12,960
I got Dave to say this thing that I
 

3685
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,510
I got Dave to say this thing that I
didn't say and his idiot fans don't even

3686
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:15,520
didn't say and his idiot fans don't even
 

3687
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,510
didn't say and his idiot fans don't even
watch the 90-second clip to see that I

3688
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:17,520
watch the 90-second clip to see that I
 

3689
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,470
watch the 90-second clip to see that I
didn't say what he put in a speech

3690
01:03:19,470 --> 01:03:19,480
didn't say what he put in a speech
 

3691
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,950
didn't say what he put in a speech
bubble on the thumbnail. It's

3692
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:20,960
bubble on the thumbnail. It's
 

3693
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,030
bubble on the thumbnail. It's
unbelievable.

3694
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:22,040
unbelievable.
 

3695
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,910
unbelievable.
>> on he went on Twitter and he actually

3696
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:23,920
>> on he went on Twitter and he actually
 

3697
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,590
>> on he went on Twitter and he actually
was using it as kind of like a talking

3698
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:25,600
was using it as kind of like a talking
 

3699
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,310
was using it as kind of like a talking
point.

3700
01:03:26,310 --> 01:03:26,320
point.
 

3701
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,030
point.
>> Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, I

3702
01:03:28,030 --> 01:03:28,040
>> Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, I
 

3703
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,750
>> Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, I
didn't see that clip or anything, but

3704
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:29,760
didn't see that clip or anything, but
 

3705
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,510
didn't see that clip or anything, but
Yeah, yeah. A little earlier you were

3706
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:31,520
Yeah, yeah. A little earlier you were
 

3707
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,910
Yeah, yeah. A little earlier you were
explaining like it has utility. Like

3708
01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:34,920
explaining like it has utility. Like
 

3709
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,630
explaining like it has utility. Like
it's useful.

3710
01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:35,640
it's useful.
 

3711
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,150
it's useful.
>> use it for thinking, but it's not an

3712
01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:37,160
>> use it for thinking, but it's not an
 

3713
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,030
>> use it for thinking, but it's not an
inherent purpose bestowed by a divine

3714
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:39,040
inherent purpose bestowed by a divine
 

3715
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,510
inherent purpose bestowed by a divine
creator, right? It's just like they need

3716
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:41,520
creator, right? It's just like they need
 

3717
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,230
creator, right? It's just like they need
like that cult like they just want a

3718
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:44,240
like that cult like they just want a
 

3719
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,870
like that cult like they just want a
little gotcha and when they can't even

3720
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:46,880
little gotcha and when they can't even
 

3721
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,030
little gotcha and when they can't even
get that in a 30-minute exchange, he

3722
01:03:49,030 --> 01:03:49,040
get that in a 30-minute exchange, he
 

3723
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,310
get that in a 30-minute exchange, he
can't get a 1-minute gotcha. He just

3724
01:03:51,310 --> 01:03:51,320
can't get a 1-minute gotcha. He just
 

3725
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,670
can't get a 1-minute gotcha. He just
clips it and pretends it is anyway and

3726
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:53,680
clips it and pretends it is anyway and
 

3727
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,590
clips it and pretends it is anyway and
tells his fans that it is one and they

3728
01:03:55,590 --> 01:03:55,600
tells his fans that it is one and they
 

3729
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,830
tells his fans that it is one and they
don't even watch a 1-minute

3730
01:03:57,830 --> 01:03:57,840
don't even watch a 1-minute
 

3731
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,110
don't even watch a 1-minute
to see what actually happened. It's

3732
01:04:00,110 --> 01:04:00,120
to see what actually happened. It's
 

3733
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,349
to see what actually happened. It's
unbelievable. It's so pathetic.

3734
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:03,359
unbelievable. It's so pathetic.
 

3735
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:06,790
unbelievable. It's so pathetic.
The next super chat, Daniel Daylanoche.

3736
01:04:06,790 --> 01:04:06,800
The next super chat, Daniel Daylanoche.
 

3737
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,030
The next super chat, Daniel Daylanoche.
Thank you so much for the super chat.

3738
01:04:08,030 --> 01:04:08,040
Thank you so much for the super chat.
 

3739
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,590
Thank you so much for the super chat.
Creationists love to equivocate between

3740
01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:10,600
Creationists love to equivocate between
 

3741
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,270
Creationists love to equivocate between
actual codes and the genetic code which

3742
01:04:14,270 --> 01:04:14,280
actual codes and the genetic code which
 

3743
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,110
actual codes and the genetic code which
is just a word we use as a metaphor.

3744
01:04:17,110 --> 01:04:17,120
is just a word we use as a metaphor.
 

3745
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,390
is just a word we use as a metaphor.
Same with information. Yeah, that's

3746
01:04:19,390 --> 01:04:19,400
Same with information. Yeah, that's
 

3747
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,790
Same with information. Yeah, that's
absolutely correct.

3748
01:04:21,790 --> 01:04:21,800
absolutely correct.
 

3749
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,230
absolutely correct.
Thank you so much. Appreciate that.

3750
01:04:23,230 --> 01:04:23,240
Thank you so much. Appreciate that.
 

3751
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,310
Thank you so much. Appreciate that.
Yeah,

3752
01:04:24,310 --> 01:04:24,320
Yeah,
 

3753
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,630
Yeah,
um if there are other creationists that

3754
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:26,640
um if there are other creationists that
 

3755
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,030
um if there are other creationists that
are out there who want to challenge

3756
01:04:30,030 --> 01:04:30,040
are out there who want to challenge
 

3757
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,470
are out there who want to challenge
Dave, want to prove creationism,

3758
01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:33,480
Dave, want to prove creationism,
 

3759
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,390
Dave, want to prove creationism,
uh please call in. I pinned it in the

3760
01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:35,400
uh please call in. I pinned it in the
 

3761
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,830
uh please call in. I pinned it in the
chat. So, Let's we're going to cap it

3762
01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:37,840
chat. So, Let's we're going to cap it
 

3763
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,870
chat. So, Let's we're going to cap it
around 90, right? Or what another 10

3764
01:04:39,870 --> 01:04:39,880
around 90, right? Or what another 10
 

3765
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,270
around 90, right? Or what another 10
minutes or something or

3766
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:41,280
minutes or something or
 

3767
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,150
minutes or something or
where how long have we got?

3768
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:42,160
where how long have we got?
 

3769
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,590
where how long have we got?
>> Uh we got like 20 minutes, yeah. Max.

3770
01:04:44,590 --> 01:04:44,600
>> Uh we got like 20 minutes, yeah. Max.
 

3771
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,510
>> Uh we got like 20 minutes, yeah. Max.
It's 1 hour and 7 minutes in. We got

3772
01:04:46,510 --> 01:04:46,520
It's 1 hour and 7 minutes in. We got
 

3773
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,150
It's 1 hour and 7 minutes in. We got
like 20 more minutes, so. I'm just

3774
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:48,160
like 20 more minutes, so. I'm just
 

3775
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,790
like 20 more minutes, so. I'm just
trying to get somebody to call in. I

3776
01:04:49,790 --> 01:04:49,800
trying to get somebody to call in. I
 

3777
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,950
trying to get somebody to call in. I
know Metaphysics Mike, I see you back

3778
01:04:51,950 --> 01:04:51,960
know Metaphysics Mike, I see you back
 

3779
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,670
know Metaphysics Mike, I see you back
there, but we we've been chit-chatting

3780
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:53,680
there, but we we've been chit-chatting
 

3781
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,349
there, but we we've been chit-chatting
in the private already. I'm like Yeah,

3782
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:55,359
in the private already. I'm like Yeah,
 

3783
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:56,629
in the private already. I'm like Yeah,
you you had your shot, dude.

3784
01:04:56,629 --> 01:04:56,639
you you had your shot, dude.
 

3785
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:57,349
you you had your shot, dude.
>> [laughter]

3786
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:57,359
>> [laughter]
 

3787
01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:59,710
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah. Matt doesn't have a

3788
01:04:59,710 --> 01:04:59,720
>> Yeah. Matt doesn't have a
 

3789
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,430
>> Yeah. Matt doesn't have a
a camera. There's another guy Matt in

3790
01:05:01,430 --> 01:05:01,440
a camera. There's another guy Matt in
 

3791
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,230
a camera. There's another guy Matt in
the back, but there's no camera and

3792
01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:03,240
the back, but there's no camera and
 

3793
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,430
the back, but there's no camera and
they're not a creationist. So, we're

3794
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:04,440
they're not a creationist. So, we're
 

3795
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,710
they're not a creationist. So, we're
taking creationist calls. We may have to

3796
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:06,720
taking creationist calls. We may have to
 

3797
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,030
taking creationist calls. We may have to
just hang out you and me in the

3798
01:05:08,030 --> 01:05:08,040
just hang out you and me in the
 

3799
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,430
just hang out you and me in the
meantime.

3800
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:09,440
meantime.
 

3801
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,870
meantime.
Hopefully we do get a creationist to

3802
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:10,880
Hopefully we do get a creationist to
 

3803
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,110
Hopefully we do get a creationist to
call in and go from there, but

3804
01:05:14,110 --> 01:05:14,120
call in and go from there, but
 

3805
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:14,910
call in and go from there, but
Another [clears throat] super chat.

3806
01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:14,920
Another [clears throat] super chat.
 

3807
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,710
Another [clears throat] super chat.
Would it be considered creationism to

3808
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:16,720
Would it be considered creationism to
 

3809
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,390
Would it be considered creationism to
not believe in an all-powerful God, but

3810
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:18,400
not believe in an all-powerful God, but
 

3811
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,390
not believe in an all-powerful God, but
believe in old advanced alien species

3812
01:05:21,390 --> 01:05:21,400
believe in old advanced alien species
 

3813
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,190
believe in old advanced alien species
could have seeded life on the planet?

3814
01:05:24,190 --> 01:05:24,200
could have seeded life on the planet?
 

3815
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,270
could have seeded life on the planet?
I mean, no, not not traditionally. That

3816
01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:26,280
I mean, no, not not traditionally. That
 

3817
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,035
I mean, no, not not traditionally. That
would be some version of panspermia. Uh

3818
01:05:30,035 --> 01:05:30,045
would be some version of panspermia. Uh
 

3819
01:05:30,045 --> 01:05:30,390
would be some version of panspermia. Uh
>> [clears throat and cough]

3820
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:30,400
>> [clears throat and cough]
 

3821
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,670
>> [clears throat and cough]
>> Or or perhaps not even panspermia, but

3822
01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:32,680
>> Or or perhaps not even panspermia, but
 

3823
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:33,390
>> Or or perhaps not even panspermia, but
um

3824
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:33,400
um
 

3825
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,270
um
um yeah, that that's like your um

3826
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:37,280
um yeah, that that's like your um
 

3827
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,205
um yeah, that that's like your um
uh Prometheus uh

3828
01:05:39,205 --> 01:05:39,215
uh Prometheus uh
 

3829
01:05:39,215 --> 01:05:39,470
uh Prometheus uh
>> [laughter]

3830
01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:39,480
>> [laughter]
 

3831
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,470
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah. plot line

3832
01:05:41,470 --> 01:05:41,480
>> Yeah. plot line
 

3833
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,310
>> Yeah. plot line
which is

3834
01:05:42,310 --> 01:05:42,320
which is
 

3835
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,790
which is
>> though. Cool movie, but you know. Cool

3836
01:05:43,790 --> 01:05:43,800
>> though. Cool movie, but you know. Cool
 

3837
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,630
>> though. Cool movie, but you know. Cool
movie, yeah, not the best of the Alien

3838
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:45,640
movie, yeah, not the best of the Alien
 

3839
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,750
movie, yeah, not the best of the Alien
franchise, but um

3840
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:47,760
franchise, but um
 

3841
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,830
franchise, but um
they're all pretty cool at least.

3842
01:05:49,830 --> 01:05:49,840
they're all pretty cool at least.
 

3843
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,510
they're all pretty cool at least.
Um

3844
01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:50,520
Um
 

3845
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,190
Um
But yeah, I mean, and also honestly the

3846
01:05:52,190 --> 01:05:52,200
But yeah, I mean, and also honestly the
 

3847
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,990
But yeah, I mean, and also honestly the
plot of 2001 A Space Odyssey which is my

3848
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:54,000
plot of 2001 A Space Odyssey which is my
 

3849
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,910
plot of 2001 A Space Odyssey which is my
favorite movie of all time.

3850
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:55,920
favorite movie of all time.
 

3851
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,710
favorite movie of all time.
I would say done more masterfully and

3852
01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:57,720
I would say done more masterfully and
 

3853
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,590
I would say done more masterfully and
subtly in in 2001. Um but yeah, it's not

3854
01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:01,600
subtly in in 2001. Um but yeah, it's not
 

3855
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,430
subtly in in 2001. Um but yeah, it's not
a it's not an anti-scientific premise.

3856
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:03,440
a it's not an anti-scientific premise.
 

3857
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,190
a it's not an anti-scientific premise.
It's a it's science fiction, right? It

3858
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:05,200
It's a it's science fiction, right? It
 

3859
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,790
It's a it's science fiction, right? It
is science fiction is something that is

3860
01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:06,800
is science fiction is something that is
 

3861
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,230
is science fiction is something that is
scientifically plausible that didn't

3862
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:08,240
scientifically plausible that didn't
 

3863
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,349
scientifically plausible that didn't
happen.

3864
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:09,359
happen.
 

3865
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:11,910
happen.
You know what I mean? Um So, yeah, it's

3866
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:11,920
You know what I mean? Um So, yeah, it's
 

3867
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,070
You know what I mean? Um So, yeah, it's
my favorite movie ever and in that movie

3868
01:06:14,070 --> 01:06:14,080
my favorite movie ever and in that movie
 

3869
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,430
my favorite movie ever and in that movie
aliens you know, facilitated uh

3870
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:17,440
aliens you know, facilitated uh
 

3871
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,270
aliens you know, facilitated uh
uh the evolution of life on Earth. Um

3872
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:20,280
uh the evolution of life on Earth. Um
 

3873
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,230
uh the evolution of life on Earth. Um
Which is super cool idea, but it's a

3874
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:22,240
Which is super cool idea, but it's a
 

3875
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,090
Which is super cool idea, but it's a
it's a movie.

3876
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:23,100
it's a movie.
 

3877
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:23,430
it's a movie.
>> [laughter]

3878
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:23,440
>> [laughter]
 

3879
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,310
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah, it's fun. But the answer is I

3880
01:06:25,310 --> 01:06:25,320
>> Yeah, it's fun. But the answer is I
 

3881
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,790
>> Yeah, it's fun. But the answer is I
don't think that that would be

3882
01:06:26,790 --> 01:06:26,800
don't think that that would be
 

3883
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,070
don't think that that would be
categorized as creationism. I think

3884
01:06:29,070 --> 01:06:29,080
categorized as creationism. I think
 

3885
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,310
categorized as creationism. I think
creationism we're talking about a deity

3886
01:06:31,310 --> 01:06:31,320
creationism we're talking about a deity
 

3887
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,349
creationism we're talking about a deity
specifically creating ab initio.

3888
01:06:34,349 --> 01:06:34,359
specifically creating ab initio.
 

3889
01:06:34,359 --> 01:06:36,190
specifically creating ab initio.
Um

3890
01:06:36,190 --> 01:06:36,200
Um
 

3891
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,270
Um
But yeah.

3892
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:37,280
But yeah.
 

3893
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,790
But yeah.
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that.

3894
01:06:38,790 --> 01:06:38,800
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that.
 

3895
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,070
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that.
MJ, I really appreciate that. So,

3896
01:06:42,070 --> 01:06:42,080
MJ, I really appreciate that. So,
 

3897
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,270
MJ, I really appreciate that. So,
in the back

3898
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:43,280
in the back
 

3899
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,870
in the back
Matt, you don't have a camera. They're

3900
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:44,880
Matt, you don't have a camera. They're
 

3901
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,190
Matt, you don't have a camera. They're
asking questions, but Metaphysics Mike

3902
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:47,200
asking questions, but Metaphysics Mike
 

3903
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,110
asking questions, but Metaphysics Mike
says, you have my word I'll be chill.

3904
01:06:50,110 --> 01:06:50,120
says, you have my word I'll be chill.
 

3905
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,110
says, you have my word I'll be chill.
Nah.

3906
01:06:51,110 --> 01:06:51,120
Nah.
 

3907
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,710
Nah.
Nope. All right. Metaphysics

3908
01:06:53,710 --> 01:06:53,720
Nope. All right. Metaphysics
 

3909
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,750
Nope. All right. Metaphysics
>> Work on that anger management, dude.

3910
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:55,760
>> Work on that anger management, dude.
 

3911
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,110
>> Work on that anger management, dude.
See you, man.

3912
01:06:57,110 --> 01:06:57,120
See you, man.
 

3913
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,270
See you, man.
All right.

3914
01:06:58,270 --> 01:06:58,280
All right.
 

3915
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,870
All right.
Um yeah, look, I I don't know how to you

3916
01:07:01,870 --> 01:07:01,880
Um yeah, look, I I don't know how to you
 

3917
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,990
Um yeah, look, I I don't know how to you
know,

3918
01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:03,000
know,
 

3919
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,870
know,
help people. I mean, look, debates

3920
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:04,880
help people. I mean, look, debates
 

3921
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,349
help people. I mean, look, debates
interest I want to be I want people to

3922
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:07,359
interest I want to be I want people to
 

3923
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:08,390
interest I want to be I want people to
be able to come in here and challenge,

3924
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:08,400
be able to come in here and challenge,
 

3925
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,430
be able to come in here and challenge,
but I do want you to be able to speak

3926
01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:11,440
but I do want you to be able to speak
 

3927
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,670
but I do want you to be able to speak
and hear each other, you know what I'm

3928
01:07:12,670 --> 01:07:12,680
and hear each other, you know what I'm
 

3929
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,750
and hear each other, you know what I'm
saying?

3930
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:13,760
saying?
 

3931
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,590
saying?
So, Yeah.

3932
01:07:15,590 --> 01:07:15,600
So, Yeah.
 

3933
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,150
So, Yeah.
and let each other speak. Oh, I know who

3934
01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:17,160
and let each other speak. Oh, I know who
 

3935
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,349
and let each other speak. Oh, I know who
this is. All right, we got a creationist

3936
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:19,359
this is. All right, we got a creationist
 

3937
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:20,910
this is. All right, we got a creationist
in the back. Toronto Bible Study, we

3938
01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:20,920
in the back. Toronto Bible Study, we
 

3939
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,630
in the back. Toronto Bible Study, we
have literally 19 minutes before I have

3940
01:07:23,630 --> 01:07:23,640
have literally 19 minutes before I have
 

3941
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,070
have literally 19 minutes before I have
to say bye to Professor Dave. So, you

3942
01:07:27,070 --> 01:07:27,080
to say bye to Professor Dave. So, you
 

3943
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,270
to say bye to Professor Dave. So, you
are a creationist, correct?

3944
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:29,280
are a creationist, correct?
 

3945
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,870
are a creationist, correct?
Uh yes.

3946
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:30,880
Uh yes.
 

3947
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,990
Uh yes.
Okay. What's your what's your problem

3948
01:07:32,990 --> 01:07:33,000
Okay. What's your what's your problem
 

3949
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,910
Okay. What's your what's your problem
with what Dave uh

3950
01:07:34,910 --> 01:07:34,920
with what Dave uh
 

3951
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,110
with what Dave uh
what Dave teaches?

3952
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:37,120
what Dave teaches?
 

3953
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,390
what Dave teaches?
Well,

3954
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:38,400
Well,
 

3955
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,870
Well,
I would just say that I mean, I do think

3956
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:40,880
I would just say that I mean, I do think
 

3957
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:41,870
I would just say that I mean, I do think
uh this

3958
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:41,880
uh this
 

3959
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,710
uh this
there's strong arguments strong

3960
01:07:43,710 --> 01:07:43,720
there's strong arguments strong
 

3961
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,670
there's strong arguments strong
cumulative case for um

3962
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:46,680
cumulative case for um
 

3963
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,310
cumulative case for um
old Earth and evolution, but I don't I

3964
01:07:49,310 --> 01:07:49,320
old Earth and evolution, but I don't I
 

3965
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,190
old Earth and evolution, but I don't I
do still doubt them.

3966
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:51,200
do still doubt them.
 

3967
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,310
do still doubt them.
I think I think I think my problem with

3968
01:07:53,310 --> 01:07:53,320
I think I think I think my problem with
 

3969
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,430
I think I think I think my problem with
um

3970
01:07:54,430 --> 01:07:54,440
um
 

3971
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,756
um
people like you, Dave, is that

3972
01:07:56,756 --> 01:07:56,766
people like you, Dave, is that
 

3973
01:07:56,766 --> 01:07:57,550
people like you, Dave, is that
>> [snorts]

3974
01:07:57,550 --> 01:07:57,560
>> [snorts]
 

3975
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,190
>> [snorts]
>> you seem a little bit too certain about

3976
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:59,200
>> you seem a little bit too certain about
 

3977
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,670
>> you seem a little bit too certain about
it and also also I would also say that

3978
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:01,680
it and also also I would also say that
 

3979
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,990
it and also also I would also say that
it's odd the way they try to deny things

3980
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:04,000
it's odd the way they try to deny things
 

3981
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,230
it's odd the way they try to deny things
like or they'll start to say, well,

3982
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:06,240
like or they'll start to say, well,
 

3983
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,470
like or they'll start to say, well,
these evidences are strong therefore no

3984
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:08,480
these evidences are strong therefore no
 

3985
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,349
these evidences are strong therefore no
God or therefore no design possibility

3986
01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:12,359
God or therefore no design possibility
 

3987
01:08:12,359 --> 01:08:13,430
God or therefore no design possibility
or you know what I mean? That's what I

3988
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:13,440
or you know what I mean? That's what I
 

3989
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,230
or you know what I mean? That's what I
find No, I mean, it's certainly not no

3990
01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:15,240
find No, I mean, it's certainly not no
 

3991
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,430
find No, I mean, it's certainly not no
God. Science does not disprove God and

3992
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:17,440
God. Science does not disprove God and
 

3993
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:19,349
God. Science does not disprove God and
I've never said that. So, I mean, I feel

3994
01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:19,359
I've never said that. So, I mean, I feel
 

3995
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:20,630
I've never said that. So, I mean, I feel
like you're mischaracterizing me. I

3996
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:20,640
like you're mischaracterizing me. I
 

3997
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,910
like you're mischaracterizing me. I
mean, you cannot find a quote of me

3998
01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:22,920
mean, you cannot find a quote of me
 

3999
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,789
mean, you cannot find a quote of me
saying anything like that. But more

4000
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:24,799
saying anything like that. But more
 

4001
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:27,470
saying anything like that. But more
importantly what I want to say is that

4002
01:08:27,470 --> 01:08:27,480
importantly what I want to say is that
 

4003
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:30,270
importantly what I want to say is that
when I make content debunking

4004
01:08:30,270 --> 01:08:30,280
when I make content debunking
 

4005
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,829
when I make content debunking
creationist propaganda, it it's not to

4006
01:08:32,829 --> 01:08:32,839
creationist propaganda, it it's not to
 

4007
01:08:32,839 --> 01:08:35,670
creationist propaganda, it it's not to
mock the idea of religiosity or belief

4008
01:08:35,670 --> 01:08:35,680
mock the idea of religiosity or belief
 

4009
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,950
mock the idea of religiosity or belief
in God or anything. These these are very

4010
01:08:37,950 --> 01:08:37,960
in God or anything. These these are very
 

4011
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,789
in God or anything. These these are very
coordinated propaganda campaigns, right?

4012
01:08:39,789 --> 01:08:39,799
coordinated propaganda campaigns, right?
 

4013
01:08:39,799 --> 01:08:41,670
coordinated propaganda campaigns, right?
When I when I debunk

4014
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:41,680
When I when I debunk
 

4015
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,550
When I when I debunk
Discovery Institute, they very

4016
01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:43,560
Discovery Institute, they very
 

4017
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,230
Discovery Institute, they very
deliberately and deceptively lie about

4018
01:08:46,230 --> 01:08:46,240
deliberately and deceptively lie about
 

4019
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,749
deliberately and deceptively lie about
scientific research to the point where

4020
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:47,759
scientific research to the point where
 

4021
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:50,510
scientific research to the point where
they doctor data tables and misrepresent

4022
01:08:50,510 --> 01:08:50,520
they doctor data tables and misrepresent
 

4023
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,390
they doctor data tables and misrepresent
they lie like I have to get quotes from

4024
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:52,400
they lie like I have to get quotes from
 

4025
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,150
they lie like I have to get quotes from
the researcher saying, yeah, they're

4026
01:08:54,150 --> 01:08:54,160
the researcher saying, yeah, they're
 

4027
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,030
the researcher saying, yeah, they're
lying about my research. Like it's

4028
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:56,040
lying about my research. Like it's
 

4029
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,749
lying about my research. Like it's
really deceptive

4030
01:08:58,749 --> 01:08:58,759
really deceptive
 

4031
01:08:58,759 --> 01:09:01,550
really deceptive
you know, toxic rhetoric. So, it's not

4032
01:09:01,550 --> 01:09:01,560
you know, toxic rhetoric. So, it's not
 

4033
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,230
you know, toxic rhetoric. So, it's not
to shame believers, right? I'm trying to

4034
01:09:05,230 --> 01:09:05,240
to shame believers, right? I'm trying to
 

4035
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,749
to shame believers, right? I'm trying to
expose this their sources of information

4036
01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:07,759
expose this their sources of information
 

4037
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:09,070
expose this their sources of information
so that they hopefully can come to the

4038
01:09:09,070 --> 01:09:09,080
so that they hopefully can come to the
 

4039
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,070
so that they hopefully can come to the
conclusion on their own that they put

4040
01:09:11,070 --> 01:09:11,080
conclusion on their own that they put
 

4041
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,630
conclusion on their own that they put
their put their put stock in the wrong

4042
01:09:13,630 --> 01:09:13,640
their put their put stock in the wrong
 

4043
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,230
their put their put stock in the wrong
sources of information and then you

4044
01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:15,240
sources of information and then you
 

4045
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,749
sources of information and then you
know, maybe evolve in their world view

4046
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:17,759
know, maybe evolve in their world view
 

4047
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:19,550
know, maybe evolve in their world view
on their own. Um

4048
01:09:19,550 --> 01:09:19,560
on their own. Um
 

4049
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,110
on their own. Um
But the goal is never to go like if you

4050
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:21,120
But the goal is never to go like if you
 

4051
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,309
But the goal is never to go like if you
believe in God, you're dumb. This never

4052
01:09:23,309 --> 01:09:23,319
believe in God, you're dumb. This never
 

4053
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,910
believe in God, you're dumb. This never
ever said it. In fact, earlier in this

4054
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:25,920
ever said it. In fact, earlier in this
 

4055
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,030
ever said it. In fact, earlier in this
conversation with with Derek, We were

4056
01:09:28,030 --> 01:09:28,040
conversation with with Derek, We were
 

4057
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,190
conversation with with Derek, We were
talking about specifically that that I'm

4058
01:09:30,190 --> 01:09:30,200
talking about specifically that that I'm
 

4059
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,590
talking about specifically that that I'm
not offended whatsoever by the belief in

4060
01:09:32,590 --> 01:09:32,600
not offended whatsoever by the belief in
 

4061
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,749
not offended whatsoever by the belief in
God, simply by science denial and

4062
01:09:34,749 --> 01:09:34,759
God, simply by science denial and
 

4063
01:09:34,759 --> 01:09:37,309
God, simply by science denial and
specifically anti-science propaganda.

4064
01:09:37,309 --> 01:09:37,319
specifically anti-science propaganda.
 

4065
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:38,190
specifically anti-science propaganda.
So.

4066
01:09:38,190 --> 01:09:38,200
So.
 

4067
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,950
So.
So what what do you disagree with Dave

4068
01:09:39,950 --> 01:09:39,960
So what what do you disagree with Dave
 

4069
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,550
So what what do you disagree with Dave
on? I mean what would you I mean he

4070
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:42,560
on? I mean what would you I mean he
 

4071
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,110
on? I mean what would you I mean he
believes evolution. He believes

4072
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:45,120
believes evolution. He believes
 

4073
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,630
believes evolution. He believes
abiogenesis, life came from non-life.

4074
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:48,640
abiogenesis, life came from non-life.
 

4075
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,510
abiogenesis, life came from non-life.
Well

4076
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:49,520
Well
 

4077
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,550
Well
well well okay, I would say that's like

4078
01:09:51,550 --> 01:09:51,560
well well okay, I would say that's like
 

4079
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,190
well well okay, I would say that's like
a major problem. I think I think you're

4080
01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:53,200
a major problem. I think I think you're
 

4081
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,910
a major problem. I think I think you're
kind of um

4082
01:09:54,910 --> 01:09:54,920
kind of um
 

4083
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,110
kind of um
I don't know I don't know too much about

4084
01:09:56,110 --> 01:09:56,120
I don't know I don't know too much about
 

4085
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,230
I don't know I don't know too much about
your work but I've seen a few of your

4086
01:09:57,230 --> 01:09:57,240
your work but I've seen a few of your
 

4087
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,390
your work but I've seen a few of your
videos and I do feel like you kind of

4088
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:59,400
videos and I do feel like you kind of
 

4089
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,990
videos and I do feel like you kind of
make it seem as if abiogenesis

4090
01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:01,000
make it seem as if abiogenesis
 

4091
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,350
make it seem as if abiogenesis
>> Where where did life come from then? If

4092
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:03,360
>> Where where did life come from then? If
 

4093
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,110
>> Where where did life come from then? If
life didn't come from organic

4094
01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:06,120
life didn't come from organic
 

4095
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,910
life didn't come from organic
you know, chemistry if you will, how did

4096
01:10:08,910 --> 01:10:08,920
you know, chemistry if you will, how did
 

4097
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,750
you know, chemistry if you will, how did
it come to be then Toronto? That's kind

4098
01:10:10,750 --> 01:10:10,760
it come to be then Toronto? That's kind
 

4099
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,750
it come to be then Toronto? That's kind
of a I know I know you well enough by

4100
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:12,760
of a I know I know you well enough by
 

4101
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,390
of a I know I know you well enough by
the way Dave, I know Toronto well

4102
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:14,400
the way Dave, I know Toronto well
 

4103
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,310
the way Dave, I know Toronto well
enough. We've had engagement several

4104
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:16,320
enough. We've had engagement several
 

4105
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:16,928
enough. We've had engagement several
times.

4106
01:10:16,928 --> 01:10:16,938
times.
 

4107
01:10:16,938 --> 01:10:16,990
times.
>> [clears throat]

4108
01:10:16,990 --> 01:10:17,000
>> [clears throat]
 

4109
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,670
>> [clears throat]
>> Like what's your problem with what Dave

4110
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:18,680
>> Like what's your problem with what Dave
 

4111
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:19,910
>> Like what's your problem with what Dave
said? Like

4112
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:19,920
said? Like
 

4113
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,150
said? Like
why is creationism true? You know what I

4114
01:10:22,150 --> 01:10:22,160
why is creationism true? You know what I
 

4115
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,630
why is creationism true? You know what I
mean? What do you say about the origin

4116
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:24,640
mean? What do you say about the origin
 

4117
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,990
mean? What do you say about the origin
of life Dave? I'm not really sure.

4118
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:27,000
of life Dave? I'm not really sure.
 

4119
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,030
of life Dave? I'm not really sure.
Okay, I mean see the the problem with

4120
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:29,040
Okay, I mean see the the problem with
 

4121
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,430
Okay, I mean see the the problem with
this topic is it's extremely dense. It

4122
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:32,440
this topic is it's extremely dense. It
 

4123
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:34,350
this topic is it's extremely dense. It
requires a lot of discussion of

4124
01:10:34,350 --> 01:10:34,360
requires a lot of discussion of
 

4125
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,350
requires a lot of discussion of
molecular biology principles that are

4126
01:10:36,350 --> 01:10:36,360
molecular biology principles that are
 

4127
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,590
molecular biology principles that are
not I mean it's hard to explain which is

4128
01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:38,600
not I mean it's hard to explain which is
 

4129
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,510
not I mean it's hard to explain which is
why I have hours and hours and hours of

4130
01:10:40,510 --> 01:10:40,520
why I have hours and hours and hours of
 

4131
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,150
why I have hours and hours and hours of
content going through primary literature

4132
01:10:43,150 --> 01:10:43,160
content going through primary literature
 

4133
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,150
content going through primary literature
and explaining these different models.

4134
01:10:45,150 --> 01:10:45,160
and explaining these different models.
 

4135
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,030
and explaining these different models.
Um

4136
01:10:46,030 --> 01:10:46,040
Um
 

4137
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,110
Um
I mean what is it worth like trying to

4138
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:48,120
I mean what is it worth like trying to
 

4139
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,550
I mean what is it worth like trying to
summarize it it in in a in a cliff notes

4140
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:50,560
summarize it it in in a in a cliff notes
 

4141
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,630
summarize it it in in a in a cliff notes
fashion? I can I certainly can try to do

4142
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:52,640
fashion? I can I certainly can try to do
 

4143
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,030
fashion? I can I certainly can try to do
that. Can I say this then that I think

4144
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:55,040
that. Can I say this then that I think
 

4145
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,590
that. Can I say this then that I think
there's in the field there's an

4146
01:10:56,590 --> 01:10:56,600
there's in the field there's an
 

4147
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,350
there's in the field there's an
acknowledgement of this gap between

4148
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:59,360
acknowledgement of this gap between
 

4149
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,150
acknowledgement of this gap between
the chemistry

4150
01:11:01,150 --> 01:11:01,160
the chemistry
 

4151
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,270
the chemistry
and the first kind of

4152
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:03,280
and the first kind of
 

4153
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,270
and the first kind of
protocell machinery you would require to

4154
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:05,280
protocell machinery you would require to
 

4155
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,070
protocell machinery you would require to
have a cell like a ribosome or something

4156
01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:07,080
have a cell like a ribosome or something
 

4157
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,310
have a cell like a ribosome or something
like that. There there's a this

4158
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:08,320
like that. There there's a this
 

4159
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,510
like that. There there's a this
acknowledgement that Well not not not a

4160
01:11:10,510 --> 01:11:10,520
acknowledgement that Well not not not a
 

4161
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,070
acknowledgement that Well not not not a
ribosome. in the field there's a this

4162
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:12,080
ribosome. in the field there's a this
 

4163
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,510
ribosome. in the field there's a this
acknowledgement that that's a serious

4164
01:11:14,510 --> 01:11:14,520
acknowledgement that that's a serious
 

4165
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,310
acknowledgement that that's a serious
problem for them right now, right? Or

4166
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:16,320
problem for them right now, right? Or
 

4167
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,430
problem for them right now, right? Or
what would you say about that?

4168
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:17,440
what would you say about that?
 

4169
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,150
what would you say about that?
>> Sure. So I would say a couple things.

4170
01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:19,160
>> Sure. So I would say a couple things.
 

4171
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,350
>> Sure. So I would say a couple things.
The the first thing I would say is that

4172
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:21,360
The the first thing I would say is that
 

4173
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,870
The the first thing I would say is that
there creationists will constantly

4174
01:11:23,870 --> 01:11:23,880
there creationists will constantly
 

4175
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,590
there creationists will constantly
misrepresent the field and what the

4176
01:11:26,590 --> 01:11:26,600
misrepresent the field and what the
 

4177
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,870
misrepresent the field and what the
first protocell would be. So the worst

4178
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:28,880
first protocell would be. So the worst
 

4179
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,630
first protocell would be. So the worst
creationists will show a eukaryotic

4180
01:11:31,630 --> 01:11:31,640
creationists will show a eukaryotic
 

4181
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,790
creationists will show a eukaryotic
cell, a modern eukaryotic cell with all

4182
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:34,800
cell, a modern eukaryotic cell with all
 

4183
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,710
cell, a modern eukaryotic cell with all
of the organelles and everything and go

4184
01:11:36,710 --> 01:11:36,720
of the organelles and everything and go
 

4185
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,110
of the organelles and everything and go
how did this just happen? Yeah. No, this

4186
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:39,120
how did this just happen? Yeah. No, this
 

4187
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:39,670
how did this just happen? Yeah. No, this
is ridiculous.

4188
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:39,680
is ridiculous.
 

4189
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,510
is ridiculous.
>> Even even a ribosome even a ribosome is

4190
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:41,520
>> Even even a ribosome even a ribosome is
 

4191
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,670
>> Even even a ribosome even a ribosome is
very difficult to come to just from

4192
01:11:43,670 --> 01:11:43,680
very difficult to come to just from
 

4193
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,150
very difficult to come to just from
chemistry, right? Like that's the

4194
01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:45,160
chemistry, right? Like that's the
 

4195
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,670
chemistry, right? Like that's the
problem, isn't not necessarily. It's

4196
01:11:46,670 --> 01:11:46,680
problem, isn't not necessarily. It's
 

4197
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,430
problem, isn't not necessarily. It's
just it's just an RNA strand and and

4198
01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:48,440
just it's just an RNA strand and and
 

4199
01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:50,190
just it's just an RNA strand and and
then and then you have tRNAs. I mean

4200
01:11:50,190 --> 01:11:50,200
then and then you have tRNAs. I mean
 

4201
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,190
then and then you have tRNAs. I mean
it's it's RNA, right? A ribosome

4202
01:11:52,190 --> 01:11:52,200
it's it's RNA, right? A ribosome
 

4203
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,230
it's it's RNA, right? A ribosome
it's ribosomal RNA.

4204
01:11:54,230 --> 01:11:54,240
it's ribosomal RNA.
 

4205
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,710
it's ribosomal RNA.
Isn't it the thing that Okay. that kind

4206
01:11:56,710 --> 01:11:56,720
Isn't it the thing that Okay. that kind
 

4207
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,430
Isn't it the thing that Okay. that kind
of test the RNA or or or kind of RNA

4208
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:59,440
of test the RNA or or or kind of RNA
 

4209
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,590
of test the RNA or or or kind of RNA
>> but but also but also we're not talking

4210
01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:01,600
>> but but also but also we're not talking
 

4211
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,590
>> but but also but also we're not talking
necessarily about ribosomes, right? The

4212
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:03,600
necessarily about ribosomes, right? The
 

4213
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,070
necessarily about ribosomes, right? The
what I was doing is I'm saying even if

4214
01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:05,080
what I was doing is I'm saying even if
 

4215
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,710
what I was doing is I'm saying even if
you show a prokaryotic cell, even if you

4216
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:06,720
you show a prokaryotic cell, even if you
 

4217
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,710
you show a prokaryotic cell, even if you
show

4218
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:07,720
show
 

4219
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,190
show
you know, a back a modern bacterium,

4220
01:12:09,190 --> 01:12:09,200
you know, a back a modern bacterium,
 

4221
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,990
you know, a back a modern bacterium,
right? That's still tremendously more

4222
01:12:10,990 --> 01:12:11,000
right? That's still tremendously more
 

4223
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,430
right? That's still tremendously more
complex. So it there's there's a a

4224
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:13,440
complex. So it there's there's a a
 

4225
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,510
complex. So it there's there's a a
deliberate

4226
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:15,520
deliberate
 

4227
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,310
deliberate
you know, attempt to misrepresent what a

4228
01:12:17,310 --> 01:12:17,320
you know, attempt to misrepresent what a
 

4229
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,470
you know, attempt to misrepresent what a
what a protocell is, right? You have you

4230
01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:19,480
what a protocell is, right? You have you
 

4231
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:21,030
what a protocell is, right? You have you
have some RNA and you have some

4232
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:21,040
have some RNA and you have some
 

4233
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,550
have some RNA and you have some
polypeptides and you have some kind of

4234
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:22,560
polypeptides and you have some kind of
 

4235
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,750
polypeptides and you have some kind of
metabolism going on. Um so that's very

4236
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:25,760
metabolism going on. Um so that's very
 

4237
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,470
metabolism going on. Um so that's very
rudimentary protocell. Now the other

4238
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:27,480
rudimentary protocell. Now the other
 

4239
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:29,390
rudimentary protocell. Now the other
side is that I absolutely will concede

4240
01:12:29,390 --> 01:12:29,400
side is that I absolutely will concede
 

4241
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,150
side is that I absolutely will concede
that we don't have a one like a perfect

4242
01:12:32,150 --> 01:12:32,160
that we don't have a one like a perfect
 

4243
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,550
that we don't have a one like a perfect
step-by-step understanding of of how the

4244
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:34,560
step-by-step understanding of of how the
 

4245
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,390
step-by-step understanding of of how the
first protocell came to be. I'd be lying

4246
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:36,400
first protocell came to be. I'd be lying
 

4247
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,990
first protocell came to be. I'd be lying
if I said that, right? It's not it's not

4248
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:38,000
if I said that, right? It's not it's not
 

4249
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,190
if I said that, right? It's not it's not
open and shut.

4250
01:12:39,190 --> 01:12:39,200
open and shut.
 

4251
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,790
open and shut.
It's it's it's an ongoing thing. But but

4252
01:12:41,790 --> 01:12:41,800
It's it's it's an ongoing thing. But but
 

4253
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,510
It's it's it's an ongoing thing. But but
the thing is that and this is what I do

4254
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:43,520
the thing is that and this is what I do
 

4255
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,110
the thing is that and this is what I do
when I debate James Tour and when I you

4256
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:45,120
when I debate James Tour and when I you
 

4257
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,870
when I debate James Tour and when I you
know, debate it's it's the it's the it's

4258
01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:47,880
know, debate it's it's the it's the it's
 

4259
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,590
know, debate it's it's the it's the it's
the absolute unwillingness to engage

4260
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:51,600
the absolute unwillingness to engage
 

4261
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,790
the absolute unwillingness to engage
with the with the products of of say

4262
01:12:53,790 --> 01:12:53,800
with the with the products of of say
 

4263
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,830
with the with the products of of say
systems chemistry that is showing

4264
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:55,840
systems chemistry that is showing
 

4265
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,990
systems chemistry that is showing
autocatalytic behavior and showing how

4266
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:58,000
autocatalytic behavior and showing how
 

4267
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,110
autocatalytic behavior and showing how
self-replicating systems I mean we're

4268
01:13:00,110 --> 01:13:00,120
self-replicating systems I mean we're
 

4269
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,430
self-replicating systems I mean we're
we're showing the behavior of

4270
01:13:01,430 --> 01:13:01,440
we're showing the behavior of
 

4271
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:02,990
we're showing the behavior of
self-replicating systems. Is it a

4272
01:13:02,990 --> 01:13:03,000
self-replicating systems. Is it a
 

4273
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,270
self-replicating systems. Is it a
protocell? No, it's not but it's just

4274
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:05,280
protocell? No, it's not but it's just
 

4275
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,990
protocell? No, it's not but it's just
it's this inability to go hey, here are

4276
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:08,000
it's this inability to go hey, here are
 

4277
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,190
it's this inability to go hey, here are
some principles that are really clearly

4278
01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:10,200
some principles that are really clearly
 

4279
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,750
some principles that are really clearly
elucidating how how life can have arisen

4280
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:13,760
elucidating how how life can have arisen
 

4281
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,510
elucidating how how life can have arisen
and just sort of doing this big smear

4282
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:15,520
and just sort of doing this big smear
 

4283
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,630
and just sort of doing this big smear
campaign and you know, that's what you

4284
01:13:17,630 --> 01:13:17,640
campaign and you know, that's what you
 

4285
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:17,950
campaign and you know, that's what you
do.

4286
01:13:17,950 --> 01:13:17,960
do.
 

4287
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,270
do.
>> Well let me let me paint something for

4288
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:19,280
>> Well let me let me paint something for
 

4289
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,750
>> Well let me let me paint something for
you Toronto because I've given this

4290
01:13:20,750 --> 01:13:20,760
you Toronto because I've given this
 

4291
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,790
you Toronto because I've given this
analogy briefly and this is completely

4292
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:22,800
analogy briefly and this is completely
 

4293
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,510
analogy briefly and this is completely
out of but this is I think easy to

4294
01:13:24,510 --> 01:13:24,520
out of but this is I think easy to
 

4295
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,950
out of but this is I think easy to
grasp. You live in California, right

4296
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:26,960
grasp. You live in California, right
 

4297
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,350
grasp. You live in California, right
Dave? Yeah.

4298
01:13:28,350 --> 01:13:28,360
Dave? Yeah.
 

4299
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,230
Dave? Yeah.
Okay, I'm in Florida. Let's just pretend

4300
01:13:30,230 --> 01:13:30,240
Okay, I'm in Florida. Let's just pretend
 

4301
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,190
Okay, I'm in Florida. Let's just pretend
I'm on the phone with you and all of a

4302
01:13:32,190 --> 01:13:32,200
I'm on the phone with you and all of a
 

4303
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,390
I'm on the phone with you and all of a
sudden within like 45 minutes to 60

4304
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:34,400
sudden within like 45 minutes to 60
 

4305
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,150
sudden within like 45 minutes to 60
minutes, I just hung up with you. You go

4306
01:13:37,150 --> 01:13:37,160
minutes, I just hung up with you. You go
 

4307
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,750
minutes, I just hung up with you. You go
in your living room and find me dead on

4308
01:13:38,750 --> 01:13:38,760
in your living room and find me dead on
 

4309
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,510
in your living room and find me dead on
your couch. Mhm.

4310
01:13:40,510 --> 01:13:40,520
your couch. Mhm.
 

4311
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,030
your couch. Mhm.
45 minutes.

4312
01:13:42,030 --> 01:13:42,040
45 minutes.
 

4313
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,510
45 minutes.
How the hell did that happen?

4314
01:13:44,510 --> 01:13:44,520
How the hell did that happen?
 

4315
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:44,990
How the hell did that happen?
All right?

4316
01:13:44,990 --> 01:13:45,000
All right?
 

4317
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,510
All right?
>> Yeah. They don't find any receipts. I

4318
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:47,520
>> Yeah. They don't find any receipts. I
 

4319
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,750
>> Yeah. They don't find any receipts. I
they can't prove that I got in a jet cuz

4320
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:49,760
they can't prove that I got in a jet cuz
 

4321
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,750
they can't prove that I got in a jet cuz
I know a friend who's a billionaire who

4322
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:51,760
I know a friend who's a billionaire who
 

4323
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,230
I know a friend who's a billionaire who
flew me and somehow I ended up on your

4324
01:13:53,230 --> 01:13:53,240
flew me and somehow I ended up on your
 

4325
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,310
flew me and somehow I ended up on your
couch.

4326
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:54,320
couch.
 

4327
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,870
couch.
The last thing you're going to think is

4328
01:13:55,870 --> 01:13:55,880
The last thing you're going to think is
 

4329
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,750
The last thing you're going to think is
I instantaneously teleported by magic,

4330
01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:59,760
I instantaneously teleported by magic,
 

4331
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,790
I instantaneously teleported by magic,
okay? You're going to look for every

4332
01:14:01,790 --> 01:14:01,800
okay? You're going to look for every
 

4333
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,750
okay? You're going to look for every
other possible explanation before you

4334
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:03,760
other possible explanation before you
 

4335
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,910
other possible explanation before you
end up running to abracadabra. And this

4336
01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:06,920
end up running to abracadabra. And this
 

4337
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,270
end up running to abracadabra. And this
is how I look at abiogenesis in my mind

4338
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:09,280
is how I look at abiogenesis in my mind
 

4339
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,270
is how I look at abiogenesis in my mind
as someone who knows what it think God

4340
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:11,280
as someone who knows what it think God
 

4341
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,870
as someone who knows what it think God
did it magic, you know, that kind of

4342
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:12,880
did it magic, you know, that kind of
 

4343
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,190
did it magic, you know, that kind of
thing and go okay.

4344
01:14:15,190 --> 01:14:15,200
thing and go okay.
 

4345
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,790
thing and go okay.
We have all this natural process, this

4346
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:16,800
We have all this natural process, this
 

4347
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,190
We have all this natural process, this
history of fossils, the history of of

4348
01:14:19,190 --> 01:14:19,200
history of fossils, the history of of
 

4349
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,630
history of fossils, the history of of
being able to see this in action. I

4350
01:14:21,630 --> 01:14:21,640
being able to see this in action. I
 

4351
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,830
being able to see this in action. I
can't see past a a certain point

4352
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:23,840
can't see past a a certain point
 

4353
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,670
can't see past a a certain point
backwards. But I'm not going to jump to

4354
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:26,680
backwards. But I'm not going to jump to
 

4355
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,950
backwards. But I'm not going to jump to
abracadabra. I'm going to suspect it's

4356
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:28,960
abracadabra. I'm going to suspect it's
 

4357
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,830
abracadabra. I'm going to suspect it's
something I'm not aware of or I don't

4358
01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:30,840
something I'm not aware of or I don't
 

4359
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,070
something I'm not aware of or I don't
know that did that but it's not going to

4360
01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:33,080
know that did that but it's not going to
 

4361
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,430
know that did that but it's not going to
be like magic. It's going to be

4362
01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:34,440
be like magic. It's going to be
 

4363
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:35,910
be like magic. It's going to be
something that is in that gap of my

4364
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:35,920
something that is in that gap of my
 

4365
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,630
something that is in that gap of my
knowledge. Derek might have known a

4366
01:14:37,630 --> 01:14:37,640
knowledge. Derek might have known a
 

4367
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,230
knowledge. Derek might have known a
billionaire who had a jet that could get

4368
01:14:39,230 --> 01:14:39,240
billionaire who had a jet that could get
 

4369
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:40,830
billionaire who had a jet that could get
him there in 30 minutes. Or I was

4370
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:40,840
him there in 30 minutes. Or I was
 

4371
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,550
him there in 30 minutes. Or I was
talking to a voice actor on the phone

4372
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:42,560
talking to a voice actor on the phone
 

4373
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,070
talking to a voice actor on the phone
and you were here the whole time or I

4374
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:44,080
and you were here the whole time or I
 

4375
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,310
and you were here the whole time or I
Exactly. All of those are more likely

4376
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:46,320
Exactly. All of those are more likely
 

4377
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,150
Exactly. All of those are more likely
than the abracadabra thing. So in my

4378
01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:48,160
than the abracadabra thing. So in my
 

4379
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,150
than the abracadabra thing. So in my
mind when I ask if you're a creationist

4380
01:14:50,150 --> 01:14:50,160
mind when I ask if you're a creationist
 

4381
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,950
mind when I ask if you're a creationist
whether you want to say creationist from

4382
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:51,960
whether you want to say creationist from
 

4383
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,230
whether you want to say creationist from
the abiogenesis onward, meaning God came

4384
01:14:54,230 --> 01:14:54,240
the abiogenesis onward, meaning God came
 

4385
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,470
the abiogenesis onward, meaning God came
down and did something, you know,

4386
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:56,480
down and did something, you know,
 

4387
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,390
down and did something, you know,
himself or the real creationists Dave

4388
01:14:59,390 --> 01:14:59,400
himself or the real creationists Dave
 

4389
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,030
himself or the real creationists Dave
was hoping would call in where the ones

4390
01:15:01,030 --> 01:15:01,040
was hoping would call in where the ones
 

4391
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,310
was hoping would call in where the ones
who think 7,000 years ago the earth was

4392
01:15:03,310 --> 01:15:03,320
who think 7,000 years ago the earth was
 

4393
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,630
who think 7,000 years ago the earth was
made and he made Adam and Eve and

4394
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:04,640
made and he made Adam and Eve and
 

4395
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,950
made and he made Adam and Eve and
they're real literal people and all of

4396
01:15:05,950 --> 01:15:05,960
they're real literal people and all of
 

4397
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,510
they're real literal people and all of
that kind of stuff. Well it sounds like

4398
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:07,520
that kind of stuff. Well it sounds like
 

4399
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,790
that kind of stuff. Well it sounds like
he's not engaging in those beliefs. It

4400
01:15:09,790 --> 01:15:09,800
he's not engaging in those beliefs. It
 

4401
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,390
he's not engaging in those beliefs. It
sounds like you accept the majority of

4402
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:12,400
sounds like you accept the majority of
 

4403
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,390
sounds like you accept the majority of
the scientific explanation for

4404
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:14,400
the scientific explanation for
 

4405
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,790
the scientific explanation for
the proliferation of life on earth.

4406
01:15:15,790 --> 01:15:15,800
the proliferation of life on earth.
 

4407
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,470
the proliferation of life on earth.
You're just kind of like

4408
01:15:17,470 --> 01:15:17,480
You're just kind of like
 

4409
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:19,310
You're just kind of like
Look, I'm very sympathetic to people

4410
01:15:19,310 --> 01:15:19,320
Look, I'm very sympathetic to people
 

4411
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,350
Look, I'm very sympathetic to people
that are mystified by abiogenesis. It's

4412
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:21,360
that are mystified by abiogenesis. It's
 

4413
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,030
that are mystified by abiogenesis. It's
very hard to understand. It's very hard

4414
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:23,040
very hard to understand. It's very hard
 

4415
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,150
very hard to understand. It's very hard
to read this literature and yeah.

4416
01:15:26,150 --> 01:15:26,160
to read this literature and yeah.
 

4417
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,150
to read this literature and yeah.
Yeah and then and then well to answer

4418
01:15:28,150 --> 01:15:28,160
Yeah and then and then well to answer
 

4419
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,670
Yeah and then and then well to answer
what you're saying Derek, like

4420
01:15:30,670 --> 01:15:30,680
what you're saying Derek, like
 

4421
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,070
what you're saying Derek, like
the reason why we we go to these to this

4422
01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:33,080
the reason why we we go to these to this
 

4423
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,670
the reason why we we go to these to this
explanation of God is because

4424
01:15:34,670 --> 01:15:34,680
explanation of God is because
 

4425
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,590
explanation of God is because
philosophically

4426
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:36,600
philosophically
 

4427
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,470
philosophically
right? There's many problems with this

4428
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:38,480
right? There's many problems with this
 

4429
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,630
right? There's many problems with this
naturalistic view

4430
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:40,640
naturalistic view
 

4431
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,110
naturalistic view
of the universe and everything. Like for

4432
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:43,120
of the universe and everything. Like for
 

4433
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,830
of the universe and everything. Like for
example

4434
01:15:44,830 --> 01:15:44,840
example
 

4435
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,630
example
um where where did the universe come

4436
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:46,640
um where where did the universe come
 

4437
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,310
um where where did the universe come
from? Why is there universe rather than

4438
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:48,320
from? Why is there universe rather than
 

4439
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,550
from? Why is there universe rather than
no universe? These questions are

4440
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:50,560
no universe? These questions are
 

4441
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,430
no universe? These questions are
important. But that's that's the only

4442
01:15:52,430 --> 01:15:52,440
important. But that's that's the only
 

4443
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:54,310
important. But that's that's the only
you're describing a God of the gaps and

4444
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:54,320
you're describing a God of the gaps and
 

4445
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,470
you're describing a God of the gaps and
you're describing the the last remaining

4446
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:56,480
you're describing the the last remaining
 

4447
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:58,870
you're describing the the last remaining
gap where your God where your God can

4448
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:58,880
gap where your God where your God can
 

4449
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,310
gap where your God where your God can
live and I'll concede that gap. You you

4450
01:16:01,310 --> 01:16:01,320
live and I'll concede that gap. You you
 

4451
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,830
live and I'll concede that gap. You you
can believe in a God that triggered the

4452
01:16:02,830 --> 01:16:02,840
can believe in a God that triggered the
 

4453
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,070
can believe in a God that triggered the
beginning of the universe and then the

4454
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:04,080
beginning of the universe and then the
 

4455
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:04,910
beginning of the universe and then the
rest

4456
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:04,920
rest
 

4457
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,350
rest
evolved by natural principles. I have no

4458
01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:06,360
evolved by natural principles. I have no
 

4459
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,750
evolved by natural principles. I have no
problem with that. No, I don't even I

4460
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:07,760
problem with that. No, I don't even I
 

4461
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:08,670
problem with that. No, I don't even I
don't even

4462
01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:08,680
don't even
 

4463
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,550
don't even
real quick let me let me let me get

4464
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:10,560
real quick let me let me let me get
 

4465
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,430
real quick let me let me let me get
closer to I really want to pin you down

4466
01:16:12,430 --> 01:16:12,440
closer to I really want to pin you down
 

4467
01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:13,950
closer to I really want to pin you down
here to see where you're at. Do you

4468
01:16:13,950 --> 01:16:13,960
here to see where you're at. Do you
 

4469
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,590
here to see where you're at. Do you
think Adam and Eve were the first humans

4470
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:15,600
think Adam and Eve were the first humans
 

4471
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,790
think Adam and Eve were the first humans
on earth?

4472
01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:17,800
on earth?
 

4473
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,150
on earth?
Um well look, I believe the Bible,

4474
01:16:20,150 --> 01:16:20,160
Um well look, I believe the Bible,
 

4475
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,910
Um well look, I believe the Bible,
right? So

4476
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:21,920
right? So
 

4477
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,630
right? So
but I

4478
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:22,640
but I
 

4479
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,830
but I
look, I understand I understand that the

4480
01:16:24,830 --> 01:16:24,840
look, I understand I understand that the
 

4481
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,670
look, I understand I understand that the
scientific explanations are

4482
01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:27,680
scientific explanations are
 

4483
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,150
scientific explanations are
very strong. I get it. I get that.

4484
01:16:30,150 --> 01:16:30,160
very strong. I get it. I get that.
 

4485
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,150
very strong. I get it. I get that.
However, I would say that they're

4486
01:16:32,150 --> 01:16:32,160
However, I would say that they're
 

4487
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:33,910
However, I would say that they're
abductive arguments, right? So there

4488
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:33,920
abductive arguments, right? So there
 

4489
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,550
abductive arguments, right? So there
could be some other data that we're not

4490
01:16:35,550 --> 01:16:35,560
could be some other data that we're not
 

4491
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,990
could be some other data that we're not
aware of that that could complicate the

4492
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:38,000
aware of that that could complicate the
 

4493
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,350
aware of that that could complicate the
matter.

4494
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:39,360
matter.
 

4495
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,190
matter.
>> literally the entire body of scientific

4496
01:16:41,190 --> 01:16:41,200
>> literally the entire body of scientific
 

4497
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,310
>> literally the entire body of scientific
knowledge. I mean it's

4498
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:42,320
knowledge. I mean it's
 

4499
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,310
knowledge. I mean it's
>> no. For example, for example, look it's

4500
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:44,320
>> no. For example, for example, look it's
 

4501
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,870
>> no. For example, for example, look it's
the logic it works like this, right?

4502
01:16:45,870 --> 01:16:45,880
the logic it works like this, right?
 

4503
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,190
the logic it works like this, right?
Like

4504
01:16:47,190 --> 01:16:47,200
Like
 

4505
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,030
Like
I I I walk downstairs in my house and I

4506
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:50,040
I I I walk downstairs in my house and I
 

4507
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,990
I I I walk downstairs in my house and I
see a wet umbrella.

4508
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:52,000
see a wet umbrella.
 

4509
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,070
see a wet umbrella.
I assume therefore that it's raining

4510
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:54,080
I assume therefore that it's raining
 

4511
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,470
I assume therefore that it's raining
outside.

4512
01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:55,480
outside.
 

4513
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:56,750
outside.
It's a it's a reasonable it's a

4514
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:56,760
It's a it's a reasonable it's a
 

4515
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,830
It's a it's a reasonable it's a
reasonable inference, you know?

4516
01:16:58,830 --> 01:16:58,840
reasonable inference, you know?
 

4517
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,550
reasonable inference, you know?
However, what I didn't know is that my

4518
01:17:00,550 --> 01:17:00,560
However, what I didn't know is that my
 

4519
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,790
However, what I didn't know is that my
kid took the umbrella outside and was

4520
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:02,800
kid took the umbrella outside and was
 

4521
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,350
kid took the umbrella outside and was
playing with the other kid next door and

4522
01:17:04,350 --> 01:17:04,360
playing with the other kid next door and
 

4523
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,510
playing with the other kid next door and
that they were spraying with a hose and

4524
01:17:06,510 --> 01:17:06,520
that they were spraying with a hose and
 

4525
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,710
that they were spraying with a hose and
that's why the umbrella got wet. I just

4526
01:17:08,710 --> 01:17:08,720
that's why the umbrella got wet. I just
 

4527
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,190
that's why the umbrella got wet. I just
wasn't aware I just wasn't aware of all

4528
01:17:10,190 --> 01:17:10,200
wasn't aware I just wasn't aware of all
 

4529
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,590
wasn't aware I just wasn't aware of all
the facts. What about Adam and Eve

4530
01:17:12,590 --> 01:17:12,600
the facts. What about Adam and Eve
 

4531
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,150
the facts. What about Adam and Eve
though? Adam and Eve though. Like just

4532
01:17:14,150 --> 01:17:14,160
though? Adam and Eve though. Like just
 

4533
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,870
though? Adam and Eve though. Like just
getting to one example because I think

4534
01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:15,880
getting to one example because I think
 

4535
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,150
getting to one example because I think
this is important in knowing where you

4536
01:17:17,150 --> 01:17:17,160
this is important in knowing where you
 

4537
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,470
this is important in knowing where you
are on creation. Do you think that Adam

4538
01:17:19,470 --> 01:17:19,480
are on creation. Do you think that Adam
 

4539
01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:21,190
are on creation. Do you think that Adam
and Eve were the first human beings and

4540
01:17:21,190 --> 01:17:21,200
and Eve were the first human beings and
 

4541
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,190
and Eve were the first human beings and
they were historical? Well I think there

4542
01:17:23,190 --> 01:17:23,200
they were historical? Well I think there
 

4543
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,030
they were historical? Well I think there
there is some evidence from from even

4544
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:25,040
there is some evidence from from even
 

4545
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,590
there is some evidence from from even
from gene gene gene science like that

4546
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:27,600
from gene gene gene science like that
 

4547
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,950
from gene gene gene science like that
that that there's this kind of um

4548
01:17:29,950 --> 01:17:29,960
that that there's this kind of um
 

4549
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,150
that that there's this kind of um
bottlenecks and this idea of like

4550
01:17:33,150 --> 01:17:33,160
bottlenecks and this idea of like
 

4551
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,390
bottlenecks and this idea of like
um

4552
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:34,400
um
 

4553
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,550
um
It is genetically untenable for all of

4554
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:36,560
It is genetically untenable for all of
 

4555
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,070
It is genetically untenable for all of
humans to descend from a pair of people.

4556
01:17:39,070 --> 01:17:39,080
humans to descend from a pair of people.
 

4557
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,710
humans to descend from a pair of people.
It does not work.

4558
01:17:40,710 --> 01:17:40,720
It does not work.
 

4559
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,870
It does not work.
Not Adam and Eve, not Noah. They did

4560
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:42,880
Not Adam and Eve, not Noah. They did
 

4561
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,030
Not Adam and Eve, not Noah. They did
that that there was that there that that

4562
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:45,040
that that there was that there that that
 

4563
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,630
that that there was that there that that
all humans are are kind of

4564
01:17:47,630 --> 01:17:47,640
all humans are are kind of
 

4565
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,270
all humans are are kind of
descended from um

4566
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:51,280

 

4567
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,790

Or like let's say let's say let's say

4568
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:52,800
Or like let's say let's say let's say
 

4569
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,790
Or like let's say let's say let's say
there was like a group of humans

4570
01:17:55,790 --> 01:17:55,800
there was like a group of humans
 

4571
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,350
there was like a group of humans
and there was one set like Adam and Eve,

4572
01:17:58,350 --> 01:17:58,360
and there was one set like Adam and Eve,
 

4573
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,590
and there was one set like Adam and Eve,
let's say.

4574
01:18:00,590 --> 01:18:00,600
let's say.
 

4575
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,470
let's say.
Why are you Toronto? What are we doing

4576
01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:03,480
Why are you Toronto? What are we doing
 

4577
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:04,990
Why are you Toronto? What are we doing
here, bro? The the problem so we were

4578
01:18:04,990 --> 01:18:05,000
here, bro? The the problem so we were
 

4579
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,950
here, bro? The the problem so we were
doing better before because for you to

4580
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:06,960
doing better before because for you to
 

4581
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,670
doing better before because for you to
be confused about the concept of

4582
01:18:08,670 --> 01:18:08,680
be confused about the concept of
 

4583
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,190
be confused about the concept of
abiogenesis and require clarification is

4584
01:18:11,190 --> 01:18:11,200
abiogenesis and require clarification is
 

4585
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,630
abiogenesis and require clarification is
100% understandable. But biblical

4586
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:14,640
100% understandable. But biblical
 

4587
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,709
100% understandable. But biblical
literalism is indefensible. I'm sorry.

4588
01:18:17,709 --> 01:18:17,719
literalism is indefensible. I'm sorry.
 

4589
01:18:17,719 --> 01:18:21,110
literalism is indefensible. I'm sorry.
It flies in the face of every scientific

4590
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:21,120
It flies in the face of every scientific
 

4591
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,870
It flies in the face of every scientific
principle, every field of science,

4592
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:22,880
principle, every field of science,
 

4593
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,030
principle, every field of science,
geology, physics, chemistry,

4594
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:25,040
geology, physics, chemistry,
 

4595
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,430
geology, physics, chemistry,
biology, all of it. It's just not

4596
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:27,440
biology, all of it. It's just not
 

4597
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:29,470
biology, all of it. It's just not
defensible. That's why it is a blind

4598
01:18:29,470 --> 01:18:29,480
defensible. That's why it is a blind
 

4599
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:31,590
defensible. That's why it is a blind
faith position. It's Did you just hear

4600
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:31,600
faith position. It's Did you just hear
 

4601
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,230
faith position. It's Did you just hear
what I said about

4602
01:18:33,230 --> 01:18:33,240
what I said about
 

4603
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,630
what I said about
about the abductive logic? Did

4604
01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:35,640
about the abductive logic? Did
 

4605
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,750
about the abductive logic? Did
What do you what do you say what do you

4606
01:18:36,750 --> 01:18:36,760
What do you what do you say what do you
 

4607
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,470
What do you what do you say what do you
respond to that? Yeah, you're talking

4608
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:38,480
respond to that? Yeah, you're talking
 

4609
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:40,470
respond to that? Yeah, you're talking
about the umbrella did it rain or did

4610
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:40,480
about the umbrella did it rain or did
 

4611
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,190
about the umbrella did it rain or did
the kid throw it with a hose? It doesn't

4612
01:18:42,190 --> 01:18:42,200
the kid throw it with a hose? It doesn't
 

4613
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,390
the kid throw it with a hose? It doesn't
work because you're you're taking one

4614
01:18:45,390 --> 01:18:45,400
work because you're you're taking one
 

4615
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,430
work because you're you're taking one
one inference that has no evidence

4616
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:47,440
one inference that has no evidence
 

4617
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,070
one inference that has no evidence
whatsoever except for a book that you

4618
01:18:49,070 --> 01:18:49,080
whatsoever except for a book that you
 

4619
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,390
whatsoever except for a book that you
blind have blind faith in versus the

4620
01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:51,400
blind have blind faith in versus the
 

4621
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,870
blind have blind faith in versus the
entire body of scientific knowledge.

4622
01:18:53,870 --> 01:18:53,880
entire body of scientific knowledge.
 

4623
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,110
entire body of scientific knowledge.
>> Wait wait wait, I don't have blind

4624
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:55,120
>> Wait wait wait, I don't have blind
 

4625
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,270
>> Wait wait wait, I don't have blind
faith.

4626
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:56,280
faith.
 

4627
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:56,550
faith.
Hold

4628
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:56,560
Hold
 

4629
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:57,670
Hold
>> Hold on hold on hold on a sec. Hold on a

4630
01:18:57,670 --> 01:18:57,680
>> Hold on hold on hold on a sec. Hold on a
 

4631
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:58,830
>> Hold on hold on hold on a sec. Hold on a
sec. Maybe you don't.

4632
01:18:58,830 --> 01:18:58,840
sec. Maybe you don't.
 

4633
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,950
sec. Maybe you don't.
>> Now this is the this is the other

4634
01:18:59,950 --> 01:18:59,960
>> Now this is the this is the other
 

4635
01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:02,270
>> Now this is the this is the other
problem with this is that Derek, he

4636
01:19:02,270 --> 01:19:02,280
problem with this is that Derek, he
 

4637
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,470
problem with this is that Derek, he
comes at the at the resurrection story.

4638
01:19:05,470 --> 01:19:05,480
comes at the at the resurrection story.
 

4639
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:06,830
comes at the at the resurrection story.
Which is another which is a very

4640
01:19:06,830 --> 01:19:06,840
Which is another which is a very
 

4641
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:11,110
Which is another which is a very
strongly evidenced No. No, it isn't. It

4642
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:11,120
strongly evidenced No. No, it isn't. It
 

4643
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,030
strongly evidenced No. No, it isn't. It
isn't. [laughter]

4644
01:19:12,030 --> 01:19:12,040
isn't. [laughter]
 

4645
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,550
isn't. [laughter]
No no it's very strong. Excuse me. It's

4646
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:14,560
No no it's very strong. Excuse me. It's
 

4647
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,190
No no it's very strong. Excuse me. It's
really not though. This is the this is

4648
01:19:16,190 --> 01:19:16,200
really not though. This is the this is
 

4649
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,990
really not though. This is the this is
the thing. Because Derek has this kind

4650
01:19:18,990 --> 01:19:19,000
the thing. Because Derek has this kind
 

4651
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:19,950
the thing. Because Derek has this kind
of

4652
01:19:19,950 --> 01:19:19,960
of
 

4653
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,830
of
naturalistic animal view

4654
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:21,840
naturalistic animal view
 

4655
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,430
naturalistic animal view
>> with the book, bro. You're No no I'm not

4656
01:19:24,430 --> 01:19:24,440
>> with the book, bro. You're No no I'm not
 

4657
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:25,630
>> with the book, bro. You're No no I'm not
saying the book I'm not saying the book

4658
01:19:25,630 --> 01:19:25,640
saying the book I'm not saying the book
 

4659
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,550
saying the book I'm not saying the book
the the book is historical evidence in

4660
01:19:27,550 --> 01:19:27,560
the the book is historical evidence in
 

4661
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,550
the the book is historical evidence in
itself and that's the I'm not denying

4662
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:29,560
itself and that's the I'm not denying
 

4663
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,110
itself and that's the I'm not denying
religious scripture is not a historical

4664
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:31,120
religious scripture is not a historical
 

4665
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,390
religious scripture is not a historical
document not it's not a purely

4666
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:32,400
document not it's not a purely
 

4667
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,150
document not it's not a purely
historical document. I'm not saying it's

4668
01:19:34,150 --> 01:19:34,160
historical document. I'm not saying it's
 

4669
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,950
historical document. I'm not saying it's
purely historical but even like

4670
01:19:35,950 --> 01:19:35,960
purely historical but even like
 

4671
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,590
purely historical but even like
historians of the period acknowledge

4672
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:37,600
historians of the period acknowledge
 

4673
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,070
historians of the period acknowledge
certain things right? We understand

4674
01:19:39,070 --> 01:19:39,080
certain things right? We understand
 

4675
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,070
certain things right? We understand
>> existed this person existed it doesn't

4676
01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:41,080
>> existed this person existed it doesn't
 

4677
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,630
>> existed this person existed it doesn't
mean something happened.

4678
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:42,640
mean something happened.
 

4679
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,150
mean something happened.
>> no, wait, wait, wait don't stop there

4680
01:19:44,150 --> 01:19:44,160
>> no, wait, wait, wait don't stop there
 

4681
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,310
>> no, wait, wait, wait don't stop there
Jesus existed Jesus was crucified.

4682
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:46,320
Jesus existed Jesus was crucified.
 

4683
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,870
Jesus existed Jesus was crucified.
Uh-huh. The

4684
01:19:47,870 --> 01:19:47,880
Uh-huh. The
 

4685
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,990
Uh-huh. The
excuse me the no it's highly well almost

4686
01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:51,000
excuse me the no it's highly well almost
 

4687
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,630
excuse me the no it's highly well almost
all of the scholars of the period agree

4688
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:52,640
all of the scholars of the period agree
 

4689
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,550
all of the scholars of the period agree
with this. Yeah. And then also Probably

4690
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:54,560
with this. Yeah. And then also Probably
 

4691
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,150
with this. Yeah. And then also Probably
they do they say that

4692
01:19:56,150 --> 01:19:56,160
they do they say that
 

4693
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,990
they do they say that
>> excuse me they also agree that the

4694
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:58,000
>> excuse me they also agree that the
 

4695
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,870
>> excuse me they also agree that the
disciples sort of um

4696
01:20:00,870 --> 01:20:00,880
disciples sort of um
 

4697
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,110
disciples sort of um
Well the disciples

4698
01:20:02,110 --> 01:20:02,120
Well the disciples
 

4699
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,310
Well the disciples
>> What's this got TO DO WITH ADAM AND EVE

4700
01:20:03,310 --> 01:20:03,320
>> What's this got TO DO WITH ADAM AND EVE
 

4701
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,990
>> What's this got TO DO WITH ADAM AND EVE
THOUGH? Like why are we running I'm

4702
01:20:04,990 --> 01:20:05,000
THOUGH? Like why are we running I'm
 

4703
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,070
THOUGH? Like why are we running I'm
pointing out that if if it is true that

4704
01:20:07,070 --> 01:20:07,080
pointing out that if if it is true that
 

4705
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,710
pointing out that if if it is true that
Jesus rose from the dead and there is

4706
01:20:08,710 --> 01:20:08,720
Jesus rose from the dead and there is
 

4707
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,950
Jesus rose from the dead and there is
evidence to believe that

4708
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:10,960
evidence to believe that
 

4709
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,670
evidence to believe that
then then there's reason to believe that

4710
01:20:12,670 --> 01:20:12,680
then then there's reason to believe that
 

4711
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,870
then then there's reason to believe that
the Bible is true. Okay. So there isn't

4712
01:20:15,870 --> 01:20:15,880
the Bible is true. Okay. So there isn't
 

4713
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,150
the Bible is true. Okay. So there isn't
but there isn't any evidence for that

4714
01:20:17,150 --> 01:20:17,160
but there isn't any evidence for that
 

4715
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,190
but there isn't any evidence for that
it's just a book says a thing. I'm

4716
01:20:19,190 --> 01:20:19,200
it's just a book says a thing. I'm
 

4717
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,790
it's just a book says a thing. I'm
sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

4718
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:20,800
sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
 

4719
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,030
sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, what are we talking about? The

4720
01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:22,040
wait, what are we talking about? The
 

4721
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,310
wait, what are we talking about? The
evidence for Jesus or the evidence for

4722
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:24,320
evidence for Jesus or the evidence for
 

4723
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,790
evidence for Jesus or the evidence for
Any of it. Wait, wait. All biblical

4724
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:26,800
Any of it. Wait, wait. All biblical
 

4725
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,750
Any of it. Wait, wait. All biblical
literalism is some book says a thing.

4726
01:20:28,750 --> 01:20:28,760
literalism is some book says a thing.
 

4727
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,590
literalism is some book says a thing.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

4728
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:29,600
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
 

4729
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,630
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait. What in the

4730
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:30,640
wait, wait, wait, wait. What in the
 

4731
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,230
wait, wait, wait, wait. What in the
world

4732
01:20:31,230 --> 01:20:31,240
world
 

4733
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,990
world
>> any of it? We just established that

4734
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:34,000
>> any of it? We just established that
 

4735
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,390
>> any of it? We just established that
even secular scholars agree that Jesus

4736
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:36,400
even secular scholars agree that Jesus
 

4737
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,910
even secular scholars agree that Jesus
>> Okay, I'm talking about supernatural I'm

4738
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:37,920
>> Okay, I'm talking about supernatural I'm
 

4739
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,550
>> Okay, I'm talking about supernatural I'm
talking about supernatural claims not

4740
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:40,560
talking about supernatural claims not
 

4741
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,310
talking about supernatural claims not
there was a guy named Jesus of Nazareth.

4742
01:20:43,310 --> 01:20:43,320
there was a guy named Jesus of Nazareth.
 

4743
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,350
there was a guy named Jesus of Nazareth.
But that's what I'm saying you can't

4744
01:20:44,350 --> 01:20:44,360
But that's what I'm saying you can't
 

4745
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,110
But that's what I'm saying you can't
just deny supernatural claims. I can't

4746
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:47,120
just deny supernatural claims. I can't
 

4747
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,310
just deny supernatural claims. I can't
because there's no evidence for them

4748
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:48,320
because there's no evidence for them
 

4749
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:49,550
because there's no evidence for them
other than some book says a thing.

4750
01:20:49,550 --> 01:20:49,560
other than some book says a thing.
 

4751
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:50,590
other than some book says a thing.
>> there is evidence for them.

4752
01:20:50,590 --> 01:20:50,600
>> there is evidence for them.
 

4753
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,750
>> there is evidence for them.
>> What is the evidence other than a text?

4754
01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:52,760
>> What is the evidence other than a text?
 

4755
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,670
>> What is the evidence other than a text?
What is the evidence other than a text

4756
01:20:54,670 --> 01:20:54,680
What is the evidence other than a text
 

4757
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,430
What is the evidence other than a text
says something? What is what is that

4758
01:20:56,430 --> 01:20:56,440
says something? What is what is that
 

4759
01:20:56,440 --> 01:20:58,950
says something? What is what is that
evidence? Well the evidence for any

4760
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:58,960
evidence? Well the evidence for any
 

4761
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,710
evidence? Well the evidence for any
ancient event is that a text says

4762
01:21:00,710 --> 01:21:00,720
ancient event is that a text says
 

4763
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:01,230
ancient event is that a text says
something.

4764
01:21:01,230 --> 01:21:01,240
something.
 

4765
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,830
something.
>> Right, right, but that's my point. Other

4766
01:21:02,830 --> 01:21:02,840
>> Right, right, but that's my point. Other
 

4767
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,230
>> Right, right, but that's my point. Other
than You have to corroborate with many

4768
01:21:05,230 --> 01:21:05,240
than You have to corroborate with many
 

4769
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:05,590
than You have to corroborate with many
sources.

4770
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:05,600
sources.
 

4771
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,990
sources.
>> these are four different gospel accounts

4772
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:08,000
>> these are four different gospel accounts
 

4773
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,390
>> these are four different gospel accounts
also Paul's writings also other

4774
01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:11,400
also Paul's writings also other
 

4775
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,310
also Paul's writings also other
non non-Christian writers of this period

4776
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:14,320
non non-Christian writers of this period
 

4777
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,150
non non-Christian writers of this period
discuss the resurrection or the discuss

4778
01:21:17,150 --> 01:21:17,160
discuss the resurrection or the discuss
 

4779
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,190
discuss the resurrection or the discuss
the the Christian notion of a

4780
01:21:19,190 --> 01:21:19,200
the the Christian notion of a
 

4781
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,150
the the Christian notion of a
resurrection.

4782
01:21:20,150 --> 01:21:20,160
resurrection.
 

4783
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,150
resurrection.
>> That Christians believe in this Yeah

4784
01:21:22,150 --> 01:21:22,160
>> That Christians believe in this Yeah
 

4785
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,190
>> That Christians believe in this Yeah
that's what they're saying yeah well the

4786
01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:23,200
that's what they're saying yeah well the
 

4787
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,110
that's what they're saying yeah well the
fact that those Christians believe that

4788
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:25,120
fact that those Christians believe that
 

4789
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,590
fact that those Christians believe that
I mean like I said I don't know we got

4790
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:26,600
I mean like I said I don't know we got
 

4791
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,550
I mean like I said I don't know we got
off topic from I knew we were going to

4792
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:28,560
off topic from I knew we were going to
 

4793
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,910
off topic from I knew we were going to
go here that's why I'm like what's this

4794
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:29,920
go here that's why I'm like what's this
 

4795
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:30,910
go here that's why I'm like what's this
got to do with Adam and Eve but your

4796
01:21:30,910 --> 01:21:30,920
got to do with Adam and Eve but your
 

4797
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,870
got to do with Adam and Eve but your
point is to just say I think it's

4798
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:32,880
point is to just say I think it's
 

4799
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:33,950
point is to just say I think it's
reliable and if I can believe the

4800
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:33,960
reliable and if I can believe the
 

4801
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,070
reliable and if I can believe the
resurrection then that makes the Bible

4802
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:36,080
resurrection then that makes the Bible
 

4803
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,110
resurrection then that makes the Bible
>> That makes science not true.

4804
01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:38,120
>> That makes science not true.
 

4805
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,950
>> That makes science not true.
Right. At the end of the day. No I'm not

4806
01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:39,960
Right. At the end of the day. No I'm not
 

4807
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,390
Right. At the end of the day. No I'm not
saying I'm not saying I don't think

4808
01:21:41,390 --> 01:21:41,400
saying I'm not saying I don't think
 

4809
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,950
saying I'm not saying I don't think
science is not true. What I'm saying is

4810
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:42,960
science is not true. What I'm saying is
 

4811
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,950
science is not true. What I'm saying is
that But biblical literalism requires

4812
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:45,960
that But biblical literalism requires
 

4813
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,550
that But biblical literalism requires
science to not be true. You got to

4814
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:47,560
science to not be true. You got to
 

4815
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,750
science to not be true. You got to
filter science No, no, no, no, wait,

4816
01:21:48,750 --> 01:21:48,760
filter science No, no, no, no, wait,
 

4817
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,670
filter science No, no, no, no, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

4818
01:21:49,670 --> 01:21:49,680
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
 

4819
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,950
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, first of all

4820
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:50,960
wait, wait, wait, wait, first of all
 

4821
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,470
wait, wait, wait, wait, first of all
there are stronger claims in science

4822
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:52,480
there are stronger claims in science
 

4823
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,390
there are stronger claims in science
than others. For example

4824
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:54,400
than others. For example
 

4825
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,750
than others. For example
there's there's science that we can

4826
01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:55,760
there's there's science that we can
 

4827
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,430
there's there's science that we can
observe in the present and there's

4828
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:57,440
observe in the present and there's
 

4829
01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:58,830
observe in the present and there's
science that's historical.

4830
01:21:58,830 --> 01:21:58,840
science that's historical.
 

4831
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,910
science that's historical.
>> Don't do it don't do the Ken Ham thing

4832
01:22:00,910 --> 01:22:00,920
>> Don't do it don't do the Ken Ham thing
 

4833
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,270
>> Don't do it don't do the Ken Ham thing
we were just making fun of this earlier

4834
01:22:02,270 --> 01:22:02,280
we were just making fun of this earlier
 

4835
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,390
we were just making fun of this earlier
in the stream.

4836
01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:03,400
in the stream.
 

4837
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,910
in the stream.
I Wait, there's hold on, hold on don't

4838
01:22:04,910 --> 01:22:04,920
I Wait, there's hold on, hold on don't
 

4839
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,310
I Wait, there's hold on, hold on don't
just say it's the Ken Ham thing. There's

4840
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:06,320
just say it's the Ken Ham thing. There's
 

4841
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,870
just say it's the Ken Ham thing. There's
a reasonable distinction.

4842
01:22:07,870 --> 01:22:07,880
a reasonable distinction.
 

4843
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,390
a reasonable distinction.
>> There's no reasonable distinction to be

4844
01:22:09,390 --> 01:22:09,400
>> There's no reasonable distinction to be
 

4845
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,110
>> There's no reasonable distinction to be
made. It's not a reasonable distinction.

4846
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:11,120
made. It's not a reasonable distinction.
 

4847
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,670
made. It's not a reasonable distinction.
>> it is of course

4848
01:22:12,670 --> 01:22:12,680
>> it is of course
 

4849
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,710
>> it is of course
hold on a second hold on a second. Okay,

4850
01:22:14,710 --> 01:22:14,720
hold on a second hold on a second. Okay,
 

4851
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,030
hold on a second hold on a second. Okay,
say your thing and then I'll mock you

4852
01:22:16,030 --> 01:22:16,040
say your thing and then I'll mock you
 

4853
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:16,790
say your thing and then I'll mock you
for it. I'm sorry.

4854
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:16,800
for it. I'm sorry.
 

4855
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,670
for it. I'm sorry.
>> Let's let's distinguish between these

4856
01:22:18,670 --> 01:22:18,680
>> Let's let's distinguish between these
 

4857
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,110
>> Let's let's distinguish between these
two types of logic being used here.

4858
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:21,120
two types of logic being used here.
 

4859
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,830
two types of logic being used here.
Inductive versus abductive right?

4860
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:23,840
Inductive versus abductive right?
 

4861
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,630
Inductive versus abductive right?
So [snorts] as as we discussed just now

4862
01:22:26,630 --> 01:22:26,640
So [snorts] as as we discussed just now
 

4863
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,630
So [snorts] as as we discussed just now
abductive logic if you have this other

4864
01:22:29,630 --> 01:22:29,640
abductive logic if you have this other
 

4865
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,950
abductive logic if you have this other
data that you're not aware of it can

4866
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:30,960
data that you're not aware of it can
 

4867
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,910
data that you're not aware of it can
completely change the picture. Whereas

4868
01:22:32,910 --> 01:22:32,920
completely change the picture. Whereas
 

4869
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,310
completely change the picture. Whereas
induction where we when you have an

4870
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:34,320
induction where we when you have an
 

4871
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,870
induction where we when you have an
experiment

4872
01:22:35,870 --> 01:22:35,880
experiment
 

4873
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,510
experiment
that's a much difficult it's much more

4874
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:37,520
that's a much difficult it's much more
 

4875
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,870
that's a much difficult it's much more
probable

4876
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:38,880
probable
 

4877
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,750
probable
uh conclusions you can make right? So

4878
01:22:40,750 --> 01:22:40,760
uh conclusions you can make right? So
 

4879
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,950
uh conclusions you can make right? So
that's a real distinction and we can

4880
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:42,960
that's a real distinction and we can
 

4881
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,030
that's a real distinction and we can
make that distinction in science and

4882
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:45,040
make that distinction in science and
 

4883
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,710
make that distinction in science and
denying science.

4884
01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:45,720
denying science.
 

4885
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,990
denying science.
>> when you are assessing things that

4886
01:22:46,990 --> 01:22:47,000
>> when you are assessing things that
 

4887
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,590
>> when you are assessing things that
happened in the past you create models

4888
01:22:48,590 --> 01:22:48,600
happened in the past you create models
 

4889
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,310
happened in the past you create models
to explain data and those models make

4890
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:50,320
to explain data and those models make
 

4891
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,030
to explain data and those models make
predictions and then you can compare

4892
01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:52,040
predictions and then you can compare
 

4893
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,790
predictions and then you can compare
those predictions to further data that

4894
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:53,800
those predictions to further data that
 

4895
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:54,270
those predictions to further data that
you

4896
01:22:54,270 --> 01:22:54,280
you
 

4897
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,750
you
>> I agree I agree. Then you collect so

4898
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:55,760
>> I agree I agree. Then you collect so
 

4899
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,990
>> I agree I agree. Then you collect so
that's like we were talking earlier

4900
01:22:56,990 --> 01:22:57,000
that's like we were talking earlier
 

4901
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,430
that's like we were talking earlier
about biogeography where if if

4902
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:59,440
about biogeography where if if
 

4903
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,190
about biogeography where if if
evolutionary biology the timeline is

4904
01:23:01,190 --> 01:23:01,200
evolutionary biology the timeline is
 

4905
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,870
evolutionary biology the timeline is
true and plate tectonics etc. When we

4906
01:23:03,870 --> 01:23:03,880
true and plate tectonics etc. When we
 

4907
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,110
true and plate tectonics etc. When we
find these fossils in this region we

4908
01:23:06,110 --> 01:23:06,120
find these fossils in this region we
 

4909
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,190
find these fossils in this region we
then predict that the continents were

4910
01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:08,200
then predict that the continents were
 

4911
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,270
then predict that the continents were
together we should find those same

4912
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:09,280
together we should find those same
 

4913
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,270
together we should find those same
fossils right here. We go and dig and

4914
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:11,280
fossils right here. We go and dig and
 

4915
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,510
fossils right here. We go and dig and
look and we find them right? That's not

4916
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:13,520
look and we find them right? That's not
 

4917
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:14,990
look and we find them right? That's not
something where we're we're

4918
01:23:14,990 --> 01:23:15,000
something where we're we're
 

4919
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,630
something where we're we're
pontificating on something historically

4920
01:23:16,630 --> 01:23:16,640
pontificating on something historically
 

4921
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,910
pontificating on something historically
that's really rigid empirical science

4922
01:23:18,910 --> 01:23:18,920
that's really rigid empirical science
 

4923
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,750
that's really rigid empirical science
where predictions are vindicated which

4924
01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:20,760
where predictions are vindicated which
 

4925
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,910
where predictions are vindicated which
which vindicate a model. Yeah but that's

4926
01:23:22,910 --> 01:23:22,920
which vindicate a model. Yeah but that's
 

4927
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,110
which vindicate a model. Yeah but that's
the predictive nature of it. That

4928
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:25,120
the predictive nature of it. That
 

4929
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,670
the predictive nature of it. That
predictive nature of it is what I think

4930
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:26,680
predictive nature of it is what I think
 

4931
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:27,830
predictive nature of it is what I think
is very powerful.

4932
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:27,840
is very powerful.
 

4933
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,150
is very powerful.
Toronto

4934
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:29,160
Toronto
 

4935
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,950
Toronto
real quick Toronto or Toronto we have 4

4936
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:30,960
real quick Toronto or Toronto we have 4
 

4937
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,030
real quick Toronto or Toronto we have 4
minutes left Dave. You had one guy in

4938
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:33,040
minutes left Dave. You had one guy in
 

4939
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,790
minutes left Dave. You had one guy in
the back that was waiting to try and

4940
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:34,800
the back that was waiting to try and
 

4941
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,750
the back that was waiting to try and
come on but we have 4 minutes and a few

4942
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:36,760
come on but we have 4 minutes and a few
 

4943
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,710
come on but we have 4 minutes and a few
super chats I have to get before we say

4944
01:23:38,710 --> 01:23:38,720
super chats I have to get before we say
 

4945
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,510
super chats I have to get before we say
goodbye. Toronto I have to let you go. I

4946
01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:41,520
goodbye. Toronto I have to let you go. I
 

4947
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:42,830
goodbye. Toronto I have to let you go. I
wish you had came in earlier we could

4948
01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:42,840
wish you had came in earlier we could
 

4949
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,910
wish you had came in earlier we could
have done this sooner.

4950
01:23:44,910 --> 01:23:44,920
have done this sooner.
 

4951
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,830
have done this sooner.
But I I really appreciate it. Hey don't

4952
01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:46,840
But I I really appreciate it. Hey don't
 

4953
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,710
But I I really appreciate it. Hey don't
worry we're going to do more.

4954
01:23:49,710 --> 01:23:49,720
worry we're going to do more.
 

4955
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,590
worry we're going to do more.
I appreciate that that was at least

4956
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:51,600
I appreciate that that was at least
 

4957
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,830
I appreciate that that was at least
pretty respectable so thank you.

4958
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:53,840
pretty respectable so thank you.
 

4959
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,190
pretty respectable so thank you.
Have a nice thanks Toronto. Have a good

4960
01:23:55,190 --> 01:23:55,200
Have a nice thanks Toronto. Have a good
 

4961
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,990
Have a nice thanks Toronto. Have a good
one. Yeah Toronto's a he's a

4962
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:58,000
one. Yeah Toronto's a he's a
 

4963
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,630
one. Yeah Toronto's a he's a
a usual you know what I mean he comes

4964
01:23:59,630 --> 01:23:59,640
a usual you know what I mean he comes
 

4965
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,630
a usual you know what I mean he comes
back all the time. Um we do have one

4966
01:24:01,630 --> 01:24:01,640
back all the time. Um we do have one
 

4967
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,590
back all the time. Um we do have one
person in the back I don't know if you

4968
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:03,600
person in the back I don't know if you
 

4969
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,830
person in the back I don't know if you
with 4 minutes left we're probably too

4970
01:24:04,830 --> 01:24:04,840
with 4 minutes left we're probably too
 

4971
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,590
with 4 minutes left we're probably too
late now 3 minutes. If you have to read

4972
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:06,600
late now 3 minutes. If you have to read
 

4973
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,110
late now 3 minutes. If you have to read
super chats I mean I I don't want to

4974
01:24:08,110 --> 01:24:08,120
super chats I mean I I don't want to
 

4975
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,430
super chats I mean I I don't want to
like start something and then be like I

4976
01:24:10,430 --> 01:24:10,440
like start something and then be like I
 

4977
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:11,990
like start something and then be like I
have to get you know what I mean. Yeah,

4978
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:12,000
have to get you know what I mean. Yeah,
 

4979
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,390
have to get you know what I mean. Yeah,
yeah, yeah should I read the super chats

4980
01:24:13,390 --> 01:24:13,400
yeah, yeah should I read the super chats
 

4981
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,230
yeah, yeah should I read the super chats
real quick or

4982
01:24:15,230 --> 01:24:15,240
real quick or
 

4983
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,390
real quick or
Whatever you want to do you know what I

4984
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:16,400
Whatever you want to do you know what I
 

4985
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,030
Whatever you want to do you know what I
mean. Cuz I don't want to I don't want

4986
01:24:18,030 --> 01:24:18,040
mean. Cuz I don't want to I don't want
 

4987
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,990
mean. Cuz I don't want to I don't want
to abuse your time. Okay you Yeah I just

4988
01:24:20,990 --> 01:24:21,000
to abuse your time. Okay you Yeah I just
 

4989
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,990
to abuse your time. Okay you Yeah I just
I kind of got to got to jet in a minute

4990
01:24:22,990 --> 01:24:23,000
I kind of got to got to jet in a minute
 

4991
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,070
I kind of got to got to jet in a minute
but uh Yeah let's just do super chats

4992
01:24:25,070 --> 01:24:25,080
but uh Yeah let's just do super chats
 

4993
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,630
but uh Yeah let's just do super chats
then. Look I I I don't want to keep you

4994
01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:26,640
then. Look I I I don't want to keep you
 

4995
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,390
then. Look I I I don't want to keep you
long and that's why either way I was

4996
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:28,400
long and that's why either way I was
 

4997
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,830
long and that's why either way I was
going to have to tell Toronto later on

4998
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:29,840
going to have to tell Toronto later on
 

4999
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,270
going to have to tell Toronto later on
anyway. I do appreciate that he's a much

5000
01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:32,280
anyway. I do appreciate that he's a much
 

5001
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,510
anyway. I do appreciate that he's a much
more um That was civil I mean like he

5002
01:24:36,510 --> 01:24:36,520
more um That was civil I mean like he
 

5003
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,190
more um That was civil I mean like he
has he has objectively fallacious

5004
01:24:39,190 --> 01:24:39,200
has he has objectively fallacious
 

5005
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,310
has he has objectively fallacious
reasoning and positions but like you

5006
01:24:41,310 --> 01:24:41,320
reasoning and positions but like you
 

5007
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,910
reasoning and positions but like you
know I was able to explain things and he

5008
01:24:42,910 --> 01:24:42,920
know I was able to explain things and he
 

5009
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,590
know I was able to explain things and he
didn't flip out and

5010
01:24:44,590 --> 01:24:44,600
didn't flip out and
 

5011
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,750
didn't flip out and
you know ultimately I don't think he

5012
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:45,760
you know ultimately I don't think he
 

5013
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,830
you know ultimately I don't think he
changed his position at all but you know

5014
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:47,840
changed his position at all but you know
 

5015
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,670
changed his position at all but you know
we didn't it didn't escalate I mean this

5016
01:24:50,670 --> 01:24:50,680
we didn't it didn't escalate I mean this
 

5017
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,750
we didn't it didn't escalate I mean this
thing of like me like I I don't escalate

5018
01:24:52,750 --> 01:24:52,760
thing of like me like I I don't escalate
 

5019
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,310
thing of like me like I I don't escalate
right? When other people escalate and

5020
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:54,320
right? When other people escalate and
 

5021
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,670
right? When other people escalate and
then I respond you know? He didn't

5022
01:24:55,670 --> 01:24:55,680
then I respond you know? He didn't
 

5023
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,070
then I respond you know? He didn't
escalate so I didn't escalate it's fine.

5024
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:58,080
escalate so I didn't escalate it's fine.
 

5025
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,110
escalate so I didn't escalate it's fine.
Exactly. Valena thank you so much I hope

5026
01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:00,120
Exactly. Valena thank you so much I hope
 

5027
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,670
Exactly. Valena thank you so much I hope
I said your name right. Thanks for the

5028
01:25:01,670 --> 01:25:01,680
I said your name right. Thanks for the
 

5029
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,630
I said your name right. Thanks for the
super chat. My question was can it be

5030
01:25:03,630 --> 01:25:03,640
super chat. My question was can it be
 

5031
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,150
super chat. My question was can it be
that atheists fear to be punished for

5032
01:25:05,150 --> 01:25:05,160
that atheists fear to be punished for
 

5033
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,390
that atheists fear to be punished for
their sins and they deny greater power

5034
01:25:07,390 --> 01:25:07,400
their sins and they deny greater power
 

5035
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,550
their sins and they deny greater power
because it's safer and safer to continue

5036
01:25:09,550 --> 01:25:09,560
because it's safer and safer to continue
 

5037
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:10,990
because it's safer and safer to continue
sin?

5038
01:25:10,990 --> 01:25:11,000
sin?
 

5039
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,790
sin?
It's not up to us if we get punished for

5040
01:25:13,790 --> 01:25:13,800
It's not up to us if we get punished for
 

5041
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,550
It's not up to us if we get punished for
the sins of you know

5042
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:16,560
the sins of you know
 

5043
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,030
the sins of you know
what do you mean? Like us continuing to

5044
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:18,040
what do you mean? Like us continuing to
 

5045
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,510
what do you mean? Like us continuing to
sin is going to absolve us of sin

5046
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:19,520
sin is going to absolve us of sin
 

5047
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,390
sin is going to absolve us of sin
somehow? I don't understand.

5048
01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:21,400
somehow? I don't understand.
 

5049
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,590
somehow? I don't understand.
Yeah I think it sounds almost like they

5050
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:23,600
Yeah I think it sounds almost like they
 

5051
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,070
Yeah I think it sounds almost like they
don't want to believe cuz they want to

5052
01:25:25,070 --> 01:25:25,080
don't want to believe cuz they want to
 

5053
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,510
don't want to believe cuz they want to
keep sinning or something I'm not really

5054
01:25:26,510 --> 01:25:26,520
keep sinning or something I'm not really
 

5055
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,110
keep sinning or something I'm not really
sure like

5056
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:27,120
sure like
 

5057
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,030
sure like
>> Yeah I mean you're going to have to

5058
01:25:28,030 --> 01:25:28,040
>> Yeah I mean you're going to have to
 

5059
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,350
>> Yeah I mean you're going to have to
convince me that I sin first.

5060
01:25:30,350 --> 01:25:30,360
convince me that I sin first.
 

5061
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,390
convince me that I sin first.
Sorry you know not not believing in your

5062
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:32,400
Sorry you know not not believing in your
 

5063
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,590
Sorry you know not not believing in your
deity is not a sin to me so I don't uh

5064
01:25:36,590 --> 01:25:36,600
deity is not a sin to me so I don't uh
 

5065
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,750
deity is not a sin to me so I don't uh
Mhm. Yeah thank you. Victor Engelman

5066
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:39,760
Mhm. Yeah thank you. Victor Engelman
 

5067
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,950
Mhm. Yeah thank you. Victor Engelman
fording yacht. Uh

5068
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:42,960
fording yacht. Uh
 

5069
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,110
fording yacht. Uh
I don't know if this is a source kinds

5070
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:45,120
I don't know if this is a source kinds
 

5071
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,670
I don't know if this is a source kinds
water underground flying running grazing

5072
01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:47,680
water underground flying running grazing
 

5073
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,830
water underground flying running grazing
Genesis 1:21-24 fouls water cattle

5074
01:25:50,830 --> 01:25:50,840
Genesis 1:21-24 fouls water cattle
 

5075
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,030
Genesis 1:21-24 fouls water cattle
creeping beast sucking hoven. Yeah.

5076
01:25:54,030 --> 01:25:54,040
creeping beast sucking hoven. Yeah.
 

5077
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,910
creeping beast sucking hoven. Yeah.
Yeah the creeping kind what the [\h__\h] is

5078
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:55,920
Yeah the creeping kind what the [\h__\h] is
 

5079
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,864
Yeah the creeping kind what the [\h__\h] is
that?

5080
01:25:56,864 --> 01:25:56,870
that?
 

5081
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:56,874

 

5082
01:25:56,874 --> 01:25:56,880

>> [laughter]

5083
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,630
>> [laughter]
>> What is the creeping kind right? A

5084
01:25:58,630 --> 01:25:58,640
>> What is the creeping kind right? A
 

5085
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,230
>> What is the creeping kind right? A
millipede and then a a lizard too? I

5086
01:26:01,230 --> 01:26:01,240
millipede and then a a lizard too? I
 

5087
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,414
millipede and then a a lizard too? I
don't know like what what is it?

5088
01:26:03,414 --> 01:26:03,424
don't know like what what is it?
 

5089
01:26:03,424 --> 01:26:03,710
don't know like what what is it?
>> [laughter]

5090
01:26:03,710 --> 01:26:03,720
>> [laughter]
 

5091
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,390
>> [laughter]
>> Thank you Victor and then Alex Lipton

5092
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:06,400
>> Thank you Victor and then Alex Lipton
 

5093
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,310
>> Thank you Victor and then Alex Lipton
universe thank you so much. I read the

5094
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:08,320
universe thank you so much. I read the
 

5095
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,470
universe thank you so much. I read the
line The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe

5096
01:26:09,470 --> 01:26:09,480
line The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe
 

5097
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:11,350
line The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe
which means there's evidence there's a

5098
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:11,360
which means there's evidence there's a
 

5099
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,430
which means there's evidence there's a
magical wardrobe in history facts.

5100
01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:14,440
magical wardrobe in history facts.
 

5101
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:16,790
magical wardrobe in history facts.
Um I use Harry Potter as my go-to it's

5102
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:16,800
Um I use Harry Potter as my go-to it's
 

5103
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,550
Um I use Harry Potter as my go-to it's
like look some book says a thing it's

5104
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:18,560
like look some book says a thing it's
 

5105
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,230
like look some book says a thing it's
just not going to cut it man I'm sorry.

5106
01:26:22,230 --> 01:26:22,240
just not going to cut it man I'm sorry.
 

5107
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,670
just not going to cut it man I'm sorry.
Even when they go to like cuz I know

5108
01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:23,680
Even when they go to like cuz I know
 

5109
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,790
Even when they go to like cuz I know
this field really a lot they'll go to

5110
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:25,800
this field really a lot they'll go to
 

5111
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,710
this field really a lot they'll go to
the word Roman Greco-Roman bio

5112
01:26:28,710 --> 01:26:28,720
the word Roman Greco-Roman bio
 

5113
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,630
the word Roman Greco-Roman bio
talking about it's biography but when

5114
01:26:30,630 --> 01:26:30,640
talking about it's biography but when
 

5115
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,270
talking about it's biography but when
you go and read what Greco-Roman

5116
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:32,280
you go and read what Greco-Roman
 

5117
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,110
you go and read what Greco-Roman
biography had not only were historical

5118
01:26:34,110 --> 01:26:34,120
biography had not only were historical
 

5119
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,390
biography had not only were historical
people fully legendized like they made

5120
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:36,400
people fully legendized like they made
 

5121
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,150
people fully legendized like they made
up speeches for them they invented a lot

5122
01:26:38,150 --> 01:26:38,160
up speeches for them they invented a lot
 

5123
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,910
up speeches for them they invented a lot
of fiction about them but they even

5124
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:39,920
of fiction about them but they even
 

5125
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,590
of fiction about them but they even
wrote biographies in the same genre the

5126
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:41,600
wrote biographies in the same genre the
 

5127
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,030
wrote biographies in the same genre the
Gospels are about mythical people who

5128
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:43,040
Gospels are about mythical people who
 

5129
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,990
Gospels are about mythical people who
never existed. So it doesn't determine

5130
01:26:44,990 --> 01:26:45,000
never existed. So it doesn't determine
 

5131
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,030
never existed. So it doesn't determine
anything about history at all. No you

5132
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:47,040
anything about history at all. No you
 

5133
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,550
anything about history at all. No you
you have to you you find Egyptian texts

5134
01:26:49,550 --> 01:26:49,560
you have to you you find Egyptian texts
 

5135
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,710
you have to you you find Egyptian texts
and Assyrian texts and Babylonian texts

5136
01:26:51,710 --> 01:26:51,720
and Assyrian texts and Babylonian texts
 

5137
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,150
and Assyrian texts and Babylonian texts
that all like corroborate a particular

5138
01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:54,160
that all like corroborate a particular
 

5139
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,510
that all like corroborate a particular
thing happening and you have different

5140
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:55,520
thing happening and you have different
 

5141
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,030
thing happening and you have different
thing you know can be very clinically

5142
01:26:58,030 --> 01:26:58,040
thing you know can be very clinically
 

5143
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,590
thing you know can be very clinically
just like oh this happened you know like

5144
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:00,600
just like oh this happened you know like
 

5145
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,270
just like oh this happened you know like
I'm not a I'm not a even a historian and

5146
01:27:02,270 --> 01:27:02,280
I'm not a I'm not a even a historian and
 

5147
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,590
I'm not a I'm not a even a historian and
I know that you have to like corroborate

5148
01:27:04,590 --> 01:27:04,600
I know that you have to like corroborate
 

5149
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,110
I know that you have to like corroborate
with multiple sources to believe that

5150
01:27:06,110 --> 01:27:06,120
with multiple sources to believe that
 

5151
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,790
with multiple sources to believe that
that thing happened you know.

5152
01:27:07,790 --> 01:27:07,800
that thing happened you know.
 

5153
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,990
that thing happened you know.
Exactly exactly. Hey everybody backstage

5154
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:10,000
Exactly exactly. Hey everybody backstage
 

5155
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,230
Exactly exactly. Hey everybody backstage
maybe next time hopefully we can get

5156
01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:13,240
maybe next time hopefully we can get
 

5157
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,990
maybe next time hopefully we can get
more creationists early on when you had

5158
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:16,000
more creationists early on when you had
 

5159
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,990
more creationists early on when you had
time we can't spend forever in these

5160
01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:19,000
time we can't spend forever in these
 

5161
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,270
time we can't spend forever in these
streams I would really like you know we

5162
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:21,280
streams I would really like you know we
 

5163
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,230
streams I would really like you know we
had what? 25 minutes before anyone

5164
01:27:23,230 --> 01:27:23,240
had what? 25 minutes before anyone
 

5165
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,945
had what? 25 minutes before anyone
really decided so

5166
01:27:25,945 --> 01:27:25,955
really decided so
 

5167
01:27:25,955 --> 01:27:26,110
really decided so
>> [snorts]

5168
01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:26,120
>> [snorts]
 

5169
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,070
>> [snorts]
>> Dave any anything you'd like to say

5170
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:28,080
>> Dave any anything you'd like to say
 

5171
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,750
>> Dave any anything you'd like to say
about what we've done today what

5172
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:29,760
about what we've done today what
 

5173
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,950
about what we've done today what
happened today anything?

5174
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:31,960
happened today anything?
 

5175
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,070
happened today anything?
No par for the course I mean you had one

5176
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:34,080
No par for the course I mean you had one
 

5177
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,670
No par for the course I mean you had one
guy flying off the handle and then you

5178
01:27:35,670 --> 01:27:35,680
guy flying off the handle and then you
 

5179
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,430
guy flying off the handle and then you
had another guy that

5180
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:37,440
had another guy that
 

5181
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:40,110
had another guy that
you know is clearly indoctrinated

5182
01:27:40,110 --> 01:27:40,120
you know is clearly indoctrinated
 

5183
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,630
you know is clearly indoctrinated
but you know has the

5184
01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:42,640
but you know has the
 

5185
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,270
but you know has the
I think the rational ability to learn

5186
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:45,280
I think the rational ability to learn
 

5187
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,510
I think the rational ability to learn
science if he's becomes open to it later

5188
01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:48,520
science if he's becomes open to it later
 

5189
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:49,390
science if he's becomes open to it later
um

5190
01:27:49,390 --> 01:27:49,400
um
 

5191
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,110
um
Yeah no that was that was a

5192
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:51,120
Yeah no that was that was a
 

5193
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,950
Yeah no that was that was a
representative smattering of your

5194
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:52,960
representative smattering of your
 

5195
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,830
representative smattering of your
typical creationists I think.

5196
01:27:54,830 --> 01:27:54,840
typical creationists I think.
 

5197
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,950
typical creationists I think.
Some some people were asking good

5198
01:27:55,950 --> 01:27:55,960
Some some people were asking good
 

5199
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,670
Some some people were asking good
question I I like the guy that was like

5200
01:27:57,670 --> 01:27:57,680
question I I like the guy that was like
 

5201
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,670
question I I like the guy that was like
I'm confused here are questions I have.

5202
01:27:59,670 --> 01:27:59,680
I'm confused here are questions I have.
 

5203
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,590
I'm confused here are questions I have.
I love that. I love those. I want to

5204
01:28:02,590 --> 01:28:02,600
I love that. I love those. I want to
 

5205
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,790
I love that. I love those. I want to
explain this to you and then and let you

5206
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:04,800
explain this to you and then and let you
 

5207
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,790
explain this to you and then and let you
sleep on it and then you'll maybe next

5208
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:06,800
sleep on it and then you'll maybe next
 

5209
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,670
sleep on it and then you'll maybe next
year or whatever you'll come around you

5210
01:28:08,670 --> 01:28:08,680
year or whatever you'll come around you
 

5211
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,430
year or whatever you'll come around you
know.

5212
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:09,440
know.
 

5213
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:10,550
know.
That's the goal.

5214
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:10,560
That's the goal.
 

5215
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,830
That's the goal.
I agree I agree. All right well Dave

5216
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:12,840
I agree I agree. All right well Dave
 

5217
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,709
I agree I agree. All right well Dave
thank you for your time. Let's do this

5218
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:14,719
thank you for your time. Let's do this
 

5219
01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:17,030
thank you for your time. Let's do this
again of course and hopefully we can get

5220
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:17,040
again of course and hopefully we can get
 

5221
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,670
again of course and hopefully we can get
some people earlier and

5222
01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:19,680
some people earlier and
 

5223
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,390
some people earlier and
that aren't screaming in your ear cuz I

5224
01:28:21,390 --> 01:28:21,400
that aren't screaming in your ear cuz I
 

5225
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,950
that aren't screaming in your ear cuz I
do like it when it gets tense but

5226
01:28:23,950 --> 01:28:23,960
do like it when it gets tense but
 

5227
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,670
do like it when it gets tense but
It's just I'll let it go for a little

5228
01:28:25,670 --> 01:28:25,680
It's just I'll let it go for a little
 

5229
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,870
It's just I'll let it go for a little
bit and then it's like what is the point

5230
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:26,880
bit and then it's like what is the point
 

5231
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,110
bit and then it's like what is the point
it's like that other flat earther it's

5232
01:28:28,110 --> 01:28:28,120
it's like that other flat earther it's
 

5233
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,750
it's like that other flat earther it's
like just what what are we doing like

5234
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:29,760
like just what what are we doing like
 

5235
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,150
like just what what are we doing like
there's no reason to be doing this you

5236
01:28:32,150 --> 01:28:32,160
there's no reason to be doing this you
 

5237
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,070
there's no reason to be doing this you
Yeah. Yeah. Well thank you so much

5238
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:34,080
Yeah. Yeah. Well thank you so much
 

5239
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,790
Yeah. Yeah. Well thank you so much
everybody like the video share it go

5240
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:36,800
everybody like the video share it go
 

5241
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,030
everybody like the video share it go
subscribe to Professor Dave until next

5242
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:39,040
subscribe to Professor Dave until next
 

5243
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,790
subscribe to Professor Dave until next
time we'll see you then.

5244
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:40,800
time we'll see you then.
 

5245
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,200
time we'll see you then.
Thanks Dave. Thank you.