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Hey everyone, it's time for another

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Hey everyone, it's time for another
 

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Hey everyone, it's time for another
reaction video. So, recently I promised

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reaction video. So, recently I promised
 

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reaction video. So, recently I promised
you that uh I'd be doing a bunch of

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you that uh I'd be doing a bunch of
 

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you that uh I'd be doing a bunch of
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content uh on Stephen Meyer and
 

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content uh on Stephen Meyer and
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Discovery Institute and this recent uh
 

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Discovery Institute and this recent uh
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outpouring of propaganda that he's been
 

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outpouring of propaganda that he's been
uh that he's been enacting here. They're

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uh that he's been enacting here. They're
 

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uh that he's been enacting here. They're
they're really on a push uh this year.

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they're really on a push uh this year.
 

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they're really on a push uh this year.
They have their ridiculous uh propaganda

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They have their ridiculous uh propaganda
 

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They have their ridiculous uh propaganda
theatrical film release that was I I

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theatrical film release that was I I
 

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theatrical film release that was I I
don't remember what it's called. Uh but

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don't remember what it's called. Uh but
 

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don't remember what it's called. Uh but
I'm going to I'll I'll look into that

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I'm going to I'll I'll look into that
 

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I'm going to I'll I'll look into that
later. Um, but so that that was kind of

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later. Um, but so that that was kind of
 

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later. Um, but so that that was kind of
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the the main the the the centerpiece of
 

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the the main the the the centerpiece of
this propaganda push. But, uh, a few

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this propaganda push. But, uh, a few
 

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this propaganda push. But, uh, a few
weeks ago or fairly recently, I did a

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weeks ago or fairly recently, I did a
 

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weeks ago or fairly recently, I did a
reaction to Steven Meyer spewing a bunch

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reaction to Steven Meyer spewing a bunch
 

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reaction to Steven Meyer spewing a bunch
of [\h__\h] on uh some short clips on

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of [\h__\h] on uh some short clips on
 

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of [\h__\h] on uh some short clips on
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some podcasts. Some of it some of it was
 

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some podcasts. Some of it some of it was
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complaining about me, which they all
 

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complaining about me, which they all
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tend to do quite a bit at this point.
 

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tend to do quite a bit at this point.
Um, but today we have a a nice special

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Um, but today we have a a nice special
 

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Um, but today we have a a nice special
one here. And so, if you read the title

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one here. And so, if you read the title
 

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one here. And so, if you read the title
of whatever I'm going to call this

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of whatever I'm going to call this
 

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of whatever I'm going to call this
reaction, you you know why we have to

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reaction, you you know why we have to
 

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reaction, you you know why we have to
talk about this video. So this one is

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talk about this video. So this one is
 

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talk about this video. So this one is
called Steven Meyer, John Lennox, and

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called Steven Meyer, John Lennox, and
 

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called Steven Meyer, John Lennox, and
James Tour. Three scientists on the

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James Tour. Three scientists on the
 

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James Tour. Three scientists on the
origins of everything. Oh boy, you guys.

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origins of everything. Oh boy, you guys.
 

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origins of everything. Oh boy, you guys.
So Steven Meyer is going to talk about

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So Steven Meyer is going to talk about
 

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So Steven Meyer is going to talk about
the origin of the universe. James Tour

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the origin of the universe. James Tour
 

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the origin of the universe. James Tour
is going to talk about the origin of

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is going to talk about the origin of
 

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is going to talk about the origin of
life. We got we got some some

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life. We got we got some some
 

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life. We got we got some some
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intellectual powerhouses here. Uh but
 

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intellectual powerhouses here. Uh but
they're but they're rebels going against

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they're but they're rebels going against
 

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they're but they're rebels going against
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the mainstream, right? They're being
 

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the mainstream, right? They're being
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persecuted because their because of
 

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persecuted because their because of
their faith. Uh, but they have some

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their faith. Uh, but they have some
 

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their faith. Uh, but they have some
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really hot takes on on on origins here.
 

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really hot takes on on on origins here.
So, uh, Meyer, you've seen me, uh,

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So, uh, Meyer, you've seen me, uh,
 

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So, uh, Meyer, you've seen me, uh,
debunk quite a bit. He got his own video

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debunk quite a bit. He got his own video
 

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debunk quite a bit. He got his own video
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in the Discovery Institute, uh,
 

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in the Discovery Institute, uh,
playlist, and then I've mentioned him a

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playlist, and then I've mentioned him a
 

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playlist, and then I've mentioned him a
bunch of times in other content. James

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bunch of times in other content. James
 

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bunch of times in other content. James
Tour, of course, is my most popular, uh,

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Tour, of course, is my most popular, uh,
 

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Tour, of course, is my most popular, uh,
back and forth with any of these ass

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back and forth with any of these ass
 

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back and forth with any of these ass
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hats. Uh, I have single-handedly
 

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hats. Uh, I have single-handedly
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completely ruined his credibility, and
 

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completely ruined his credibility, and
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he is now been reduced essentially to
 

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he is now been reduced essentially to
the Mr. Fina meme. that is uh if it was

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the Mr. Fina meme. that is uh if it was
 

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the Mr. Fina meme. that is uh if it was
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possible to put a a a video clip on a
 

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possible to put a a a video clip on a
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tombstone, that would be that would be
 

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tombstone, that would be that would be
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where that would go. So, uh Mr. Fina is
 

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where that would go. So, uh Mr. Fina is
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of course his doing and and uh probably
 

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of course his doing and and uh probably
his greatest legacy, having coined that.

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his greatest legacy, having coined that.
 

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his greatest legacy, having coined that.
Uh and then John Lennox, I actually did

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Uh and then John Lennox, I actually did
 

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Uh and then John Lennox, I actually did
a reaction video with Planet Peterson, I

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a reaction video with Planet Peterson, I
 

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a reaction video with Planet Peterson, I
think, about John Lennox. So, we've made

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think, about John Lennox. So, we've made
 

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think, about John Lennox. So, we've made
fun of him as well. He's another doofus

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fun of him as well. He's another doofus
 

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fun of him as well. He's another doofus
in this camp. not quite as volatile as

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in this camp. not quite as volatile as
 

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in this camp. not quite as volatile as
tour, but um in the end they're a bunch

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tour, but um in the end they're a bunch
 

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tour, but um in the end they're a bunch
of pseudointellectual frauds uh with no

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of pseudointellectual frauds uh with no
 

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of pseudointellectual frauds uh with no
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real authority on the areas that they
 

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real authority on the areas that they
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claim to know about. Uh just spewing
 

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claim to know about. Uh just spewing
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religiously motivated pseudocience. Uh
 

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religiously motivated pseudocience. Uh
and yes, even James to his nanoars and

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and yes, even James to his nanoars and
 

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and yes, even James to his nanoars and
graphine uh research do not uh give him

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graphine uh research do not uh give him
 

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graphine uh research do not uh give him
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the ability to speak confidently on a
 

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the ability to speak confidently on a
biogenesis, something he really truly

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biogenesis, something he really truly
 

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biogenesis, something he really truly
does not know a whole lot about. uh and

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does not know a whole lot about. uh and
 

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does not know a whole lot about. uh and
also actively lies about uh for Jesus.

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also actively lies about uh for Jesus.
 

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also actively lies about uh for Jesus.
So anyway, that that yeah, this is the

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So anyway, that that yeah, this is the
 

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So anyway, that that yeah, this is the
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video. It's about an hour long, so two
 

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video. It's about an hour long, so two
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to two and a half hours probably for a
 

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to two and a half hours probably for a
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reaction. We'll see how uh we'll see how
 

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reaction. We'll see how uh we'll see how
it goes. It's from the Hoover Institute.

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it goes. It's from the Hoover Institute.
 

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it goes. It's from the Hoover Institute.
Uh sorry, Hoover Institution, which is

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Uh sorry, Hoover Institution, which is
 

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Uh sorry, Hoover Institution, which is
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just an absolute garbage uh propaganda
 

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just an absolute garbage uh propaganda
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outlet. Puts out nothing but hot trash.
 

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outlet. Puts out nothing but hot trash.
which I know that I have commented on at

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which I know that I have commented on at
 

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which I know that I have commented on at
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least one or two videos from them before
 

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least one or two videos from them before
because Meyer goes on there quite a bit.

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because Meyer goes on there quite a bit.
 

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because Meyer goes on there quite a bit.
Uh, and 1.4 million views. 1.4 million

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Uh, and 1.4 million views. 1.4 million
 

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Uh, and 1.4 million views. 1.4 million
views in a month. So, this one made the

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views in a month. So, this one made the
 

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views in a month. So, this one made the
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rounds. So, um I don't know exactly what
 

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rounds. So, um I don't know exactly what
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they say and I don't know exactly uh how
 

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they say and I don't know exactly uh how
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well they how well they convinced uh
 

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well they how well they convinced uh
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continue to uh convince the flock that
 

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continue to uh convince the flock that
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they're in the right, but uh we're going
 

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they're in the right, but uh we're going
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to we're going to they're going to give
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it the old college try and it will be so
 

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it the old college try and it will be so
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pathetic that I will be able to laugh at
 

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pathetic that I will be able to laugh at
it and deconstruct it in real time as a

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it and deconstruct it in real time as a
 

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it and deconstruct it in real time as a
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reaction video because that's how
 

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reaction video because that's how
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pathetic this propaganda is. That's how
 

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pathetic this propaganda is. That's how
unbelievably stupid this uh all of this

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unbelievably stupid this uh all of this
 

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unbelievably stupid this uh all of this
[\h__\h] is. no matter how much they try

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[\h__\h] is. no matter how much they try
 

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[\h__\h] is. no matter how much they try
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to play the the role of the esteemed
 

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to play the the role of the esteemed
academic uh with all of their papers and

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academic uh with all of their papers and
 

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academic uh with all of their papers and
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accolades and wearing a suit and uh
 

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accolades and wearing a suit and uh
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talking real smart like smart guys
 

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talking real smart like smart guys
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around a round table. In actuality,
 

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around a round table. In actuality,
they're uh about as pathetic as it gets.

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they're uh about as pathetic as it gets.
 

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they're uh about as pathetic as it gets.
So, let's go ahead and start this from

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So, let's go ahead and start this from
 

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So, let's go ahead and start this from
the Hoover Institution. Meer Lennox and

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the Hoover Institution. Meer Lennox and
 

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the Hoover Institution. Meer Lennox and
tour talking about [\h__\h] Let's go.

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tour talking about [\h__\h] Let's go.
 

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tour talking about [\h__\h] Let's go.
Let's do it. Did the universe come into

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Let's do it. Did the universe come into
 

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Let's do it. Did the universe come into
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existence by accident?
 

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existence by accident?
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historian of science, Steven Meyer, and
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their their accolades. And then here is
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watching this brainwashed Christian,
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you're very cultured, right? You are a
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knowledge and facts. And we're here to
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presentation of facts that you're ever
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Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge recording

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Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge recording
 

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Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge recording
today in Saltsburg, Austria. I'm Peter

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today in Saltsburg, Austria. I'm Peter
 

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today in Saltsburg, Austria. I'm Peter
Robinson, the director of the Discovery

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Robinson, the director of the Discovery
 

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Robinson, the director of the Discovery
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Institute Center for Science and
 

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Institute Center for Science and
Culture. Steven Meyer started his

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Culture. Steven Meyer started his
 

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Culture. Steven Meyer started his
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professional life as a geoysicist. Then
 

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professional life as a geoysicist. Then
he went back to school and earned a

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he went back to school and earned a
 

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he went back to school and earned a
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doctorate from Cambridge in the history
 

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doctorate from Cambridge in the history
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and philosophy of science. Steven
 

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and philosophy of science. Steven
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Meyer's most recent book, The Return of
 

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Meyer's most recent book, The Return of
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the God Hypothesis. John Lennox is the
 

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the God Hypothesis. John Lennox is the
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professor of mathematics at the
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University of Oxford Emmeritus. He
 

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University of Oxford Emmeritus. He
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serves as president of the Oxford Center
 

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serves as president of the Oxford Center
for Christian Apologetics. John Lennox's

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for Christian Apologetics. John Lennox's
 

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for Christian Apologetics. John Lennox's
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most recent book, God, AI, and the End
 

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most recent book, God, AI, and the End
of History. James Tour is the WF Chow

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of History. James Tour is the WF Chow
 

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of History. James Tour is the WF Chow
Professor of Chemistry at Rice

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Professor of Chemistry at Rice
 

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Professor of Chemistry at Rice
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University, where he also teaches
 

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University, where he also teaches
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materials science and nano engineering.
 

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materials science and nano engineering.
Professor T holds more than 130 patents.

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Professor T holds more than 130 patents.
 

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Professor T holds more than 130 patents.
His most recent book, The Mystery of

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His most recent book, The Mystery of
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Life's Origin. Steve John,
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>> I actually didn't even know Tul wrote a
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book. That could be a good one. I could
 

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book. That could be a good one. I could
I could tear through that. But uh yeah,

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I could tear through that. But uh yeah,
 

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I could tear through that. But uh yeah,
so um no one stops frauds from writing

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so um no one stops frauds from writing
 

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so um no one stops frauds from writing
shitty books full of lies. So

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shitty books full of lies. So
 

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shitty books full of lies. So
advertising their books is not a big uh

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advertising their books is not a big uh
 

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advertising their books is not a big uh
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is not a big flex here. Uh you would
 

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is not a big flex here. Uh you would
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think that they could point towards
 

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think that they could point towards
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primary literature, peer-reviewed
 

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primary literature, peer-reviewed
primary literature that expresses their

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primary literature that expresses their
 

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primary literature that expresses their
their contentions with the mainstream.

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their contentions with the mainstream.
 

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their contentions with the mainstream.
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Uh but of course that's not possible
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because they don't actually do science
 

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because they don't actually do science
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in this realm. uh James is the only one
 

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in this realm. uh James is the only one
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that does science but once again he was
 

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that does science but once again he was
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introduced as uh as a professor of
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nanomaterials uh or material science and
 

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nanomaterials uh or material science and
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nanotechnology. Uh so if he wants to
 

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nanotechnology. Uh so if he wants to
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graphine, yeah, that's fine. He can do
 

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graphine, yeah, that's fine. He can do
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that. And uh if that's all he ever did,
 

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that. And uh if that's all he ever did,
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nobody would have a problem with him. Uh
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right. So uh but all of the [\h__\h]
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procilitizing disguised as scientific
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discussion uh that is not legitimate
 

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discussion uh that is not legitimate
scientific output. So they cannot rest

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scientific output. So they cannot rest
 

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scientific output. So they cannot rest
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on their credentials and laurels for any
 

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on their credentials and laurels for any
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of that. Doesn't matter what degrees you
 

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of that. Doesn't matter what degrees you
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have. Doesn't matter what papers you've
 

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have. Doesn't matter what papers you've
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published. When you talk about these
 

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published. When you talk about these
topics, you're full of [\h__\h] And we're

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topics, you're full of [\h__\h] And we're
 

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topics, you're full of [\h__\h] And we're
going to expose you. So let's do it.

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going to expose you. So let's do it.
 

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going to expose you. So let's do it.
>> Uh Jim, thanks for joining me.

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>> Uh Jim, thanks for joining me.
 

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>> Uh Jim, thanks for joining me.
Two quotations. Here's the Oxford

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Two quotations. Here's the Oxford
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biologist Richard Dawkins in 1995.
 

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biologist Richard Dawkins in 1995.
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quote, "The universe that we observe has
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precisely the properties we should
 

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precisely the properties we should
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expect if there is at bottom no design,
 

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expect if there is at bottom no design,
no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing

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no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing
 

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no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing
but pitiles indifference."

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but pitiles indifference."
 

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but pitiles indifference."
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>> I love how they they they pick on
Dawkins the way they pick on uh Darwin,

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Dawkins the way they pick on uh Darwin,
 

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Dawkins the way they pick on uh Darwin,
right? Because the brainwashed Christian

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right? Because the brainwashed Christian
 

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right? Because the brainwashed Christian
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doesn't understand the concept of a
 

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doesn't understand the concept of a
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broad scientific community with uh
 

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broad scientific community with uh
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comprised of millions of experts that
 

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comprised of millions of experts that
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all agree on certain things being true.
 

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all agree on certain things being true.
Uh but they they don't have a they can't

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Uh but they they don't have a they can't
 

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Uh but they they don't have a they can't
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wrap their mind around that. They think
 

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wrap their mind around that. They think
that Dawkins is like the president of

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that Dawkins is like the president of
 

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that Dawkins is like the president of
biology just like a lot of people think

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biology just like a lot of people think
 

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biology just like a lot of people think
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Neil deGrasse Tyson is like the
 

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Neil deGrasse Tyson is like the
president of science or something and

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president of science or something and
 

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president of science or something and
and serves as some authority on what is

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and serves as some authority on what is
 

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and serves as some authority on what is
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what is scientifically true. You know,
 

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what is scientifically true. You know,
Neil is a very good science communicator

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Neil is a very good science communicator
 

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Neil is a very good science communicator
and he's a he's a a respectable he's a a

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and he's a he's a a respectable he's a a
 

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and he's a he's a a respectable he's a a
dependable voice in terms of someone

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dependable voice in terms of someone
 

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dependable voice in terms of someone
telling you what the scientific

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telling you what the scientific
 

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telling you what the scientific
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community has uncovered. He's not the
 

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community has uncovered. He's not the
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one doing all of the science, right?
 

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one doing all of the science, right?
Same with Dawkins. I mean, he doesn't do

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Same with Dawkins. I mean, he doesn't do
 

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Same with Dawkins. I mean, he doesn't do
he's he's at this point a science

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he's he's at this point a science
 

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he's he's at this point a science
communicator and now has disgraced

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communicator and now has disgraced
 

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communicator and now has disgraced
himself with all his transphobia and

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himself with all his transphobia and
 

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himself with all his transphobia and
Islamophobia and all that crap. Um, but

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Islamophobia and all that crap. Um, but
 

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Islamophobia and all that crap. Um, but
you know, he did good uh he did good

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you know, he did good uh he did good
 

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you know, he did good uh he did good
cyclcom uh in the 80s and 90s wrote some

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cyclcom uh in the 80s and 90s wrote some
 

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cyclcom uh in the 80s and 90s wrote some
some books that help people deconvert

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some books that help people deconvert
 

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some books that help people deconvert
and stuff, but in the eyes of the

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and stuff, but in the eyes of the
 

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and stuff, but in the eyes of the
brainwashed Christian, he's the demon.

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brainwashed Christian, he's the demon.
 

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brainwashed Christian, he's the demon.
He's the target. He's the guy. So, we

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He's the target. He's the guy. So, we
 

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He's the target. He's the guy. So, we
have to do a Dawkins quote, right? We're

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have to do a Dawkins quote, right? We're
 

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have to do a Dawkins quote, right? We're
not going to actually look at biology or

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not going to actually look at biology or
 

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00:08:54,959 --> 00:08:57,190
not going to actually look at biology or
or any of the or yeah, we're not going

446
00:08:57,190 --> 00:08:57,200
or any of the or yeah, we're not going
 

447
00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,269
or any of the or yeah, we're not going
to look at actual the output of the bi

448
00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:59,279
to look at actual the output of the bi
 

449
00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:01,670
to look at actual the output of the bi
of the of the community of biologists

450
00:09:01,670 --> 00:09:01,680
of the of the community of biologists
 

451
00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:04,470
of the of the community of biologists
that uh that prove all of these things.

452
00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:04,480
that uh that prove all of these things.
 

453
00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,829
that uh that prove all of these things.
No, we're going to look at a Dawkins

454
00:09:05,829 --> 00:09:05,839
No, we're going to look at a Dawkins
 

455
00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:07,670
No, we're going to look at a Dawkins
quote and we're going to compare it to I

456
00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:07,680
quote and we're going to compare it to I
 

457
00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,509
quote and we're going to compare it to I
don't know what quote. Let's see.

458
00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:09,519
don't know what quote. Let's see.
 

459
00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,430
don't know what quote. Let's see.
>> Here's the second quotation. This is a

460
00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:11,440
>> Here's the second quotation. This is a
 

461
00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,550
>> Here's the second quotation. This is a
poem that dates back 3,000 years. Psalm

462
00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:14,560
poem that dates back 3,000 years. Psalm
 

463
00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,829
poem that dates back 3,000 years. Psalm
19. The heavens declare the glory of

464
00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:17,839
19. The heavens declare the glory of
 

465
00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:20,550
19. The heavens declare the glory of
God. The skies proclaim the work of his

466
00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:20,560
God. The skies proclaim the work of his
 

467
00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:23,590
God. The skies proclaim the work of his
hands. Day after day, they pour forth

468
00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:23,600
hands. Day after day, they pour forth
 

469
00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,269
hands. Day after day, they pour forth
speech. Night after night they reveal

470
00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:27,279
speech. Night after night they reveal
 

471
00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:28,790
speech. Night after night they reveal
knowledge.

472
00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:28,800
knowledge.
 

473
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,670
knowledge.
>> Okay. Okay. So uh this is so which which

474
00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:33,680
>> Okay. Okay. So uh this is so which which
 

475
00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,389
>> Okay. Okay. So uh this is so which which
quote is better uh in terms so so

476
00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:36,399
quote is better uh in terms so so
 

477
00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:39,509
quote is better uh in terms so so
Dawkins quote is about how uh it's the

478
00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:39,519
Dawkins quote is about how uh it's the
 

479
00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,350
Dawkins quote is about how uh it's the
universe is indifferent towards life.

480
00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:41,360
universe is indifferent towards life.
 

481
00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,190
universe is indifferent towards life.
It's just all chance. Well, of course,

482
00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:43,200
It's just all chance. Well, of course,
 

483
00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,190
It's just all chance. Well, of course,
how could it be? It can't be chance. The

484
00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:45,200
how could it be? It can't be chance. The
 

485
00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,150
how could it be? It can't be chance. The
Christian God uh did everything. Um and

486
00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:48,160
Christian God uh did everything. Um and
 

487
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,190
Christian God uh did everything. Um and
we're comparing it to a psalm from 3,000

488
00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:51,200
we're comparing it to a psalm from 3,000
 

489
00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,430
we're comparing it to a psalm from 3,000
years ago. It's I'm going to read it

490
00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:53,440
years ago. It's I'm going to read it
 

491
00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,550
years ago. It's I'm going to read it
again for you. The heavens declare the

492
00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:56,560
again for you. The heavens declare the
 

493
00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,150
again for you. The heavens declare the
glory of God. the skies proclaim the

494
00:10:00,150 --> 00:10:00,160
glory of God. the skies proclaim the
 

495
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,430
glory of God. the skies proclaim the
work of his hands. So, not space, not

496
00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:03,440
work of his hands. So, not space, not
 

497
00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,310
work of his hands. So, not space, not
the universe, not galaxies, not uh not

498
00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:06,320
the universe, not galaxies, not uh not
 

499
00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,910
the universe, not galaxies, not uh not
anything like because this person who

500
00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:07,920
anything like because this person who
 

501
00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,670
anything like because this person who
wrote this had no [\h__\h] idea that any

502
00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:09,680
wrote this had no [\h__\h] idea that any
 

503
00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,829
wrote this had no [\h__\h] idea that any
of that [\h__\h] existed. The sky, the

504
00:10:11,829 --> 00:10:11,839
of that [\h__\h] existed. The sky, the
 

505
00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:14,630
of that [\h__\h] existed. The sky, the
heavens, the heavens being used uh

506
00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:14,640
heavens, the heavens being used uh
 

507
00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,190
heavens, the heavens being used uh
interchangeably with skies because they

508
00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:17,200
interchangeably with skies because they
 

509
00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,030
interchangeably with skies because they
[\h__\h] thought that heaven was in the

510
00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:19,040
[\h__\h] thought that heaven was in the
 

511
00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,670
[\h__\h] thought that heaven was in the
clouds. That if you go up in the clouds,

512
00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:21,680
clouds. That if you go up in the clouds,
 

513
00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,430
clouds. That if you go up in the clouds,
there's all angels and [\h__\h] float flo

514
00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:23,440
there's all angels and [\h__\h] float flo
 

515
00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,430
there's all angels and [\h__\h] float flo
floating around and sitting on clouds

516
00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:25,440
floating around and sitting on clouds
 

517
00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,949
floating around and sitting on clouds
doing eternal heaven stuff. Um, fast

518
00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:28,959
doing eternal heaven stuff. Um, fast
 

519
00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:30,069
doing eternal heaven stuff. Um, fast
forward a little bit, we've been up

520
00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:30,079
forward a little bit, we've been up
 

521
00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:32,310
forward a little bit, we've been up
there. That [\h__\h] ain't there. Uh, so the

522
00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:32,320
there. That [\h__\h] ain't there. Uh, so the
 

523
00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,069
there. That [\h__\h] ain't there. Uh, so the
so the the modern Christian

524
00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:34,079
so the the modern Christian
 

525
00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:36,470
so the the modern Christian
fundamentalist has to invent uh an

526
00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:36,480
fundamentalist has to invent uh an
 

527
00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,470
fundamentalist has to invent uh an
alternate dimension, right? It's a it's

528
00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:38,480
alternate dimension, right? It's a it's
 

529
00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,310
alternate dimension, right? It's a it's
another realm. When you go to heaven,

530
00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:40,320
another realm. When you go to heaven,
 

531
00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,870
another realm. When you go to heaven,
you go to some other spiritual realm.

532
00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:42,880
you go to some other spiritual realm.
 

533
00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,030
you go to some other spiritual realm.
So, right off the bat, uh, the heavens

534
00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:45,040
So, right off the bat, uh, the heavens
 

535
00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,030
So, right off the bat, uh, the heavens
declare the glory of God. The skies

536
00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:47,040
declare the glory of God. The skies
 

537
00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,910
declare the glory of God. The skies
proclaim the work of his hands. So, we

538
00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:49,920
proclaim the work of his hands. So, we
 

539
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,990
proclaim the work of his hands. So, we
know that heaven's not in the sky. So,

540
00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:52,000
know that heaven's not in the sky. So,
 

541
00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,389
know that heaven's not in the sky. So,
now we're just saying the skies proclaim

542
00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:54,399
now we're just saying the skies proclaim
 

543
00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,230
now we're just saying the skies proclaim
the work of his hand. So, I'm looking up

544
00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:56,240
the work of his hand. So, I'm looking up
 

545
00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,790
the work of his hand. So, I'm looking up
at the sky. What am I missing? I don't

546
00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:58,800
at the sky. What am I missing? I don't
 

547
00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,150
at the sky. What am I missing? I don't
know what the [\h__\h] you're talking about.

548
00:11:00,150 --> 00:11:00,160
know what the [\h__\h] you're talking about.
 

549
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,710
know what the [\h__\h] you're talking about.
Uh, there's atmosphere. Uh, there's

550
00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:02,720
Uh, there's atmosphere. Uh, there's
 

551
00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,030
Uh, there's atmosphere. Uh, there's
clouds. If you go beyond the Karman

552
00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:05,040
clouds. If you go beyond the Karman
 

553
00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,030
clouds. If you go beyond the Karman
line, now you're in space. What's all

554
00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:07,040
line, now you're in space. What's all
 

555
00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,949
line, now you're in space. What's all
that [\h__\h] Are So, we're talking about

556
00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:08,959
that [\h__\h] Are So, we're talking about
 

557
00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:11,829
that [\h__\h] Are So, we're talking about
stars and stuff, too. What are those?

558
00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:11,839
stars and stuff, too. What are those?
 

559
00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,710
stars and stuff, too. What are those?
Psalmist Psalm author. Do you know what

560
00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:14,720
Psalmist Psalm author. Do you know what
 

561
00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,389
Psalmist Psalm author. Do you know what
those are? Do you have any [\h__\h] idea

562
00:11:16,389 --> 00:11:16,399
those are? Do you have any [\h__\h] idea
 

563
00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,150
those are? Do you have any [\h__\h] idea
what stars are or any of the other [\h__\h]

564
00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:18,160
what stars are or any of the other [\h__\h]
 

565
00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,389
what stars are or any of the other [\h__\h]
or planets? Are they gods? Are they

566
00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:20,399
or planets? Are they gods? Are they
 

567
00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,790
or planets? Are they gods? Are they
little gods flying? Is this Apollo going

568
00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:22,800
little gods flying? Is this Apollo going
 

569
00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,750
little gods flying? Is this Apollo going
wee across the sky? Um, you don't know

570
00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:25,760
wee across the sky? Um, you don't know
 

571
00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,230
wee across the sky? Um, you don't know
what any of that crap is. Um, day after

572
00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:28,240
what any of that crap is. Um, day after
 

573
00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,269
what any of that crap is. Um, day after
day they pour forth speech. Do they

574
00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:31,279
day they pour forth speech. Do they
 

575
00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,829
day they pour forth speech. Do they
speak? What does that mean? Uh, that

576
00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:33,839
speak? What does that mean? Uh, that
 

577
00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:35,269
speak? What does that mean? Uh, that
sounds like a metaphor. If it's a

578
00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:35,279
sounds like a metaphor. If it's a
 

579
00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:36,470
sounds like a metaphor. If it's a
metaphor, what the [\h__\h] are you talking

580
00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:36,480
metaphor, what the [\h__\h] are you talking
 

581
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,389
metaphor, what the [\h__\h] are you talking
about? Night after night they reveal

582
00:11:38,389 --> 00:11:38,399
about? Night after night they reveal
 

583
00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:40,310
about? Night after night they reveal
knowledge. Uh, no they don't. That's

584
00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:40,320
knowledge. Uh, no they don't. That's
 

585
00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,150
knowledge. Uh, no they don't. That's
what actually that's what scientists do

586
00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:42,160
what actually that's what scientists do
 

587
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,550
what actually that's what scientists do
by enacting the scientific process. Uh,

588
00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:44,560
by enacting the scientific process. Uh,
 

589
00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,310
by enacting the scientific process. Uh,
they do science. They do empirical

590
00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:46,320
they do science. They do empirical
 

591
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,790
they do science. They do empirical
science to figure [\h__\h] out. So, that

592
00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:48,800
science to figure [\h__\h] out. So, that
 

593
00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,030
science to figure [\h__\h] out. So, that
took quite a long time. Uh, in this day

594
00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:51,040
took quite a long time. Uh, in this day
 

595
00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,350
took quite a long time. Uh, in this day
and age, they didn't know [\h__\h] Uh, they

596
00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:53,360
and age, they didn't know [\h__\h] Uh, they
 

597
00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,750
and age, they didn't know [\h__\h] Uh, they
didn't know. So 3,000 years ago, we're

598
00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:55,760
didn't know. So 3,000 years ago, we're
 

599
00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,430
didn't know. So 3,000 years ago, we're
talking about borderline like this this

600
00:11:59,430 --> 00:11:59,440
talking about borderline like this this
 

601
00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,829
talking about borderline like this this
person who wrote this may may not even

602
00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:01,839
person who wrote this may may not even
 

603
00:12:01,839 --> 00:12:04,069
person who wrote this may may not even
have known the earth as a sphere. So not

604
00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:04,079
have known the earth as a sphere. So not
 

605
00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:05,509
have known the earth as a sphere. So not
not sure about that. I don't know the

606
00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:05,519
not sure about that. I don't know the
 

607
00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,750
not sure about that. I don't know the
exact I know that around 2500 years ago

608
00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:07,760
exact I know that around 2500 years ago
 

609
00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,430
exact I know that around 2500 years ago
was when uh you know ancient Greece uh

610
00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:11,440
was when uh you know ancient Greece uh
 

611
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,430
was when uh you know ancient Greece uh
classical Greece is when it became quite

612
00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:13,440
classical Greece is when it became quite
 

613
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,269
classical Greece is when it became quite
well known that the earth is a sphere

614
00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:15,279
well known that the earth is a sphere
 

615
00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,629
well known that the earth is a sphere
among educated people. Um so this person

616
00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:18,639
among educated people. Um so this person
 

617
00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:20,150
among educated people. Um so this person
probably didn't probably thought that

618
00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:20,160
probably didn't probably thought that
 

619
00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,629
probably didn't probably thought that
the earth was flat. I I'm not positive,

620
00:12:22,629 --> 00:12:22,639
the earth was flat. I I'm not positive,
 

621
00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,110
the earth was flat. I I'm not positive,
but but probably. But sure as [\h__\h]

622
00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:25,120
but but probably. But sure as [\h__\h]
 

623
00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,389
but but probably. But sure as [\h__\h]
thought that the Earth was the center of

624
00:12:26,389 --> 00:12:26,399
thought that the Earth was the center of
 

625
00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:27,910
thought that the Earth was the center of
the universe. Basically, this person

626
00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:27,920
the universe. Basically, this person
 

627
00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,389
the universe. Basically, this person
didn't know dick about the universe. Um,

628
00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:30,399
didn't know dick about the universe. Um,
 

629
00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:33,670
didn't know dick about the universe. Um,
so we're comparing that with a a modern

630
00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:33,680
so we're comparing that with a a modern
 

631
00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,670
so we're comparing that with a a modern
scientist and science communicator who

632
00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:35,680
scientist and science communicator who
 

633
00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,230
scientist and science communicator who
does know things and isn't unique,

634
00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:38,240
does know things and isn't unique,
 

635
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,910
does know things and isn't unique,
shouldn't be singled out. We're talking

636
00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:39,920
shouldn't be singled out. We're talking
 

637
00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,829
shouldn't be singled out. We're talking
about the entire scientific community.

638
00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:41,839
about the entire scientific community.
 

639
00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:43,430
about the entire scientific community.
And and we're going to ask these three

640
00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:43,440
And and we're going to ask these three
 

641
00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,150
And and we're going to ask these three
bozos, which which is a better quote,

642
00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:46,160
bozos, which which is a better quote,
 

643
00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,550
bozos, which which is a better quote,
right? Presumably the question is which

644
00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:48,560
right? Presumably the question is which
 

645
00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,629
right? Presumably the question is which
one is uh what what do you resonate

646
00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:50,639
one is uh what what do you resonate
 

647
00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,629
one is uh what what do you resonate
with? What do you vibe with? The dumb

648
00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:52,639
with? What do you vibe with? The dumb
 

649
00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,190
with? What do you vibe with? The dumb
heaven thing or uh a smart person who

650
00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:55,200
heaven thing or uh a smart person who
 

651
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,389
heaven thing or uh a smart person who
said a smart thing?

652
00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:58,399
said a smart thing?
 

653
00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,750
said a smart thing?
>> Which of those two better reflects, not

654
00:13:01,750 --> 00:13:01,760
>> Which of those two better reflects, not
 

655
00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,269
>> Which of those two better reflects, not
perfectly perhaps, but better reflects

656
00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:05,279
perfectly perhaps, but better reflects
 

657
00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,829
perfectly perhaps, but better reflects
the most recent developments in science,

658
00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:09,839
the most recent developments in science,
 

659
00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:10,629
the most recent developments in science,
Steve?

660
00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:10,639
Steve?
 

661
00:13:10,639 --> 00:13:13,350
Steve?
>> The most recent developments in science.

662
00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:13,360
>> The most recent developments in science.
 

663
00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,110
>> The most recent developments in science.
Are we going to go with the [\h__\h]

664
00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:15,120
Are we going to go with the [\h__\h]
 

665
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,750
Are we going to go with the [\h__\h]
geocentric flatearther or are we going

666
00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:17,760
geocentric flatearther or are we going
 

667
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,750
geocentric flatearther or are we going
to go with the guy who lives in modern

668
00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:19,760
to go with the guy who lives in modern
 

669
00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,750
to go with the guy who lives in modern
times who isn't completely [\h__\h]

670
00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:21,760
times who isn't completely [\h__\h]
 

671
00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,590
times who isn't completely [\h__\h]
clueless about absolutely literally

672
00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:23,600
clueless about absolutely literally
 

673
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,910
clueless about absolutely literally
everything in the universe? Steve, you

674
00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:25,920
everything in the universe? Steve, you
 

675
00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,269
everything in the universe? Steve, you
want to you want to defend the the

676
00:13:27,269 --> 00:13:27,279
want to you want to defend the the
 

677
00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:28,710
want to you want to defend the the
second one because we all know you're

678
00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:28,720
second one because we all know you're
 

679
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,670
second one because we all know you're
going to

680
00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:29,680
going to
 

681
00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:31,590
going to
>> I think the psalmist has got it right

682
00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:31,600
>> I think the psalmist has got it right
 

683
00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,509
>> I think the psalmist has got it right
and good the good professor Dawkins who

684
00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:33,519
and good the good professor Dawkins who
 

685
00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,110
and good the good professor Dawkins who
has a talent for framing issues

686
00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:35,120
has a talent for framing issues
 

687
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,750
has a talent for framing issues
beautifully nevertheless gets it wrong

688
00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:37,760
beautifully nevertheless gets it wrong
 

689
00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,990
beautifully nevertheless gets it wrong
that the new developments in science

690
00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:40,000
that the new developments in science
 

691
00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,829
that the new developments in science
especially having to do with biological

692
00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:41,839
especially having to do with biological
 

693
00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:44,310
especially having to do with biological
and cosmological origins are pointing to

694
00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:44,320
and cosmological origins are pointing to
 

695
00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,710
and cosmological origins are pointing to
the reality of a transcendent designing

696
00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:46,720
the reality of a transcendent designing
 

697
00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,430
the reality of a transcendent designing
creator.

698
00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:47,440
creator.
 

699
00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,389
creator.
>> Jim,

700
00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:48,399
>> Jim,
 

701
00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,870
>> Jim,
>> I would think the psalmist has it much

702
00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:50,880
>> I would think the psalmist has it much
 

703
00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,750
>> I would think the psalmist has it much
much closer.

704
00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:51,760
much closer.
 

705
00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,990
much closer.
>> Much closer. John, are you going to

706
00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:54,000
>> Much closer. John, are you going to
 

707
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,629
>> Much closer. John, are you going to
please stick up for rationalism and

708
00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:56,639
please stick up for rationalism and
 

709
00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:57,670
please stick up for rationalism and
which of those two?

710
00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:57,680
which of those two?
 

711
00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,470
which of those two?
>> I stick up for rationalism and say the s

712
00:14:00,470 --> 00:14:00,480
>> I stick up for rationalism and say the s
 

713
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,670
>> I stick up for rationalism and say the s
the psalmist has it exactly right that

714
00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:03,680
the psalmist has it exactly right that
 

715
00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,550
the psalmist has it exactly right that
this is a wordbased universe. The fact

716
00:14:06,550 --> 00:14:06,560
this is a wordbased universe. The fact
 

717
00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,949
this is a wordbased universe. The fact
that we can describe it in mathematics,

718
00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:08,959
that we can describe it in mathematics,
 

719
00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:11,670
that we can describe it in mathematics,
the fact that biology uses language to

720
00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:11,680
the fact that biology uses language to
 

721
00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:15,110
the fact that biology uses language to
describe its central features of DNA.

722
00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:15,120
describe its central features of DNA.
 

723
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,870
describe its central features of DNA.
But

724
00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:16,880
But
 

725
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,430
But
a word-based universe, you guys. There

726
00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:19,440
a word-based universe, you guys. There
 

727
00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,829
a word-based universe, you guys. There
were words floating around before there

728
00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:21,839
were words floating around before there
 

729
00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:23,750
were words floating around before there
was uh before there was any math or

730
00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:23,760
was uh before there was any math or
 

731
00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,629
was uh before there was any math or
anything else. Um the fact that biology

732
00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:26,639
anything else. Um the fact that biology
 

733
00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,030
anything else. Um the fact that biology
uses language. No, it [\h__\h] doesn't.

734
00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:29,040
uses language. No, it [\h__\h] doesn't.
 

735
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,030
uses language. No, it [\h__\h] doesn't.
You're going he's I I assume he's

736
00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:31,040
You're going he's I I assume he's
 

737
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,430
You're going he's I I assume he's
pretending that we can use symbols uh we

738
00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:35,440
pretending that we can use symbols uh we
 

739
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,670
pretending that we can use symbols uh we
can use symbols from our alphabet to

740
00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:37,680
can use symbols from our alphabet to
 

741
00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,910
can use symbols from our alphabet to
represent nucleotides in DNA. That that

742
00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:39,920
represent nucleotides in DNA. That that
 

743
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,550
represent nucleotides in DNA. That that
that represents language being used by

744
00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:42,560
that represents language being used by
 

745
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,829
that represents language being used by
biology. Um, so, so not at all shocking

746
00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:45,839
biology. Um, so, so not at all shocking
 

747
00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:47,590
biology. Um, so, so not at all shocking
here, right? We got the three propaganda

748
00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:47,600
here, right? We got the three propaganda
 

749
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,150
here, right? We got the three propaganda
pedalling frauds, uh, working for

750
00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:50,160
pedalling frauds, uh, working for
 

751
00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,629
pedalling frauds, uh, working for
Christian theocrats all proclaiming that

752
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:52,639
Christian theocrats all proclaiming that
 

753
00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:55,750
Christian theocrats all proclaiming that
the clueless biblical ass hat had had

754
00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:55,760
the clueless biblical ass hat had had
 

755
00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,870
the clueless biblical ass hat had had
the current status of science better

756
00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:58,880
the current status of science better
 

757
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,030
the current status of science better
than the modern and and Meyer is so

758
00:15:01,030 --> 00:15:01,040
than the modern and and Meyer is so
 

759
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,590
than the modern and and Meyer is so
gracious. Oh, and and Dawkins, he is

760
00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:03,600
gracious. Oh, and and Dawkins, he is
 

761
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,750
gracious. Oh, and and Dawkins, he is
he's talented, bless his heart, at how

762
00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:05,760
he's talented, bless his heart, at how
 

763
00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,350
he's talented, bless his heart, at how
he frames things, but nevertheless, he's

764
00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:07,360
he frames things, but nevertheless, he's
 

765
00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,350
he frames things, but nevertheless, he's
a [\h__\h] idiot who doesn't understand

766
00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:09,360
a [\h__\h] idiot who doesn't understand
 

767
00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,470
a [\h__\h] idiot who doesn't understand
science, right? Um, so this pretty

768
00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:12,480
science, right? Um, so this pretty
 

769
00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,189
science, right? Um, so this pretty
pretty immaculately frames how this

770
00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:15,199
pretty immaculately frames how this
 

771
00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:16,790
pretty immaculately frames how this
video is is certainly going to go. I

772
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:16,800
video is is certainly going to go. I
 

773
00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,870
video is is certainly going to go. I
mean, we know what the uh Meyer is going

774
00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:18,880
mean, we know what the uh Meyer is going
 

775
00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,509
mean, we know what the uh Meyer is going
to do his his God delusion uh cosmology

776
00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:21,519
to do his his God delusion uh cosmology
 

777
00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,509
to do his his God delusion uh cosmology
[\h__\h] Tour is going to do his a

778
00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:23,519
[\h__\h] Tour is going to do his a
 

779
00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:26,150
[\h__\h] Tour is going to do his a
biogenesis [\h__\h] uh and will not

780
00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:26,160
biogenesis [\h__\h] uh and will not
 

781
00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,030
biogenesis [\h__\h] uh and will not
evolve his script a single a single bit

782
00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:29,040
evolve his script a single a single bit
 

783
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,870
evolve his script a single a single bit
ever. Uh, Lennox, I don't know what he's

784
00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:30,880
ever. Uh, Lennox, I don't know what he's
 

785
00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,910
ever. Uh, Lennox, I don't know what he's
going to talk about, but um, yeah, the

786
00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:33,920
going to talk about, but um, yeah, the
 

787
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,310
going to talk about, but um, yeah, the
idea that the dude 3,000 years ago who

788
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:36,320
idea that the dude 3,000 years ago who
 

789
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,710
idea that the dude 3,000 years ago who
wrote a psalm has a better grasp on the

790
00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:38,720
wrote a psalm has a better grasp on the
 

791
00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,629
wrote a psalm has a better grasp on the
nature of the universe than anybody in

792
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:40,639
nature of the universe than anybody in
 

793
00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:44,310
nature of the universe than anybody in
the 21st century, it's how dumb do you

794
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:44,320
the 21st century, it's how dumb do you
 

795
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,629
the 21st century, it's how dumb do you
have to be to fall for this? It's

796
00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:46,639
have to be to fall for this? It's
 

797
00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:48,870
have to be to fall for this? It's
basically they're attempting to prop up

798
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:48,880
basically they're attempting to prop up
 

799
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,110
basically they're attempting to prop up
science by negating all of science and

800
00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:51,120
science by negating all of science and
 

801
00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,350
science by negating all of science and
saying that the pre-scientific person

802
00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:53,360
saying that the pre-scientific person
 

803
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,829
saying that the pre-scientific person
had science better. You just you can't

804
00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:55,839
had science better. You just you can't
 

805
00:15:55,839 --> 00:15:58,150
had science better. You just you can't
make this [\h__\h] up.

806
00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:58,160
make this [\h__\h] up.
 

807
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,189
make this [\h__\h] up.
And Richard Dawkins statement is

808
00:16:01,189 --> 00:16:01,199
And Richard Dawkins statement is
 

809
00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:03,509
And Richard Dawkins statement is
contradicted by his own life because he

810
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:03,519
contradicted by his own life because he
 

811
00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:05,430
contradicted by his own life because he
does believe actually in good and evil

812
00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:05,440
does believe actually in good and evil
 

813
00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,350
does believe actually in good and evil
apparently.

814
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:07,360
apparently.
 

815
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,269
apparently.
>> Um the big bang.

816
00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:09,279
>> Um the big bang.
 

817
00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:11,189
>> Um the big bang.
>> He didn't even bite. He's not like we're

818
00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:11,199
>> He didn't even bite. He's not like we're
 

819
00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:12,470
>> He didn't even bite. He's not like we're
not going to talk about morality right

820
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:12,480
not going to talk about morality right
 

821
00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,629
not going to talk about morality right
now. Uh yeah, the whole Yeah, we get it.

822
00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:14,639
now. Uh yeah, the whole Yeah, we get it.
 

823
00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,389
now. Uh yeah, the whole Yeah, we get it.
You need God to have morality except no

824
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:16,399
You need God to have morality except no
 

825
00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:17,829
You need God to have morality except no
you [\h__\h] don't. We can arrive at our

826
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:17,839
you [\h__\h] don't. We can arrive at our
 

827
00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:19,350
you [\h__\h] don't. We can arrive at our
own morals. There's no objective

828
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:19,360
own morals. There's no objective
 

829
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,269
own morals. There's no objective
morality. Uh I don't believe in God and

830
00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:21,279
morality. Uh I don't believe in God and
 

831
00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:23,990
morality. Uh I don't believe in God and
I have morals. Uh many would say a

832
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:24,000
I have morals. Uh many would say a
 

833
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,350
I have morals. Uh many would say a
better moral compass than any of you

834
00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:25,360
better moral compass than any of you
 

835
00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,150
better moral compass than any of you
dick faces. So, um, yeah, we, well, we

836
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:28,160
dick faces. So, um, yeah, we, well, we
 

837
00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,350
dick faces. So, um, yeah, we, well, we
don't even have to talk about it because

838
00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:29,360
don't even have to talk about it because
 

839
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,110
don't even have to talk about it because
he didn't bite. So, let's go.

840
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:31,120
he didn't bite. So, let's go.
 

841
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,710
he didn't bite. So, let's go.
>> Uh, let's begin everything with an

842
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:32,720
>> Uh, let's begin everything with an
 

843
00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,550
>> Uh, let's begin everything with an
excerpt. There's a there's a forthcoming

844
00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:34,560
excerpt. There's a there's a forthcoming
 

845
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,910
excerpt. There's a there's a forthcoming
documentary in which all three of you

846
00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:35,920
documentary in which all three of you
 

847
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,350
documentary in which all three of you
appear. It's called The Story of

848
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:37,360
appear. It's called The Story of
 

849
00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,790
appear. It's called The Story of
Everything. I believe it will be in

850
00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:38,800
Everything. I believe it will be in
 

851
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,389
Everything. I believe it will be in
theaters in the United States in April.

852
00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:40,399
theaters in the United States in April.
 

853
00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:40,949
theaters in the United States in April.
Is that right?

854
00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:40,959
Is that right?
 

855
00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:42,949
Is that right?
>> The film will open in theaters across

856
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:42,959
>> The film will open in theaters across
 

857
00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:44,710
>> The film will open in theaters across
the country on April 30th.

858
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:44,720
the country on April 30th.
 

859
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,069
the country on April 30th.
>> All right. So, uh,

860
00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:46,079
>> All right. So, uh,
 

861
00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:48,710
>> All right. So, uh,
>> okay. Yeah. So, this is their big uh, so

862
00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:48,720
>> okay. Yeah. So, this is their big uh, so
 

863
00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,629
>> okay. Yeah. So, this is their big uh, so
if anyone This has been out now for a

864
00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:50,639
if anyone This has been out now for a
 

865
00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:52,710
if anyone This has been out now for a
while. If anyone can uh, come across a

866
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:52,720
while. If anyone can uh, come across a
 

867
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,710
while. If anyone can uh, come across a
bootleg copy of this or something, go

868
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:54,720
bootleg copy of this or something, go
 

869
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,710
bootleg copy of this or something, go
ahead and send it my way. Obviously, I

870
00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:56,720
ahead and send it my way. Obviously, I
 

871
00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,590
ahead and send it my way. Obviously, I
will want to either react to or do a

872
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:59,600
will want to either react to or do a
 

873
00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,749
will want to either react to or do a
formal debunk on this because this is

874
00:17:01,749 --> 00:17:01,759
formal debunk on this because this is
 

875
00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,990
formal debunk on this because this is
the centerpiece of this year's uh

876
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:04,000
the centerpiece of this year's uh
 

877
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,990
the centerpiece of this year's uh
propaganda push. So, if you didn't see

878
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:06,000
propaganda push. So, if you didn't see
 

879
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,990
propaganda push. So, if you didn't see
the trailer, it's just another another

880
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:10,000
the trailer, it's just another another
 

881
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,630
the trailer, it's just another another
uh piece of it's just another turd that

882
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:12,640
uh piece of it's just another turd that
 

883
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,470
uh piece of it's just another turd that
the whole thing is just like look how

884
00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:14,480
the whole thing is just like look how
 

885
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,669
the whole thing is just like look how
crazy everything is. Must be God. Like

886
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:17,679
crazy everything is. Must be God. Like
 

887
00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:19,590
crazy everything is. Must be God. Like
that's literally the entire thing. So,

888
00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:19,600
that's literally the entire thing. So,
 

889
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,429
that's literally the entire thing. So,
uh that will be fun to make fun of. So,

890
00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:21,439
uh that will be fun to make fun of. So,
 

891
00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:22,789
uh that will be fun to make fun of. So,
someone send me that if you if you get

892
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:22,799
someone send me that if you if you get
 

893
00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:25,510
someone send me that if you if you get
across that. and it's based on your

894
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:25,520
across that. and it's based on your
 

895
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,309
across that. and it's based on your
book, The Return of the God Hypothesis.

896
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:28,319
book, The Return of the God Hypothesis.
 

897
00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,430
book, The Return of the God Hypothesis.
Uh, and the documentary, as we will hear

898
00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:31,440
Uh, and the documentary, as we will hear
 

899
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,190
Uh, and the documentary, as we will hear
ourselves today, describes three of the

900
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:35,200
ourselves today, describes three of the
 

901
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,590
ourselves today, describes three of the
most important recentish

902
00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:37,600
most important recentish
 

903
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,870
most important recentish
innovations in science. Uh, Steve, if

904
00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:40,880
innovations in science. Uh, Steve, if
 

905
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,549
innovations in science. Uh, Steve, if
the universe was always here, there's

906
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:42,559
the universe was always here, there's
 

907
00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,190
the universe was always here, there's
nothing for a creator to do,

908
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:45,200
nothing for a creator to do,
 

909
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,830
nothing for a creator to do,
says Carl Sean. During a scientific

910
00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:47,840
says Carl Sean. During a scientific
 

911
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,150
says Carl Sean. During a scientific
conference in 1927,

912
00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:50,160
conference in 1927,
 

913
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,710
conference in 1927,
a Belgian priest and astronomer named

914
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:52,720
a Belgian priest and astronomer named
 

915
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,590
a Belgian priest and astronomer named
>> Now, hang on. Uh Sea Sean, they're

916
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:55,600
>> Now, hang on. Uh Sea Sean, they're
 

917
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,909
>> Now, hang on. Uh Sea Sean, they're
trying to present it as though Sean

918
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:57,919
trying to present it as though Sean
 

919
00:17:57,919 --> 00:18:00,630
trying to present it as though Sean
disavows Big Bang Cosmology. This is

920
00:18:00,630 --> 00:18:00,640
disavows Big Bang Cosmology. This is
 

921
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,830
disavows Big Bang Cosmology. This is
Wow. Uh okay, so uh Big Bang Cosmology

922
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:03,840
Wow. Uh okay, so uh Big Bang Cosmology
 

923
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,710
Wow. Uh okay, so uh Big Bang Cosmology
was well understood. Uh I mean within

924
00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:06,720
was well understood. Uh I mean within
 

925
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,470
was well understood. Uh I mean within
Sean's lifetime. He looked pretty old in

926
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:08,480
Sean's lifetime. He looked pretty old in
 

927
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,909
Sean's lifetime. He looked pretty old in
that clip. So that must have been more

928
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:09,919
that clip. So that must have been more
 

929
00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:13,590
that clip. So that must have been more
like the '9s. Um Big Bang Cosmology was

930
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:13,600
like the '9s. Um Big Bang Cosmology was
 

931
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,590
like the '9s. Um Big Bang Cosmology was
consistent well beyond reasonable doubt

932
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:15,600
consistent well beyond reasonable doubt
 

933
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,549
consistent well beyond reasonable doubt
by that time. Uh so Sean definitely this

934
00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:18,559
by that time. Uh so Sean definitely this
 

935
00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:20,470
by that time. Uh so Sean definitely this
is what these little cherrypick quotes

936
00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:20,480
is what these little cherrypick quotes
 

937
00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,549
is what these little cherrypick quotes
to try to character assassinate are are

938
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:22,559
to try to character assassinate are are
 

939
00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,029
to try to character assassinate are are
bananas. Um but it doesn't matter right

940
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:25,039
bananas. Um but it doesn't matter right
 

941
00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,990
bananas. Um but it doesn't matter right
the the thing is that uh these kinds of

942
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:28,000
the the thing is that uh these kinds of
 

943
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,270
the the thing is that uh these kinds of
figures who try to intellectualize their

944
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:31,280
figures who try to intellectualize their
 

945
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,350
figures who try to intellectualize their
science denial will cherrypick science

946
00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:33,360
science denial will cherrypick science
 

947
00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,390
science denial will cherrypick science
that they think corroborates the their

948
00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:36,400
that they think corroborates the their
 

949
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,710
that they think corroborates the their
propaganda and conveniently big bang

950
00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:38,720
propaganda and conveniently big bang
 

951
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,430
propaganda and conveniently big bang
cosmology does fit into that. So uh

952
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:41,440
cosmology does fit into that. So uh
 

953
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,830
cosmology does fit into that. So uh
because they they want to pretend that

954
00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:43,840
because they they want to pretend that
 

955
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,310
because they they want to pretend that
it resembles uh the biblical account of

956
00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:46,320
it resembles uh the biblical account of
 

957
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,669
it resembles uh the biblical account of
creation in Genesis. Uh so right let

958
00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:49,679
creation in Genesis. Uh so right let
 

959
00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:51,029
creation in Genesis. Uh so right let
there be light a beginning of the

960
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:51,039
there be light a beginning of the
 

961
00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,950
there be light a beginning of the
univer. So science suggests there was a

962
00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:52,960
univer. So science suggests there was a
 

963
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,470
univer. So science suggests there was a
beginning of the universe right and

964
00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:54,480
beginning of the universe right and
 

965
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,070
beginning of the universe right and
science suggests that it came from an

966
00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:56,080
science suggests that it came from an
 

967
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,669
science suggests that it came from an
initial singularity and then evolved

968
00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:57,679
initial singularity and then evolved
 

969
00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:00,150
initial singularity and then evolved
from there um in a way that is

970
00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:00,160
from there um in a way that is
 

971
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,909
from there um in a way that is
complicated to explain but I do so in my

972
00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:01,919
complicated to explain but I do so in my
 

973
00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:03,830
complicated to explain but I do so in my
astronomy content if anybody wants to

974
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:03,840
astronomy content if anybody wants to
 

975
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,390
astronomy content if anybody wants to
watch uh that my astronomy playlist. The

976
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:06,400
watch uh that my astronomy playlist. The
 

977
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,750
watch uh that my astronomy playlist. The
second video which is right after the

978
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:07,760
second video which is right after the
 

979
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,669
second video which is right after the
intro goes through big bang cosmology.

980
00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:09,679
intro goes through big bang cosmology.
 

981
00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:11,830
intro goes through big bang cosmology.
I'm very proud of it. it it explains it

982
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:11,840
I'm very proud of it. it it explains it
 

983
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,590
I'm very proud of it. it it explains it
as succinctly and clearly as possible

984
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:13,600
as succinctly and clearly as possible
 

985
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,549
as succinctly and clearly as possible
for for the layman. Um what happened in

986
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:16,559
for for the layman. Um what happened in
 

987
00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,390
for for the layman. Um what happened in
each epoch of the of the development of

988
00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:18,400
each epoch of the of the development of
 

989
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,549
each epoch of the of the development of
the universe. But uh anyway, they want

990
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:20,559
the universe. But uh anyway, they want
 

991
00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:22,230
the universe. But uh anyway, they want
to pretend it's just uh God said let

992
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:22,240
to pretend it's just uh God said let
 

993
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,750
to pretend it's just uh God said let
there be light and oh look at that that

994
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:23,760
there be light and oh look at that that
 

995
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,750
there be light and oh look at that that
works with big bang. So I think what

996
00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:25,760
works with big bang. So I think what
 

997
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,190
works with big bang. So I think what
we're going to see right now what Meyer

998
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:27,200
we're going to see right now what Meyer
 

999
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,430
we're going to see right now what Meyer
likes to do is explain a bunch of [\h__\h]

1000
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:29,440
likes to do is explain a bunch of [\h__\h]
 

1001
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,990
likes to do is explain a bunch of [\h__\h]
about big bang cosmology to sound smart.

1002
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:32,000
about big bang cosmology to sound smart.
 

1003
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,110
about big bang cosmology to sound smart.
Um and but then it just none of that

1004
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:35,120
Um and but then it just none of that
 

1005
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,430
Um and but then it just none of that
contradict like that's just science that

1006
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:37,440
contradict like that's just science that
 

1007
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,590
contradict like that's just science that
we all know and in no way supports the

1008
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:39,600
we all know and in no way supports the
 

1009
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,350
we all know and in no way supports the
existence of the Christian God as

1010
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:41,360
existence of the Christian God as
 

1011
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,750
existence of the Christian God as
believed by fundamentalists or or in or

1012
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:43,760
believed by fundamentalists or or in or
 

1013
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,150
believed by fundamentalists or or in or
God in general, right? It doesn't uh it

1014
00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:46,160
God in general, right? It doesn't uh it
 

1015
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,470
God in general, right? It doesn't uh it
doesn't um uh it doesn't demonstrate

1016
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:48,480
doesn't um uh it doesn't demonstrate
 

1017
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,950
doesn't um uh it doesn't demonstrate
that a god must exist. Of course, it's

1018
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:50,960
that a god must exist. Of course, it's
 

1019
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,950
that a god must exist. Of course, it's
just the uh scientific understanding of

1020
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:52,960
just the uh scientific understanding of
 

1021
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,789
just the uh scientific understanding of
the of the development of the universe.

1022
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:54,799
the of the development of the universe.
 

1023
00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,669
the of the development of the universe.
Um and big bang cosmology does not

1024
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:57,679
Um and big bang cosmology does not
 

1025
00:19:57,679 --> 00:19:59,909
Um and big bang cosmology does not
describe the true origin of universe. It

1026
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:59,919
describe the true origin of universe. It
 

1027
00:19:59,919 --> 00:20:01,270
describe the true origin of universe. It
doesn't describe the origin of the

1028
00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:01,280
doesn't describe the origin of the
 

1029
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,190
doesn't describe the origin of the
initial singularity and there's a teeny

1030
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:03,200
initial singularity and there's a teeny
 

1031
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,710
initial singularity and there's a teeny
tiny gap of about a trillionth of a

1032
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:04,720
tiny gap of about a trillionth of a
 

1033
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,070
tiny gap of about a trillionth of a
trillionth of a trillionth of a second

1034
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:06,080
trillionth of a trillionth of a second
 

1035
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,990
trillionth of a trillionth of a second
after the initial singularity for which

1036
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:08,000
after the initial singularity for which
 

1037
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,549
after the initial singularity for which
we have no information. So you know

1038
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:10,559
we have no information. So you know
 

1039
00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:13,110
we have no information. So you know
we're going through I assume so the

1040
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:13,120
we're going through I assume so the
 

1041
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,190
we're going through I assume so the
three the three places where they try to

1042
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:15,200
three the three places where they try to
 

1043
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,830
three the three places where they try to
wedge the god of the gaps in are the

1044
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:17,840
wedge the god of the gaps in are the
 

1045
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,510
wedge the god of the gaps in are the
origin of the universe the origin of

1046
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:19,520
origin of the universe the origin of
 

1047
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,190
origin of the universe the origin of
life and the and the nature of

1048
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:21,200
life and the and the nature of
 

1049
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,510
life and the and the nature of
consciousness. Uh origin of life doesn't

1050
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:23,520
consciousness. Uh origin of life doesn't
 

1051
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,350
consciousness. Uh origin of life doesn't
really work anymore and tour is an idiot

1052
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:25,360
really work anymore and tour is an idiot
 

1053
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,870
really work anymore and tour is an idiot
who is the only one who tries to do it

1054
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:26,880
who is the only one who tries to do it
 

1055
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,029
who is the only one who tries to do it
and fails miserably. uh consciousness

1056
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:29,039
and fails miserably. uh consciousness
 

1057
00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,390
and fails miserably. uh consciousness
one. They have the other guy uh starts

1058
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:32,400
one. They have the other guy uh starts
 

1059
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,149
one. They have the other guy uh starts
with an E. Uh Michael, I forget his

1060
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:36,159
with an E. Uh Michael, I forget his
 

1061
00:20:36,159 --> 00:20:37,669
with an E. Uh Michael, I forget his
name, but it it's one of the more recent

1062
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:37,679
name, but it it's one of the more recent
 

1063
00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:39,110
name, but it it's one of the more recent
ones I did in the Discovery Institute

1064
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:39,120
ones I did in the Discovery Institute
 

1065
00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:40,950
ones I did in the Discovery Institute
playlist. He's their guy for pretending

1066
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:40,960
playlist. He's their guy for pretending
 

1067
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,590
playlist. He's their guy for pretending
consciousness equals God. Um but then

1068
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:43,600
consciousness equals God. Um but then
 

1069
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,669
consciousness equals God. Um but then
the origin of the universe, that's the

1070
00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:45,679
the origin of the universe, that's the
 

1071
00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:47,270
the origin of the universe, that's the
only one where there's some room. You

1072
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:47,280
only one where there's some room. You
 

1073
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,549
only one where there's some room. You
there's a little room for that God of

1074
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:48,559
there's a little room for that God of
 

1075
00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:49,830
there's a little room for that God of
the gaps. That's the only place he can

1076
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:49,840
the gaps. That's the only place he can
 

1077
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,590
the gaps. That's the only place he can
live anymore is that first trillionth of

1078
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:51,600
live anymore is that first trillionth of
 

1079
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,870
live anymore is that first trillionth of
a trillionth of a trillionth of a second

1080
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:52,880
a trillionth of a trillionth of a second
 

1081
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,630
a trillionth of a trillionth of a second
of the of the of the development of the

1082
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:54,640
of the of the of the development of the
 

1083
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,549
of the of the of the development of the
universe. And uh it's a god that doesn't

1084
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:56,559
universe. And uh it's a god that doesn't
 

1085
00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,350
universe. And uh it's a god that doesn't
bother me if people uh believe in it. Um

1086
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:59,360
bother me if people uh believe in it. Um
 

1087
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,430
bother me if people uh believe in it. Um
but it's not it's not a creationist god.

1088
00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:01,440
but it's not it's not a creationist god.
 

1089
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,190
but it's not it's not a creationist god.
It's not a progressive creationist god

1090
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:03,200
It's not a progressive creationist god
 

1091
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,190
It's not a progressive creationist god
that they're going to defend by implying

1092
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:05,200
that they're going to defend by implying
 

1093
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,510
that they're going to defend by implying
that a god had to trigger the origin of

1094
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:07,520
that a god had to trigger the origin of
 

1095
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,669
that a god had to trigger the origin of
life and then the then the the

1096
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:09,679
life and then the then the the
 

1097
00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:11,669
life and then the then the the
proliferation of different forms over

1098
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:11,679
proliferation of different forms over
 

1099
00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:14,390
proliferation of different forms over
geological time. That's not that god. Um

1100
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:14,400
geological time. That's not that god. Um
 

1101
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,029
geological time. That's not that god. Um
and it's certain sure as [\h__\h] not the

1102
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:17,039
and it's certain sure as [\h__\h] not the
 

1103
00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:18,549
and it's certain sure as [\h__\h] not the
Christian god that the that the

1104
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:18,559
Christian god that the that the
 

1105
00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:19,990
Christian god that the that the
theocrats that the Christian

1106
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:20,000
theocrats that the Christian
 

1107
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,909
theocrats that the Christian
nationalists they work for want to

1108
00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:21,919
nationalists they work for want to
 

1109
00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:23,510
nationalists they work for want to
promote in order to take over the

1110
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:23,520
promote in order to take over the
 

1111
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,390
promote in order to take over the
government. So, uh, yeah. So, presumably

1112
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:26,400
government. So, uh, yeah. So, presumably
 

1113
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,909
government. So, uh, yeah. So, presumably
we're gonna, so, okay, we're going to

1114
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:27,919
we're gonna, so, okay, we're going to
 

1115
00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:30,070
we're gonna, so, okay, we're going to
get the [\h__\h] story of the Big Bang.

1116
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:30,080
get the [\h__\h] story of the Big Bang.
 

1117
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,390
get the [\h__\h] story of the Big Bang.
So, let's let some of this play. Um,

1118
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:32,400
So, let's let some of this play. Um,
 

1119
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,549
So, let's let some of this play. Um,
totally irrelevant to their grift, but

1120
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:34,559
totally irrelevant to their grift, but
 

1121
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:37,110
totally irrelevant to their grift, but
again, kind of key to make the viewer,

1122
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:37,120
again, kind of key to make the viewer,
 

1123
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,270
again, kind of key to make the viewer,
the science literate viewer, go, "Wow,

1124
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:39,280
the science literate viewer, go, "Wow,
 

1125
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,710
the science literate viewer, go, "Wow,
oh, he really knows what he's talking

1126
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:40,720
oh, he really knows what he's talking
 

1127
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,230
oh, he really knows what he's talking
about. Oh my gosh." Okay.

1128
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:42,240
about. Oh my gosh." Okay.
 

1129
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,270
about. Oh my gosh." Okay.
>> George Lameth shared a taxi with Albert

1130
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:45,280
>> George Lameth shared a taxi with Albert
 

1131
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,270
>> George Lameth shared a taxi with Albert
Einstein. What happened during that

1132
00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:47,280
Einstein. What happened during that
 

1133
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,909
Einstein. What happened during that
taxi?

1134
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:47,919
taxi?
 

1135
00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:50,870
taxi?
>> A fascinating story. Einstein's own

1136
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:50,880
>> A fascinating story. Einstein's own
 

1137
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,070
>> A fascinating story. Einstein's own
theory of general relativity implied a

1138
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:54,080
theory of general relativity implied a
 

1139
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,470
theory of general relativity implied a
dynamic expanding universe outward from

1140
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:56,480
dynamic expanding universe outward from
 

1141
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,510
dynamic expanding universe outward from
the beginning. He was unhappy with that

1142
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:59,520
the beginning. He was unhappy with that
 

1143
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,310
the beginning. He was unhappy with that
conclusion.

1144
00:22:00,310 --> 00:22:00,320
conclusion.
 

1145
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,110
conclusion.
>> Einstein himself

1146
00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:01,120
>> Einstein himself
 

1147
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,310
>> Einstein himself
>> Einstein himself. So he he fiddled with

1148
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:04,320
>> Einstein himself. So he he fiddled with
 

1149
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,710
>> Einstein himself. So he he fiddled with
his own equations to make sure that the

1150
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:06,720
his own equations to make sure that the
 

1151
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,950
his own equations to make sure that the
equa the the the term in the equation

1152
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:08,960
equa the the the term in the equation
 

1153
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,830
equa the the the term in the equation
that described the outward push

1154
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:11,840
that described the outward push
 

1155
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,190
that described the outward push
perfectly balanced with the

1156
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:13,200
perfectly balanced with the
 

1157
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,750
perfectly balanced with the
gravitational pole. So he could depict

1158
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:15,760
gravitational pole. So he could depict
 

1159
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,070
gravitational pole. So he could depict
the universe as static.

1160
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:18,080
the universe as static.
 

1161
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,110
the universe as static.
uh Lmetra worked with his equations and

1162
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:21,120
uh Lmetra worked with his equations and
 

1163
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,510
uh Lmetra worked with his equations and
showed that even on his own terms, the

1164
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:23,520
showed that even on his own terms, the
 

1165
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,390
showed that even on his own terms, the
universe was not static and that that it

1166
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:26,400
universe was not static and that that it
 

1167
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,870
universe was not static and that that it
was a dynamic universe, but he also was

1168
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:28,880
was a dynamic universe, but he also was
 

1169
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,190
was a dynamic universe, but he also was
well aware of the astronomical data

1170
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:31,200
well aware of the astronomical data
 

1171
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,350
well aware of the astronomical data
coming from Mount Wilson in California

1172
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:33,360
coming from Mount Wilson in California
 

1173
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,909
coming from Mount Wilson in California
showing what is called red shift, that

1174
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:35,919
showing what is called red shift, that
 

1175
00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:38,549
showing what is called red shift, that
the galaxies are are moving away from

1176
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:38,559
the galaxies are are moving away from
 

1177
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:39,909
the galaxies are are moving away from
us. And we can tell that because of the

1178
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:39,919
us. And we can tell that because of the
 

1179
00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:42,070
us. And we can tell that because of the
the the way in which the light has

1180
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:42,080
the the way in which the light has
 

1181
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,669
the the way in which the light has
shifted in the red direction of the

1182
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:43,679
shifted in the red direction of the
 

1183
00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:46,390
shifted in the red direction of the
electromagnetic spectrum. And so in the

1184
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:46,400
electromagnetic spectrum. And so in the
 

1185
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,310
electromagnetic spectrum. And so in the
taxi cab on the way to this famous

1186
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:48,320
taxi cab on the way to this famous
 

1187
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,070
taxi cab on the way to this famous
conference in in Belgium in 1927,

1188
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:52,080
conference in in Belgium in 1927,
 

1189
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,789
conference in in Belgium in 1927,
uh, Lamemetra confronts Einstein with

1190
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:54,799
uh, Lamemetra confronts Einstein with
 

1191
00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:57,750
uh, Lamemetra confronts Einstein with
this astronomical evidence and with his

1192
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:57,760
this astronomical evidence and with his
 

1193
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,909
this astronomical evidence and with his
own uh, depiction and re relays his own

1194
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:01,919
own uh, depiction and re relays his own
 

1195
00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:04,149
own uh, depiction and re relays his own
work on his his his famous field

1196
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:04,159
work on his his his famous field
 

1197
00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:06,950
work on his his his famous field
equations. And Einstein is reported to

1198
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:06,960
equations. And Einstein is reported to
 

1199
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,310
equations. And Einstein is reported to
have responded. He said, "Well, your

1200
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:08,320
have responded. He said, "Well, your
 

1201
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,549
have responded. He said, "Well, your
mathematics is impeccable, but your

1202
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:10,559
mathematics is impeccable, but your
 

1203
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,110
mathematics is impeccable, but your
physical intuition is abominable." And

1204
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:13,120
physical intuition is abominable." And
 

1205
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,630
physical intuition is abominable." And
so he rejects H I love when they make

1206
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:16,640
so he rejects H I love when they make
 

1207
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,190
so he rejects H I love when they make
the funny jokes. Um so yeah, that's all

1208
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:19,200
the funny jokes. Um so yeah, that's all
 

1209
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,310
the funny jokes. Um so yeah, that's all
true. Uh Einstein did not like Einstein

1210
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:22,320
true. Uh Einstein did not like Einstein
 

1211
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,590
true. Uh Einstein did not like Einstein
believed in the static universe. So

1212
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:23,600
believed in the static universe. So
 

1213
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,470
believed in the static universe. So
that's why he came up with the

1214
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:24,480
that's why he came up with the
 

1215
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,549
that's why he came up with the
cosmological constant and which he

1216
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:26,559
cosmological constant and which he
 

1217
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,870
cosmological constant and which he
called his biggest blunder which later

1218
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:28,880
called his biggest blunder which later
 

1219
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,190
called his biggest blunder which later
ended up being possibly vindicated

1220
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:31,200
ended up being possibly vindicated
 

1221
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,350
ended up being possibly vindicated
because it could be have I mean uh its

1222
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:33,360
because it could be have I mean uh its
 

1223
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:34,710
because it could be have I mean uh its
application with with dark energy

1224
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:34,720
application with with dark energy
 

1225
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,230
application with with dark energy
research. So um but yeah, so he's he's

1226
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:38,240
research. So um but yeah, so he's he's
 

1227
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,630
research. So um but yeah, so he's he's
trying to do a all of this is astro 101

1228
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:40,640
trying to do a all of this is astro 101
 

1229
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,149
trying to do a all of this is astro 101
by the way. you learn this freshman year

1230
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:42,159
by the way. you learn this freshman year
 

1231
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,549
by the way. you learn this freshman year
in college if you take astronomy 101.

1232
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:44,559
in college if you take astronomy 101.
 

1233
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,510
in college if you take astronomy 101.
So, uh to totally valid information, but

1234
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:47,520
So, uh to totally valid information, but
 

1235
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,149
So, uh to totally valid information, but
is meant to be number one to try to

1236
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:50,159
is meant to be number one to try to
 

1237
00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:52,310
is meant to be number one to try to
portray himself as uh supremely

1238
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:52,320
portray himself as uh supremely
 

1239
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,710
portray himself as uh supremely
knowledgeable more so even than actual

1240
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:54,720
knowledgeable more so even than actual
 

1241
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,149
knowledgeable more so even than actual
cosmologists. Uh but two to uh to tee up

1242
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:58,159
cosmologists. Uh but two to uh to tee up
 

1243
00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:00,630
cosmologists. Uh but two to uh to tee up
the science denial to come. Uh so let's

1244
00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:00,640
the science denial to come. Uh so let's
 

1245
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,350
the science denial to come. Uh so let's
let's get there.

1246
00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:01,360
let's get there.
 

1247
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,950
let's get there.
>> Out of hand, the idea that the universe

1248
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:02,960
>> Out of hand, the idea that the universe
 

1249
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,270
>> Out of hand, the idea that the universe
is dynamic and expanding. But two years

1250
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:05,280
is dynamic and expanding. But two years
 

1251
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,830
is dynamic and expanding. But two years
later, Arthur Edington at Cambridge

1252
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:07,840
later, Arthur Edington at Cambridge
 

1253
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,549
later, Arthur Edington at Cambridge
urges him again to go out to Melt Wilson

1254
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:10,559
urges him again to go out to Melt Wilson
 

1255
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:13,110
urges him again to go out to Melt Wilson
to see what Hubble has been has been

1256
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:13,120
to see what Hubble has been has been
 

1257
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,310
to see what Hubble has been has been
seeing through the telescope. And

1258
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:14,320
seeing through the telescope. And
 

1259
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,390
seeing through the telescope. And
there's some famous news.

1260
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:16,400
there's some famous news.
 

1261
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,830
there's some famous news.
>> Take a second to explain the red shift.

1262
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:17,840
>> Take a second to explain the red shift.
 

1263
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,590
>> Take a second to explain the red shift.
Right. Exactly. Okay. That's important

1264
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:19,600
Right. Exactly. Okay. That's important
 

1265
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,070
Right. Exactly. Okay. That's important
to understand.

1266
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:20,080
to understand.
 

1267
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,669
to understand.
>> Yeah. So, the light coming from distant

1268
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:21,679
>> Yeah. So, the light coming from distant
 

1269
00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:24,549
>> Yeah. So, the light coming from distant
galaxies is as the physicists say

1270
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:24,559
galaxies is as the physicists say
 

1271
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,149
galaxies is as the physicists say
shifted in the red direction of the

1272
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:26,159
shifted in the red direction of the
 

1273
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:27,909
shifted in the red direction of the
electromagnetic spectrum. If you shine

1274
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:27,919
electromagnetic spectrum. If you shine
 

1275
00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:30,070
electromagnetic spectrum. If you shine
light through a prism, the light will

1276
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:30,080
light through a prism, the light will
 

1277
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,909
light through a prism, the light will
separate into different colors red to

1278
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:31,919
separate into different colors red to
 

1279
00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:34,870
separate into different colors red to
violet. The red light corresponds to

1280
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:34,880
violet. The red light corresponds to
 

1281
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,669
violet. The red light corresponds to
longer wavelengths. So if an object is

1282
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:37,679
longer wavelengths. So if an object is
 

1283
00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:40,230
longer wavelengths. So if an object is
moving away and and is emitting any kind

1284
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:40,240
moving away and and is emitting any kind
 

1285
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,029
moving away and and is emitting any kind
of of a wavelength, that wavelength will

1286
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:43,039
of of a wavelength, that wavelength will
 

1287
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,029
of of a wavelength, that wavelength will
be stretched out. So if the object is

1288
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:45,039
be stretched out. So if the object is
 

1289
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:46,710
be stretched out. So if the object is
moving away, it's going to stretch out

1290
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:46,720
moving away, it's going to stretch out
 

1291
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,590
moving away, it's going to stretch out
and and the the the color of the light

1292
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:49,600
and and the the the color of the light
 

1293
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,350
and and the the the color of the light
will shift towards the red direction. It

1294
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:51,360
will shift towards the red direction. It
 

1295
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,789
will shift towards the red direction. It
will be redder than it would otherwise

1296
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:52,799
will be redder than it would otherwise
 

1297
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,190
will be redder than it would otherwise
be. And so as Edwin,

1298
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:55,200
be. And so as Edwin,
 

1299
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,950
be. And so as Edwin,
>> the ship's horn as the ship pulls away

1300
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:56,960
>> the ship's horn as the ship pulls away
 

1301
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,310
>> the ship's horn as the ship pulls away
from us to go off to sea.

1302
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:58,320
from us to go off to sea.
 

1303
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,669
from us to go off to sea.
>> Exactly. or or think of the train

1304
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:59,679
>> Exactly. or or think of the train
 

1305
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,190
>> Exactly. or or think of the train
whistle, you know, with the Doppler

1306
00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:01,200
whistle, you know, with the Doppler
 

1307
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,830
whistle, you know, with the Doppler
effect from high school chemistry.

1308
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:03,840
effect from high school chemistry.
 

1309
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,750
effect from high school chemistry.
As the pitch drops, the wavelength is

1310
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:05,760
As the pitch drops, the wavelength is
 

1311
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,510
As the pitch drops, the wavelength is
also stretching out.

1312
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:07,520
also stretching out.
 

1313
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,430
also stretching out.
>> So, uh, as as Hubble began to survey the

1314
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:11,440
>> So, uh, as as Hubble began to survey the
 

1315
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,310
>> So, uh, as as Hubble began to survey the
night sky with these new dome telescopes

1316
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:14,320
night sky with these new dome telescopes
 

1317
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,630
night sky with these new dome telescopes
that were just being built in the 1920s,

1318
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:16,640
that were just being built in the 1920s,
 

1319
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,269
that were just being built in the 1920s,
his, uh, photographic plates and his

1320
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:19,279
his, uh, photographic plates and his
 

1321
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,350
his, uh, photographic plates and his
spectral analysis was showing that the

1322
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:21,360
spectral analysis was showing that the
 

1323
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,110
spectral analysis was showing that the
galaxies in every quadrant that he

1324
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:23,120
galaxies in every quadrant that he
 

1325
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,350
galaxies in every quadrant that he
investigated were redshifted. the light

1326
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:25,360
investigated were redshifted. the light
 

1327
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,029
investigated were redshifted. the light
coming was was being stretched which

1328
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:27,039
coming was was being stretched which
 

1329
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,630
coming was was being stretched which
suggested that the universe was actually

1330
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:28,640
suggested that the universe was actually
 

1331
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,269
suggested that the universe was actually
expanding outward as if from a beginning

1332
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:31,279
expanding outward as if from a beginning
 

1333
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,310
expanding outward as if from a beginning
point. And this was this was the the the

1334
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:34,320
point. And this was this was the the the
 

1335
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,909
point. And this was this was the the the
great discovery that led to people

1336
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:35,919
great discovery that led to people
 

1337
00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:38,310
great discovery that led to people
thinking about well what would happen if

1338
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:38,320
thinking about well what would happen if
 

1339
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,430
thinking about well what would happen if
you ran that sequence in reverse if you

1340
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:41,440
you ran that sequence in reverse if you
 

1341
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,510
you ran that sequence in reverse if you
back extrapolate. If you think about

1342
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:43,520
back extrapolate. If you think about
 

1343
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,710
back extrapolate. If you think about
well what would the un if the universe

1344
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:44,720
well what would the un if the universe
 

1345
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,149
well what would the un if the universe
is expanding outward in the forward

1346
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:46,159
is expanding outward in the forward
 

1347
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:47,830
is expanding outward in the forward
direction of time what would it have

1348
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:47,840
direction of time what would it have
 

1349
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,750
direction of time what would it have
been like a thousand years ago or a

1350
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:49,760
been like a thousand years ago or a
 

1351
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,830
been like a thousand years ago or a
million years ago or a billion years ago

1352
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:51,840
million years ago or a billion years ago
 

1353
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,230
million years ago or a billion years ago
however far back you go you will

1354
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:54,240
however far back you go you will
 

1355
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,909
however far back you go you will
eventually reach a point where all of

1356
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:55,919
eventually reach a point where all of
 

1357
00:25:55,919 --> 00:25:57,830
eventually reach a point where all of
that galactic material would have

1358
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:57,840
that galactic material would have
 

1359
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,149
that galactic material would have
converged in in the reverse direction of

1360
00:26:00,149 --> 00:26:00,159
converged in in the reverse direction of
 

1361
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:03,269
converged in in the reverse direction of
time to one point which would mark this

1362
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:03,279
time to one point which would mark this
 

1363
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,750
time to one point which would mark this
the start of the expansion but arguably

1364
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:05,760
the start of the expansion but arguably
 

1365
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,590
the start of the expansion but arguably
the beginning of the universe itself.

1366
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:07,600
the beginning of the universe itself.
 

1367
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,870
the beginning of the universe itself.
So, a young

1368
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:08,880
So, a young
 

1369
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,590
So, a young
>> the the tragedy here is that the people

1370
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:11,600
>> the the tragedy here is that the people
 

1371
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,510
>> the the tragedy here is that the people
the target audience of this video um

1372
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:15,520
the target audience of this video um
 

1373
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,510
the target audience of this video um
ideally they would listen to this Astro

1374
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:17,520
ideally they would listen to this Astro
 

1375
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,750
ideally they would listen to this Astro
101 lecture and go, "Wow, that's really

1376
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:19,760
101 lecture and go, "Wow, that's really
 

1377
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,950
101 lecture and go, "Wow, that's really
interesting. I think I'd like to learn

1378
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:20,960
interesting. I think I'd like to learn
 

1379
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,390
interesting. I think I'd like to learn
more. I'd like to learn more about

1380
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:22,400
more. I'd like to learn more about
 

1381
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,950
more. I'd like to learn more about
science. This has inspired a desire in

1382
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:24,960
science. This has inspired a desire in
 

1383
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,870
science. This has inspired a desire in
me to go to uh to go to uh trusted

1384
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:28,880
me to go to uh to go to uh trusted
 

1385
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,710
me to go to uh to go to uh trusted
figures that are communicating science

1386
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:30,720
figures that are communicating science
 

1387
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,950
figures that are communicating science
or or just lectures, right? and I can

1388
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:32,960
or or just lectures, right? and I can
 

1389
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,350
or or just lectures, right? and I can
watch an MIT lecture or I can watch some

1390
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:35,360
watch an MIT lecture or I can watch some
 

1391
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,110
watch an MIT lecture or I can watch some
content communicating more about

1392
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:37,120
content communicating more about
 

1393
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,710
content communicating more about
astronomy so I can learn more about the

1394
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:38,720
astronomy so I can learn more about the
 

1395
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,110
astronomy so I can learn more about the
universe whereas you know that 98% of

1396
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:41,120
universe whereas you know that 98% of
 

1397
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,029
universe whereas you know that 98% of
them were just going oh wow you really

1398
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:43,039
them were just going oh wow you really
 

1399
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,430
them were just going oh wow you really
sound smart okay let's uh okay now tell

1400
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:45,440
sound smart okay let's uh okay now tell
 

1401
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,710
sound smart okay let's uh okay now tell
me about the Jesus stuff that's what

1402
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,720
me about the Jesus stuff that's what
 

1403
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,269
me about the Jesus stuff that's what
what I'm really here for uh that's

1404
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:49,279
what I'm really here for uh that's
 

1405
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,190
what I'm really here for uh that's
that's the level that I think most of

1406
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:51,200
that's the level that I think most of
 

1407
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,029
that's the level that I think most of
the viewers are that have convinced

1408
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:53,039
the viewers are that have convinced
 

1409
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:54,950
the viewers are that have convinced
themselves they're watching the fancy

1410
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:54,960
themselves they're watching the fancy
 

1411
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,430
themselves they're watching the fancy
classical music uh sophisticated culture

1412
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:57,440
classical music uh sophisticated culture
 

1413
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,110
classical music uh sophisticated culture
time hour but yeah

1414
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:59,120
time hour but yeah
 

1415
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,350
time hour but yeah
>> young student at Cambridge the physicist

1416
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:01,360
>> young student at Cambridge the physicist
 

1417
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:05,269
>> young student at Cambridge the physicist
Steven Hawk talking in 1966 presented a

1418
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:05,279
Steven Hawk talking in 1966 presented a
 

1419
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,110
Steven Hawk talking in 1966 presented a
mathematical demonstration of the

1420
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:07,120
mathematical demonstration of the
 

1421
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:08,710
mathematical demonstration of the
singularity.

1422
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:08,720
singularity.
 

1423
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,549
singularity.
I'm reading these words, but I don't

1424
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:10,559
I'm reading these words, but I don't
 

1425
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:11,909
I'm reading these words, but I don't
understand them, John, which is where

1426
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:11,919
understand them, John, which is where
 

1427
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:13,830
understand them, John, which is where
you're going to come in here. The

1428
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:13,840
you're going to come in here. The
 

1429
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,909
you're going to come in here. The
singularity, the moment when all matter

1430
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:15,919
singularity, the moment when all matter
 

1431
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:18,549
singularity, the moment when all matter
and light were infinitely

1432
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:18,559
and light were infinitely
 

1433
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,430
and light were infinitely
tight. So, as I understand it, the

1434
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:21,440
tight. So, as I understand it, the
 

1435
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,950
tight. So, as I understand it, the
singularity

1436
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:22,960
singularity
 

1437
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,950
singularity
exists somehow. I don't even know how to

1438
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:24,960
exists somehow. I don't even know how to
 

1439
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,750
exists somehow. I don't even know how to
describe it, but it exists outside time

1440
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:27,760
describe it, but it exists outside time
 

1441
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,070
describe it, but it exists outside time
and space because time and space haven't

1442
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:30,080
and space because time and space haven't
 

1443
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,110
and space because time and space haven't
come into a being yet. So, so explain

1444
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:33,120
come into a being yet. So, so explain
 

1445
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,029
come into a being yet. So, so explain
what explain what what this means. The

1446
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:35,039
what explain what what this means. The
 

1447
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:35,750
what explain what what this means. The
singularity,

1448
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:35,760
singularity,
 

1449
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,710
singularity,
>> they're very difficult concepts, but

1450
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:38,720
>> they're very difficult concepts, but
 

1451
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,310
>> they're very difficult concepts, but
what Hawking did was to confirm

1452
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:42,320
what Hawking did was to confirm
 

1453
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,990
what Hawking did was to confirm
what Lmetra predicted and what the red

1454
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:46,000
what Lmetra predicted and what the red
 

1455
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,149
what Lmetra predicted and what the red
shift showed and the Hubble telescope

1456
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:48,159
shift showed and the Hubble telescope
 

1457
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:50,950
shift showed and the Hubble telescope
and all the rest of it and gave a

1458
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:50,960
and all the rest of it and gave a
 

1459
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,549
and all the rest of it and gave a
stronger more mathematical confirmation

1460
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:54,559
stronger more mathematical confirmation
 

1461
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,830
stronger more mathematical confirmation
of it. And in more recent times there

1462
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:57,840
of it. And in more recent times there
 

1463
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,630
of it. And in more recent times there
are three brilliant mathematicians Venin

1464
00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:00,640
are three brilliant mathematicians Venin
 

1465
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,190
are three brilliant mathematicians Venin
Bour and Alan Guth

1466
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:03,200
Bour and Alan Guth
 

1467
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,830
Bour and Alan Guth
and they worked out mathematically that

1468
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:05,840
and they worked out mathematically that
 

1469
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,710
and they worked out mathematically that
you just cannot have an infinite

1470
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:08,720
you just cannot have an infinite
 

1471
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,110
you just cannot have an infinite
sequence going backwards in time. It's

1472
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:11,120
sequence going backwards in time. It's
 

1473
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,510
sequence going backwards in time. It's
reminiscent of the old calam

1474
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:13,520
reminiscent of the old calam
 

1475
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,590
reminiscent of the old calam
philosophical argument that you can't

1476
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:15,600
philosophical argument that you can't
 

1477
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,350
philosophical argument that you can't
have an infinite sequence of steps

1478
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:17,360
have an infinite sequence of steps
 

1479
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,470
have an infinite sequence of steps
backward in time. So but from their

1480
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:20,480
backward in time. So but from their
 

1481
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,230
backward in time. So but from their
perspective

1482
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:22,240
perspective
 

1483
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,830
perspective
it's established that there was a

1484
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:25,840
it's established that there was a
 

1485
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,990
it's established that there was a
beginning whether you think in terms of

1486
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:28,000
beginning whether you think in terms of
 

1487
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,630
beginning whether you think in terms of
multiverses or not there was an absolute

1488
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:30,640
multiverses or not there was an absolute
 

1489
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,149
multiverses or not there was an absolute
beginning and that of course confirms

1490
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:34,159
beginning and that of course confirms
 

1491
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:37,269
beginning and that of course confirms
the statement of Genesis which states

1492
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:37,279
the statement of Genesis which states
 

1493
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,590
the statement of Genesis which states
there was a beginning and to

1494
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:41,600
there was a beginning and to
 

1495
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,909
there was a beginning and to
>> there it is right here's the leap. So we

1496
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:43,919
>> there it is right here's the leap. So we
 

1497
00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:46,950
>> there it is right here's the leap. So we
go from science that nobody denies to

1498
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:46,960
go from science that nobody denies to
 

1499
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,830
go from science that nobody denies to
science proves Genesis, right? Because

1500
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:49,840
science proves Genesis, right? Because
 

1501
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,549
science proves Genesis, right? Because
it says there was a beginning. So any

1502
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:52,559
it says there was a beginning. So any
 

1503
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:54,549
it says there was a beginning. So any
story has a [\h__\h] beginning. So the

1504
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:54,559
story has a [\h__\h] beginning. So the
 

1505
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,149
story has a [\h__\h] beginning. So the
story of Christian mythology has a

1506
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:56,159
story of Christian mythology has a
 

1507
00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:58,389
story of Christian mythology has a
beginning. Therefore, science proves the

1508
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:58,399
beginning. Therefore, science proves the
 

1509
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:00,549
beginning. Therefore, science proves the
Christian God is real. Like what a

1510
00:29:00,549 --> 00:29:00,559
Christian God is real. Like what a
 

1511
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,190
Christian God is real. Like what a
[\h__\h] leap is that? What what else

1512
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:03,200
[\h__\h] leap is that? What what else
 

1513
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,590
[\h__\h] leap is that? What what else
what else does Genesis say? Does Genesis

1514
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:05,600
what else does Genesis say? Does Genesis
 

1515
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,310
what else does Genesis say? Does Genesis
talk about a quark glue on plasma? Does

1516
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:08,320
talk about a quark glue on plasma? Does
 

1517
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,750
talk about a quark glue on plasma? Does
does Genesis talk about the

1518
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:09,760
does Genesis talk about the
 

1519
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,070
does Genesis talk about the
recombination era uh and and

1520
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:12,080
recombination era uh and and
 

1521
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,230
recombination era uh and and
electromagnetic radiation? Does it talk

1522
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:14,240
electromagnetic radiation? Does it talk
 

1523
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,389
electromagnetic radiation? Does it talk
about hydrogen uh does it talk about big

1524
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:16,399
about hydrogen uh does it talk about big
 

1525
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:18,310
about hydrogen uh does it talk about big
bang nucleiosynthesis and the production

1526
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:18,320
bang nucleiosynthesis and the production
 

1527
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,710
bang nucleiosynthesis and the production
of helium and lithium and then and then

1528
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:20,720
of helium and lithium and then and then
 

1529
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,269
of helium and lithium and then and then
hydrogen and helium gas collecting to

1530
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:23,279
hydrogen and helium gas collecting to
 

1531
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,029
hydrogen and helium gas collecting to
form stars and then those going

1532
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:25,039
form stars and then those going
 

1533
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,190
form stars and then those going
supernova and creating all all uh

1534
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:27,200
supernova and creating all all uh
 

1535
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,950
supernova and creating all all uh
additional elements that then collect

1536
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:28,960
additional elements that then collect
 

1537
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,470
additional elements that then collect
again and form the next generation of

1538
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:30,480
again and form the next generation of
 

1539
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,710
again and form the next generation of
stars and galaxy formation. Does it talk

1540
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:32,720
stars and galaxy formation. Does it talk
 

1541
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,389
stars and galaxy formation. Does it talk
about all that [\h__\h] Oh, no. Because the

1542
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:34,399
about all that [\h__\h] Oh, no. Because the
 

1543
00:29:34,399 --> 00:29:35,830
about all that [\h__\h] Oh, no. Because the
people who wrote it had no [\h__\h] idea

1544
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:35,840
people who wrote it had no [\h__\h] idea
 

1545
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,190
people who wrote it had no [\h__\h] idea
about anything about the entire

1546
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:37,200
about anything about the entire
 

1547
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,909
about anything about the entire
universe. Um, so it's just this whiplash

1548
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:41,919
universe. Um, so it's just this whiplash
 

1549
00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:45,029
universe. Um, so it's just this whiplash
from like Astro 101, perfectly factual

1550
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:45,039
from like Astro 101, perfectly factual
 

1551
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:46,789
from like Astro 101, perfectly factual
information, right? All of that was

1552
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:46,799
information, right? All of that was
 

1553
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,590
information, right? All of that was
again that's you learn this in the first

1554
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:49,600
again that's you learn this in the first
 

1555
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,549
again that's you learn this in the first
two months of astronomy 101. All factual

1556
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:52,559
two months of astronomy 101. All factual
 

1557
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,549
two months of astronomy 101. All factual
information. But then they go from that

1558
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:54,559
information. But then they go from that
 

1559
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:58,549
information. But then they go from that
to therefore the the biblical account of

1560
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:58,559
to therefore the the biblical account of
 

1561
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,389
to therefore the the biblical account of
of the creation of the universe in

1562
00:30:00,389 --> 00:30:00,399
of the creation of the universe in
 

1563
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,549
of the creation of the universe in
Genesis is true because of what

1564
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:02,559
Genesis is true because of what
 

1565
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,510
Genesis is true because of what
similarities, right? What what were what

1566
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:05,520
similarities, right? What what were what
 

1567
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,230
similarities, right? What what were what
what is there in Genesis that even

1568
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:08,240
what is there in Genesis that even
 

1569
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,630
what is there in Genesis that even
vaguely resembles any of the [\h__\h] you

1570
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:10,640
vaguely resembles any of the [\h__\h] you
 

1571
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,870
vaguely resembles any of the [\h__\h] you
just said other than there was a

1572
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:12,880
just said other than there was a
 

1573
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,669
just said other than there was a
beginning? There was a beginning is is

1574
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:15,679
beginning? There was a beginning is is
 

1575
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:18,389
beginning? There was a beginning is is
equivocating Genesis with all of

1576
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:18,399
equivocating Genesis with all of
 

1577
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,389
equivocating Genesis with all of
cosmology. Are you out of your [\h__\h]

1578
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:20,399
cosmology. Are you out of your [\h__\h]
 

1579
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:24,230
cosmology. Are you out of your [\h__\h]
mind? It's insane. To my mind it is

1580
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:24,240
mind? It's insane. To my mind it is
 

1581
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,669
mind? It's insane. To my mind it is
absolutely fascinating because I was at

1582
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:27,679
absolutely fascinating because I was at
 

1583
00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:29,590
absolutely fascinating because I was at
a conference of very some very

1584
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:29,600
a conference of very some very
 

1585
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,310
a conference of very some very
highpowered physicists not far from here

1586
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:32,320
highpowered physicists not far from here
 

1587
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,630
highpowered physicists not far from here
a few years ago and I made the claim

1588
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:36,640
a few years ago and I made the claim
 

1589
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,590
a few years ago and I made the claim
that Genesis in the beginning God

1590
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:39,600
that Genesis in the beginning God
 

1591
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,590
that Genesis in the beginning God
created was relevant and I was

1592
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:41,600
created was relevant and I was
 

1593
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,710
created was relevant and I was
interrupted by a heckler who was a

1594
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:44,720
interrupted by a heckler who was a
 

1595
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,430
interrupted by a heckler who was a
famous physicist and he said look

1596
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:47,440
famous physicist and he said look
 

1597
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,389
famous physicist and he said look
professor Lennox you are not saying to

1598
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:50,399
professor Lennox you are not saying to
 

1599
00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:51,990
professor Lennox you are not saying to
us are

1600
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:52,000
us are
 

1601
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,870
us are
that you believe that the first

1602
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:54,880
that you believe that the first
 

1603
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,350
that you believe that the first
statement in Genesis has any relevance

1604
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:57,360
statement in Genesis has any relevance
 

1605
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,750
statement in Genesis has any relevance
for us today. I said I am. I said of

1606
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:01,760
for us today. I said I am. I said of
 

1607
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,830
for us today. I said I am. I said of
course the Bible is not a textbook of

1608
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:03,840
course the Bible is not a textbook of
 

1609
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,070
course the Bible is not a textbook of
science. But when it says in the

1610
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:06,080
science. But when it says in the
 

1611
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,750
science. But when it says in the
beginning God created the heavens and

1612
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:07,760
beginning God created the heavens and
 

1613
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,669
beginning God created the heavens and
the earth. It's talking about the same

1614
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:09,679
the earth. It's talking about the same
 

1615
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:11,669
the earth. It's talking about the same
heavens and earth that you study as a

1616
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:11,679
heavens and earth that you study as a
 

1617
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:12,710
heavens and earth that you study as a
cosmologist.

1618
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:12,720
cosmologist.
 

1619
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,549
cosmologist.
>> Well then what [\h__\h] sense does that

1620
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:14,559
>> Well then what [\h__\h] sense does that
 

1621
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,549
>> Well then what [\h__\h] sense does that
make considering heavens doesn't

1622
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:16,559
make considering heavens doesn't
 

1623
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,310
make considering heavens doesn't
actually mean anything unless you mean

1624
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:18,320
actually mean anything unless you mean
 

1625
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,389
actually mean anything unless you mean
sky. and the sky and the earth were

1626
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:20,399
sky. and the sky and the earth were
 

1627
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:23,669
sky. and the sky and the earth were
created [\h__\h] 10 billion years after

1628
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:23,679
created [\h__\h] 10 billion years after
 

1629
00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:25,669
created [\h__\h] 10 billion years after
the initial singularity. You are

1630
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:25,679
the initial singularity. You are
 

1631
00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:27,909
the initial singularity. You are
disproving yourself in this sentence.

1632
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:27,919
disproving yourself in this sentence.
 

1633
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:29,990
disproving yourself in this sentence.
The heckler is actually just a smart

1634
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:30,000
The heckler is actually just a smart
 

1635
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,070
The heckler is actually just a smart
person telling you how [\h__\h] full of

1636
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:32,080
person telling you how [\h__\h] full of
 

1637
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,710
person telling you how [\h__\h] full of
[\h__\h] you are. In Genesis, it says

1638
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:34,720
[\h__\h] you are. In Genesis, it says
 

1639
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,630
[\h__\h] you are. In Genesis, it says
absolutely nothing even remotely

1640
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:36,640
absolutely nothing even remotely
 

1641
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,710
absolutely nothing even remotely
scientific. It just said in the

1642
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:38,720
scientific. It just said in the
 

1643
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,310
scientific. It just said in the
beginning, what does it say? God said,

1644
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:40,320
beginning, what does it say? God said,
 

1645
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,070
beginning, what does it say? God said,
"Let there be light." And then poof, all

1646
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:42,080
"Let there be light." And then poof, all
 

1647
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,070
"Let there be light." And then poof, all
this [\h__\h] And then the sequence of

1648
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:44,080
this [\h__\h] And then the sequence of
 

1649
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,909
this [\h__\h] And then the sequence of
things that he created, the the account

1650
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:45,919
things that he created, the the account
 

1651
00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:48,630
things that he created, the the account
in Genesis makes no [\h__\h] sense. it's

1652
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:48,640
in Genesis makes no [\h__\h] sense. it's
 

1653
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,509
in Genesis makes no [\h__\h] sense. it's
light and then there's uh then there's

1654
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:51,519
light and then there's uh then there's
 

1655
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,750
light and then there's uh then there's
the earth and then I think trees come

1656
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:53,760
the earth and then I think trees come
 

1657
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,310
the earth and then I think trees come
before the sun and all this [\h__\h] like it

1658
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:56,320
before the sun and all this [\h__\h] like it
 

1659
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,870
before the sun and all this [\h__\h] like it
makes no [\h__\h] sense and you're trying

1660
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:58,880
makes no [\h__\h] sense and you're trying
 

1661
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,470
makes no [\h__\h] sense and you're trying
to defend it from a scientific

1662
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:00,480
to defend it from a scientific
 

1663
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,149
to defend it from a scientific
standpoint rather than an allegorical

1664
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:02,159
standpoint rather than an allegorical
 

1665
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:03,750
standpoint rather than an allegorical
one doesn't make sense as an allegory

1666
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:03,760
one doesn't make sense as an allegory
 

1667
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,870
one doesn't make sense as an allegory
any uh either but um what you just said

1668
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:06,880
any uh either but um what you just said
 

1669
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,710
any uh either but um what you just said
the heavens and the earth where the [\h__\h]

1670
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:08,720
the heavens and the earth where the [\h__\h]
 

1671
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,190
the heavens and the earth where the [\h__\h]
are you getting the earth being formed

1672
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:11,200
are you getting the earth being formed
 

1673
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,549
are you getting the earth being formed
immediately after the initial

1674
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:12,559
immediately after the initial
 

1675
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,950
immediately after the initial
singularity you're skipping 10 billion

1676
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:14,960
singularity you're skipping 10 billion
 

1677
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,110
singularity you're skipping 10 billion
years none of it makes sense in its

1678
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:17,120
years none of it makes sense in its
 

1679
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,190
years none of it makes sense in its
scientific context text. You got made

1680
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:19,200
scientific context text. You got made
 

1681
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,269
scientific context text. You got made
fun of because you're a buffoon who

1682
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:21,279
fun of because you're a buffoon who
 

1683
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:22,710
fun of because you're a buffoon who
shouldn't be saying this [\h__\h] at any

1684
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:22,720
shouldn't be saying this [\h__\h] at any
 

1685
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,909
shouldn't be saying this [\h__\h] at any
kind of conference. I don't know what

1686
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:23,919
kind of conference. I don't know what
 

1687
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,909
kind of conference. I don't know what
conference you're talking about. Um, but

1688
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:25,919
conference you're talking about. Um, but
 

1689
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,430
conference you're talking about. Um, but
you should be heckled. You should be

1690
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:27,440
you should be heckled. You should be
 

1691
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,590
you should be heckled. You should be
ridiculed. These are insane,

1692
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:29,600
ridiculed. These are insane,
 

1693
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,950
ridiculed. These are insane,
indefensible statements. Sorry.

1694
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:32,960
indefensible statements. Sorry.
 

1695
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,350
indefensible statements. Sorry.
>> Now, I said the interesting thing is

1696
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:35,360
>> Now, I said the interesting thing is
 

1697
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,750
>> Now, I said the interesting thing is
that for centuries,

1698
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:37,760
that for centuries,
 

1699
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,509
that for centuries,
what we now call science was dominated

1700
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:41,519
what we now call science was dominated
 

1701
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,430
what we now call science was dominated
by the idea that matter, space was

1702
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:45,440
by the idea that matter, space was
 

1703
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,029
by the idea that matter, space was
eternal. because Aristotle held sway and

1704
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:49,039
eternal. because Aristotle held sway and
 

1705
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,750
eternal. because Aristotle held sway and
it was only in the 1960s

1706
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:51,760
it was only in the 1960s
 

1707
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,870
it was only in the 1960s
that the evidence started coming in that

1708
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:54,880
that the evidence started coming in that
 

1709
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,509
that the evidence started coming in that
there was a beginning now said in my

1710
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:57,519
there was a beginning now said in my
 

1711
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:01,029
there was a beginning now said in my
country of the UK it was resisted by the

1712
00:33:01,029 --> 00:33:01,039
country of the UK it was resisted by the
 

1713
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,230
country of the UK it was resisted by the
scientific establishment

1714
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:02,240
scientific establishment
 

1715
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,669
scientific establishment
>> and by Einstein himself

1716
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:03,679
>> and by Einstein himself
 

1717
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:05,190
>> and by Einstein himself
>> Einstein himself who did later change

1718
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:05,200
>> Einstein himself who did later change
 

1719
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,149
>> Einstein himself who did later change
his mind though which

1720
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:06,159
his mind though which
 

1721
00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:07,190
his mind though which
>> so this is this

1722
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:07,200
>> so this is this
 

1723
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,909
>> so this is this
>> Einstein Einstein himself got to got to

1724
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:09,919
>> Einstein Einstein himself got to got to
 

1725
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:11,830
>> Einstein Einstein himself got to got to
throw in that uh that that accurate

1726
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:11,840
throw in that uh that that accurate
 

1727
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,190
throw in that uh that that accurate
pronunciation um yeah so what happens is

1728
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:15,200
pronunciation um yeah so what happens is
 

1729
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,029
pronunciation um yeah so what happens is
the scientist ific community looks at

1730
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:17,039
the scientist ific community looks at
 

1731
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,029
the scientist ific community looks at
all the available evidence and when a

1732
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:19,039
all the available evidence and when a
 

1733
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,149
all the available evidence and when a
new hypothesis comes up a brand new idea

1734
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:22,159
new hypothesis comes up a brand new idea
 

1735
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:25,110
new hypothesis comes up a brand new idea
it takes time to gather evidence to

1736
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:25,120
it takes time to gather evidence to
 

1737
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,590
it takes time to gather evidence to
substantiate it once it was properly

1738
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:27,600
substantiate it once it was properly
 

1739
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,230
substantiate it once it was properly
substantiated the the main thing was the

1740
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:30,240
substantiated the the main thing was the
 

1741
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,149
substantiated the the main thing was the
cosmic microwave background radiation.

1742
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:32,159
cosmic microwave background radiation.
 

1743
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:34,710
cosmic microwave background radiation.
So until we had that, yes, you can look

1744
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:34,720
So until we had that, yes, you can look
 

1745
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,710
So until we had that, yes, you can look
at recession velocities of galaxies and

1746
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:36,720
at recession velocities of galaxies and
 

1747
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,230
at recession velocities of galaxies and
things like that, but the scientific

1748
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:38,240
things like that, but the scientific
 

1749
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,990
things like that, but the scientific
community isn't going to instantly go,

1750
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:40,000
community isn't going to instantly go,
 

1751
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,149
community isn't going to instantly go,
oh, obviously this new understanding is

1752
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:42,159
oh, obviously this new understanding is
 

1753
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,870
oh, obviously this new understanding is
true. more uh more science has to be

1754
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:44,880
true. more uh more science has to be
 

1755
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,269
true. more uh more science has to be
done, more data has to be gathered and

1756
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:47,279
done, more data has to be gathered and
 

1757
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,149
done, more data has to be gathered and
once the CMBB was understood, it was

1758
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:50,159
once the CMBB was understood, it was
 

1759
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,310
once the CMBB was understood, it was
pretty resound like like yeah okay this

1760
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:52,320
pretty resound like like yeah okay this
 

1761
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,110
pretty resound like like yeah okay this
looks to be this very very um very very

1762
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:57,120
looks to be this very very um very very
 

1763
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,549
looks to be this very very um very very
precisely matches the expectation out of

1764
00:34:00,549 --> 00:34:00,559
precisely matches the expectation out of
 

1765
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,789
precisely matches the expectation out of
this out of this uh big bang

1766
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:02,799
this out of this uh big bang
 

1767
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,029
this out of this uh big bang
cosmological model. We would expect to

1768
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:05,039
cosmological model. We would expect to
 

1769
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,310
cosmological model. We would expect to
see uh this this uh this artifact and it

1770
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:08,320
see uh this this uh this artifact and it
 

1771
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,470
see uh this this uh this artifact and it
would be stretched to precisely this uh

1772
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:10,480
would be stretched to precisely this uh
 

1773
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,349
would be stretched to precisely this uh
this temperature. So uh and the the the

1774
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:13,359
this temperature. So uh and the the the
 

1775
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:15,829
this temperature. So uh and the the the
the

1776
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:15,839
the
 

1777
00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:19,349
the
anisotropic uh aspect of it too. So just

1778
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:19,359
anisotropic uh aspect of it too. So just
 

1779
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,470
anisotropic uh aspect of it too. So just
once we got the enough empirical backing

1780
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:22,480
once we got the enough empirical backing
 

1781
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,149
once we got the enough empirical backing
for it, everybody was like, "Yeah, this

1782
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:24,159
for it, everybody was like, "Yeah, this
 

1783
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,829
for it, everybody was like, "Yeah, this
is it." Same with plate tectonics.

1784
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:25,839
is it." Same with plate tectonics.
 

1785
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:27,909
is it." Same with plate tectonics.
People bring up plate tectonics as an

1786
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:27,919
People bring up plate tectonics as an
 

1787
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,149
People bring up plate tectonics as an
example of the closedminded

1788
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:30,159
example of the closedminded
 

1789
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,869
example of the closedminded
establishment uh academia, mainstream

1790
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:32,879
establishment uh academia, mainstream
 

1791
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,990
establishment uh academia, mainstream
science. No, it was a new idea. And once

1792
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:36,000
science. No, it was a new idea. And once
 

1793
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,950
science. No, it was a new idea. And once
they found uh the magnetic striping on

1794
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:38,960
they found uh the magnetic striping on
 

1795
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,190
they found uh the magnetic striping on
either side of a mid oceanic rift, they

1796
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:41,200
either side of a mid oceanic rift, they
 

1797
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,669
either side of a mid oceanic rift, they
were like, "Fuck, well, that's that

1798
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:43,679
were like, "Fuck, well, that's that
 

1799
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,669
were like, "Fuck, well, that's that
seals it, right?" They were like, "If

1800
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:45,679
seals it, right?" They were like, "If
 

1801
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,909
seals it, right?" They were like, "If
this is true, we should see this along

1802
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:47,919
this is true, we should see this along
 

1803
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,589
this is true, we should see this along
the ridges." They did the [\h__\h]

1804
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:49,599
the ridges." They did the [\h__\h]
 

1805
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,270
the ridges." They did the [\h__\h]
measurements. They got the magnetic

1806
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:51,280
measurements. They got the magnetic
 

1807
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,750
measurements. They got the magnetic
striping which proves that that magma

1808
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:53,760
striping which proves that that magma
 

1809
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,589
striping which proves that that magma
was coming out of the that rift and that

1810
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:55,599
was coming out of the that rift and that
 

1811
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,790
was coming out of the that rift and that
was pushing the plates. Um once we had

1812
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:58,800
was pushing the plates. Um once we had
 

1813
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,349
was pushing the plates. Um once we had
once once you have very firm, undeniable

1814
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:01,359
once once you have very firm, undeniable
 

1815
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:03,670
once once you have very firm, undeniable
empirical evidence, everybody switches,

1816
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:03,680
empirical evidence, everybody switches,
 

1817
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,510
empirical evidence, everybody switches,
right? Even the skeptics, even the ones

1818
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:05,520
right? Even the skeptics, even the ones
 

1819
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,589
right? Even the skeptics, even the ones
that are like, "Well, find that and then

1820
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:07,599
that are like, "Well, find that and then
 

1821
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:08,550
that are like, "Well, find that and then
I'll believe it." And then they do and

1822
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:08,560
I'll believe it." And then they do and
 

1823
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,430
I'll believe it." And then they do and
they're like, "Well, [\h__\h] me." All

1824
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:09,440
they're like, "Well, [\h__\h] me." All
 

1825
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,790
they're like, "Well, [\h__\h] me." All
right, then. Yeah, you're right. That

1826
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:10,800
right, then. Yeah, you're right. That
 

1827
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,030
right, then. Yeah, you're right. That
had to be the case. So, this is just

1828
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:13,040
had to be the case. So, this is just
 

1829
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,430
had to be the case. So, this is just
another This is just all of this anti-

1830
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:15,440
another This is just all of this anti-
 

1831
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,430
another This is just all of this anti-
anti-establishment rhetoric, right? this

1832
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:17,440
anti-establishment rhetoric, right? this
 

1833
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,430
anti-establishment rhetoric, right? this
idea of mainstream. They have to paint

1834
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:19,440
idea of mainstream. They have to paint
 

1835
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,470
idea of mainstream. They have to paint
this idea of a closed-minded mainstream

1836
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:22,480
this idea of a closed-minded mainstream
 

1837
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,430
this idea of a closed-minded mainstream
and then some rebel outlier trutht

1838
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:25,440
and then some rebel outlier trutht
 

1839
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,230
and then some rebel outlier trutht
teller uh Luke Skywalker going against

1840
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:28,240
teller uh Luke Skywalker going against
 

1841
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,630
teller uh Luke Skywalker going against
the grain with the new super secret hot

1842
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:30,640
the grain with the new super secret hot
 

1843
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,910
the grain with the new super secret hot
truth because that's how they have to

1844
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:31,920
truth because that's how they have to
 

1845
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,069
truth because that's how they have to
portray themselves because they spew hot

1846
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:34,079
portray themselves because they spew hot
 

1847
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:35,750
portray themselves because they spew hot
gibberish that's very obvious religious

1848
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:35,760
gibberish that's very obvious religious
 

1849
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,270
gibberish that's very obvious religious
propaganda that contradicts well

1850
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:37,280
propaganda that contradicts well
 

1851
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,030
propaganda that contradicts well
understood science. That's all they do.

1852
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:39,040
understood science. That's all they do.
 

1853
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,190
understood science. That's all they do.
Um so they need the story. They and they

1854
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:41,200
Um so they need the story. They and they
 

1855
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,750
Um so they need the story. They and they
and they they need the story so bad that

1856
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:43,760
and they they need the story so bad that
 

1857
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,349
and they they need the story so bad that
they try to tell the story from within

1858
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:45,359
they try to tell the story from within
 

1859
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:46,870
they try to tell the story from within
the history of science, but they're

1860
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:46,880
the history of science, but they're
 

1861
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,630
the history of science, but they're
lying every time when they do that. Once

1862
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:48,640
lying every time when they do that. Once
 

1863
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,310
lying every time when they do that. Once
they got the CMBB, okay, Big Bang

1864
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:50,320
they got the CMBB, okay, Big Bang
 

1865
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,550
they got the CMBB, okay, Big Bang
Cosmology is very very clear. And uh and

1866
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:52,560
Cosmology is very very clear. And uh and
 

1867
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,550
Cosmology is very very clear. And uh and
again, none of it substantiates any of

1868
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:54,560
again, none of it substantiates any of
 

1869
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,310
again, none of it substantiates any of
their propaganda. Yes, we understand now

1870
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:56,320
their propaganda. Yes, we understand now
 

1871
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,310
their propaganda. Yes, we understand now
that the universe almost certainly had a

1872
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:58,320
that the universe almost certainly had a
 

1873
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,230
that the universe almost certainly had a
beginning. And we don't know how that

1874
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:00,240
beginning. And we don't know how that
 

1875
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,550
beginning. And we don't know how that
singularity came to be or what was there

1876
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:02,560
singularity came to be or what was there
 

1877
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,230
singularity came to be or what was there
before, if that makes any sense to ask,

1878
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:04,240
before, if that makes any sense to ask,
 

1879
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,310
before, if that makes any sense to ask,
right? There's there's questions that

1880
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:06,320
right? There's there's questions that
 

1881
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,270
right? There's there's questions that
remain uh to be answered, but um none of

1882
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:09,280
remain uh to be answered, but um none of
 

1883
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,790
remain uh to be answered, but um none of
it supports any of this crap.

1884
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:10,800
it supports any of this crap.
 

1885
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,910
it supports any of this crap.
>> The notion of a big bang, if the proper

1886
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:13,920
>> The notion of a big bang, if the proper
 

1887
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,069
>> The notion of a big bang, if the proper
way to understand it, even though

1888
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:16,079
way to understand it, even though
 

1889
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,069
way to understand it, even though
there's a lot of math involved, this is

1890
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:18,079
there's a lot of math involved, this is
 

1891
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:19,990
there's a lot of math involved, this is
a this is strictly speaking a scientific

1892
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:20,000
a this is strictly speaking a scientific
 

1893
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,230
a this is strictly speaking a scientific
finding. This is an empirical finding.

1894
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:22,240
finding. This is an empirical finding.
 

1895
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,710
finding. This is an empirical finding.
No philosopher

1896
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:24,720
No philosopher
 

1897
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,230
No philosopher
on the contrary, Aristotle didn't

1898
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:26,240
on the contrary, Aristotle didn't
 

1899
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:27,910
on the contrary, Aristotle didn't
predict it. We discovered it. Is that

1900
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:27,920
predict it. We discovered it. Is that
 

1901
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,109
predict it. We discovered it. Is that
fair?

1902
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:29,119
fair?
 

1903
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,430
fair?
>> Yeah, I think we we discovered evidence

1904
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:31,440
>> Yeah, I think we we discovered evidence
 

1905
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,790
>> Yeah, I think we we discovered evidence
for it in the 1950s. Most scientists

1906
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:34,800
for it in the 1950s. Most scientists
 

1907
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,349
for it in the 1950s. Most scientists
didn't believe it. It wasn't until 1964

1908
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:37,359
didn't believe it. It wasn't until 1964
 

1909
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:39,270
didn't believe it. It wasn't until 1964
with this discovery of the microwave

1910
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:39,280
with this discovery of the microwave
 

1911
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,150
with this discovery of the microwave
background radiation.

1912
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:40,160
background radiation.
 

1913
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,190
background radiation.
>> Okay, that's another point. The

1914
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:41,200
>> Okay, that's another point. The
 

1915
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,349
>> Okay, that's another point. The
microwave background radiation. Tell me

1916
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:43,359
microwave background radiation. Tell me
 

1917
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:43,990
microwave background radiation. Tell me
what that means.

1918
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:44,000
what that means.
 

1919
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,069
what that means.
>> That was the convincing argument. This

1920
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:46,079
>> That was the convincing argument. This
 

1921
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:47,910
>> That was the convincing argument. This
same thing that Steve talked about that

1922
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:47,920
same thing that Steve talked about that
 

1923
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,270
same thing that Steve talked about that
they that

1924
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:49,280
they that
 

1925
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,349
they that
>> it's different from the red shift. Is it

1926
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:51,359
>> it's different from the red shift. Is it
 

1927
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,109
>> it's different from the red shift. Is it
or separate line of evidence that

1928
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:53,119
or separate line of evidence that
 

1929
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:54,630
or separate line of evidence that
provides additional confirmation at the

1930
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:54,640
provides additional confirmation at the
 

1931
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,030
provides additional confirmation at the
beginning?

1932
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:55,040
beginning?
 

1933
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,030
beginning?
>> Yeah. Myers's like, "Chill out, James.

1934
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:57,040
>> Yeah. Myers's like, "Chill out, James.
 

1935
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,790
>> Yeah. Myers's like, "Chill out, James.
This is not your wheelhouse. Let me step

1936
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:58,800
This is not your wheelhouse. Let me step
 

1937
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,190
This is not your wheelhouse. Let me step
in here." I love the [\h__\h] like the

1938
00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:01,200
in here." I love the [\h__\h] like the
 

1939
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,870
in here." I love the [\h__\h] like the
perplexed look he's given. just like,

1940
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:02,880
perplexed look he's given. just like,
 

1941
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,550
perplexed look he's given. just like,
"Oh, don't don't call on me. Don't call

1942
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:04,560
"Oh, don't don't call on me. Don't call
 

1943
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,950
"Oh, don't don't call on me. Don't call
on me. Don't call on me." And he knew

1944
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:06,960
on me. Don't call on me." And he knew
 

1945
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,630
on me. Don't call on me." And he knew
the right answer. He knew the CMBB, but

1946
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:08,640
the right answer. He knew the CMBB, but
 

1947
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,310
the right answer. He knew the CMBB, but
he's also debunking himself. It's like

1948
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:10,320
he's also debunking himself. It's like
 

1949
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,829
he's also debunking himself. It's like
people before the evidence that very

1950
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:13,839
people before the evidence that very
 

1951
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:16,310
people before the evidence that very
strongly corroborated Big Bang cosmology

1952
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:16,320
strongly corroborated Big Bang cosmology
 

1953
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,630
strongly corroborated Big Bang cosmology
didn't fully accept Big Bang cosmology.

1954
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:18,640
didn't fully accept Big Bang cosmology.
 

1955
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,109
didn't fully accept Big Bang cosmology.
Only after the evidence corroborated the

1956
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:21,119
Only after the evidence corroborated the
 

1957
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,109
Only after the evidence corroborated the
model did they accept the model. Like,

1958
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:23,119
model did they accept the model. Like,
 

1959
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,510
model did they accept the model. Like,
gee, is that exactly how science [\h__\h]

1960
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:25,520
gee, is that exactly how science [\h__\h]
 

1961
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,829
gee, is that exactly how science [\h__\h]
works? Yeah, I guess it is, isn't it?

1962
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:27,839
works? Yeah, I guess it is, isn't it?
 

1963
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:30,230
works? Yeah, I guess it is, isn't it?
Okay, Meer, play a rescue. Let's go.

1964
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:30,240
Okay, Meer, play a rescue. Let's go.
 

1965
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,390
Okay, Meer, play a rescue. Let's go.
>> Yeah. So, so there was there was further

1966
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:32,400
>> Yeah. So, so there was there was further
 

1967
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,870
>> Yeah. So, so there was there was further
confirmation and so so I the the

1968
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:34,880
confirmation and so so I the the
 

1969
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,190
confirmation and so so I the the
scientific community was not there and

1970
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:37,200
scientific community was not there and
 

1971
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,430
scientific community was not there and
then all of a sudden it started it

1972
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:39,440
then all of a sudden it started it
 

1973
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,190
then all of a sudden it started it
started changing in the early60s.

1974
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:41,200
started changing in the early60s.
 

1975
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,430
started changing in the early60s.
>> Okay.

1976
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:41,440
>> Okay.
 

1977
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,990
>> Okay.
>> Peter, can I take just another quick hit

1978
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:44,000
>> Peter, can I take just another quick hit
 

1979
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,430
>> Peter, can I take just another quick hit
cut at the the uh uh the Steven Hawking

1980
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:47,440
cut at the the uh uh the Steven Hawking
 

1981
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,390
cut at the the uh uh the Steven Hawking
result

1982
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:48,400
result
 

1983
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,829
result
>> because what Hawking is doing

1984
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:49,839
>> because what Hawking is doing
 

1985
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:51,349
>> because what Hawking is doing
>> he resisted it himself, didn't he?

1986
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:51,359
>> he resisted it himself, didn't he?
 

1987
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:53,829
>> he resisted it himself, didn't he?
>> Later after he proved this singularity

1988
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:53,839
>> Later after he proved this singularity
 

1989
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:55,270
>> Later after he proved this singularity
theorem then he wasn't quite sure. He

1990
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:55,280
theorem then he wasn't quite sure. He
 

1991
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,589
theorem then he wasn't quite sure. He
liked the his own result. Yes. But the

1992
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:57,599
liked the his own result. Yes. But the
 

1993
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,430
liked the his own result. Yes. But the
basic idea is actually quite intuitive.

1994
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:59,440
basic idea is actually quite intuitive.
 

1995
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,190
basic idea is actually quite intuitive.
Um, according to Einstein's theory of

1996
00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:01,200
Um, according to Einstein's theory of
 

1997
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,109
Um, according to Einstein's theory of
general relativity, which is it was

1998
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:03,119
general relativity, which is it was
 

1999
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,510
general relativity, which is it was
which is just a theory of gravity,

2000
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:05,520
which is just a theory of gravity,
 

2001
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,230
which is just a theory of gravity,
massive bodies curve the fabric of space

2002
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:08,240
massive bodies curve the fabric of space
 

2003
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,030
massive bodies curve the fabric of space
or what's called spacetime. And Hawking

2004
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:11,040
or what's called spacetime. And Hawking
 

2005
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,550
or what's called spacetime. And Hawking
realized he was studying black hole

2006
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:12,560
realized he was studying black hole
 

2007
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,510
realized he was studying black hole
physics in the 1960s. And he realized

2008
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:15,520
physics in the 1960s. And he realized
 

2009
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,829
physics in the 1960s. And he realized
that in the forward direction of time,

2010
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:17,839
that in the forward direction of time,
 

2011
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:20,069
that in the forward direction of time,
matter according to the astronomers was

2012
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:20,079
matter according to the astronomers was
 

2013
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:21,589
matter according to the astronomers was
getting more and more diffuse as the as

2014
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:21,599
getting more and more diffuse as the as
 

2015
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,230
getting more and more diffuse as the as
the universe expanded, which meant that

2016
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:24,240
the universe expanded, which meant that
 

2017
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,670
the universe expanded, which meant that
it was getting the curvature of the

2018
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:25,680
it was getting the curvature of the
 

2019
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,030
it was getting the curvature of the
universe was getting less and less

2020
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:27,040
universe was getting less and less
 

2021
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,950
universe was getting less and less
pronounced. But in the reverse direction

2022
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:28,960
pronounced. But in the reverse direction
 

2023
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,870
pronounced. But in the reverse direction
of time there would the matter would

2024
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:30,880
of time there would the matter would
 

2025
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,069
of time there would the matter would
have been more and more densely

2026
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:32,079
have been more and more densely
 

2027
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:33,910
have been more and more densely
concentrated. And so as you go back

2028
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:33,920
concentrated. And so as you go back
 

2029
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,910
concentrated. And so as you go back
further and further and further that

2030
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:35,920
further and further and further that
 

2031
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,310
further and further and further that
more densely concentrated

2032
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:38,320
more densely concentrated
 

2033
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,790
more densely concentrated
uh matter of the universe is causing the

2034
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:40,800
uh matter of the universe is causing the
 

2035
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,390
uh matter of the universe is causing the
space of the universe to become more and

2036
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:42,400
space of the universe to become more and
 

2037
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,310
space of the universe to become more and
more tightly curved. And if you go back

2038
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:44,320
more tightly curved. And if you go back
 

2039
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,990
more tightly curved. And if you go back
far enough, you eventually reach a

2040
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:46,000
far enough, you eventually reach a
 

2041
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,390
far enough, you eventually reach a
limiting case where you where you can't

2042
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:48,400
limiting case where you where you can't
 

2043
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,990
limiting case where you where you can't
go back any further because the matter

2044
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:50,000
go back any further because the matter
 

2045
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,910
go back any further because the matter
is so densely concentrated it becomes

2046
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:51,920
is so densely concentrated it becomes
 

2047
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,750
is so densely concentrated it becomes
infinitely dense and the curvature goes

2048
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:53,760
infinitely dense and the curvature goes
 

2049
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,190
infinitely dense and the curvature goes
to an infinite and at that point the

2050
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:55,200
to an infinite and at that point the
 

2051
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,950
to an infinite and at that point the
laws of physics break down and that's

2052
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:56,960
laws of physics break down and that's
 

2053
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,990
laws of physics break down and that's
what marks the beginning of the

2054
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:58,000
what marks the beginning of the
 

2055
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,190
what marks the beginning of the
universe.

2056
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:59,200
universe.
 

2057
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,950
universe.
>> All right. Um so we have here I said

2058
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:02,960
>> All right. Um so we have here I said
 

2059
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,470
>> All right. Um so we have here I said
we're going to go work our way through

2060
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:04,480
we're going to go work our way through
 

2061
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,470
we're going to go work our way through
three of these scientific developments

2062
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:06,480
three of these scientific developments
 

2063
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,990
three of these scientific developments
but again but John has already touched

2064
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:08,000
but again but John has already touched
 

2065
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,069
but again but John has already touched
on this the challenge to a purely

2066
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:10,079
on this the challenge to a purely
 

2067
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,470
on this the challenge to a purely
materialist view of the universe from

2068
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:12,480
materialist view of the universe from
 

2069
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,390
materialist view of the universe from
the big bang. if I have it right is that

2070
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:18,400

 

2071
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,230

there must have been a first mover where

2072
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:20,240
there must have been a first mover where
 

2073
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,829
there must have been a first mover where
if there was a beginning somebody

2074
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:21,839
if there was a beginning somebody
 

2075
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:23,349
if there was a beginning somebody
something had to begin it that's the

2076
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:23,359
something had to begin it that's the
 

2077
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:24,310
something had to begin it that's the
question at least at

2078
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:24,320
question at least at
 

2079
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,390
question at least at
>> matter space time and energy begin at a

2080
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:26,400
>> matter space time and energy begin at a
 

2081
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,030
>> matter space time and energy begin at a
finite time ago then before that or

2082
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:29,040
finite time ago then before that or
 

2083
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,790
finite time ago then before that or
independent of that there is no matter

2084
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:30,800
independent of that there is no matter
 

2085
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,870
independent of that there is no matter
to do the causing so you can't have a

2086
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:32,880
to do the causing so you can't have a
 

2087
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,550
to do the causing so you can't have a
materialistic explanation for the origin

2088
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:34,560
materialistic explanation for the origin
 

2089
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,829
materialistic explanation for the origin
of matter itself

2090
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:35,839
of matter itself
 

2091
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:39,190
of matter itself
>> I love the the gotcha smile so uh they

2092
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:39,200
>> I love the the gotcha smile so uh they
 

2093
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,390
>> I love the the gotcha smile so uh they
so Meyer harps on the origin of the

2094
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:42,400
so Meyer harps on the origin of the
 

2095
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,349
so Meyer harps on the origin of the
universe

2096
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:43,359
universe
 

2097
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:46,390
universe
because it is the most mysterious aspect

2098
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:46,400
because it is the most mysterious aspect
 

2099
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,710
because it is the most mysterious aspect
of modern science, right? We that we

2100
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:48,720
of modern science, right? We that we
 

2101
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,630
of modern science, right? We that we
have models that describe the very

2102
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:50,640
have models that describe the very
 

2103
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,589
have models that describe the very
beginning and almost the origin the the

2104
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:53,599
beginning and almost the origin the the
 

2105
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,430
beginning and almost the origin the the
t equals zero origin of the universe and

2106
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:55,440
t equals zero origin of the universe and
 

2107
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,750
t equals zero origin of the universe and
then obviously uh developing from there

2108
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:57,760
then obviously uh developing from there
 

2109
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,109
then obviously uh developing from there
um is astounding. It's absolutely

2110
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:59,119
um is astounding. It's absolutely
 

2111
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:00,470
um is astounding. It's absolutely
incredible that we understand anything

2112
00:40:00,470 --> 00:40:00,480
incredible that we understand anything
 

2113
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,910
incredible that we understand anything
about the origin and development of the

2114
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:01,920
about the origin and development of the
 

2115
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,069
about the origin and development of the
universe. Um but we all have to admit

2116
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:04,079
universe. Um but we all have to admit
 

2117
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,150
universe. Um but we all have to admit
that we don't know t equals zero. We

2118
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:06,160
that we don't know t equals zero. We
 

2119
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,470
that we don't know t equals zero. We
don't know what happened. Um but the the

2120
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:08,480
don't know what happened. Um but the the
 

2121
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,870
don't know what happened. Um but the the
flaw the the crucial flaw in the logic

2122
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:10,880
flaw the the crucial flaw in the logic
 

2123
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,670
flaw the the crucial flaw in the logic
here is to um is to sew the seeds of of

2124
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:15,680
here is to um is to sew the seeds of of
 

2125
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,230
here is to um is to sew the seeds of of
discomfort, right? The the idea of a

2126
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:18,240
discomfort, right? The the idea of a
 

2127
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,790
discomfort, right? The the idea of a
universe existing without cause is

2128
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:20,800
universe existing without cause is
 

2129
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,310
universe existing without cause is
illogical and unintuitive. Um but the

2130
00:40:24,310 --> 00:40:24,320
illogical and unintuitive. Um but the
 

2131
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,390
illogical and unintuitive. Um but the
idea that there has to then have been a

2132
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:26,400
idea that there has to then have been a
 

2133
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,670
idea that there has to then have been a
deity, an infinitely more complex deity

2134
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:29,680
deity, an infinitely more complex deity
 

2135
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,230
deity, an infinitely more complex deity
to kick it off in some way um also is

2136
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:34,240
to kick it off in some way um also is
 

2137
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,310
to kick it off in some way um also is
without logic, right? because you you're

2138
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:36,320
without logic, right? because you you're
 

2139
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,710
without logic, right? because you you're
refusing to then describe uh you're

2140
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:38,720
refusing to then describe uh you're
 

2141
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,230
refusing to then describe uh you're
absolving yourself of of the

2142
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:40,240
absolving yourself of of the
 

2143
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,990
absolving yourself of of the
responsibility of describing the origin

2144
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:42,000
responsibility of describing the origin
 

2145
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,750
responsibility of describing the origin
or explanation or cause of of that

2146
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:43,760
or explanation or cause of of that
 

2147
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,750
or explanation or cause of of that
deity. So, it doesn't work to say a

2148
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:45,760
deity. So, it doesn't work to say a
 

2149
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,750
deity. So, it doesn't work to say a
universe can't exist without cause.

2150
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:47,760
universe can't exist without cause.
 

2151
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,150
universe can't exist without cause.
Therefore, a deity exists without cause

2152
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:50,160
Therefore, a deity exists without cause
 

2153
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,829
Therefore, a deity exists without cause
to have caused the universe. You're just

2154
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:51,839
to have caused the universe. You're just
 

2155
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:53,589
to have caused the universe. You're just
kicking the can down, right? Who who

2156
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:53,599
kicking the can down, right? Who who
 

2157
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,550
kicking the can down, right? Who who
made the god? And so, they obviously try

2158
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:56,560
made the god? And so, they obviously try
 

2159
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,150
made the god? And so, they obviously try
to um intellectualize their their

2160
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:00,160
to um intellectualize their their
 

2161
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,550
to um intellectualize their their
logical their illogical position as much

2162
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:02,560
logical their illogical position as much
 

2163
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,470
logical their illogical position as much
as possible. And so say, "Oh, well, the

2164
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:04,480
as possible. And so say, "Oh, well, the
 

2165
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,470
as possible. And so say, "Oh, well, the
universe exists with time and only

2166
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:06,480
universe exists with time and only
 

2167
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,950
universe exists with time and only
things that that have a beginning have

2168
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:08,960
things that that have a beginning have
 

2169
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,109
things that that have a beginning have
to be caused by something." God always

2170
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:11,119
to be caused by something." God always
 

2171
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,990
to be caused by something." God always
existed uh exists out or either always

2172
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:14,000
existed uh exists out or either always
 

2173
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,390
existed uh exists out or either always
existed or exists outside of time or

2174
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:16,400
existed or exists outside of time or
 

2175
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,990
existed or exists outside of time or
some other thing. That also doesn't make

2176
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:18,000
some other thing. That also doesn't make
 

2177
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,069
some other thing. That also doesn't make
any sense. Just a second ago, Lennox was

2178
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:20,079
any sense. Just a second ago, Lennox was
 

2179
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,750
any sense. Just a second ago, Lennox was
talking about mathematicians proving

2180
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:21,760
talking about mathematicians proving
 

2181
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,309
talking about mathematicians proving
that infinite regress is impossible. So

2182
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:24,319
that infinite regress is impossible. So
 

2183
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,150
that infinite regress is impossible. So
having a god that exists infinitely

2184
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:26,160
having a god that exists infinitely
 

2185
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,990
having a god that exists infinitely
backwards in time doesn't make any

2186
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:28,000
backwards in time doesn't make any
 

2187
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,910
backwards in time doesn't make any
sense. If you want to say that God

2188
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:29,920
sense. If you want to say that God
 

2189
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,390
sense. If you want to say that God
exists outside of time or something like

2190
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:32,400
exists outside of time or something like
 

2191
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,710
exists outside of time or something like
that also does not make any sense,

2192
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:34,720
that also does not make any sense,
 

2193
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,470
that also does not make any sense,
right? I mean, it there there's not

2194
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:36,480
right? I mean, it there there's not
 

2195
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,309
right? I mean, it there there's not
really any basis for saying that

2196
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:38,319
really any basis for saying that
 

2197
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:41,190
really any basis for saying that
existing outside of time makes any is

2198
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:41,200
existing outside of time makes any is
 

2199
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,790
existing outside of time makes any is
logically coherent at all anymore than a

2200
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:44,800
logically coherent at all anymore than a
 

2201
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,430
logically coherent at all anymore than a
universe existing without cause. So, we

2202
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:47,440
universe existing without cause. So, we
 

2203
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,270
universe existing without cause. So, we
do have to we do have to admit that it

2204
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:49,280
do have to we do have to admit that it
 

2205
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,589
do have to we do have to admit that it
is a conundrum, right? the the conundrum

2206
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:51,599
is a conundrum, right? the the conundrum
 

2207
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,470
is a conundrum, right? the the conundrum
as to why anything exists at all, the

2208
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:54,480
as to why anything exists at all, the
 

2209
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,470
as to why anything exists at all, the
universe or a deity or whatever the [\h__\h]

2210
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:56,480
universe or a deity or whatever the [\h__\h]
 

2211
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,550
universe or a deity or whatever the [\h__\h]
you believe. Why does anything exist at

2212
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:58,560
you believe. Why does anything exist at
 

2213
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,430
you believe. Why does anything exist at
all is a perplexing a perplexing

2214
00:42:01,430 --> 00:42:01,440
all is a perplexing a perplexing
 

2215
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,750
all is a perplexing a perplexing
question with with that is in the realm

2216
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:03,760
question with with that is in the realm
 

2217
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,150
question with with that is in the realm
of philosophy, right? And it uh we

2218
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:06,160
of philosophy, right? And it uh we
 

2219
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,790
of philosophy, right? And it uh we
certainly cannot disprove a deity of

2220
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:08,800
certainly cannot disprove a deity of
 

2221
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,670
certainly cannot disprove a deity of
some kind that decided to go poof. Uh

2222
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:11,680
some kind that decided to go poof. Uh
 

2223
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,430
some kind that decided to go poof. Uh
let's have the universe now. We can

2224
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:13,440
let's have the universe now. We can
 

2225
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,190
let's have the universe now. We can
certainly prove it's not the Abrahamic

2226
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:15,200
certainly prove it's not the Abrahamic
 

2227
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,790
certainly prove it's not the Abrahamic
God. It's not that piece of [\h__\h]

2228
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:16,800
God. It's not that piece of [\h__\h]
 

2229
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,750
God. It's not that piece of [\h__\h]
genocidal allloving God. Uh so it's ne

2230
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:19,760
genocidal allloving God. Uh so it's ne
 

2231
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,510
genocidal allloving God. Uh so it's ne
not the god that they want their viewers

2232
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:21,520
not the god that they want their viewers
 

2233
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,870
not the god that they want their viewers
to to uh to to land on. Um but we cannot

2234
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:24,880
to to uh to to land on. Um but we cannot
 

2235
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,109
to to uh to to land on. Um but we cannot
disprove any concept of any deity.

2236
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:27,119
disprove any concept of any deity.
 

2237
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,230
disprove any concept of any deity.
However, this argument of just there has

2238
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:30,240
However, this argument of just there has
 

2239
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,829
However, this argument of just there has
to have been something to cause the

2240
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:31,839
to have been something to cause the
 

2241
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:33,510
to have been something to cause the
universe, but the thing that caused it

2242
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:33,520
universe, but the thing that caused it
 

2243
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,589
universe, but the thing that caused it
is this other deity and I don't have to

2244
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:35,599
is this other deity and I don't have to
 

2245
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,150
is this other deity and I don't have to
explain its cause is [\h__\h] idiotic.

2246
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:38,160
explain its cause is [\h__\h] idiotic.
 

2247
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,990
explain its cause is [\h__\h] idiotic.
It's a copout. It's just a copout. um to

2248
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:42,000
It's a copout. It's just a copout. um to
 

2249
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,790
It's a copout. It's just a copout. um to
land at the predetermined conclusion the

2250
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:44,800
land at the predetermined conclusion the
 

2251
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,630
land at the predetermined conclusion the
Christian God is real and now we're

2252
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:46,640
Christian God is real and now we're
 

2253
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,150
Christian God is real and now we're
going to take over the government

2254
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:48,160
going to take over the government
 

2255
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,910
going to take over the government
Christian theocrats and brace yourself

2256
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:49,920
Christian theocrats and brace yourself
 

2257
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,870
Christian theocrats and brace yourself
for an Orwellian dystopian nightmare. Um

2258
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:52,880
for an Orwellian dystopian nightmare. Um
 

2259
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,630
for an Orwellian dystopian nightmare. Um
never forget that is who Discovery

2260
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:54,640
never forget that is who Discovery
 

2261
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,390
never forget that is who Discovery
Institute works for. That is who they

2262
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:56,400
Institute works for. That is who they
 

2263
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,230
Institute works for. That is who they
are pushing this propaganda for. The

2264
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:58,240
are pushing this propaganda for. The
 

2265
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,109
are pushing this propaganda for. The
people who are in Project 2025, they are

2266
00:43:01,109 --> 00:43:01,119
people who are in Project 2025, they are
 

2267
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,670
people who are in Project 2025, they are
in bed with with Project 2025 people.

2268
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:03,680
in bed with with Project 2025 people.
 

2269
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,230
in bed with with Project 2025 people.
They are the intellectual arm of that

2270
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:06,240
They are the intellectual arm of that
 

2271
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:07,829
They are the intellectual arm of that
propaganda. They are trying to

2272
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:07,839
propaganda. They are trying to
 

2273
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:09,589
propaganda. They are trying to
intellectualize

2274
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:09,599
intellectualize
 

2275
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,710
intellectualize
uh all of sewing the seeds of doubt in

2276
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:12,720
uh all of sewing the seeds of doubt in
 

2277
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,430
uh all of sewing the seeds of doubt in
in mainstream science also known as

2278
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:15,440
in mainstream science also known as
 

2279
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,390
in mainstream science also known as
science. Uh so that's that's that's what

2280
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:18,400
science. Uh so that's that's that's what
 

2281
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,470
science. Uh so that's that's that's what
this is. Don't fall for it.

2282
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:20,480
this is. Don't fall for it.
 

2283
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,790
this is. Don't fall for it.
>> Got it. All right. Fine-tuning. This is

2284
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:22,800
>> Got it. All right. Fine-tuning. This is
 

2285
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,069
>> Got it. All right. Fine-tuning. This is
the second of the three developments.

2286
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:24,079
the second of the three developments.
 

2287
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:25,510
the second of the three developments.
Once again, we'll we'll begin with an

2288
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:25,520
Once again, we'll we'll begin with an
 

2289
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,230
Once again, we'll we'll begin with an
excerpt from the story of everything.

2290
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:28,240
excerpt from the story of everything.
 

2291
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,550
excerpt from the story of everything.
The basic idea of fine-tuning is that

2292
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:30,560
The basic idea of fine-tuning is that
 

2293
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,190
The basic idea of fine-tuning is that
the universe is just so that its

2294
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:33,200
the universe is just so that its
 

2295
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,349
the universe is just so that its
properties, the initial conditions, the

2296
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:35,359
properties, the initial conditions, the
 

2297
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:38,150
properties, the initial conditions, the
so-called constants of physics, the laws

2298
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:38,160
so-called constants of physics, the laws
 

2299
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,030
so-called constants of physics, the laws
of nature, uh, rest on a razor's edge so

2300
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:41,040
of nature, uh, rest on a razor's edge so
 

2301
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,550
of nature, uh, rest on a razor's edge so
that if they were slightly different

2302
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:42,560
that if they were slightly different
 

2303
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,190
that if they were slightly different
than they are in the actual universe,

2304
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:45,200
than they are in the actual universe,
 

2305
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,710
than they are in the actual universe,
the universe would not be habitable.

2306
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:46,720
the universe would not be habitable.
 

2307
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:47,270
the universe would not be habitable.
That is,

2308
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:47,280
That is,
 

2309
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,030
That is,
>> it's fun when philosophers try to

2310
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:49,040
>> it's fun when philosophers try to
 

2311
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,950
>> it's fun when philosophers try to
pretend to understand frontier uh,

2312
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:50,960
pretend to understand frontier uh,
 

2313
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,950
pretend to understand frontier uh,
astrophysics and theoretical physics.

2314
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:52,960
astrophysics and theoretical physics.
 

2315
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,390
astrophysics and theoretical physics.
Let's let him get his spiel out.

2316
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:54,400
Let's let him get his spiel out.
 

2317
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,309
Let's let him get his spiel out.
>> Is it would not be compatible with life.

2318
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:56,319
>> Is it would not be compatible with life.
 

2319
00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:57,829
>> Is it would not be compatible with life.
What's he talking about? What are what

2320
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:57,839
What's he talking about? What are what
 

2321
00:43:57,839 --> 00:43:59,910
What's he talking about? What are what
kind g give us some sense of the kinds

2322
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:59,920
kind g give us some sense of the kinds
 

2323
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,710
kind g give us some sense of the kinds
of parameters?

2324
00:44:00,710 --> 00:44:00,720
of parameters?
 

2325
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,550
of parameters?
>> Well, the fi the finetuning idea is just

2326
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:02,560
>> Well, the fi the finetuning idea is just
 

2327
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,790
>> Well, the fi the finetuning idea is just
the idea that that the basic parameters

2328
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:04,800
the idea that that the basic parameters
 

2329
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,190
the idea that that the basic parameters
of physics fall within very narrow

2330
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:07,200
of physics fall within very narrow
 

2331
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,950
of physics fall within very narrow
ranges outside of which life even stable

2332
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:10,960
ranges outside of which life even stable
 

2333
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,870
ranges outside of which life even stable
galaxies even basic chemistry would be

2334
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:12,880
galaxies even basic chemistry would be
 

2335
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,630
galaxies even basic chemistry would be
impossible. So we've been talking about

2336
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:14,640
impossible. So we've been talking about
 

2337
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,309
impossible. So we've been talking about
the expansion of the universe. It turns

2338
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:16,319
the expansion of the universe. It turns
 

2339
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,309
the expansion of the universe. It turns
out that the force that is responsible

2340
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:18,319
out that the force that is responsible
 

2341
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,069
out that the force that is responsible
for that expansion call it called the

2342
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:20,079
for that expansion call it called the
 

2343
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,870
for that expansion call it called the
cosmological constant is fine-tuned to

2344
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:22,880
cosmological constant is fine-tuned to
 

2345
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,790
cosmological constant is fine-tuned to
something like one part in 10 to the

2346
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:24,800
something like one part in 10 to the
 

2347
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,230
something like one part in 10 to the
90th power. Little

2348
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:26,240
90th power. Little
 

2349
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,510
90th power. Little
>> Yeah. So [\h__\h] So um anytime they

2350
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:29,520
>> Yeah. So [\h__\h] So um anytime they
 

2351
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,230
>> Yeah. So [\h__\h] So um anytime they
try to assign these concrete values, uh

2352
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:32,240
try to assign these concrete values, uh
 

2353
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,710
try to assign these concrete values, uh
it's always baseless. It's always

2354
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:34,720
it's always baseless. It's always
 

2355
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,910
it's always baseless. It's always
baseless [\h__\h] Um they it is the big

2356
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:37,920
baseless [\h__\h] Um they it is the big
 

2357
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,390
baseless [\h__\h] Um they it is the big
scary numbers game. They always try to

2358
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:40,400
scary numbers game. They always try to
 

2359
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,670
scary numbers game. They always try to
it doesn't matter what they're talking

2360
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:41,680
it doesn't matter what they're talking
 

2361
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,589
it doesn't matter what they're talking
about. It's the chance of a protein

2362
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:43,599
about. It's the chance of a protein
 

2363
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,750
about. It's the chance of a protein
forming or the the the precision of the

2364
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:45,760
forming or the the the precision of the
 

2365
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,829
forming or the the the precision of the
cosmological constant. They always need

2366
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:47,839
cosmological constant. They always need
 

2367
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:51,109
cosmological constant. They always need
to put in chances are 1 in 10 to the 11d

2368
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:51,119
to put in chances are 1 in 10 to the 11d
 

2369
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,589
to put in chances are 1 in 10 to the 11d
billion. Um that's what they do every

2370
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:53,599
billion. Um that's what they do every
 

2371
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,030
billion. Um that's what they do every
time. It's always baseless. So, with

2372
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:55,040
time. It's always baseless. So, with
 

2373
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,030
time. It's always baseless. So, with
fine-tuning, it's not a good argument.

2374
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:57,040
fine-tuning, it's not a good argument.
 

2375
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,790
fine-tuning, it's not a good argument.
I'll admit it's it's a better argument

2376
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:58,800
I'll admit it's it's a better argument
 

2377
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,870
I'll admit it's it's a better argument
than some of the [\h__\h] with abiogenesis

2378
00:45:00,870 --> 00:45:00,880
than some of the [\h__\h] with abiogenesis
 

2379
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,829
than some of the [\h__\h] with abiogenesis
and certainly evolution denial. Um, but

2380
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:03,839
and certainly evolution denial. Um, but
 

2381
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:05,990
and certainly evolution denial. Um, but
it's not a good argument. These half a

2382
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:06,000
it's not a good argument. These half a
 

2383
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,309
it's not a good argument. These half a
dozen or so parameters, um, there is no

2384
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:08,319
dozen or so parameters, um, there is no
 

2385
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:10,870
dozen or so parameters, um, there is no
evidence that they could have widely

2386
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:10,880
evidence that they could have widely
 

2387
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,109
evidence that they could have widely
disperate and variable values to begin

2388
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:13,119
disperate and variable values to begin
 

2389
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,230
disperate and variable values to begin
with. um they are always exaggerating or

2390
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:16,240
with. um they are always exaggerating or
 

2391
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,870
with. um they are always exaggerating or
or flatout fabricating the narrowness to

2392
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:18,880
or flatout fabricating the narrowness to
 

2393
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,349
or flatout fabricating the narrowness to
which they could vary and still produce

2394
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:21,359
which they could vary and still produce
 

2395
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:24,150
which they could vary and still produce
a universe that is resembles uh one that

2396
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:24,160
a universe that is resembles uh one that
 

2397
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,470
a universe that is resembles uh one that
we have. Uh there's also no abil there's

2398
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:26,480
we have. Uh there's also no abil there's
 

2399
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,470
we have. Uh there's also no abil there's
no attempt to discuss possibilities of

2400
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:28,480
no attempt to discuss possibilities of
 

2401
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,390
no attempt to discuss possibilities of
these values existing in some kind of a

2402
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:30,400
these values existing in some kind of a
 

2403
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,470
these values existing in some kind of a
superp position at the earliest instance

2404
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:32,480
superp position at the earliest instance
 

2405
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,230
superp position at the earliest instance
of the universe and then collapsing into

2406
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:34,240
of the universe and then collapsing into
 

2407
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,270
of the universe and then collapsing into
into concrete states. Um, I'm not the

2408
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:37,280
into concrete states. Um, I'm not the
 

2409
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,510
into concrete states. Um, I'm not the
I'm a lot better with uh debunking a

2410
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:39,520
I'm a lot better with uh debunking a
 

2411
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,309
I'm a lot better with uh debunking a
biogenesis stuff and and uh you know,

2412
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:42,319
biogenesis stuff and and uh you know,
 

2413
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:45,190
biogenesis stuff and and uh you know,
evolution denial fine-tuning arguments.

2414
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:45,200
evolution denial fine-tuning arguments.
 

2415
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,589
evolution denial fine-tuning arguments.
I talk about it a little bit in my uh

2416
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:47,599
I talk about it a little bit in my uh
 

2417
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:48,870
I talk about it a little bit in my uh
definitive guide to debunking

2418
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:48,880
definitive guide to debunking
 

2419
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,589
definitive guide to debunking
creationism, but uh if you're curious, I

2420
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:51,599
creationism, but uh if you're curious, I
 

2421
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,750
creationism, but uh if you're curious, I
mean, I just gave you a few things that

2422
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:53,760
mean, I just gave you a few things that
 

2423
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,470
mean, I just gave you a few things that
uh that make his that he's he's

2424
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:56,480
uh that make his that he's he's
 

2425
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,550
uh that make his that he's he's
dramatically overstating the validity of

2426
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:58,560
dramatically overstating the validity of
 

2427
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,910
dramatically overstating the validity of
the fine-tuning argument, but just

2428
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:59,920
the fine-tuning argument, but just
 

2429
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,430
the fine-tuning argument, but just
Google debunking fine-tune argument.

2430
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:01,440
Google debunking fine-tune argument.
 

2431
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,190
Google debunking fine-tune argument.
There's people who have done long long

2432
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:03,200
There's people who have done long long
 

2433
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,430
There's people who have done long long
long papers debunking the crap out of

2434
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:05,440
long papers debunking the crap out of
 

2435
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,670
long papers debunking the crap out of
this uh this idea. It's not a it's not a

2436
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:07,680
this uh this idea. It's not a it's not a
 

2437
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,870
this uh this idea. It's not a it's not a
valid argument. So,

2438
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:08,880
valid argument. So,
 

2439
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,390
valid argument. So,
>> little smidge this way, little smidge

2440
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:10,400
>> little smidge this way, little smidge
 

2441
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,390
>> little smidge this way, little smidge
that way, you'll get either a heat death

2442
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:12,400
that way, you'll get either a heat death
 

2443
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,390
that way, you'll get either a heat death
or a recolapse of the universe. The

2444
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:14,400
or a recolapse of the universe. The
 

2445
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,230
or a recolapse of the universe. The
force of gravity, the strength of the

2446
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:16,240
force of gravity, the strength of the
 

2447
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,990
force of gravity, the strength of the
force depicted by something called the

2448
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:18,000
force depicted by something called the
 

2449
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,630
force depicted by something called the
gravitational force constant, the basic

2450
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:20,640
gravitational force constant, the basic
 

2451
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,950
gravitational force constant, the basic
the mass of the quarks, the elementary

2452
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:22,960
the mass of the quarks, the elementary
 

2453
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,550
the mass of the quarks, the elementary
particles, all of these different

2454
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:24,560
particles, all of these different
 

2455
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,390
particles, all of these different
parameters, the speed of light, they all

2456
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:26,400
parameters, the speed of light, they all
 

2457
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,309
parameters, the speed of light, they all
fall within these sweet spots. So we

2458
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:28,319
fall within these sweet spots. So we
 

2459
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:29,829
fall within these sweet spots. So we
physicists are now talking about are

2460
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:29,839
physicists are now talking about are
 

2461
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:31,670
physicists are now talking about are
living in a Goldilocks universe. Not too

2462
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:31,680
living in a Goldilocks universe. Not too
 

2463
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,589
living in a Goldilocks universe. Not too
hot, not too cold, not too strong, not

2464
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:33,599
hot, not too cold, not too strong, not
 

2465
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,109
hot, not too cold, not too strong, not
too weak, everything just right.

2466
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:35,119
too weak, everything just right.
 

2467
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,990
too weak, everything just right.
>> So if I picture myself in a control room

2468
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:38,000
>> So if I picture myself in a control room
 

2469
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,349
>> So if I picture myself in a control room
with knobs, any one of which if some

2470
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:41,359
with knobs, any one of which if some
 

2471
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,349
with knobs, any one of which if some
child walked in and bumped into any one

2472
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:43,359
child walked in and bumped into any one
 

2473
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:45,910
child walked in and bumped into any one
of these knobs, the universe as we know

2474
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:45,920
of these knobs, the universe as we know
 

2475
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,349
of these knobs, the universe as we know
it, and certainly human life as we know

2476
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:47,359
it, and certainly human life as we know
 

2477
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,190
it, and certainly human life as we know
it on this planet, could no longer

2478
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:49,200
it on this planet, could no longer
 

2479
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,069
it on this planet, could no longer
continue. How many knobs are there?

2480
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:52,079
continue. How many knobs are there?
 

2481
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,150
continue. How many knobs are there?
>> Several dozen. Uh depending on which

2482
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:54,160
>> Several dozen. Uh depending on which
 

2483
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,230
>> Several dozen. Uh depending on which
physicist you ask. the the illustration

2484
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:56,240
physicist you ask. the the illustration
 

2485
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,750
physicist you ask. the the illustration
that you site is actually an

2486
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:57,760
that you site is actually an
 

2487
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,430
that you site is actually an
illustration of one of John's teachers

2488
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:59,440
illustration of one of John's teachers
 

2489
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,230
illustration of one of John's teachers
at at uh uh the University of Cambridge,

2490
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:02,240
at at uh uh the University of Cambridge,
 

2491
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,750
at at uh uh the University of Cambridge,
Sir John Pulkinghorn, the famous

2492
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:03,760
Sir John Pulkinghorn, the famous
 

2493
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,430
Sir John Pulkinghorn, the famous
physicist. He asked his student he used

2494
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:05,440
physicist. He asked his student he used
 

2495
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,430
physicist. He asked his student he used
to ask his students to imagine to depict

2496
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:07,440
to ask his students to imagine to depict
 

2497
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,069
to ask his students to imagine to depict
the finetuning. He asked them to imagine

2498
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:10,079
the finetuning. He asked them to imagine
 

2499
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,230
the finetuning. He asked them to imagine
a universe creating machine with a knob

2500
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:12,240
a universe creating machine with a knob
 

2501
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,670
a universe creating machine with a knob
for the strength of gravity, one for

2502
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:13,680
for the strength of gravity, one for
 

2503
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,950
for the strength of gravity, one for
electromagnetism, one for the

2504
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:14,960
electromagnetism, one for the
 

2505
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,510
electromagnetism, one for the
cosmological constant, a slider for the

2506
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:17,520
cosmological constant, a slider for the
 

2507
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,670
cosmological constant, a slider for the
speed of light and so on. And the point

2508
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:19,680
speed of light and so on. And the point
 

2509
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,829
speed of light and so on. And the point
was that each one of those those

2510
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:21,839
was that each one of those those
 

2511
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,790
was that each one of those those
parameters are precisely set and a

2512
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:24,800
parameters are precisely set and a
 

2513
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,950
parameters are precisely set and a
little little bit off this way or that

2514
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:26,960
little little bit off this way or that
 

2515
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,270
little little bit off this way or that
way and the consequences to the

2516
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:29,280
way and the consequences to the
 

2517
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,030
way and the consequences to the
possibility of life in the universe

2518
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:31,040
possibility of life in the universe
 

2519
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,790
possibility of life in the universe
would be catastrophic like

2520
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:32,800
would be catastrophic like
 

2521
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,470
would be catastrophic like
>> right and that's not a valid claim right

2522
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:34,480
>> right and that's not a valid claim right
 

2523
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,510
>> right and that's not a valid claim right
the the variability of those parameters

2524
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:37,520
the the variability of those parameters
 

2525
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,630
the the variability of those parameters
is dramat uh is dramatically understated

2526
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:40,640
is dramat uh is dramatically understated
 

2527
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,829
is dramat uh is dramatically understated
uh exaggerated in in one direction by

2528
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:43,839
uh exaggerated in in one direction by
 

2529
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:46,150
uh exaggerated in in one direction by
them there's a lot more variability than

2530
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:46,160
them there's a lot more variability than
 

2531
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,349
them there's a lot more variability than
uh than they imply and also So there is

2532
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:49,359
uh than they imply and also So there is
 

2533
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:52,470
uh than they imply and also So there is
nothing to indicate that they must have

2534
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:52,480
nothing to indicate that they must have
 

2535
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,829
nothing to indicate that they must have
uh completely variable uh uh potential

2536
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:55,839
uh completely variable uh uh potential
 

2537
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,790
uh completely variable uh uh potential
values in the first place. Um so and

2538
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:58,800
values in the first place. Um so and
 

2539
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,390
values in the first place. Um so and
then what I said about the superp

2540
00:48:00,390 --> 00:48:00,400
then what I said about the superp
 

2541
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,030
then what I said about the superp
position and all that. So it but they

2542
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:03,040
position and all that. So it but they
 

2543
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,950
position and all that. So it but they
need the they need these uh analogies

2544
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:04,960
need the they need these uh analogies
 

2545
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,349
need the they need these uh analogies
right they need you to picture uh they

2546
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:07,359
right they need you to picture uh they
 

2547
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:09,510
right they need you to picture uh they
always have some kind of nice little

2548
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:09,520
always have some kind of nice little
 

2549
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,670
always have some kind of nice little
visual for for the lay person to go oh

2550
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:11,680
visual for for the lay person to go oh
 

2551
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,670
visual for for the lay person to go oh
wow. So, so first of all, it's a control

2552
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:13,680
wow. So, so first of all, it's a control
 

2553
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,349
wow. So, so first of all, it's a control
room, which is just perfect for

2554
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:15,359
room, which is just perfect for
 

2555
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:17,670
room, which is just perfect for
imagining a god behind the uh at the

2556
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:17,680
imagining a god behind the uh at the
 

2557
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,589
imagining a god behind the uh at the
console, right? Okay, let me make

2558
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:19,599
console, right? Okay, let me make
 

2559
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:21,430
console, right? Okay, let me make
gravity like this. Let me do this. Oh,

2560
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:21,440
gravity like this. Let me do this. Oh,
 

2561
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,950
gravity like this. Let me do this. Oh,
look at that. I got the right values and

2562
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:22,960
look at that. I got the right values and
 

2563
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,950
look at that. I got the right values and
now I have a universe with people that's

2564
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:24,960
now I have a universe with people that's
 

2565
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,510
now I have a universe with people that's
got people in it. So, it's just it's

2566
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:27,520
got people in it. So, it's just it's
 

2567
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,150
got people in it. So, it's just it's
adorable.

2568
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:28,160
adorable.
 

2569
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,750
adorable.
>> Life in the universe, but also the

2570
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:29,760
>> Life in the universe, but also the
 

2571
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,750
>> Life in the universe, but also the
ability to do chemistry. Do you do you

2572
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:31,760
ability to do chemistry. Do you do you
 

2573
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,030
ability to do chemistry. Do you do you
run into these in your life?

2574
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:33,040
run into these in your life?
 

2575
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,430
run into these in your life?
>> Well, actually, Steve Steve was under

2576
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:35,440
>> Well, actually, Steve Steve was under
 

2577
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,829
>> Well, actually, Steve Steve was under
underestimating the number of fine

2578
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:37,839
underestimating the number of fine
 

2579
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:40,150
underestimating the number of fine
tuning parameters there are. If you just

2580
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:40,160
tuning parameters there are. If you just
 

2581
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,109
tuning parameters there are. If you just
change the dipole moment of water, one

2582
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:43,119
change the dipole moment of water, one
 

2583
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:44,309
change the dipole moment of water, one
tiny, say that word again,

2584
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:44,319
tiny, say that word again,
 

2585
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,109
tiny, say that word again,
>> the dipole moment of water. So ju just

2586
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:47,119
>> the dipole moment of water. So ju just
 

2587
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,990
>> the dipole moment of water. So ju just
just uh uh how much electron density

2588
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:50,000
just uh uh how much electron density
 

2589
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,750
just uh uh how much electron density
there is on one side of the water

2590
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:51,760
there is on one side of the water
 

2591
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,670
there is on one side of the water
molecule versus the other just slightly

2592
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:53,680
molecule versus the other just slightly
 

2593
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,150
molecule versus the other just slightly
a fraction of a percent. Very small.

2594
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:56,160
a fraction of a percent. Very small.
 

2595
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,790
a fraction of a percent. Very small.
Life becomes impossible. Everything in

2596
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:58,800
Life becomes impossible. Everything in
 

2597
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,390
Life becomes impossible. Everything in
chemistry is balanced per what the [\h__\h]

2598
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:02,400
chemistry is balanced per what the [\h__\h]
 

2599
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,270
chemistry is balanced per what the [\h__\h]
Life becomes impossible if you alter the

2600
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:05,280
Life becomes impossible if you alter the
 

2601
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,630
Life becomes impossible if you alter the
dipole moment of water by 2%. Uh, that's

2602
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:08,640
dipole moment of water by 2%. Uh, that's
 

2603
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,790
dipole moment of water by 2%. Uh, that's
a whole lot of [\h__\h] It would change

2604
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:10,800
a whole lot of [\h__\h] It would change
 

2605
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,870
a whole lot of [\h__\h] It would change
the solubilities of things and it would

2606
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:12,880
the solubilities of things and it would
 

2607
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,510
the solubilities of things and it would
change certain parameters of physical

2608
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:15,520
change certain parameters of physical
 

2609
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,430
change certain parameters of physical
transformations. It wouldn't make life

2610
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:17,440
transformations. It wouldn't make life
 

2611
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,109
transformations. It wouldn't make life
first of all, you could have life

2612
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:19,119
first of all, you could have life
 

2613
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,750
first of all, you could have life
without water. You life could evolve in

2614
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:21,760
without water. You life could evolve in
 

2615
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,750
without water. You life could evolve in
[\h__\h] ammonia or something. It could

2616
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:23,760
[\h__\h] ammonia or something. It could
 

2617
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,150
[\h__\h] ammonia or something. It could
evolve in a different liquid medium or

2618
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:26,160
evolve in a different liquid medium or
 

2619
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,470
evolve in a different liquid medium or
without a liquid medium at all. I mean,

2620
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:28,480
without a liquid medium at all. I mean,
 

2621
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,470
without a liquid medium at all. I mean,
it's it's it's a little bit of a hard

2622
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:30,480
it's it's it's a little bit of a hard
 

2623
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,309
it's it's it's a little bit of a hard
pill to swallow. I mean, I would be

2624
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:32,319
pill to swallow. I mean, I would be
 

2625
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,230
pill to swallow. I mean, I would be
shocked, but there's nothing firmly I

2626
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:34,240
shocked, but there's nothing firmly I
 

2627
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,069
shocked, but there's nothing firmly I
mean, chemistry happens in the vacuum of

2628
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:36,079
mean, chemistry happens in the vacuum of
 

2629
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,390
mean, chemistry happens in the vacuum of
space. Um, but good god, like what a

2630
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:38,400
space. Um, but good god, like what a
 

2631
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,390
space. Um, but good god, like what a
asinine. What a [\h__\h] dumb thing for

2632
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:40,400
asinine. What a [\h__\h] dumb thing for
 

2633
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,309
asinine. What a [\h__\h] dumb thing for
James to say. You change the dipole

2634
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:42,319
James to say. You change the dipole
 

2635
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:44,230
James to say. You change the dipole
moment by a couple percent. It would

2636
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:44,240
moment by a couple percent. It would
 

2637
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,710
moment by a couple percent. It would
change how it would change certain

2638
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:46,720
change how it would change certain
 

2639
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,430
change how it would change certain
aspects of reactions and solubility and

2640
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:49,440
aspects of reactions and solubility and
 

2641
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,190
aspects of reactions and solubility and
all this other stuff. It wouldn't make

2642
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:51,200
all this other stuff. It wouldn't make
 

2643
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,030
all this other stuff. It wouldn't make
life impossible. It would just look

2644
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:53,040
life impossible. It would just look
 

2645
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,270
life impossible. It would just look
different. We'd have different molecules

2646
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:55,280
different. We'd have different molecules
 

2647
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,349
different. We'd have different molecules
acting as components of life, possibly.

2648
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:57,359
acting as components of life, possibly.
 

2649
00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:00,069
acting as components of life, possibly.
Maybe not even that. Um, god damn it.

2650
00:50:00,069 --> 00:50:00,079
Maybe not even that. Um, god damn it.
 

2651
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,630
Maybe not even that. Um, god damn it.
How that was shockingly stupid.

2652
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:02,640
How that was shockingly stupid.
 

2653
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,109
How that was shockingly stupid.
>> Perfectly for us to have life.

2654
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:05,119
>> Perfectly for us to have life.
 

2655
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,230
>> Perfectly for us to have life.
>> Fantastic. All right. You're a

2656
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:06,240
>> Fantastic. All right. You're a
 

2657
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,309
>> Fantastic. All right. You're a
mathematician. How improbable is life?

2658
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:08,319
mathematician. How improbable is life?
 

2659
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:10,069
mathematician. How improbable is life?
Is there a way of quantit quantifying

2660
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:10,079
Is there a way of quantit quantifying
 

2661
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:10,390
Is there a way of quantit quantifying
it?

2662
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:10,400
it?
 

2663
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,910
it?
>> It's extremely improbable. I I I think a

2664
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:13,920
>> It's extremely improbable. I I I think a
 

2665
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,630
>> It's extremely improbable. I I I think a
very good example of a reaction to an

2666
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:16,640
very good example of a reaction to an
 

2667
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,910
very good example of a reaction to an
early former finetuning was Sir Fred Hy

2668
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:19,920
early former finetuning was Sir Fred Hy
 

2669
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,549
early former finetuning was Sir Fred Hy
who was an atheist and who was my

2670
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:22,559
who was an atheist and who was my
 

2671
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,470
who was an atheist and who was my
examiner at Cambridge and he predicted a

2672
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:26,480
examiner at Cambridge and he predicted a
 

2673
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,870
examiner at Cambridge and he predicted a
resonance in carbon which was later

2674
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:28,880
resonance in carbon which was later
 

2675
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,589
resonance in carbon which was later
discovered and when it was discovered

2676
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:31,599
discovered and when it was discovered
 

2677
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,470
discovered and when it was discovered
his reaction was nothing shook my

2678
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:34,480
his reaction was nothing shook my
 

2679
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,309
his reaction was nothing shook my
atheism like that discovery now Sir

2680
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:38,319
atheism like that discovery now Sir
 

2681
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:40,390
atheism like that discovery now Sir
Roger Penrose is one of the most

2682
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:40,400
Roger Penrose is one of the most
 

2683
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,069
Roger Penrose is one of the most
>> resonance in car I don't even know what

2684
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:42,079
>> resonance in car I don't even know what
 

2685
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,829
>> resonance in car I don't even know what
the [\h__\h] that mean. What is he saying? I

2686
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:43,839
the [\h__\h] that mean. What is he saying? I
 

2687
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:46,549
the [\h__\h] that mean. What is he saying? I
don't even know. And learning things

2688
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:46,559
don't even know. And learning things
 

2689
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:49,829
don't even know. And learning things
about molecules and and and elements

2690
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:49,839
about molecules and and and elements
 

2691
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:53,109
about molecules and and and elements
affects your atheism. How? Uh, wow. What

2692
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:53,119
affects your atheism. How? Uh, wow. What
 

2693
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,309
affects your atheism. How? Uh, wow. What
a what a sad anecdote that was. That was

2694
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:56,319
a what a sad anecdote that was. That was
 

2695
00:50:56,319 --> 00:50:58,790
a what a sad anecdote that was. That was
that was a whole big old nothingberger.

2696
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:58,800
that was a whole big old nothingberger.
 

2697
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,910
that was a whole big old nothingberger.
Uh, amazing.

2698
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:59,920
Uh, amazing.
 

2699
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,910
Uh, amazing.
>> Brilliant mathematicians in the world

2700
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:01,920
>> Brilliant mathematicians in the world
 

2701
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,309
>> Brilliant mathematicians in the world
worked with Stephen Hawking and so on.

2702
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:04,319
worked with Stephen Hawking and so on.
 

2703
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:08,069
worked with Stephen Hawking and so on.
And he has an analogy in his book where

2704
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:08,079
And he has an analogy in his book where
 

2705
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,309
And he has an analogy in his book where
he says if you want the universe with

2706
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:10,319
he says if you want the universe with
 

2707
00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:12,549
he says if you want the universe with
the second law of thermodynamics where

2708
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:12,559
the second law of thermodynamics where
 

2709
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,950
the second law of thermodynamics where
even your Cadillac will rust everything

2710
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:14,960
even your Cadillac will rust everything
 

2711
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,150
even your Cadillac will rust everything
is running down. The creator's aim and

2712
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:18,160
is running down. The creator's aim and
 

2713
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,150
is running down. The creator's aim and
those are his words. He's not a believer

2714
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:20,160
those are his words. He's not a believer
 

2715
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,870
those are his words. He's not a believer
in God. The creator's aim must be

2716
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:22,880
in God. The creator's aim must be
 

2717
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,109
in God. The creator's aim must be
accurate to one part in 10 to the power

2718
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:27,119
accurate to one part in 10 to the power
 

2719
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:31,750
accurate to one part in 10 to the power
10 to the power 123 in order to get our

2720
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:31,760
10 to the power 123 in order to get our
 

2721
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,190
10 to the power 123 in order to get our
universe. and

2722
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:33,200
universe. and
 

2723
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,190
universe. and
>> big crazy numbers. Uh, so Lennox doesn't

2724
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:37,200
>> big crazy numbers. Uh, so Lennox doesn't
 

2725
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,230
>> big crazy numbers. Uh, so Lennox doesn't
know what the second law of

2726
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:38,240
know what the second law of
 

2727
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:41,430
know what the second law of
thermodynamics says. That's part one.

2728
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:41,440
thermodynamics says. That's part one.
 

2729
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,910
thermodynamics says. That's part one.
And then part two was to just pull a

2730
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:43,920
And then part two was to just pull a
 

2731
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,950
And then part two was to just pull a
number out of his ass. God second law of

2732
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:46,960
number out of his ass. God second law of
 

2733
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,230
number out of his ass. God second law of
thermodynamics uh which to the to the uh

2734
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:50,240
thermodynamics uh which to the to the uh
 

2735
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,870
thermodynamics uh which to the to the uh
to the to to to the pseudocience

2736
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:52,880
to the to to to the pseudocience
 

2737
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,069
to the to to to the pseudocience
pedalling uh charlatan of this variety

2738
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:56,079
pedalling uh charlatan of this variety
 

2739
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,309
pedalling uh charlatan of this variety
means everything breaks down. That's

2740
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:58,319
means everything breaks down. That's
 

2741
00:51:58,319 --> 00:51:59,829
means everything breaks down. That's
what happens. Thermodynamics says

2742
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:59,839
what happens. Thermodynamics says
 

2743
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:00,950
what happens. Thermodynamics says
everything breaks down. That's what

2744
00:52:00,950 --> 00:52:00,960
everything breaks down. That's what
 

2745
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,030
everything breaks down. That's what
entropy is. Um, and then zero ability to

2746
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:05,040
entropy is. Um, and then zero ability to
 

2747
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,549
entropy is. Um, and then zero ability to
or zero tether whatsoever to 10 to the

2748
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:08,559
or zero tether whatsoever to 10 to the
 

2749
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:11,990
or zero tether whatsoever to 10 to the
10 to the 123 uh whatever the [\h__\h] like

2750
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:12,000
10 to the 123 uh whatever the [\h__\h] like
 

2751
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,390
10 to the 123 uh whatever the [\h__\h] like
they all they do is just say a big

2752
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:14,400
they all they do is just say a big
 

2753
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,710
they all they do is just say a big
number. It's ju they just pull a big

2754
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:16,720
number. It's ju they just pull a big
 

2755
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:17,910
number. It's ju they just pull a big
number out of their ass. It's

2756
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:17,920
number out of their ass. It's
 

2757
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,670
number out of their ass. It's
incredible.

2758
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:19,680
incredible.
 

2759
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,430
incredible.
Many people have pointed out that if you

2760
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:21,440
Many people have pointed out that if you
 

2761
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,870
Many people have pointed out that if you
put a one here and a zero on every

2762
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:24,880
put a one here and a zero on every
 

2763
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,710
put a one here and a zero on every
elementary particle in the universe, you

2764
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:26,720
elementary particle in the universe, you
 

2765
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,109
elementary particle in the universe, you
still can't write that number out. In

2766
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:29,119
still can't write that number out. In
 

2767
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,990
still can't write that number out. In
other words, the improbability is beyond

2768
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:32,000
other words, the improbability is beyond
 

2769
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,910
other words, the improbability is beyond
our imagining.

2770
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:33,920
our imagining.
 

2771
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,910
our imagining.
>> Can we get a calculation? Can you tell

2772
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:35,920
>> Can we get a calculation? Can you tell
 

2773
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,069
>> Can we get a calculation? Can you tell
us how the [\h__\h] you got that number? No,

2774
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:38,079
us how the [\h__\h] you got that number? No,
 

2775
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,950
us how the [\h__\h] you got that number? No,
it's just look at big scary number. And

2776
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:40,960
it's just look at big scary number. And
 

2777
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,030
it's just look at big scary number. And
then everyone watching goes, "Wow,

2778
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:43,040
then everyone watching goes, "Wow,
 

2779
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,430
then everyone watching goes, "Wow,
indeed big scary number." That's why

2780
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:45,440
indeed big scary number." That's why
 

2781
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,510
indeed big scary number." That's why
life is so improbable because this

2782
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:47,520
life is so improbable because this
 

2783
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,510
life is so improbable because this
[\h__\h] guy said so and didn't

2784
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:49,520
[\h__\h] guy said so and didn't
 

2785
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,870
[\h__\h] guy said so and didn't
substantiate it at all. It's incredible.

2786
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:52,880
substantiate it at all. It's incredible.
 

2787
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,470
substantiate it at all. It's incredible.
So the idea of a creator is extremely

2788
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:56,480
So the idea of a creator is extremely
 

2789
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,390
So the idea of a creator is extremely
close when you see these kind of

2790
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:58,400
close when you see these kind of
 

2791
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,030
close when you see these kind of
figures. And the important thing is the

2792
00:53:01,030 --> 00:53:01,040
figures. And the important thing is the
 

2793
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,870
figures. And the important thing is the
>> what what's the what's the probability

2794
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:02,880
>> what what's the what's the probability
 

2795
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,549
>> what what's the what's the probability
of a creator just existing without cause

2796
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:06,559
of a creator just existing without cause
 

2797
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,630
of a creator just existing without cause
right so you don't like a universe

2798
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:08,640
right so you don't like a universe
 

2799
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,630
right so you don't like a universe
existing what what are the odd do the

2800
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:10,640
existing what what are the odd do the
 

2801
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,190
existing what what are the odd do the
math there I I I did the math I'm not

2802
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:13,200
math there I I I did the math I'm not
 

2803
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,790
math there I I I did the math I'm not
going to share the math with you uh

2804
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:14,800
going to share the math with you uh
 

2805
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,710
going to share the math with you uh
because I don't feel like it but trust

2806
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:16,720
because I don't feel like it but trust
 

2807
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,630
because I don't feel like it but trust
me the math is valid that the odds of a

2808
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:18,640
me the math is valid that the odds of a
 

2809
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,230
me the math is valid that the odds of a
of a of an infinitely an infinitely

2810
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:22,240
of a of an infinitely an infinitely
 

2811
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,190
of a of an infinitely an infinitely
powerful deity just existing just

2812
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:25,200
powerful deity just existing just
 

2813
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,790
powerful deity just existing just
because the odds of that is 1 in 10 to

2814
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:28,800
because the odds of that is 1 in 10 to
 

2815
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,549
because the odds of that is 1 in 10 to
the 100 to the 20,000 to the Google plex

2816
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:32,559
the 100 to the 20,000 to the Google plex
 

2817
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:36,790
the 100 to the 20,000 to the Google plex
to the 50 gazillion to the 69 power way

2818
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:36,800
to the 50 gazillion to the 69 power way
 

2819
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,589
to the 50 gazillion to the 69 power way
bigger than your number. So sorry bro uh

2820
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:39,599
bigger than your number. So sorry bro uh
 

2821
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,030
bigger than your number. So sorry bro uh
the universe ex atheism wins. I said a

2822
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:43,040
the universe ex atheism wins. I said a
 

2823
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,950
the universe ex atheism wins. I said a
bigger number. I said a bigger scarier

2824
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:44,960
bigger number. I said a bigger scarier
 

2825
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,230
bigger number. I said a bigger scarier
number than you. So you lose. I'm sorry.

2826
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:48,240
number than you. So you lose. I'm sorry.
 

2827
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:50,790
number than you. So you lose. I'm sorry.
>> Fine-tuning is something that has been

2828
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:50,800
>> Fine-tuning is something that has been
 

2829
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,750
>> Fine-tuning is something that has been
scientifically established. They've got

2830
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:53,760
scientifically established. They've got
 

2831
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,589
scientifically established. They've got
to explain it and they don't have an

2832
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:57,599
to explain it and they don't have an
 

2833
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,109
to explain it and they don't have an
explanation

2834
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:59,119
explanation
 

2835
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,990
explanation
that actually works. Apart from the God

2836
00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:02,000
that actually works. Apart from the God
 

2837
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,589
that actually works. Apart from the God
hypothesis filmed,

2838
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:03,599
hypothesis filmed,
 

2839
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:05,109
hypothesis filmed,
>> apart from all the [\h__\h] that you could

2840
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:05,119
>> apart from all the [\h__\h] that you could
 

2841
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,190
>> apart from all the [\h__\h] that you could
just Google right now and go reputation

2842
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:07,200
just Google right now and go reputation
 

2843
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,270
just Google right now and go reputation
of fine-tuning argument and read for

2844
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:09,280
of fine-tuning argument and read for
 

2845
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,910
of fine-tuning argument and read for
literally 5 minutes and uh and actually

2846
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:11,920
literally 5 minutes and uh and actually
 

2847
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,390
literally 5 minutes and uh and actually
learn something instead of pivoting to

2848
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:14,400
learn something instead of pivoting to
 

2849
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,790
learn something instead of pivoting to
Meyer's dog [\h__\h] book that he's been

2850
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:16,800
Meyer's dog [\h__\h] book that he's been
 

2851
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,349
Meyer's dog [\h__\h] book that he's been
coasting on for several years now. does

2852
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:19,359
coasting on for several years now. does
 

2853
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:21,190
coasting on for several years now. does
a really nice job of telling the story

2854
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:21,200
a really nice job of telling the story
 

2855
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,309
a really nice job of telling the story
of Hoy's discovery of this very these

2856
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:24,319
of Hoy's discovery of this very these
 

2857
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:26,950
of Hoy's discovery of this very these
very particular uh parameters associated

2858
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:26,960
very particular uh parameters associated
 

2859
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,270
very particular uh parameters associated
with building carbon that led him to

2860
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:29,280
with building carbon that led him to
 

2861
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,870
with building carbon that led him to
have this change of view and he's later

2862
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:30,880
have this change of view and he's later
 

2863
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,790
have this change of view and he's later
quoted as saying a common sense

2864
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:32,800
quoted as saying a common sense
 

2865
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,950
quoted as saying a common sense
interpretation of the evidence suggests

2866
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:34,960
interpretation of the evidence suggests
 

2867
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,510
interpretation of the evidence suggests
that a super intellect has monkeyed with

2868
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:37,520
that a super intellect has monkeyed with
 

2869
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,750
that a super intellect has monkeyed with
physics

2870
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:39,760
physics
 

2871
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,950
physics
>> famous in our in our fields. Yeah.

2872
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:42,960
>> famous in our in our fields. Yeah.
 

2873
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,030
>> famous in our in our fields. Yeah.
>> All right. Um, the information enigma. I

2874
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:47,040
>> All right. Um, the information enigma. I
 

2875
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,990
>> All right. Um, the information enigma. I
think I stole that term from your book.

2876
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:50,000
think I stole that term from your book.
 

2877
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,390
think I stole that term from your book.
Again, the uh Jim

2878
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:52,400
Again, the uh Jim
 

2879
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,829
Again, the uh Jim
>> kind of shocking that they would play

2880
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:53,839
>> kind of shocking that they would play
 

2881
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:56,870
>> kind of shocking that they would play
that very well articulated uh argument

2882
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:56,880
that very well articulated uh argument
 

2883
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,430
that very well articulated uh argument
here. Um, in the light of modern

2884
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:59,440
here. Um, in the light of modern
 

2885
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,750
here. Um, in the light of modern
science, the idea that the universe was

2886
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:01,760
science, the idea that the universe was
 

2887
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,870
science, the idea that the universe was
created for humans is [\h__\h] stupid.

2888
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:04,880
created for humans is [\h__\h] stupid.
 

2889
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,390
created for humans is [\h__\h] stupid.
Uh, quite quite frankly, um, and and

2890
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:08,400
Uh, quite quite frankly, um, and and
 

2891
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,630
Uh, quite quite frankly, um, and and
just indefensible. It's not compatible

2892
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:10,640
just indefensible. It's not compatible
 

2893
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,870
just indefensible. It's not compatible
with modern knowledge, right? The idea

2894
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:12,880
with modern knowledge, right? The idea
 

2895
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,950
with modern knowledge, right? The idea
that a god would create this in

2896
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:14,960
that a god would create this in
 

2897
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,270
that a god would create this in
unbelievably vast universe just to have

2898
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:17,280
unbelievably vast universe just to have
 

2899
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,030
unbelievably vast universe just to have
a planet and put people on that and

2900
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:19,040
a planet and put people on that and
 

2901
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,870
a planet and put people on that and
okay, there you go. What's all What's

2902
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:20,880
okay, there you go. What's all What's
 

2903
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,069
okay, there you go. What's all What's
all this other crap? Don't worry about

2904
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:22,079
all this other crap? Don't worry about
 

2905
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,069
all this other crap? Don't worry about
it. No, it's fine. It's It's not for

2906
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:24,079
it. No, it's fine. It's It's not for
 

2907
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,470
it. No, it's fine. It's It's not for
you. It's just I made you over here on

2908
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:26,480
you. It's just I made you over here on
 

2909
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,190
you. It's just I made you over here on
this one little planet. Uh enjoy that.

2910
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:29,200
this one little planet. Uh enjoy that.
 

2911
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,990
this one little planet. Uh enjoy that.
Like why why would you believe why and

2912
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:32,000
Like why why would you believe why and
 

2913
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,510
Like why why would you believe why and
where's all the life, right? I mean, if

2914
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:33,520
where's all the life, right? I mean, if
 

2915
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,349
where's all the life, right? I mean, if
you want to talk about uh finely tuned

2916
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:35,359
you want to talk about uh finely tuned
 

2917
00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:37,430
you want to talk about uh finely tuned
for life, where the [\h__\h] is it? Mo most

2918
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:37,440
for life, where the [\h__\h] is it? Mo most
 

2919
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,349
for life, where the [\h__\h] is it? Mo most
of the universe is vacuum of space. Uh

2920
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:41,359
of the universe is vacuum of space. Uh
 

2921
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:44,069
of the universe is vacuum of space. Uh
it there's totally inh inhospitable

2922
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:44,079
it there's totally inh inhospitable
 

2923
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,030
it there's totally inh inhospitable
life. We don't see any life. Uh we can't

2924
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:47,040
life. We don't see any life. Uh we can't
 

2925
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,030
life. We don't see any life. Uh we can't
can't it it hasn't made itself known.

2926
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:49,040
can't it it hasn't made itself known.
 

2927
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,069
can't it it hasn't made itself known.
That's for sure. Um yeah, that's but

2928
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:52,079
That's for sure. Um yeah, that's but
 

2929
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,069
That's for sure. Um yeah, that's but
let's see how they spin that that quote.

2930
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:54,079
let's see how they spin that that quote.
 

2931
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,069
let's see how they spin that that quote.
That's a pretty good one.

2932
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:56,079
That's a pretty good one.
 

2933
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:57,670
That's a pretty good one.
>> I'm going to begin my line of

2934
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:57,680
>> I'm going to begin my line of
 

2935
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,710
>> I'm going to begin my line of
questioning for you with my memory of

2936
00:56:00,710 --> 00:56:00,720
questioning for you with my memory of
 

2937
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,870
questioning for you with my memory of
what I think was a ninth or tth grade

2938
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:02,880
what I think was a ninth or tth grade
 

2939
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,430
what I think was a ninth or tth grade
science textbook which described the

2940
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:05,440
science textbook which described the
 

2941
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,829
science textbook which described the
Yuri Miller experiment.

2942
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:07,839
Yuri Miller experiment.
 

2943
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,750
Yuri Miller experiment.
1952.

2944
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:09,760
1952.
 

2945
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,349
1952.
couple of professors at the University

2946
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:11,359
couple of professors at the University
 

2947
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:13,430
couple of professors at the University
of Chicago.

2948
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:13,440
of Chicago.
 

2949
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,990
of Chicago.
>> God damn it. Uh so you're remembering at

2950
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:16,000
>> God damn it. Uh so you're remembering at
 

2951
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,670
>> God damn it. Uh so you're remembering at
least you have the defense that you're

2952
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:17,680
least you have the defense that you're
 

2953
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,030
least you have the defense that you're
remembering something from when you were

2954
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:19,040
remembering something from when you were
 

2955
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,069
remembering something from when you were
a kid and you're old as [\h__\h] Um but the

2956
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:22,079
a kid and you're old as [\h__\h] Um but the
 

2957
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,670
a kid and you're old as [\h__\h] Um but the
rest of us right you no longer have this

2958
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:25,680
rest of us right you no longer have this
 

2959
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,150
rest of us right you no longer have this
uh it is indefensible to begin a

2960
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:28,160
uh it is indefensible to begin a
 

2961
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,390
uh it is indefensible to begin a
discussion of aiogenesis by citing the

2962
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:30,400
discussion of aiogenesis by citing the
 

2963
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,950
discussion of aiogenesis by citing the
Miller Yuri experiment. It is it's

2964
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:32,960
Miller Yuri experiment. It is it's
 

2965
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,270
Miller Yuri experiment. It is it's
[\h__\h] ancient science. And these dick

2966
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:35,280
[\h__\h] ancient science. And these dick
 

2967
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,390
[\h__\h] ancient science. And these dick
bags do this every time. They talk about

2968
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:38,400
bags do this every time. They talk about
 

2969
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,870
bags do this every time. They talk about
the Miller Yuri experiment and nothing

2970
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:40,880
the Miller Yuri experiment and nothing
 

2971
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,069
the Miller Yuri experiment and nothing
else. They pretend that they basically

2972
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:44,079
else. They pretend that they basically
 

2973
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:45,990
else. They pretend that they basically
pretend that the field of origin of life

2974
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:46,000
pretend that the field of origin of life
 

2975
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,030
pretend that the field of origin of life
research does not exist. They say

2976
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:49,040
research does not exist. They say
 

2977
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,710
research does not exist. They say
scientists are clueless about the origin

2978
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:50,720
scientists are clueless about the origin
 

2979
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,870
scientists are clueless about the origin
of life and in order to do so they

2980
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:52,880
of life and in order to do so they
 

2981
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,870
of life and in order to do so they
pretend that the entire field does not

2982
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:54,880
pretend that the entire field does not
 

2983
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,069
pretend that the entire field does not
exist. Every goddamn time. Every goddamn

2984
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:58,079
exist. Every goddamn time. Every goddamn
 

2985
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,950
exist. Every goddamn time. Every goddamn
time. develop a closed system of glass

2986
00:57:00,950 --> 00:57:00,960
time. develop a closed system of glass
 

2987
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,710
time. develop a closed system of glass
tubes and they insert water to represent

2988
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:04,720
tubes and they insert water to represent
 

2989
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:07,750
tubes and they insert water to represent
the ancient ocean, methane, ammonia and

2990
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:07,760
the ancient ocean, methane, ammonia and
 

2991
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,470
the ancient ocean, methane, ammonia and
hydrogen to mimic the early atmosphere

2992
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:10,480
hydrogen to mimic the early atmosphere
 

2993
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,470
hydrogen to mimic the early atmosphere
and then they subjected it to electrical

2994
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:12,480
and then they subjected it to electrical
 

2995
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,349
and then they subjected it to electrical
sparks to simulate lightning and they

2996
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:15,359
sparks to simulate lightning and they
 

2997
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:17,750
sparks to simulate lightning and they
produced amino acids. And what I

2998
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:17,760
produced amino acids. And what I
 

2999
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,630
produced amino acids. And what I
remember dimly because it was a while

3000
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:20,640
remember dimly because it was a while
 

3001
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,190
remember dimly because it was a while
ago but what I remember was oh the the

3002
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:23,200
ago but what I remember was oh the the
 

3003
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,510
ago but what I remember was oh the the
strong implication was we figured out

3004
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:25,520
strong implication was we figured out
 

3005
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,430
strong implication was we figured out
how to do the origins of life. They came

3006
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:27,440
how to do the origins of life. They came
 

3007
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,589
how to do the origins of life. They came
up with amino acids. Scientists will be

3008
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:29,599
up with amino acids. Scientists will be
 

3009
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:31,190
up with amino acids. Scientists will be
working on this. Sooner or later,

3010
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:31,200
working on this. Sooner or later,
 

3011
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,589
working on this. Sooner or later,
they'll come up with a living cell.

3012
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:33,599
they'll come up with a living cell.
 

3013
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,589
they'll come up with a living cell.
>> Nobody thought that. That's a straw man

3014
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:35,599
>> Nobody thought that. That's a straw man
 

3015
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:38,390
>> Nobody thought that. That's a straw man
that tries to portray the the the

3016
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:38,400
that tries to portray the the the
 

3017
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,150
that tries to portray the the the
arrogance of the scientific community

3018
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:40,160
arrogance of the scientific community
 

3019
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,829
arrogance of the scientific community
and thinking we were so close to

3020
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:41,839
and thinking we were so close to
 

3021
00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:43,190
and thinking we were so close to
explaining the origin of life. Nobody

3022
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:43,200
explaining the origin of life. Nobody
 

3023
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,309
explaining the origin of life. Nobody
thought that. They were just like, "Look

3024
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:44,319
thought that. They were just like, "Look
 

3025
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:46,069
thought that. They were just like, "Look
at that. We got amino acids. That's

3026
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:46,079
at that. We got amino acids. That's
 

3027
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,069
at that. We got amino acids. That's
cool. That's a cool result. Uh what

3028
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:48,079
cool. That's a cool result. Uh what
 

3029
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:49,990
cool. That's a cool result. Uh what
should we what should we investigate

3030
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:50,000
should we what should we investigate
 

3031
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,230
should we what should we investigate
next?" Uh nobody thought that that was

3032
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:52,240
next?" Uh nobody thought that that was
 

3033
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,829
next?" Uh nobody thought that that was
anywhere near explaining the origin of

3034
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:53,839
anywhere near explaining the origin of
 

3035
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,870
anywhere near explaining the origin of
life. Um, but it's been 70 [\h__\h] years

3036
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:56,880
life. Um, but it's been 70 [\h__\h] years
 

3037
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,270
life. Um, but it's been 70 [\h__\h] years
and we figured out a lot of [\h__\h] Um,

3038
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:59,280
and we figured out a lot of [\h__\h] Um,
 

3039
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,950
and we figured out a lot of [\h__\h] Um,
and so there's the there's systems

3040
00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:00,960
and so there's the there's systems
 

3041
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,710
and so there's the there's systems
chemistry that that they will continue

3042
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:02,720
chemistry that that they will continue
 

3043
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,630
chemistry that that they will continue
to pretend doesn't exist until the end

3044
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:04,640
to pretend doesn't exist until the end
 

3045
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,750
to pretend doesn't exist until the end
of time. Uh, and the and the elucidation

3046
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:07,760
of time. Uh, and the and the elucidation
 

3047
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,430
of time. Uh, and the and the elucidation
of of uh of of self-replicating systems

3048
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:11,440
of of uh of of self-replicating systems
 

3049
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,950
of of uh of of self-replicating systems
of molecules that evolve by natural

3050
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:12,960
of molecules that evolve by natural
 

3051
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,789
of molecules that evolve by natural
selection. How could that possibly

3052
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:14,799
selection. How could that possibly
 

3053
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:17,190
selection. How could that possibly
pertain to origin of life? Nope. Doesn't

3054
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:17,200
pertain to origin of life? Nope. Doesn't
 

3055
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,230
pertain to origin of life? Nope. Doesn't
exist. Not real. Um, okay. So, here

3056
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:20,240
exist. Not real. Um, okay. So, here
 

3057
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,829
exist. Not real. Um, okay. So, here
James is going to do his [\h__\h] now. He's

3058
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:21,839
James is going to do his [\h__\h] now. He's
 

3059
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,190
James is going to do his [\h__\h] now. He's
he's been chomping at the bit. Let's

3060
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:23,200
he's been chomping at the bit. Let's
 

3061
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,670
he's been chomping at the bit. Let's
see. Has that happened?

3062
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:25,680
see. Has that happened?
 

3063
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,470
see. Has that happened?
>> Watch out. You're going to provoke him.

3064
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:28,480
>> Watch out. You're going to provoke him.
 

3065
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,190
>> Watch out. You're going to provoke him.
>> No, that

3066
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:29,200
>> No, that
 

3067
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,510
>> No, that
>> that's code for We all know that James

3068
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:31,520
>> that's code for We all know that James
 

3069
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,309
>> that's code for We all know that James
is [\h__\h] insane and flies off the

3070
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:34,319
is [\h__\h] insane and flies off the
 

3071
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:37,750
is [\h__\h] insane and flies off the
handle. Uh so so uh be careful. Be don't

3072
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:37,760
handle. Uh so so uh be careful. Be don't
 

3073
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,750
handle. Uh so so uh be careful. Be don't
don't agitate him or he's going to turn

3074
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:39,760
don't agitate him or he's going to turn
 

3075
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,789
don't agitate him or he's going to turn
into a godamn lunatic right before your

3076
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:42,799
into a godamn lunatic right before your
 

3077
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:45,910
into a godamn lunatic right before your
very eyes. We heavily sedated him before

3078
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:45,920
very eyes. We heavily sedated him before
 

3079
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,630
very eyes. We heavily sedated him before
this uh before this interview. Uh but

3080
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:48,640
this uh before this interview. Uh but
 

3081
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,510
this uh before this interview. Uh but
but even even so if you say the wrong

3082
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:51,520
but even even so if you say the wrong
 

3083
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,069
but even even so if you say the wrong
thing or or if you bring up Dave Fina uh

3084
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:54,079
thing or or if you bring up Dave Fina uh
 

3085
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:56,710
thing or or if you bring up Dave Fina uh
the the the beast might get loose. So be

3086
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:56,720
the the the beast might get loose. So be
 

3087
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,150
the the the beast might get loose. So be
careful. Be careful what you do here.

3088
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:58,160
careful. Be careful what you do here.
 

3089
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,190
careful. Be careful what you do here.
Tread lightly.

3090
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:59,200
Tread lightly.
 

3091
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,789
Tread lightly.
>> That hasn't happened. Uh that experiment

3092
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:02,799
>> That hasn't happened. Uh that experiment
 

3093
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:04,630
>> That hasn't happened. Uh that experiment
there's no doubt they made amino acids,

3094
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:04,640
there's no doubt they made amino acids,
 

3095
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,630
there's no doubt they made amino acids,
but the amino acids were just a very

3096
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:06,640
but the amino acids were just a very
 

3097
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,950
but the amino acids were just a very
small amount of what was in there. There

3098
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:08,960
small amount of what was in there. There
 

3099
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,589
small amount of what was in there. There
were many other things and you have to

3100
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:11,599
were many other things and you have to
 

3101
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:13,910
were many other things and you have to
stop the reaction pretty early on or the

3102
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:13,920
stop the reaction pretty early on or the
 

3103
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,309
stop the reaction pretty early on or the
amino acids all get consumed. they

3104
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:16,319
amino acids all get consumed. they
 

3105
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:17,750
amino acids all get consumed. they
undergo something called the Millard

3106
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:17,760
undergo something called the Millard
 

3107
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,990
undergo something called the Millard
reaction where the the aman groups

3108
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:20,000
reaction where the the aman groups
 

3109
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,710
reaction where the the aman groups
reacts with an aldahhide that forms and

3110
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:22,720
reacts with an aldahhide that forms and
 

3111
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,789
reacts with an aldahhide that forms and
it it decomposes. The Millard reaction

3112
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:24,799
it it decomposes. The Millard reaction
 

3113
00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:26,789
it it decomposes. The Millard reaction
is the reason that that you put bread in

3114
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:26,799
is the reason that that you put bread in
 

3115
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:28,870
is the reason that that you put bread in
the oven and it starts to turn brown and

3116
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:28,880
the oven and it starts to turn brown and
 

3117
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,430
the oven and it starts to turn brown and
and and uh uh this this crusty part over

3118
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:31,440
and and uh uh this this crusty part over
 

3119
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,430
and and uh uh this this crusty part over
the top. This is what happens during

3120
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:33,440
the top. This is what happens during
 

3121
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,270
the top. This is what happens during
that reaction everything decomposes. So

3122
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:35,280
that reaction everything decomposes. So
 

3123
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,069
that reaction everything decomposes. So
if you stop

3124
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:36,079
if you stop
 

3125
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:38,309
if you stop
>> amino acids turn crusty brown if you

3126
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:38,319
>> amino acids turn crusty brown if you
 

3127
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:40,870
>> amino acids turn crusty brown if you
don't stop the experiment. uh is every

3128
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:40,880
don't stop the experiment. uh is every
 

3129
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,630
don't stop the experiment. uh is every
time they have to do some really dumb

3130
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:42,640
time they have to do some really dumb
 

3131
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,270
time they have to do some really dumb
analogy because like the the the create

3132
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:45,280
analogy because like the the the create
 

3133
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,349
analogy because like the the the create
the average creationist watching if you

3134
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:47,359
the average creationist watching if you
 

3135
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:49,030
the average creationist watching if you
talk about science for more than eight

3136
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:49,040
talk about science for more than eight
 

3137
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,109
talk about science for more than eight
seconds their eyes start to glaze over

3138
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:51,119
seconds their eyes start to glaze over
 

3139
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,589
seconds their eyes start to glaze over
and they go ah this is like school and

3140
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:53,599
and they go ah this is like school and
 

3141
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:55,270
and they go ah this is like school and
so you have to go no no no it's like

3142
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:55,280
so you have to go no no no it's like
 

3143
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,589
so you have to go no no no it's like
bread it's like bread don't worry it's

3144
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:57,599
bread it's like bread don't worry it's
 

3145
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,150
bread it's like bread don't worry it's
don't it's not molecules it's bread you

3146
01:00:00,150 --> 01:00:00,160
don't it's not molecules it's bread you
 

3147
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,990
don't it's not molecules it's bread you
know what bread is right okay now let me

3148
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:02,000
know what bread is right okay now let me
 

3149
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,510
know what bread is right okay now let me
I have another eight seconds to talk

3150
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:03,520
I have another eight seconds to talk
 

3151
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,190
I have another eight seconds to talk
about science before I have to talk

3152
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:05,200
about science before I have to talk
 

3153
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,829
about science before I have to talk
about some [\h__\h] that you understand um

3154
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:07,839
about some [\h__\h] that you understand um
 

3155
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:09,990
about some [\h__\h] that you understand um
yeah talking about The Milliary

3156
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:10,000
yeah talking about The Milliary
 

3157
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,670
yeah talking about The Milliary
experiment is [\h__\h] pointless. They

3158
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:11,680
experiment is [\h__\h] pointless. They
 

3159
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,270
experiment is [\h__\h] pointless. They
made amino acids. No, they don't

3160
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:13,280
made amino acids. No, they don't
 

3161
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,670
made amino acids. No, they don't
decompose. Uh, none of this [\h__\h] means

3162
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:15,680
decompose. Uh, none of this [\h__\h] means
 

3163
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,829
decompose. Uh, none of this [\h__\h] means
anything. Um, it's just they made amino

3164
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:17,839
anything. Um, it's just they made amino
 

3165
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:19,589
anything. Um, it's just they made amino
acids and then we have to talk about all

3166
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:19,599
acids and then we have to talk about all
 

3167
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,510
acids and then we have to talk about all
of the other science where it goes from

3168
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:21,520
of the other science where it goes from
 

3169
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,349
of the other science where it goes from
there. All the [\h__\h] that he that that he

3170
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:23,359
there. All the [\h__\h] that he that that he
 

3171
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:25,270
there. All the [\h__\h] that he that that he
denies, all of the polymerization of

3172
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:25,280
denies, all of the polymerization of
 

3173
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,750
denies, all of the polymerization of
amino acids to yield polyeptides, which

3174
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:27,760
amino acids to yield polyeptides, which
 

3175
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,829
amino acids to yield polyeptides, which
I showed right to his dumb face in the

3176
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:29,839
I showed right to his dumb face in the
 

3177
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:31,349
I showed right to his dumb face in the
debate, and he just shrieked like a

3178
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:31,359
debate, and he just shrieked like a
 

3179
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:33,109
debate, and he just shrieked like a
toddler and said, "Nuh-uh." But I'm sure

3180
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:33,119
toddler and said, "Nuh-uh." But I'm sure
 

3181
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:34,150
toddler and said, "Nuh-uh." But I'm sure
we're going to get to that.

3182
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:34,160
we're going to get to that.
 

3183
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,950
we're going to get to that.
>> Stop it early. Then you can find some

3184
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:36,960
>> Stop it early. Then you can find some
 

3185
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,270
>> Stop it early. Then you can find some
amino acids. But there's many other

3186
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:39,280
amino acids. But there's many other
 

3187
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,069
amino acids. But there's many other
caroxyic acids, many other amines. So

3188
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:42,079
caroxyic acids, many other amines. So
 

3189
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,270
caroxyic acids, many other amines. So
you have many other components in there.

3190
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:45,280
you have many other components in there.
 

3191
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,870
you have many other components in there.
These are it's just a very small

3192
01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:46,880
These are it's just a very small
 

3193
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,270
These are it's just a very small
quantity. And of the amino acids, you

3194
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:49,280
quantity. And of the amino acids, you
 

3195
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,870
quantity. And of the amino acids, you
get the simplest of amino acids in a

3196
01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:52,880
get the simplest of amino acids in a
 

3197
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,990
get the simplest of amino acids in a
large amount, the the glycine and the

3198
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:56,000
large amount, the the glycine and the
 

3199
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,230
large amount, the the glycine and the
alanine and the other ones in a very

3200
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:58,240
alanine and the other ones in a very
 

3201
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,589
alanine and the other ones in a very
small amount. And so

3202
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:59,599
small amount. And so
 

3203
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:00,870
small amount. And so
>> no, you got a bunch of them. So they

3204
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:00,880
>> no, you got a bunch of them. So they
 

3205
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,870
>> no, you got a bunch of them. So they
they they only detected like three or

3206
01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:02,880
they they only detected like three or
 

3207
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,510
they they only detected like three or
four at the time, but they archived the

3208
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:05,520
four at the time, but they archived the
 

3209
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,990
four at the time, but they archived the
the glassear and then they later tested

3210
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:08,000
the glassear and then they later tested
 

3211
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,870
the glassear and then they later tested
the residue and found uh I don't know

3212
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:10,880
the residue and found uh I don't know
 

3213
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,270
the residue and found uh I don't know
exactly how many, but most I think most

3214
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:13,280
exactly how many, but most I think most
 

3215
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,230
exactly how many, but most I think most
of the biologically relevant amino acids

3216
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:16,240
of the biologically relevant amino acids
 

3217
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,870
of the biologically relevant amino acids
were were were actually in there. So um

3218
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:18,880
were were were actually in there. So um
 

3219
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,589
were were were actually in there. So um
so that's not true. James just lied. So

3220
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:21,599
so that's not true. James just lied. So
 

3221
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,230
so that's not true. James just lied. So
of the the 12 or so or 10 or so that

3222
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:24,240
of the the 12 or so or 10 or so that
 

3223
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,910
of the the 12 or so or 10 or so that
they did isolate there's there's one

3224
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:27,920
they did isolate there's there's one
 

3225
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,910
they did isolate there's there's one
greatly predominates and none of that

3226
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:29,920
greatly predominates and none of that
 

3227
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,750
greatly predominates and none of that
would be useful in nature plus it didn't

3228
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:31,760
would be useful in nature plus it didn't
 

3229
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,030
would be useful in nature plus it didn't
have kirality and so that's why

3230
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:35,040
have kirality and so that's why
 

3231
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,109
have kirality and so that's why
>> where' the goalposts go they didn't have

3232
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:37,119
>> where' the goalposts go they didn't have
 

3233
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,030
>> where' the goalposts go they didn't have
kiral I mean they had kirality they were

3234
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:39,040
kiral I mean they had kirality they were
 

3235
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,230
kiral I mean they had kirality they were
recemic but uh no that's a totally

3236
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:42,240
recemic but uh no that's a totally
 

3237
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,910
recemic but uh no that's a totally
separate question right uh I won't

3238
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:43,920
separate question right uh I won't
 

3239
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,349
separate question right uh I won't
launch into that but in my content

3240
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:45,359
launch into that but in my content
 

3241
01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:46,950
launch into that but in my content
debunking James store I have multiple

3242
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:46,960
debunking James store I have multiple
 

3243
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,950
debunking James store I have multiple
videos with very very long sections

3244
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:48,960
videos with very very long sections
 

3245
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,950
videos with very very long sections
going over all the potentialities for

3246
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:50,960
going over all the potentialities for
 

3247
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,750
going over all the potentialities for
the for the uh for the for the uh

3248
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:53,760
the for the uh for the for the uh
 

3249
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,069
the for the uh for the for the uh
development of homocality in biological

3250
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:56,079
development of homocality in biological
 

3251
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,150
development of homocality in biological
molecules can happen at the monomer

3252
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:58,160
molecules can happen at the monomer
 

3253
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,270
molecules can happen at the monomer
level. I talk a lot about um a lot about

3254
01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:01,280
level. I talk a lot about um a lot about
 

3255
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,630
level. I talk a lot about um a lot about
crystallization and and and uh just

3256
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:04,640
crystallization and and and uh just
 

3257
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,710
crystallization and and and uh just
different way there's just a lot of

3258
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:06,720
different way there's just a lot of
 

3259
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,870
different way there's just a lot of
there's a lot of [\h__\h] Uh so yeah, go

3260
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:08,880
there's a lot of [\h__\h] Uh so yeah, go
 

3261
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:09,910
there's a lot of [\h__\h] Uh so yeah, go
check out that content.

3262
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:09,920
check out that content.
 

3263
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,510
check out that content.
>> Quite never led led to life.

3264
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:11,520
>> Quite never led led to life.
 

3265
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,430
>> Quite never led led to life.
>> Jim, this is more than 70 years ago.

3266
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:13,440
>> Jim, this is more than 70 years ago.
 

3267
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,870
>> Jim, this is more than 70 years ago.
What have you chemists been doing?

3268
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:14,880
What have you chemists been doing?
 

3269
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,349
What have you chemists been doing?
>> That's right.

3270
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:15,359
>> That's right.
 

3271
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:17,109
>> That's right.
>> How come nobody How come nobody's

3272
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:17,119
>> How come nobody How come nobody's
 

3273
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:18,630
>> How come nobody How come nobody's
produced a living cell yet? What's going

3274
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:18,640
produced a living cell yet? What's going
 

3275
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,150
produced a living cell yet? What's going
on? What's going

3276
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:20,160
on? What's going
 

3277
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,750
on? What's going
>> Okay, so straight to the So he's just

3278
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:21,760
>> Okay, so straight to the So he's just
 

3279
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,190
>> Okay, so straight to the So he's just
mocking. What have you guys been doing?

3280
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:23,200
mocking. What have you guys been doing?
 

3281
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,950
mocking. What have you guys been doing?
Well, a lot of [\h__\h] if you actually look

3282
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:24,960
Well, a lot of [\h__\h] if you actually look
 

3283
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,990
Well, a lot of [\h__\h] if you actually look
into it. We like people are working on

3284
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:28,000
into it. We like people are working on
 

3285
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,789
into it. We like people are working on
self-replicating sets of molecules uh

3286
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:30,799
self-replicating sets of molecules uh
 

3287
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:32,549
self-replicating sets of molecules uh
that evolve by natural selection. It's

3288
01:02:32,549 --> 01:02:32,559
that evolve by natural selection. It's
 

3289
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:34,549
that evolve by natural selection. It's
pretty [\h__\h] incredible actually. Um

3290
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:34,559
pretty [\h__\h] incredible actually. Um
 

3291
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:36,789
pretty [\h__\h] incredible actually. Um
so they're not trying to build a cell.

3292
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:36,799
so they're not trying to build a cell.
 

3293
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:39,030
so they're not trying to build a cell.
That's synthetic biology. The actual

3294
01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:39,040
That's synthetic biology. The actual
 

3295
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,750
That's synthetic biology. The actual
process by which these self-replicating

3296
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:41,760
process by which these self-replicating
 

3297
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,910
process by which these self-replicating
sets of molecules in vesicles would

3298
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:43,920
sets of molecules in vesicles would
 

3299
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,589
sets of molecules in vesicles would
yield a protoell could have taken

3300
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:45,599
yield a protoell could have taken
 

3301
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:46,950
yield a protoell could have taken
millions of years. So it's not a

3302
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:46,960
millions of years. So it's not a
 

3303
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,510
millions of years. So it's not a
realistic thing to expect uh experiments

3304
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:49,520
realistic thing to expect uh experiments
 

3305
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,589
realistic thing to expect uh experiments
with autocatalysis to yield a protoell

3306
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:51,599
with autocatalysis to yield a protoell
 

3307
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,630
with autocatalysis to yield a protoell
on their own. Um synthetic biologists uh

3308
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:54,640
on their own. Um synthetic biologists uh
 

3309
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,390
on their own. Um synthetic biologists uh
almost certainly will at some point

3310
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:56,400
almost certainly will at some point
 

3311
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,030
almost certainly will at some point
synthesize a functioning protocell. But

3312
01:02:59,030 --> 01:02:59,040
synthesize a functioning protocell. But
 

3313
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,349
synthesize a functioning protocell. But
it it's not a direct goal of origin of

3314
01:03:01,349 --> 01:03:01,359
it it's not a direct goal of origin of
 

3315
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:03,270
it it's not a direct goal of origin of
life research. I mean there's overlap.

3316
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:03,280
life research. I mean there's overlap.
 

3317
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,030
life research. I mean there's overlap.
Synthetic biology overlaps with origin

3318
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:05,040
Synthetic biology overlaps with origin
 

3319
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,549
Synthetic biology overlaps with origin
of life research. But the point is that

3320
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:06,559
of life research. But the point is that
 

3321
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:08,390
of life research. But the point is that
there's absolutely no guarantee or

3322
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:08,400
there's absolutely no guarantee or
 

3323
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,390
there's absolutely no guarantee or
indication that any kind of hypothetical

3324
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:10,400
indication that any kind of hypothetical
 

3325
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,390
indication that any kind of hypothetical
protoell that you could synthesize would

3326
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:12,400
protoell that you could synthesize would
 

3327
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,630
protoell that you could synthesize would
necessarily be the same or similar to

3328
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:14,640
necessarily be the same or similar to
 

3329
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,630
necessarily be the same or similar to
the first protoell that evolved. Right?

3330
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:16,640
the first protoell that evolved. Right?
 

3331
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,470
the first protoell that evolved. Right?
So it's not I mean it's it's cool as a

3332
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:18,480
So it's not I mean it's it's cool as a
 

3333
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,630
So it's not I mean it's it's cool as a
proof of concept, but origin of life

3334
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:20,640
proof of concept, but origin of life
 

3335
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,710
proof of concept, but origin of life
researchers are trying to figure out how

3336
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:22,720
researchers are trying to figure out how
 

3337
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,870
researchers are trying to figure out how
life evolved on Earth. The exact way

3338
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:24,880
life evolved on Earth. The exact way
 

3339
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,670
life evolved on Earth. The exact way
that it happened here, not the not the

3340
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:27,680
that it happened here, not the not the
 

3341
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,630
that it happened here, not the not the
myriad potential ways to synthesize

3342
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:30,640
myriad potential ways to synthesize
 

3343
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,710
myriad potential ways to synthesize
something like a protoell. So it's a

3344
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:32,720
something like a protoell. So it's a
 

3345
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,150
something like a protoell. So it's a
straw man. I've talked about this a lot,

3346
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:34,160
straw man. I've talked about this a lot,
 

3347
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,109
straw man. I've talked about this a lot,
but um he's jumping from the Miller Yuri

3348
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:37,119
but um he's jumping from the Miller Yuri
 

3349
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,349
but um he's jumping from the Miller Yuri
experiment to a straw man of modern

3350
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:39,359
experiment to a straw man of modern
 

3351
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:41,029
experiment to a straw man of modern
science. Uh that's it. It's all I got.

3352
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:41,039
science. Uh that's it. It's all I got.
 

3353
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:42,069
science. Uh that's it. It's all I got.
They can't do anything else

3354
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:42,079
They can't do anything else
 

3355
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,230
They can't do anything else
>> going on because it was really premature

3356
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:44,240
>> going on because it was really premature
 

3357
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,390
>> going on because it was really premature
to think that life would come from that.

3358
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:46,400
to think that life would come from that.
 

3359
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,309
to think that life would come from that.
The more we learn about the cell, the

3360
01:03:48,309 --> 01:03:48,319
The more we learn about the cell, the
 

3361
01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:51,270
The more we learn about the cell, the
harder this target gets. So, every year

3362
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:51,280
harder this target gets. So, every year
 

3363
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,750
harder this target gets. So, every year
it gets harder because the cell is more,

3364
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:53,760
it gets harder because the cell is more,
 

3365
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,589
it gets harder because the cell is more,
the farther the target escapes us.

3366
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:55,599
the farther the target escapes us.
 

3367
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:58,069
the farther the target escapes us.
>> Right. I've heard your spiel, James. I

3368
01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:58,079
>> Right. I've heard your spiel, James. I
 

3369
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,230
>> Right. I've heard your spiel, James. I
know your bag of tricks. Uh no, it

3370
01:04:00,230 --> 01:04:00,240
know your bag of tricks. Uh no, it
 

3371
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,390
know your bag of tricks. Uh no, it
doesn't get further away at all. Uh,

3372
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:02,400
doesn't get further away at all. Uh,
 

3373
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,549
doesn't get further away at all. Uh,
learning things about modern ukareotic

3374
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:04,559
learning things about modern ukareotic
 

3375
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:06,630
learning things about modern ukareotic
cells has [\h__\h] nothing to do with

3376
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:06,640
cells has [\h__\h] nothing to do with
 

3377
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,630
cells has [\h__\h] nothing to do with
what the first protoell was. The goal

3378
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:08,640
what the first protoell was. The goal
 

3379
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,630
what the first protoell was. The goal
doesn't move at all. The goal was always

3380
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:10,640
doesn't move at all. The goal was always
 

3381
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,510
doesn't move at all. The goal was always
the simplest protoell possible. And uh,

3382
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:13,520
the simplest protoell possible. And uh,
 

3383
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,670
the simplest protoell possible. And uh,
you spewing all your [\h__\h] about

3384
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:15,680
you spewing all your [\h__\h] about
 

3385
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,390
you spewing all your [\h__\h] about
interacts and all this crazy [\h__\h] and

3386
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:18,400
interacts and all this crazy [\h__\h] and
 

3387
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,950
interacts and all this crazy [\h__\h] and
the movies that Meyer plays that depict

3388
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:20,960
the movies that Meyer plays that depict
 

3389
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,589
the movies that Meyer plays that depict
modern ukareotic cells that are the

3390
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:23,599
modern ukareotic cells that are the
 

3391
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:25,190
modern ukareotic cells that are the
product of billions of years of

3392
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:25,200
product of billions of years of
 

3393
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,910
product of billions of years of
evolution has [\h__\h] nothing to do with

3394
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:27,920
evolution has [\h__\h] nothing to do with
 

3395
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,069
evolution has [\h__\h] nothing to do with
abiogenesis. It's like looking at the

3396
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:30,079
abiogenesis. It's like looking at the
 

3397
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,029
abiogenesis. It's like looking at the
Burj Khalifa and saying, "Well, how did

3398
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:33,039
Burj Khalifa and saying, "Well, how did
 

3399
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:35,349
Burj Khalifa and saying, "Well, how did
prehistoric humans first build a shack

3400
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:35,359
prehistoric humans first build a shack
 

3401
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:37,829
prehistoric humans first build a shack
of of twigs?" That's how [\h__\h] dumb

3402
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:37,839
of of twigs?" That's how [\h__\h] dumb
 

3403
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:41,270
of of twigs?" That's how [\h__\h] dumb
this is. And so, even if we move a what

3404
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:41,280
this is. And so, even if we move a what
 

3405
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,589
this is. And so, even if we move a what
we think would be a little bit closer,

3406
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:43,599
we think would be a little bit closer,
 

3407
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:46,230
we think would be a little bit closer,
the target has moved miles away versus

3408
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:46,240
the target has moved miles away versus
 

3409
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,829
the target has moved miles away versus
millimeters that we might think we're

3410
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:47,839
millimeters that we might think we're
 

3411
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,150
millimeters that we might think we're
getting closer. And that's how we know

3412
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:50,160
getting closer. And that's how we know
 

3413
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,109
getting closer. And that's how we know
we're not even close. So, you can track,

3414
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:53,119
we're not even close. So, you can track,
 

3415
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:55,109
we're not even close. So, you can track,
are we approaching a target? When will

3416
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:55,119
are we approaching a target? When will
 

3417
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:57,589
are we approaching a target? When will
we have a solution? you you you track

3418
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:57,599
we have a solution? you you you track
 

3419
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,150
we have a solution? you you you track
the distance to the target and when the

3420
01:05:00,150 --> 01:05:00,160
the distance to the target and when the
 

3421
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,990
the distance to the target and when the
target is getting further away much

3422
01:05:01,990 --> 01:05:02,000
target is getting further away much
 

3423
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,150
target is getting further away much
faster than we're approaching it's not

3424
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:04,160
faster than we're approaching it's not
 

3425
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,990
faster than we're approaching it's not
going to be next year that we find this

3426
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:06,000
going to be next year that we find this
 

3427
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,950
going to be next year that we find this
it's not going to be for many many years

3428
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:08,960
it's not going to be for many many years
 

3429
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,910
it's not going to be for many many years
this is why I say all the origin of life

3430
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:11,920
this is why I say all the origin of life
 

3431
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,710
this is why I say all the origin of life
researchers will die of old age before

3432
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:14,720
researchers will die of old age before
 

3433
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,950
researchers will die of old age before
this is discovered their children will

3434
01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:16,960
this is discovered their children will
 

3435
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,190
this is discovered their children will
their students will die of old age and

3436
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:19,200
their students will die of old age and
 

3437
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,109
their students will die of old age and
their students students will die of old

3438
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:21,119
their students students will die of old
 

3439
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:23,109
their students students will die of old
age so when you join one of these

3440
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:23,119
age so when you join one of these
 

3441
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,510
age so when you join one of these
research groups be prepared to die of

3442
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:25,520
research groups be prepared to die of
 

3443
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,710
research groups be prepared to die of
old age without

3444
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:26,720
old age without
 

3445
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,309
old age without
>> be prepared to die. I'm going to kill

3446
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:28,319
>> be prepared to die. I'm going to kill
 

3447
01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:29,829
>> be prepared to die. I'm going to kill
you because I don't want anyone working

3448
01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:29,839
you because I don't want anyone working
 

3449
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:33,589
you because I don't want anyone working
on this. Um it's just this like hey guys

3450
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:33,599
on this. Um it's just this like hey guys
 

3451
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:35,510
on this. Um it's just this like hey guys
don't even bother don't bother doing

3452
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:35,520
don't even bother don't bother doing
 

3453
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,190
don't even bother don't bother doing
this science that hurts my feelings

3454
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:37,200
this science that hurts my feelings
 

3455
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,069
this science that hurts my feelings
because you're not going to get

3456
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:38,079
because you're not going to get
 

3457
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,230
because you're not going to get
anywhere. I say so James Tor the best

3458
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:40,240
anywhere. I say so James Tor the best
 

3459
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,390
anywhere. I say so James Tor the best
scientist ever says don't study origin

3460
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:42,400
scientist ever says don't study origin
 

3461
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,470
scientist ever says don't study origin
of life research. Don't don't join that

3462
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:44,480
of life research. Don't don't join that
 

3463
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,630
of life research. Don't don't join that
field because I don't like it. I don't

3464
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:46,640
field because I don't like it. I don't
 

3465
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,029
field because I don't like it. I don't
want you guys to figure anything out. Um

3466
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:49,039
want you guys to figure anything out. Um
 

3467
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:51,990
want you guys to figure anything out. Um
every goddamn time the target is going

3468
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:52,000
every goddamn time the target is going
 

3469
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,589
every goddamn time the target is going
nowhere. The target is the first

3470
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:53,599
nowhere. The target is the first
 

3471
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:55,750
nowhere. The target is the first
protoell and the first protoell has

3472
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:55,760
protoell and the first protoell has
 

3473
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,029
protoell and the first protoell has
[\h__\h] nothing to do with extent life.

3474
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:59,039
[\h__\h] nothing to do with extent life.
 

3475
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,549
[\h__\h] nothing to do with extent life.
Has nothing to do with anything that

3476
01:06:00,549 --> 01:06:00,559
Has nothing to do with anything that
 

3477
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,870
Has nothing to do with anything that
you're talking about. Uh and it never

3478
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:02,880
you're talking about. Uh and it never
 

3479
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,230
you're talking about. Uh and it never
will. Sorry.

3480
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:04,240
will. Sorry.
 

3481
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,230
will. Sorry.
>> Without solving this. So what you mean

3482
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:06,240
>> Without solving this. So what you mean
 

3483
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,670
>> Without solving this. So what you mean
to say is that 70 years after the Yuri

3484
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:09,680
to say is that 70 years after the Yuri
 

3485
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,910
to say is that 70 years after the Yuri
Miller experiment and a good many years

3486
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:11,920
Miller experiment and a good many years
 

3487
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,990
Miller experiment and a good many years
after I and who knows how many other

3488
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:14,000
after I and who knows how many other
 

3489
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,270
after I and who knows how many other
Americans read about it in science

3490
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:15,280
Americans read about it in science
 

3491
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,789
Americans read about it in science
textbooks,

3492
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:16,799
textbooks,
 

3493
01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:19,510
textbooks,
the leaves on those trees, the fish in

3494
01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:19,520
the leaves on those trees, the fish in
 

3495
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,870
the leaves on those trees, the fish in
that lake, the four of us at this table,

3496
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:22,880
that lake, the four of us at this table,
 

3497
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,670
that lake, the four of us at this table,
we have no idea where life comes from.

3498
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:25,680
we have no idea where life comes from.
 

3499
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,829
we have no idea where life comes from.
We have absolutely no idea where life

3500
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:27,839
We have absolutely no idea where life
 

3501
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:29,910
We have absolutely no idea where life
comes from. None whatsoever.

3502
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:29,920
comes from. None whatsoever.
 

3503
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,589
comes from. None whatsoever.
>> None whatsoever. Nobody has done

3504
01:06:31,589 --> 01:06:31,599
>> None whatsoever. Nobody has done
 

3505
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,829
>> None whatsoever. Nobody has done
anything since Miller Yuri. Nobody has

3506
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:33,839
anything since Miller Yuri. Nobody has
 

3507
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,430
anything since Miller Yuri. Nobody has
done anything to elucidate origin of

3508
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:35,440
done anything to elucidate origin of
 

3509
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,150
done anything to elucidate origin of
life in 70 years except for the

3510
01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:38,160
life in 70 years except for the
 

3511
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,829
life in 70 years except for the
thousands and thousands of people that

3512
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:39,839
thousands and thousands of people that
 

3513
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:41,349
thousands and thousands of people that
have published millions and millions of

3514
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:41,359
have published millions and millions of
 

3515
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:43,349
have published millions and millions of
papers that have gotten us dramatically

3516
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:43,359
papers that have gotten us dramatically
 

3517
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:44,950
papers that have gotten us dramatically
closer to understanding the origin of

3518
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:44,960
closer to understanding the origin of
 

3519
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,630
closer to understanding the origin of
life. Uh it's just like you this is what

3520
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:48,640
life. Uh it's just like you this is what
 

3521
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,870
life. Uh it's just like you this is what
they can all they can do is literally

3522
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:50,880
they can all they can do is literally
 

3523
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,349
they can all they can do is literally
deny the entire field of science that

3524
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:53,359
deny the entire field of science that
 

3525
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:55,430
deny the entire field of science that
hurts their feelings. He's pretending it

3526
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:55,440
hurts their feelings. He's pretending it
 

3527
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,589
hurts their feelings. He's pretending it
doesn't exist even though I presented

3528
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:57,599
doesn't exist even though I presented
 

3529
01:06:57,599 --> 01:06:59,750
doesn't exist even though I presented
all of this [\h__\h] right to his [\h__\h]

3530
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:59,760
all of this [\h__\h] right to his [\h__\h]
 

3531
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,390
all of this [\h__\h] right to his [\h__\h]
face in a live debate. And all he can do

3532
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:02,400
face in a live debate. And all he can do
 

3533
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,349
face in a live debate. And all he can do
is go nuh-uh and shriek like a maniac

3534
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:05,359
is go nuh-uh and shriek like a maniac
 

3535
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:07,670
is go nuh-uh and shriek like a maniac
and play with chalk. That's all this

3536
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:07,680
and play with chalk. That's all this
 

3537
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,270
and play with chalk. That's all this
[\h__\h] guy can do. And he's never going

3538
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:09,280
[\h__\h] guy can do. And he's never going
 

3539
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,589
[\h__\h] guy can do. And he's never going
to change his tune. All he can do is

3540
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:11,599
to change his tune. All he can do is
 

3541
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:14,150
to change his tune. All he can do is
hope that people don't find my content.

3542
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:14,160
hope that people don't find my content.
 

3543
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,069
hope that people don't find my content.
They can they can character assassinate

3544
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:16,079
They can they can character assassinate
 

3545
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,789
They can they can character assassinate
me on the evolution news blog. Dave is a

3546
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:18,799
me on the evolution news blog. Dave is a
 

3547
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:20,710
me on the evolution news blog. Dave is a
stupid anti-semite heathen. Don't ever

3548
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:20,720
stupid anti-semite heathen. Don't ever
 

3549
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,029
stupid anti-semite heathen. Don't ever
watch his content. or if you do, you'll

3550
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:23,039
watch his content. or if you do, you'll
 

3551
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:25,589
watch his content. or if you do, you'll
see how [\h__\h] dumb James Tor is when

3552
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:25,599
see how [\h__\h] dumb James Tor is when
 

3553
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:27,510
see how [\h__\h] dumb James Tor is when
he tries to talk about this [\h__\h] It's

3554
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:27,520
he tries to talk about this [\h__\h] It's
 

3555
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,230
he tries to talk about this [\h__\h] It's
lit. His argument is literally nuh-uh.

3556
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:30,240
lit. His argument is literally nuh-uh.
 

3557
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,470
lit. His argument is literally nuh-uh.
All of origin of life research versus

3558
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:32,480
All of origin of life research versus
 

3559
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,510
All of origin of life research versus
nuh-uh. That's what he's got. And when

3560
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:35,520
nuh-uh. That's what he's got. And when
 

3561
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,950
nuh-uh. That's what he's got. And when
people will will say,

3562
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:36,960
people will will say,
 

3563
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,109
people will will say,
>> and you say that as a man who is a full

3564
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:39,119
>> and you say that as a man who is a full
 

3565
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:41,589
>> and you say that as a man who is a full
professor at Rice University with 130

3566
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:41,599
professor at Rice University with 130
 

3567
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:43,430
professor at Rice University with 130
patents. In other words, this is not

3568
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:43,440
patents. In other words, this is not
 

3569
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,549
patents. In other words, this is not
some snake handling uh crazy person from

3570
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:46,559
some snake handling uh crazy person from
 

3571
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,950
some snake handling uh crazy person from
>> 850 peer-reviewed publications. He's one

3572
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:48,960
>> 850 peer-reviewed publications. He's one
 

3573
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,430
>> 850 peer-reviewed publications. He's one
of the top organic synthesis chemists in

3574
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:51,440
of the top organic synthesis chemists in
 

3575
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,109
of the top organic synthesis chemists in
the world. He knows the chemistry.

3576
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:53,119
the world. He knows the chemistry.
 

3577
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:55,430
the world. He knows the chemistry.
>> He's the best scientist ever. So, don't

3578
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:55,440
>> He's the best scientist ever. So, don't
 

3579
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,270
>> He's the best scientist ever. So, don't
listen to any other scientists that

3580
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:57,280
listen to any other scientists that
 

3581
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,270
listen to any other scientists that
actually works in the field and is way

3582
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:59,280
actually works in the field and is way
 

3583
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,109
actually works in the field and is way
more qualified. Don't listen to Nobel

3584
01:08:01,109 --> 01:08:01,119
more qualified. Don't listen to Nobel
 

3585
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,710
more qualified. Don't listen to Nobel
Prize winning, right? If we're going on

3586
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:02,720
Prize winning, right? If we're going on
 

3587
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,029
Prize winning, right? If we're going on
the pecking order of of laurels, uh,

3588
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:05,039
the pecking order of of laurels, uh,
 

3589
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,510
the pecking order of of laurels, uh,
well, Jack Shastak has a has a Nobel

3590
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:07,520
well, Jack Shastak has a has a Nobel
 

3591
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,829
well, Jack Shastak has a has a Nobel
Prize, so he's more accomplished than

3592
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:09,839
Prize, so he's more accomplished than
 

3593
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:11,990
Prize, so he's more accomplished than
you, so he must be right and you must be

3594
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:12,000
you, so he must be right and you must be
 

3595
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,910
you, so he must be right and you must be
wrong. Right? If that's where we're

3596
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:13,920
wrong. Right? If that's where we're
 

3597
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,670
wrong. Right? If that's where we're
going to go, I'm going to trust the

3598
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:15,680
going to go, I'm going to trust the
 

3599
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,430
going to go, I'm going to trust the
thousands and thousands of scientists

3600
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:17,440
thousands and thousands of scientists
 

3601
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:19,430
thousands and thousands of scientists
that are much more accomplished than

3602
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:19,440
that are much more accomplished than
 

3603
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,269
that are much more accomplished than
than you that don't resort to their

3604
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:21,279
than you that don't resort to their
 

3605
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,990
than you that don't resort to their
[\h__\h] sweat shop of 40 graduate

3606
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:24,000
[\h__\h] sweat shop of 40 graduate
 

3607
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,149
[\h__\h] sweat shop of 40 graduate
students that put out dozens of papers

3608
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:26,159
students that put out dozens of papers
 

3609
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,550
students that put out dozens of papers
per year that that you have nothing to

3610
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:28,560
per year that that you have nothing to
 

3611
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,870
per year that that you have nothing to
do with, which you've admitted. You've

3612
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:30,880
do with, which you've admitted. You've
 

3613
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,269
do with, which you've admitted. You've
publicly admitted to the fact that you

3614
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:33,279
publicly admitted to the fact that you
 

3615
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,110
publicly admitted to the fact that you
just go, "Oh, my students make all this

3616
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:35,120
just go, "Oh, my students make all this
 

3617
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,950
just go, "Oh, my students make all this
[\h__\h] and I just put my name on it and I

3618
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:36,960
[\h__\h] and I just put my name on it and I
 

3619
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,030
[\h__\h] and I just put my name on it and I
get the paper. It's incredible." He flat

3620
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:39,040
get the paper. It's incredible." He flat
 

3621
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,349
get the paper. It's incredible." He flat
out [\h__\h] said that in an interview.

3622
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:41,359
out [\h__\h] said that in an interview.
 

3623
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:44,149
out [\h__\h] said that in an interview.
Um, so sorry James, your papers don't

3624
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:44,159
Um, so sorry James, your papers don't
 

3625
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:45,910
Um, so sorry James, your papers don't
[\h__\h] matter. They have nothing to do

3626
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:45,920
[\h__\h] matter. They have nothing to do
 

3627
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,749
[\h__\h] matter. They have nothing to do
with origin of life research. You don't

3628
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:47,759
with origin of life research. You don't
 

3629
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,829
with origin of life research. You don't
understand the field. And anytime people

3630
01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:49,839
understand the field. And anytime people
 

3631
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:51,590
understand the field. And anytime people
prove to you that you're wrong, you just

3632
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:51,600
prove to you that you're wrong, you just
 

3633
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,669
prove to you that you're wrong, you just
go like this and shout. That's all it

3634
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:53,679
go like this and shout. That's all it
 

3635
01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:56,470
go like this and shout. That's all it
is. So sorry, Meer. I know that you rest

3636
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:56,480
is. So sorry, Meer. I know that you rest
 

3637
01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:58,789
is. So sorry, Meer. I know that you rest
on James really heavily because he's

3638
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:58,799
on James really heavily because he's
 

3639
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:02,070
on James really heavily because he's
literally the only actively publishing

3640
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:02,080
literally the only actively publishing
 

3641
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,229
literally the only actively publishing
scientist that works for Discovery

3642
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:04,239
scientist that works for Discovery
 

3643
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:07,510
scientist that works for Discovery
Institute. Um, but he's a buffoon that

3644
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:07,520
Institute. Um, but he's a buffoon that
 

3645
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,149
Institute. Um, but he's a buffoon that
has been discredited by yours truly.

3646
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:10,159
has been discredited by yours truly.
 

3647
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:11,829
has been discredited by yours truly.
You're very welcome.

3648
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:11,839
You're very welcome.
 

3649
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:13,990
You're very welcome.
>> So, the the chemistry just doesn't work

3650
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:14,000
>> So, the the chemistry just doesn't work
 

3651
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,789
>> So, the the chemistry just doesn't work
and and we're nowhere close there.

3652
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:16,799
and and we're nowhere close there.
 

3653
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:19,749
and and we're nowhere close there.
That's just one problem of a thousand

3654
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:19,759
That's just one problem of a thousand
 

3655
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:21,590
That's just one problem of a thousand
problems that have to be solved in order

3656
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:21,600
problems that have to be solved in order
 

3657
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,149
problems that have to be solved in order
to get life. So, we're very far from

3658
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:24,159
to get life. So, we're very far from
 

3659
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:26,630
to get life. So, we're very far from
understanding where life comes from. And

3660
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:26,640
understanding where life comes from. And
 

3661
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,550
understanding where life comes from. And
>> chemistry is only one problem. There's a

3662
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:28,560
>> chemistry is only one problem. There's a
 

3663
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,269
>> chemistry is only one problem. There's a
thousand problems. There's the chemistry

3664
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:31,279
thousand problems. There's the chemistry
 

3665
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,390
thousand problems. There's the chemistry
and then um I don't know more. There's a

3666
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:34,400
and then um I don't know more. There's a
 

3667
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,390
and then um I don't know more. There's a
bunch more. That's it. I don't know.

3668
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:36,400
bunch more. That's it. I don't know.
 

3669
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,430
bunch more. That's it. I don't know.
That's what the [\h__\h] And and and so

3670
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:39,440
That's what the [\h__\h] And and and so
 

3671
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:41,110
That's what the [\h__\h] And and and so
there there's other questions about why

3672
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:41,120
there there's other questions about why
 

3673
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,950
there there's other questions about why
why they would keep suggesting that that

3674
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:42,960
why they would keep suggesting that that
 

3675
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,349
why they would keep suggesting that that
we're close when we're not. But but as

3676
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:45,359
we're close when we're not. But but as
 

3677
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:48,630
we're close when we're not. But but as
far as where we are, nowhere close.

3678
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:48,640
far as where we are, nowhere close.
 

3679
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,709
far as where we are, nowhere close.
Absolutely clueless on the origin of

3680
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:50,719
Absolutely clueless on the origin of
 

3681
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:51,269
Absolutely clueless on the origin of
life.

3682
01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:51,279
life.
 

3683
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,630
life.
>> Got it. May May I take a a cut at the

3684
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:54,640
>> Got it. May May I take a a cut at the
 

3685
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,270
>> Got it. May May I take a a cut at the
idea of that the target receiving unpack

3686
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:57,280
idea of that the target receiving unpack
 

3687
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,870
idea of that the target receiving unpack
that metaphor? because the target

3688
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:58,880
that metaphor? because the target
 

3689
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,189
that metaphor? because the target
receding corresponds not to something

3690
01:10:01,189 --> 01:10:01,199
receding corresponds not to something
 

3691
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,470
receding corresponds not to something
changing in the cell but rather are

3692
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:04,480
changing in the cell but rather are
 

3693
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:06,229
changing in the cell but rather are
getting more and more understanding of

3694
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:06,239
getting more and more understanding of
 

3695
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,310
getting more and more understanding of
the complexity of the cell. And one of

3696
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:08,320
the complexity of the cell. And one of
 

3697
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,070
the complexity of the cell. And one of
the huge ironies of the of the 1952 1953

3698
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:12,080
the huge ironies of the of the 1952 1953
 

3699
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,310
the huge ironies of the of the 1952 1953
experiment with with Miller and Yuri is

3700
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:14,320
experiment with with Miller and Yuri is
 

3701
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,510
experiment with with Miller and Yuri is
that in 1953, the same year when their

3702
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:17,520
that in 1953, the same year when their
 

3703
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,870
that in 1953, the same year when their
publication comes out about the

3704
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:18,880
publication comes out about the
 

3705
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,950
publication comes out about the
experiment, we also have the first

3706
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:20,960
experiment, we also have the first
 

3707
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,950
experiment, we also have the first
elucidation of the DNA molecule with

3708
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:22,960
elucidation of the DNA molecule with
 

3709
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,790
elucidation of the DNA molecule with
Watson and Crick. And what they

3710
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:24,800
Watson and Crick. And what they
 

3711
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,030
Watson and Crick. And what they
discovered and and subsequent to that

3712
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:27,040
discovered and and subsequent to that
 

3713
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,750
discovered and and subsequent to that
was that the DNA contains information in

3714
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:29,760
was that the DNA contains information in
 

3715
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,070
was that the DNA contains information in
a digital form and it's part of a

3716
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:32,080
a digital form and it's part of a
 

3717
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,709
a digital form and it's part of a
complex information processing system

3718
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:34,719
complex information processing system
 

3719
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:37,030
complex information processing system
that makes life possible. So it's not

3720
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:37,040
that makes life possible. So it's not
 

3721
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,310
that makes life possible. So it's not
>> Wow. Wow. Except you keep uh pretending

3722
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:40,320
>> Wow. Wow. Except you keep uh pretending
 

3723
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,630
>> Wow. Wow. Except you keep uh pretending
that we need DNA for life when we don't.

3724
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:42,640
that we need DNA for life when we don't.
 

3725
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,750
that we need DNA for life when we don't.
The first life utilized RNA, not DNA. So

3726
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:45,760
The first life utilized RNA, not DNA. So
 

3727
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,669
The first life utilized RNA, not DNA. So
every time you guys bring up DNA, you

3728
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:47,679
every time you guys bring up DNA, you
 

3729
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:49,510
every time you guys bring up DNA, you
sound like [\h__\h] idiots. Um but it

3730
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:49,520
sound like [\h__\h] idiots. Um but it
 

3731
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,030
sound like [\h__\h] idiots. Um but it
sounds like we're going to get into

3732
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:51,040
sounds like we're going to get into
 

3733
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,830
sounds like we're going to get into
specified information. That's the Demsky

3734
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:53,840
specified information. That's the Demsky
 

3735
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,390
specified information. That's the Demsky
[\h__\h] That's why I had to very recently

3736
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:56,400
[\h__\h] That's why I had to very recently
 

3737
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,229
[\h__\h] That's why I had to very recently
do uh do another debunk for the

3738
01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:58,239
do uh do another debunk for the
 

3739
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:00,149
do uh do another debunk for the
Discovery Institute playlist on Demsky.

3740
01:11:00,149 --> 01:11:00,159
Discovery Institute playlist on Demsky.
 

3741
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:01,669
Discovery Institute playlist on Demsky.
So, if you're interested in learning

3742
01:11:01,669 --> 01:11:01,679
So, if you're interested in learning
 

3743
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:03,990
So, if you're interested in learning
about why all this specified information

3744
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:04,000
about why all this specified information
 

3745
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,390
about why all this specified information
[\h__\h] is nothing but propaganda, uh

3746
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:06,400
[\h__\h] is nothing but propaganda, uh
 

3747
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,830
[\h__\h] is nothing but propaganda, uh
that would be the video that I would

3748
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:07,840
that would be the video that I would
 

3749
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,950
that would be the video that I would
suggest.

3750
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:08,960
suggest.
 

3751
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,950
suggest.
>> Amino acids are just building blocks of

3752
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:10,960
>> Amino acids are just building blocks of
 

3753
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,870
>> Amino acids are just building blocks of
proteins. Proteins are important

3754
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:12,880
proteins. Proteins are important
 

3755
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,110
proteins. Proteins are important
components in an information processing

3756
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:15,120
components in an information processing
 

3757
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,350
components in an information processing
system that's reading the information

3758
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:17,360
system that's reading the information
 

3759
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,669
system that's reading the information
from the DNA to make the important

3760
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:19,679
from the DNA to make the important
 

3761
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:21,110
from the DNA to make the important
molecular machines. How long is a

3762
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:21,120
molecular machines. How long is a
 

3763
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,189
molecular machines. How long is a
typical strand of of DNA?

3764
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:23,199
typical strand of of DNA?
 

3765
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:25,350
typical strand of of DNA?
>> Well, it depends on the organism, but

3766
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:25,360
>> Well, it depends on the organism, but
 

3767
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,390
>> Well, it depends on the organism, but
>> a simple cell.

3768
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:26,400
>> a simple cell.
 

3769
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,750
>> a simple cell.
>> Simple a simple cell.

3770
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:27,760
>> Simple a simple cell.
 

3771
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,750
>> Simple a simple cell.
>> Yeah.

3772
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:29,760
>> Yeah.
 

3773
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,750
>> Yeah.
I I mean, a human being, it'll be 2 m

3774
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:31,760
I I mean, a human being, it'll be 2 m
 

3775
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,709
I I mean, a human being, it'll be 2 m
long. I mean, in in each cell,

3776
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:34,719
long. I mean, in in each cell,
 

3777
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,750
long. I mean, in in each cell,
>> yes. So, what you're saying is we now 3

3778
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:37,760
>> yes. So, what you're saying is we now 3
 

3779
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,149
>> yes. So, what you're saying is we now 3
million characters, but in the simplest

3780
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:40,159
million characters, but in the simplest
 

3781
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:42,550
million characters, but in the simplest
of cells, it's going to be at least

3782
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:42,560
of cells, it's going to be at least
 

3783
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,669
of cells, it's going to be at least
thousands of units long. But the deep

3784
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:45,679
thousands of units long. But the deep
 

3785
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:48,790
thousands of units long. But the deep
>> I love when Meyer Meyer's like, "James,

3786
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:48,800
>> I love when Meyer Meyer's like, "James,
 

3787
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,270
>> I love when Meyer Meyer's like, "James,
you are here for one thing only.

3788
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:51,280
you are here for one thing only.
 

3789
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,350
you are here for one thing only.
Prebiotic chemistry and and trying to

3790
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:53,360
Prebiotic chemistry and and trying to
 

3791
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,430
Prebiotic chemistry and and trying to
assassinate the concept of origin of

3792
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:55,440
assassinate the concept of origin of
 

3793
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,590
assassinate the concept of origin of
life research. Do not talk about

3794
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:57,600
life research. Do not talk about
 

3795
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,590
life research. Do not talk about
anything else." But he can't. Like he

3796
01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:59,600
anything else." But he can't. Like he
 

3797
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,350
anything else." But he can't. Like he
tried to interrupt him, but James is

3798
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:01,360
tried to interrupt him, but James is
 

3799
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,910
tried to interrupt him, but James is
like he's like just dialing it up a

3800
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:03,920
like he's like just dialing it up a
 

3801
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,830
like he's like just dialing it up a
little bit. Uh and Mar's like, "Oh god."

3802
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:05,840
little bit. Uh and Mar's like, "Oh god."
 

3803
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,510
little bit. Uh and Mar's like, "Oh god."
Okay, just let James speak a little bit.

3804
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:07,520
Okay, just let James speak a little bit.
 

3805
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,910
Okay, just let James speak a little bit.
Please don't humiliate us.

3806
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:09,920
Please don't humiliate us.
 

3807
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,390
Please don't humiliate us.
>> DNA is not a protein. every one of these

3808
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:12,400
>> DNA is not a protein. every one of these
 

3809
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,270
>> DNA is not a protein. every one of these
molecules. I mean, the the amino acids

3810
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:15,280
molecules. I mean, the the amino acids
 

3811
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,709
molecules. I mean, the the amino acids
are are make proteins. DNA is an il is

3812
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:18,719
are are make proteins. DNA is an il is
 

3813
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:21,830
are are make proteins. DNA is an il is
an iligonucleotide. It's it's and so

3814
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:21,840
an iligonucleotide. It's it's and so
 

3815
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,990
an iligonucleotide. It's it's and so
>> it's a poly it's a polyucleotide.

3816
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:24,000
>> it's a poly it's a polyucleotide.
 

3817
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,470
>> it's a poly it's a polyucleotide.
>> You need to solve the sugar problem and

3818
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:26,480
>> You need to solve the sugar problem and
 

3819
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:28,070
>> You need to solve the sugar problem and
you need to to solve

3820
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:28,080
you need to to solve
 

3821
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,830
you need to to solve
>> if we were to create this on on our own.

3822
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:29,840
>> if we were to create this on on our own.
 

3823
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,070
>> if we were to create this on on our own.
>> Yeah. I I mean DNA is a whole different

3824
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:32,080
>> Yeah. I I mean DNA is a whole different
 

3825
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,390
>> Yeah. I I mean DNA is a whole different
class of compounds. So So there are four

3826
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:34,400
class of compounds. So So there are four
 

3827
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,990
class of compounds. So So there are four
different classes of compounds that were

3828
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:36,000
different classes of compounds that were
 

3829
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,830
different classes of compounds that were
made out of. None of these have been

3830
01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:37,840
made out of. None of these have been
 

3831
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,830
made out of. None of these have been
solved. You just Miller Yuri just looked

3832
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:39,840
solved. You just Miller Yuri just looked
 

3833
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,229
solved. You just Miller Yuri just looked
at the building blocks of the building

3834
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:42,239
at the building blocks of the building
 

3835
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,470
at the building blocks of the building
blocks and that was a mess

3836
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:44,480
blocks and that was a mess
 

3837
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:45,830
blocks and that was a mess
>> and then you got to link the building

3838
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:45,840
>> and then you got to link the building
 

3839
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,430
>> and then you got to link the building
blocks and then you got to sequence them

3840
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:47,440
blocks and then you got to sequence them
 

3841
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,430
blocks and then you got to sequence them
properly and they don't want to hold on.

3842
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:49,440
properly and they don't want to hold on.
 

3843
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:53,189
properly and they don't want to hold on.
Oh, so so grant every bit of that. But

3844
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:53,199
Oh, so so grant every bit of that. But
 

3845
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:55,270
Oh, so so grant every bit of that. But
but here's in what's in my head is if I

3846
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:55,280
but here's in what's in my head is if I
 

3847
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,590
but here's in what's in my head is if I
understand it correctly way way back in

3848
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:57,600
understand it correctly way way back in
 

3849
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,070
understand it correctly way way back in
the days of Charles Darwin, the general

3850
01:13:00,070 --> 01:13:00,080
the days of Charles Darwin, the general
 

3851
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,950
the days of Charles Darwin, the general
assumption about this the single cell

3852
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:02,960
assumption about this the single cell
 

3853
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,870
assumption about this the single cell
that was that it was a simple form of

3854
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:04,880
that was that it was a simple form of
 

3855
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,709
that was that it was a simple form of
life. There was some sort of vague

3856
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:06,719
life. There was some sort of vague
 

3857
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:09,750
life. There was some sort of vague
notion that it was like a little blob of

3858
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:09,760
notion that it was like a little blob of
 

3859
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,510
notion that it was like a little blob of
jello or that it was simple. And now

3860
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:13,520
jello or that it was simple. And now
 

3861
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,350
jello or that it was simple. And now
>> Darwin was so dumb. Everybody in

3862
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:15,360
>> Darwin was so dumb. Everybody in
 

3863
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,110
>> Darwin was so dumb. Everybody in
Darwin's time thought that cells were

3864
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:17,120
Darwin's time thought that cells were
 

3865
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,870
Darwin's time thought that cells were
simple, but they're not. They're super

3866
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:18,880
simple, but they're not. They're super
 

3867
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,790
simple, but they're not. They're super
duper complicated. It's almost like

3868
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:20,800
duper complicated. It's almost like
 

3869
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,630
duper complicated. It's almost like
they're the product of billions of

3870
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:22,640
they're the product of billions of
 

3871
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,430
they're the product of billions of
[\h__\h] years of evolution that has

3872
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:25,440
[\h__\h] years of evolution that has
 

3873
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:26,709
[\h__\h] years of evolution that has
nothing to do with what the first

3874
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:26,719
nothing to do with what the first
 

3875
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:29,590
nothing to do with what the first
protocell was. It's just they cannot do

3876
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:29,600
protocell was. It's just they cannot do
 

3877
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,950
protocell was. It's just they cannot do
anything but this. They cannot genuinely

3878
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:32,960
anything but this. They cannot genuinely
 

3879
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,430
anything but this. They cannot genuinely
express what origin of life researchers

3880
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:35,440
express what origin of life researchers
 

3881
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,830
express what origin of life researchers
are working on. They cannot genuinely

3882
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:37,840
are working on. They cannot genuinely
 

3883
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,470
are working on. They cannot genuinely
talk about systems chemistry and what we

3884
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:40,480
talk about systems chemistry and what we
 

3885
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:42,390
talk about systems chemistry and what we
understand about uh about about

3886
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:42,400
understand about uh about about
 

3887
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,950
understand about uh about about
replicators and what the actual genuine

3888
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:44,960
replicators and what the actual genuine
 

3889
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,950
replicators and what the actual genuine
target is which had virtually none of

3890
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:46,960
target is which had virtually none of
 

3891
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,830
target is which had virtually none of
the features of of modern modern

3892
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:49,840
the features of of modern modern
 

3893
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,750
the features of of modern modern
ukarotic cells. They don't even show

3894
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:51,760
ukarotic cells. They don't even show
 

3895
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,550
ukarotic cells. They don't even show
proarotes. Sometimes they do but usually

3896
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:54,560
proarotes. Sometimes they do but usually
 

3897
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,030
proarotes. Sometimes they do but usually
they're looking at modern ukarotic cells

3898
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:57,040
they're looking at modern ukarotic cells
 

3899
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,270
they're looking at modern ukarotic cells
with tons of organels in there. Yeah. No

3900
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:59,280
with tons of organels in there. Yeah. No
 

3901
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,310
with tons of organels in there. Yeah. No
[\h__\h] that we can't show how that arose

3902
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:02,320
[\h__\h] that we can't show how that arose
 

3903
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,790
[\h__\h] that we can't show how that arose
by chance because it [\h__\h] didn't. It

3904
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:04,800
by chance because it [\h__\h] didn't. It
 

3905
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,790
by chance because it [\h__\h] didn't. It
arose as the product of billions of

3906
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:06,800
arose as the product of billions of
 

3907
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,390
arose as the product of billions of
years of evolution. God damn it. But go

3908
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:08,400
years of evolution. God damn it. But go
 

3909
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,310
years of evolution. God damn it. But go
ahead, show your movie. Show your movie

3910
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:10,320
ahead, show your movie. Show your movie
 

3911
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,709
ahead, show your movie. Show your movie
belt. Look at the crazy look at crazy

3912
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:12,719
belt. Look at the crazy look at crazy
 

3913
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:15,270
belt. Look at the crazy look at crazy
thing in modern cell. Look at crazy

3914
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:15,280
thing in modern cell. Look at crazy
 

3915
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,750
thing in modern cell. Look at crazy
thing in modern cell. Therefore, God and

3916
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:17,760
thing in modern cell. Therefore, God and
 

3917
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,229
thing in modern cell. Therefore, God and
uh random processes could never could

3918
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:20,239
uh random processes could never could
 

3919
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:24,229
uh random processes could never could
never form this um com the most the most

3920
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:24,239
never form this um com the most the most
 

3921
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:26,470
never form this um com the most the most
unbelievable straw man imaginable. And

3922
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:26,480
unbelievable straw man imaginable. And
 

3923
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,709
unbelievable straw man imaginable. And
they will never put it down. No matter

3924
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:28,719
they will never put it down. No matter
 

3925
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:30,149
they will never put it down. No matter
how many times they're called out for

3926
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:30,159
how many times they're called out for
 

3927
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,669
how many times they're called out for
it, they'll never do it. We look inside

3928
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:33,679
it, they'll never do it. We look inside
 

3929
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:35,990
it, they'll never do it. We look inside
every single one of cells and it's as

3930
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:36,000
every single one of cells and it's as
 

3931
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,350
every single one of cells and it's as
though we find a code or written

3932
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:39,360
though we find a code or written
 

3933
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:40,870
though we find a code or written
instructions

3934
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:40,880
instructions
 

3935
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,310
instructions
2 meters long

3936
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:42,320
2 meters long
 

3937
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,830
2 meters long
>> in every single cell. Is that correct?

3938
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:43,840
>> in every single cell. Is that correct?
 

3939
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,270
>> in every single cell. Is that correct?
>> Well, in a human cell, it'll be that

3940
01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:45,280
>> Well, in a human cell, it'll be that
 

3941
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,110
>> Well, in a human cell, it'll be that
long. In a simple cell, it'll be

3942
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:47,120
long. In a simple cell, it'll be
 

3943
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,430
long. In a simple cell, it'll be
shorter, but you still have all these

3944
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:49,440
shorter, but you still have all these
 

3945
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:52,149
shorter, but you still have all these
levels of of of

3946
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:52,159
levels of of of
 

3947
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:54,229
levels of of of
>> molecules that you have to deal with it.

3948
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:54,239
>> molecules that you have to deal with it.
 

3949
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,390
>> molecules that you have to deal with it.
It's so much more complex than than what

3950
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:56,400
It's so much more complex than than what
 

3951
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,790
It's so much more complex than than what
you're thinking. So much more. So it's

3952
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:58,800
you're thinking. So much more. So it's
 

3953
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,630
you're thinking. So much more. So it's
more complex than you're just looking at

3954
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:00,640
more complex than you're just looking at
 

3955
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,229
more complex than you're just looking at
one little thing. And so now when you

3956
01:15:02,229 --> 01:15:02,239
one little thing. And so now when you
 

3957
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,189
one little thing. And so now when you
look into the cell next year, you see

3958
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:05,199
look into the cell next year, you see
 

3959
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:07,430
look into the cell next year, you see
more that you'd have to solve in order

3960
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:07,440
more that you'd have to solve in order
 

3961
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:10,070
more that you'd have to solve in order
to get the simplest of cells to work. So

3962
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:10,080
to get the simplest of cells to work. So
 

3963
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,270
to get the simplest of cells to work. So
So we want to look

3964
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:11,280
So we want to look
 

3965
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,350
So we want to look
>> No, not the simplest of cells. There are

3966
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:13,360
>> No, not the simplest of cells. There are
 

3967
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,590
>> No, not the simplest of cells. There are
cells that are way more that are way

3968
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:15,600
cells that are way more that are way
 

3969
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,910
cells that are way more that are way
simpler than you [\h__\h] ukareotic

3970
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:17,920
simpler than you [\h__\h] ukareotic
 

3971
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,590
simpler than you [\h__\h] ukareotic
cells. They're called proaryotic cells.

3972
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:19,600
cells. They're called proaryotic cells.
 

3973
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,110
cells. They're called proaryotic cells.
And there are cells that are way simpler

3974
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:21,120
And there are cells that are way simpler
 

3975
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,750
And there are cells that are way simpler
than that. Even proaryotic cells are the

3976
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:23,760
than that. Even proaryotic cells are the
 

3977
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,149
than that. Even proaryotic cells are the
products of bacteria are the products of

3978
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:26,159
products of bacteria are the products of
 

3979
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:29,030
products of bacteria are the products of
billions of years of evolution. It it's

3980
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:29,040
billions of years of evolution. It it's
 

3981
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,669
billions of years of evolution. It it's
just it like why do I even do these at a

3982
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:31,679
just it like why do I even do these at a
 

3983
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:33,350
just it like why do I even do these at a
certain point where it's just me yelling

3984
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:33,360
certain point where it's just me yelling
 

3985
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,870
certain point where it's just me yelling
the same [\h__\h] for the 47th time. They

3986
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:36,880
the same [\h__\h] for the 47th time. They
 

3987
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,669
the same [\h__\h] for the 47th time. They
will never stop with this [\h__\h]

3988
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:39,679
will never stop with this [\h__\h]
 

3989
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:42,390
will never stop with this [\h__\h]
script. This exact script. Look at crazy

3990
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:42,400
script. This exact script. Look at crazy
 

3991
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,630
script. This exact script. Look at crazy
modern ukarotic cell. Therefore god.

3992
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:44,640
modern ukarotic cell. Therefore god.
 

3993
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,030
modern ukarotic cell. Therefore god.
That's it. They cannot do anything but

3994
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:47,040
That's it. They cannot do anything but
 

3995
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:47,590
That's it. They cannot do anything but
this.

3996
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:47,600
this.
 

3997
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,550
this.
>> Look at the simplest of cells. something

3998
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:50,560
>> Look at the simplest of cells. something
 

3999
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,030
>> Look at the simplest of cells. something
something like a bacterium, something

4000
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:53,040
something like a bacterium, something
 

4001
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,070
something like a bacterium, something
very simple. Even with that, there's so

4002
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:56,080
very simple. Even with that, there's so
 

4003
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,070
very simple. Even with that, there's so
many layers of communication that you

4004
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:58,080
many layers of communication that you
 

4005
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,229
many layers of communication that you
have to have. It's not just taking all

4006
01:16:00,229 --> 01:16:00,239
have to have. It's not just taking all
 

4007
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:02,550
have to have. It's not just taking all
these classes of compounds and throwing

4008
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:02,560
these classes of compounds and throwing
 

4009
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,590
these classes of compounds and throwing
them into into the the the lipid

4010
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:05,600
them into into the the the lipid
 

4011
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,990
them into into the the the lipid
membrane, right? Because nature also

4012
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:08,000
membrane, right? Because nature also
 

4013
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,709
membrane, right? Because nature also
didn't do that. Nature didn't take a

4014
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:10,719
didn't do that. Nature didn't take a
 

4015
01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:12,630
didn't do that. Nature didn't take a
bunch of molecules, make them float

4016
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:12,640
bunch of molecules, make them float
 

4017
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,750
bunch of molecules, make them float
together, and go, "Oh, got a bacterium."

4018
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:15,760
together, and go, "Oh, got a bacterium."
 

4019
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,950
together, and go, "Oh, got a bacterium."
That never [\h__\h] happened. Nobody is

4020
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:18,960
That never [\h__\h] happened. Nobody is
 

4021
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,350
That never [\h__\h] happened. Nobody is
suggesting that that happened. We had

4022
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:21,360
suggesting that that happened. We had
 

4023
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,510
suggesting that that happened. We had
systems of self-replicating molecules

4024
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:23,520
systems of self-replicating molecules
 

4025
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,830
systems of self-replicating molecules
enclosed in vesicles that evolved and

4026
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:25,840
enclosed in vesicles that evolved and
 

4027
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,990
enclosed in vesicles that evolved and
complexified over time to yield the

4028
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:28,000
complexified over time to yield the
 

4029
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,550
complexified over time to yield the
first protocell. So honestly where that

4030
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:30,560
first protocell. So honestly where that
 

4031
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,950
first protocell. So honestly where that
first the first thing that qualifies as

4032
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:32,960
first the first thing that qualifies as
 

4033
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,350
first the first thing that qualifies as
life is completely ambiguous. You have a

4034
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:35,360
life is completely ambiguous. You have a
 

4035
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,270
life is completely ambiguous. You have a
physicochemical continuum where you have

4036
01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:37,280
physicochemical continuum where you have
 

4037
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,189
physicochemical continuum where you have
systems of molecules and then over here

4038
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:39,199
systems of molecules and then over here
 

4039
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,510
systems of molecules and then over here
you have undeniable protoells and you

4040
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:41,520
you have undeniable protoells and you
 

4041
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,590
you have undeniable protoells and you
would be hardressed to say which

4042
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:43,600
would be hardressed to say which
 

4043
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,310
would be hardressed to say which
generation say okay now we have life.

4044
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:46,320
generation say okay now we have life.
 

4045
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,709
generation say okay now we have life.
It's very ambiguous where that would be.

4046
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:48,719
It's very ambiguous where that would be.
 

4047
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:50,470
It's very ambiguous where that would be.
But I tell you what it won't be. It

4048
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:50,480
But I tell you what it won't be. It
 

4049
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:52,709
But I tell you what it won't be. It
won't be a [\h__\h] bacterium. It won't

4050
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:52,719
won't be a [\h__\h] bacterium. It won't
 

4051
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:55,750
won't be a [\h__\h] bacterium. It won't
be a bacterium with with psyia and

4052
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:55,760
be a bacterium with with psyia and
 

4053
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,910
be a bacterium with with psyia and
fleella and whatever the [\h__\h] other

4054
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:57,920
fleella and whatever the [\h__\h] other
 

4055
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,189
fleella and whatever the [\h__\h] other
structural features you want to point

4056
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:59,199
structural features you want to point
 

4057
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:01,110
structural features you want to point
to. That is a product of billions of

4058
01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:01,120
to. That is a product of billions of
 

4059
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,430
to. That is a product of billions of
years of evolution. You [\h__\h] [\h__\h]

4060
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:03,440
years of evolution. You [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
 

4061
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:04,870
years of evolution. You [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
Try to get it through your head. I don't

4062
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:04,880
Try to get it through your head. I don't
 

4063
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,430
Try to get it through your head. I don't
think you can. That would be like saying

4064
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:07,440
think you can. That would be like saying
 

4065
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,229
think you can. That would be like saying
I could take all the parts of the engine

4066
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:10,239
I could take all the parts of the engine
 

4067
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,790
I could take all the parts of the engine
of my car, take them all apart, and

4068
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:12,800
of my car, take them all apart, and
 

4069
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,390
of my car, take them all apart, and
throw them into the passenger

4070
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:14,400
throw them into the passenger
 

4071
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,470
throw them into the passenger
compartment. And if I just wait long

4072
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:16,480
compartment. And if I just wait long
 

4073
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,630
compartment. And if I just wait long
enough and shake it long enough, that

4074
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:18,640
enough and shake it long enough, that
 

4075
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,669
enough and shake it long enough, that
engine would assemble, mount itself, and

4076
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:21,679
engine would assemble, mount itself, and
 

4077
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:23,270
engine would assemble, mount itself, and
everything would start working again.

4078
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:23,280
everything would start working again.
 

4079
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,189
everything would start working again.
Nobody would think that. Yeah, because

4080
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:25,199
Nobody would think that. Yeah, because
 

4081
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:26,630
Nobody would think that. Yeah, because
it's a really [\h__\h] dumb thing to

4082
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:26,640
it's a really [\h__\h] dumb thing to
 

4083
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,709
it's a really [\h__\h] dumb thing to
think that does not in any way represent

4084
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:28,719
think that does not in any way represent
 

4085
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:30,550
think that does not in any way represent
anything about science whatsoever. You

4086
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:30,560
anything about science whatsoever. You
 

4087
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,390
anything about science whatsoever. You
can't This is Ken Hovind. This is a

4088
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:32,400
can't This is Ken Hovind. This is a
 

4089
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,630
can't This is Ken Hovind. This is a
Kenth Hovind argument. And on my very

4090
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:34,640
Kenth Hovind argument. And on my very
 

4091
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,709
Kenth Hovind argument. And on my very
first two-part response to him, I was

4092
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:36,719
first two-part response to him, I was
 

4093
01:17:36,719 --> 01:17:38,390
first two-part response to him, I was
actually shocked that that that's what

4094
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:38,400
actually shocked that that that's what
 

4095
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,830
actually shocked that that that's what
he came out of the gate with. Remember

4096
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:39,840
he came out of the gate with. Remember
 

4097
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,350
he came out of the gate with. Remember
when I made my very first little

4098
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:41,360
when I made my very first little
 

4099
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,510
when I made my very first little
45minute video on him? That was in

4100
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:43,520
45minute video on him? That was in
 

4101
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,870
45minute video on him? That was in
retrospect. so kind and so polite. I

4102
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:46,880
retrospect. so kind and so polite. I
 

4103
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,709
retrospect. so kind and so polite. I
called him a respected scientist. I said

4104
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:48,719
called him a respected scientist. I said
 

4105
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:51,270
called him a respected scientist. I said
he's not a con man. I was so nice to

4106
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:51,280
he's not a con man. I was so nice to
 

4107
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,270
he's not a con man. I was so nice to
him. Um, and then he came with the

4108
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:53,280
him. Um, and then he came with the
 

4109
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,990
him. Um, and then he came with the
14-part series, Dave is a [\h__\h] blah,

4110
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:56,000
14-part series, Dave is a [\h__\h] blah,
 

4111
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,229
14-part series, Dave is a [\h__\h] blah,
blah, blah. And this is what he started

4112
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:58,239
blah, blah. And this is what he started
 

4113
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,630
blah, blah. And this is what he started
with. He did the Kent Hovind [\h__\h] of

4114
01:18:00,630 --> 01:18:00,640
with. He did the Kent Hovind [\h__\h] of
 

4115
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,030
with. He did the Kent Hovind [\h__\h] of
like [\h__\h] tornado through a junkyard.

4116
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:03,040
like [\h__\h] tornado through a junkyard.
 

4117
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,189
like [\h__\h] tornado through a junkyard.
Uh, who would think that you could just

4118
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:05,199
Uh, who would think that you could just
 

4119
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:06,950
Uh, who would think that you could just
throw all the parts of a plane or a car

4120
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:06,960
throw all the parts of a plane or a car
 

4121
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,390
throw all the parts of a plane or a car
together and it would make a car? What

4122
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:08,400
together and it would make a car? What
 

4123
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,430
together and it would make a car? What
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with

4124
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:09,440
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with
 

4125
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,270
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with
prebiotic chemistry, dickbag? Has

4126
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:11,280
prebiotic chemistry, dickbag? Has
 

4127
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,750
prebiotic chemistry, dickbag? Has
[\h__\h] nothing to do with it. It's sets

4128
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:13,760
[\h__\h] nothing to do with it. It's sets
 

4129
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,910
[\h__\h] nothing to do with it. It's sets
of self-replicating molecules that you

4130
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:15,920
of self-replicating molecules that you
 

4131
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,310
of self-replicating molecules that you
pretend haven't been substantiated in a

4132
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:18,320
pretend haven't been substantiated in a
 

4133
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,630
pretend haven't been substantiated in a
lab, which they have been for the

4134
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:20,640
lab, which they have been for the
 

4135
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,030
lab, which they have been for the
entirety of the 21st century, 25 years

4136
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:23,040
entirety of the 21st century, 25 years
 

4137
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,390
entirety of the 21st century, 25 years
or so that we've been looking at

4138
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:24,400
or so that we've been looking at
 

4139
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,270
or so that we've been looking at
replicators, what they can do. Um, and

4140
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:27,280
replicators, what they can do. Um, and
 

4141
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,110
replicators, what they can do. Um, and
you just have nothing. You literally

4142
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:29,120
you just have nothing. You literally
 

4143
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,110
you just have nothing. You literally
cannot even acknowledge the existence of

4144
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:31,120
cannot even acknowledge the existence of
 

4145
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,110
cannot even acknowledge the existence of
the field. It's very sad.

4146
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:33,120
the field. It's very sad.
 

4147
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,510
the field. It's very sad.
>> That's exactly what you're saying if you

4148
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:35,520
>> That's exactly what you're saying if you
 

4149
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,709
>> That's exactly what you're saying if you
had all the P pieces.

4150
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:36,719
had all the P pieces.
 

4151
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:38,229
had all the P pieces.
>> These are crazy men. I want to talk to

4152
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:38,239
>> These are crazy men. I want to talk to
 

4153
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:42,709
>> These are crazy men. I want to talk to
somebody reasonable. So, John, it's just

4154
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:42,719
somebody reasonable. So, John, it's just
 

4155
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:46,070
somebody reasonable. So, John, it's just
a question of time. Don't Don't we The

4156
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:46,080
a question of time. Don't Don't we The
 

4157
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,630
a question of time. Don't Don't we The
universe is X billion years old. Even if

4158
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:48,640
universe is X billion years old. Even if
 

4159
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,470
universe is X billion years old. Even if
it did have a beginning, it's what's

4160
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:50,480
it did have a beginning, it's what's
 

4161
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:51,350
it did have a beginning, it's what's
>> 13.8

4162
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:51,360
>> 13.8
 

4163
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,709
>> 13.8
>> 13.8 billion years old. 13.8 billion

4164
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:54,719
>> 13.8 billion years old. 13.8 billion
 

4165
01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:56,229
>> 13.8 billion years old. 13.8 billion
years is a long time.

4166
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:56,239
years is a long time.
 

4167
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:59,189
years is a long time.
>> But it's not a long time when you think

4168
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:59,199
>> But it's not a long time when you think
 

4169
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:02,550
>> But it's not a long time when you think
of the improbability of this kind of

4170
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:02,560
of the improbability of this kind of
 

4171
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,350
of the improbability of this kind of
thing happening. I I think the the thing

4172
01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:05,360
thing happening. I I think the the thing
 

4173
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,630
thing happening. I I think the the thing
that really gets to me is you talk about

4174
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:08,640
that really gets to me is you talk about
 

4175
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,669
that really gets to me is you talk about
this being couple of meters long, but

4176
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:11,679
this being couple of meters long, but
 

4177
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:14,790
this being couple of meters long, but
it's information of an exceedingly

4178
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:14,800
it's information of an exceedingly
 

4179
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,390
it's information of an exceedingly
complex linguistic kind.

4180
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:18,400
complex linguistic kind.
 

4181
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,950
complex linguistic kind.
>> No, it's not linguistic. It's not

4182
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:20,960
>> No, it's not linguistic. It's not
 

4183
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,709
>> No, it's not linguistic. It's not
symbolic. It's not any of the [\h__\h] that

4184
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:22,719
symbolic. It's not any of the [\h__\h] that
 

4185
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:24,229
symbolic. It's not any of the [\h__\h] that
they're talking about. It's a sequence

4186
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:24,239
they're talking about. It's a sequence
 

4187
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:27,750
they're talking about. It's a sequence
of nucleotides. That's it. and you try

4188
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:27,760
of nucleotides. That's it. and you try
 

4189
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,990
of nucleotides. That's it. and you try
to personify it and paint all this [\h__\h]

4190
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:30,000
to personify it and paint all this [\h__\h]
 

4191
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,030
to personify it and paint all this [\h__\h]
on top of of it by talking about codes

4192
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:33,040
on top of of it by talking about codes
 

4193
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,669
on top of of it by talking about codes
and digital codes that humans make to to

4194
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:35,679
and digital codes that humans make to to
 

4195
01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:38,390
and digital codes that humans make to to
to pretend that DNA has to have been

4196
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:38,400
to pretend that DNA has to have been
 

4197
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,950
to pretend that DNA has to have been
formed by God which once again is not

4198
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:40,960
formed by God which once again is not
 

4199
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,709
formed by God which once again is not
required for the origin of life in

4200
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:42,719
required for the origin of life in
 

4201
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:45,510
required for the origin of life in
general uh at all. uh first prototell

4202
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:45,520
general uh at all. uh first prototell
 

4203
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,470
general uh at all. uh first prototell
was RNA based so yeah

4204
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:48,480
was RNA based so yeah
 

4205
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:51,590
was RNA based so yeah
>> and language does not get generated by

4206
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:51,600
>> and language does not get generated by
 

4207
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,110
>> and language does not get generated by
natural processes

4208
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:53,120
natural processes
 

4209
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,630
natural processes
>> it's language

4210
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:54,640
>> it's language
 

4211
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,270
>> it's language
>> it's language

4212
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:55,280
>> it's language
 

4213
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,630
>> it's language
>> information it's code

4214
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:56,640
>> information it's code
 

4215
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,830
>> information it's code
>> it is language information code and what

4216
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:59,840
>> it is language information code and what
 

4217
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,070
>> it is language information code and what
Miller and Yuri discovered was a couple

4218
01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:02,080
Miller and Yuri discovered was a couple
 

4219
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,149
Miller and Yuri discovered was a couple
of letters and then

4220
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:04,159
of letters and then
 

4221
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:06,229
of letters and then
>> they didn't discover letters and DNA is

4222
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:06,239
>> they didn't discover letters and DNA is
 

4223
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,790
>> they didn't discover letters and DNA is
not a language DNA is a [\h__\h] molecule

4224
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:08,800
not a language DNA is a [\h__\h] molecule
 

4225
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,350
not a language DNA is a [\h__\h] molecule
it's a goddamn molecule just because we

4226
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:11,360
it's a goddamn molecule just because we
 

4227
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,229
it's a goddamn molecule just because we
can assign letters from our alphabet to

4228
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:14,239
can assign letters from our alphabet to
 

4229
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,790
can assign letters from our alphabet to
the particular nucleases doesn't mean

4230
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:16,800
the particular nucleases doesn't mean
 

4231
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,830
the particular nucleases doesn't mean
they're literal letters, okay? They're

4232
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:19,840
they're literal letters, okay? They're
 

4233
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,470
they're literal letters, okay? They're
[\h__\h] molecules.

4234
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:22,480
[\h__\h] molecules.
 

4235
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,630
[\h__\h] molecules.
>> Once they elucidated

4236
01:20:24,630 --> 01:20:24,640
>> Once they elucidated
 

4237
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,870
>> Once they elucidated
the decoding, the DNA, they realized

4238
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:28,880
the decoding, the DNA, they realized
 

4239
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,030
the decoding, the DNA, they realized
that the letters are valless unless

4240
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:31,040
that the letters are valless unless
 

4241
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,470
that the letters are valless unless
they're in the right order, but it's

4242
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:32,480
they're in the right order, but it's
 

4243
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,390
they're in the right order, but it's
worse than that. You mentioned the

4244
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:34,400
worse than that. You mentioned the
 

4245
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,430
worse than that. You mentioned the
living cell, but you see, you need a

4246
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:37,440
living cell, but you see, you need a
 

4247
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:41,030
living cell, but you see, you need a
living cell to get DNA, and you need DNA

4248
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:41,040
living cell to get DNA, and you need DNA
 

4249
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,910
living cell to get DNA, and you need DNA
to get a living cell. So you're in the

4250
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:43,920
to get a living cell. So you're in the
 

4251
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,790
to get a living cell. So you're in the
biggest of all chicken and egg problems.

4252
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:46,800
biggest of all chicken and egg problems.
 

4253
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,390
biggest of all chicken and egg problems.
>> It's not a problem at all. Cell came

4254
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:48,400
>> It's not a problem at all. Cell came
 

4255
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,030
>> It's not a problem at all. Cell came
first. You had protocells that that

4256
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:51,040
first. You had protocells that that
 

4257
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,270
first. You had protocells that that
utilized an RNA based genome and then

4258
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:53,280
utilized an RNA based genome and then
 

4259
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,750
utilized an RNA based genome and then
eventually at some point DNA replaced it

4260
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:55,760
eventually at some point DNA replaced it
 

4261
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,750
eventually at some point DNA replaced it
because it is more stable. There's

4262
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:57,760
because it is more stable. There's
 

4263
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,830
because it is more stable. There's
evolutionary benefits to utilizing DNA

4264
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:59,840
evolutionary benefits to utilizing DNA
 

4265
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,990
evolutionary benefits to utilizing DNA
instead of RNA as information storage.

4266
01:21:01,990 --> 01:21:02,000
instead of RNA as information storage.
 

4267
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,390
instead of RNA as information storage.
I'm not going to pretend that a we know

4268
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:04,400
I'm not going to pretend that a we know
 

4269
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,070
I'm not going to pretend that a we know
everything about that transition. Me

4270
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:06,080
everything about that transition. Me
 

4271
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,669
everything about that transition. Me
certainly not. I'm there are plenty of

4272
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:07,679
certainly not. I'm there are plenty of
 

4273
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:10,070
certainly not. I'm there are plenty of
people who understand that transition

4274
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:10,080
people who understand that transition
 

4275
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,149
people who understand that transition
better. But what we can certainly say is

4276
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:12,159
better. But what we can certainly say is
 

4277
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:15,189
better. But what we can certainly say is
that is that life predates DNA. Uh

4278
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:15,199
that is that life predates DNA. Uh
 

4279
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,189
that is that life predates DNA. Uh
that's very very well understood in the

4280
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:17,199
that's very very well understood in the
 

4281
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:18,790
that's very very well understood in the
origin of life community. So quite

4282
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:18,800
origin of life community. So quite
 

4283
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,630
origin of life community. So quite
shocking that none of you can seem to

4284
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:20,640
shocking that none of you can seem to
 

4285
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,310
shocking that none of you can seem to
get this through your heads.

4286
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:22,320
get this through your heads.
 

4287
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,510
get this through your heads.
>> And the biologist will correct me or

4288
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:25,520
>> And the biologist will correct me or
 

4289
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,430
>> And the biologist will correct me or
sorry I meant life predates DNA. I don't

4290
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:27,440
sorry I meant life predates DNA. I don't
 

4291
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:28,870
sorry I meant life predates DNA. I don't
even remember what I just said. Uh it's

4292
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:28,880
even remember what I just said. Uh it's
 

4293
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,110
even remember what I just said. Uh it's
well understood that life predates DNA.

4294
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:31,120
well understood that life predates DNA.
 

4295
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:31,910
well understood that life predates DNA.
That's what it is

4296
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:31,920
That's what it is
 

4297
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,470
That's what it is
>> in systems biology. Now they're

4298
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:34,480
>> in systems biology. Now they're
 

4299
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:37,030
>> in systems biology. Now they're
concentrating on the fact that there's a

4300
01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:37,040
concentrating on the fact that there's a
 

4301
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,270
concentrating on the fact that there's a
great deal of top- down causation in

4302
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:39,280
great deal of top- down causation in
 

4303
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,669
great deal of top- down causation in
this whole field and there are levels

4304
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:41,679
this whole field and there are levels
 

4305
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,110
this whole field and there are levels
>> top down causation. What do you mean?

4306
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:43,120
>> top down causation. What do you mean?
 

4307
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,030
>> top down causation. What do you mean?
>> Well, that you need to sell first to

4308
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:45,040
>> Well, that you need to sell first to
 

4309
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,870
>> Well, that you need to sell first to
manufacture all the things that create

4310
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:46,880
manufacture all the things that create
 

4311
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,870
manufacture all the things that create
it. And you have levels of

4312
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:50,880
it. And you have levels of
 

4313
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:57,030
it. And you have levels of
complexity going from the basic DNA to

4314
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:57,040
complexity going from the basic DNA to
 

4315
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,350
complexity going from the basic DNA to
epigenetics above it, the folding of the

4316
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:59,360
epigenetics above it, the folding of the
 

4317
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,390
epigenetics above it, the folding of the
proteins, all this kind of thing. And in

4318
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:02,400
proteins, all this kind of thing. And in
 

4319
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,390
proteins, all this kind of thing. And in
Darwin's day and even later, Miller

4320
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:04,400
Darwin's day and even later, Miller
 

4321
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,750
Darwin's day and even later, Miller
Yuri, they hadn't the faintest clue of

4322
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:07,760
Yuri, they hadn't the faintest clue of
 

4323
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,070
Yuri, they hadn't the faintest clue of
the nature of what they're dealing with.

4324
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:10,080
the nature of what they're dealing with.
 

4325
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,189
the nature of what they're dealing with.
You can have

4326
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:11,199
You can have
 

4327
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:12,709
You can have
>> Yeah, they didn't know [\h__\h] and now we

4328
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:12,719
>> Yeah, they didn't know [\h__\h] and now we
 

4329
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:14,629
>> Yeah, they didn't know [\h__\h] and now we
do. Uh why are you whining about

4330
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:14,639
do. Uh why are you whining about
 

4331
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:16,310
do. Uh why are you whining about
epigenetics? What the [\h__\h] does that

4332
01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:16,320
epigenetics? What the [\h__\h] does that
 

4333
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,990
epigenetics? What the [\h__\h] does that
have to do with the origin of life? Were

4334
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:18,000
have to do with the origin of life? Were
 

4335
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,709
have to do with the origin of life? Were
there epigenetics involved in the first

4336
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:20,719
there epigenetics involved in the first
 

4337
01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:23,830
there epigenetics involved in the first
RNA based uh protocell? [\h__\h] of

4338
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:23,840
RNA based uh protocell? [\h__\h] of
 

4339
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,310
RNA based uh protocell? [\h__\h] of
course not. Uh these are all structural

4340
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:26,320
course not. Uh these are all structural
 

4341
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,870
course not. Uh these are all structural
features. These are these are aspects of

4342
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:28,880
features. These are these are aspects of
 

4343
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,270
features. These are these are aspects of
a cell that evolved over time.

4344
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:33,280
a cell that evolved over time.
 

4345
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,510
a cell that evolved over time.
Okay? It's like there's just so many

4346
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:35,520
Okay? It's like there's just so many
 

4347
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,229
Okay? It's like there's just so many
analogies you just the Burj Khalifa [\h__\h]

4348
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:38,239
analogies you just the Burj Khalifa [\h__\h]
 

4349
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:40,310
analogies you just the Burj Khalifa [\h__\h]
again with the right. You don't have to

4350
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:40,320
again with the right. You don't have to
 

4351
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,470
again with the right. You don't have to
aim for the thing that is the most

4352
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:42,480
aim for the thing that is the most
 

4353
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:44,790
aim for the thing that is the most
complex thing today at the beginning of

4354
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:44,800
complex thing today at the beginning of
 

4355
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,390
complex thing today at the beginning of
that process. It's just like it's it's

4356
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:48,400
that process. It's just like it's it's
 

4357
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,390
that process. It's just like it's it's
the same thing all every time over and

4358
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:50,400
the same thing all every time over and
 

4359
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:50,950
the same thing all every time over and
over again.

4360
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:50,960
over again.
 

4361
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,830
over again.
>> 15.8 billion years. You're going to have

4362
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:53,840
>> 15.8 billion years. You're going to have
 

4363
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,310
>> 15.8 billion years. You're going to have
138 billion years. You're going to have

4364
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:56,320
138 billion years. You're going to have
 

4365
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,990
138 billion years. You're going to have
1,380

4366
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:58,000
1,380
 

4367
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,189
1,380
billion years.

4368
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:59,199
billion years.
 

4369
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:03,350
billion years.
>> You can have 1,300,842

4370
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:03,360

 

4371
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,030

gazillion82

4372
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:05,040
gazillion82
 

4373
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,350
gazillion82
917*

4374
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:07,360
917*
 

4375
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,390
917*
10 to the negative* 10 to the bazillion

4376
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:10,400
10 to the negative* 10 to the bazillion
 

4377
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,030
10 to the negative* 10 to the bazillion
Evan. What you you can have any number

4378
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:13,040
Evan. What you you can have any number
 

4379
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,470
Evan. What you you can have any number
you want. Let's keep talking about

4380
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:14,480
you want. Let's keep talking about
 

4381
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:16,390
you want. Let's keep talking about
numbers. Let's keep listing random

4382
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:16,400
numbers. Let's keep listing random
 

4383
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,629
numbers. Let's keep listing random
numbers because that means something.

4384
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:18,639
numbers because that means something.
 

4385
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,790
numbers because that means something.
You're not coming close because it's in

4386
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:20,800
You're not coming close because it's in
 

4387
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,990
You're not coming close because it's in
the nature of the thing that you do not

4388
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:24,000
the nature of the thing that you do not
 

4389
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,629
the nature of the thing that you do not
get language like complexity through

4390
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:26,639
get language like complexity through
 

4391
01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:29,189
get language like complexity through
natural processes.

4392
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:29,199
natural processes.
 

4393
01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:31,590
natural processes.
>> So I have so much content about this

4394
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:31,600
>> So I have so much content about this
 

4395
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,510
>> So I have so much content about this
kind of thing. I mean when I debunk

4396
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:33,520
kind of thing. I mean when I debunk
 

4397
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,030
kind of thing. I mean when I debunk
Meyer and then the Discovery Institute

4398
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:35,040
Meyer and then the Discovery Institute
 

4399
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,950
Meyer and then the Discovery Institute
stuff and the James Tour stuff and it's

4400
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:36,960
stuff and the James Tour stuff and it's
 

4401
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,950
stuff and the James Tour stuff and it's
just they don't want their viewers to

4402
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:38,960
just they don't want their viewers to
 

4403
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,030
just they don't want their viewers to
understand systems chemistry. They just

4404
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:41,040
understand systems chemistry. They just
 

4405
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,030
understand systems chemistry. They just
don't want they don't want them to. So

4406
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:43,040
don't want they don't want them to. So
 

4407
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,310
don't want they don't want them to. So
there there's all the prebiotic

4408
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:44,320
there there's all the prebiotic
 

4409
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:45,830
there there's all the prebiotic
chemistry that is well understood to get

4410
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:45,840
chemistry that is well understood to get
 

4411
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,590
chemistry that is well understood to get
to biop-olymers. So getting to

4412
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:47,600
to biop-olymers. So getting to
 

4413
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,229
to biop-olymers. So getting to
polyeptides is [\h__\h] trivial. I

4414
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:50,239
polyeptides is [\h__\h] trivial. I
 

4415
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:51,910
polyeptides is [\h__\h] trivial. I
presented all of this to James right to

4416
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:51,920
presented all of this to James right to
 

4417
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,830
presented all of this to James right to
his dumb face. He just shouted nuh-uh

4418
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:53,840
his dumb face. He just shouted nuh-uh
 

4419
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,830
his dumb face. He just shouted nuh-uh
and played with chalk. Polyucleotides

4420
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:55,840
and played with chalk. Polyucleotides
 

4421
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,189
and played with chalk. Polyucleotides
also not a mystery. So uh so so RNA

4422
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:59,199
also not a mystery. So uh so so RNA
 

4423
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:02,390
also not a mystery. So uh so so RNA
getting to RNA um is not not very

4424
01:24:02,390 --> 01:24:02,400
getting to RNA um is not not very
 

4425
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,990
getting to RNA um is not not very
mysterious. We're still trying to figure

4426
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:04,000
mysterious. We're still trying to figure
 

4427
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,470
mysterious. We're still trying to figure
out exactly which the pathways were to

4428
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:06,480
out exactly which the pathways were to
 

4429
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,870
out exactly which the pathways were to
get uh to get each component of RNA. But

4430
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:08,880
get uh to get each component of RNA. But
 

4431
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,430
get uh to get each component of RNA. But
nucleotides polymerizing on on clay

4432
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:11,440
nucleotides polymerizing on on clay
 

4433
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:14,390
nucleotides polymerizing on on clay
surfaces is is not is not uh not

4434
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:14,400
surfaces is is not is not uh not
 

4435
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,110
surfaces is is not is not uh not
controversial at all. So uh if you are

4436
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:17,120
controversial at all. So uh if you are
 

4437
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,750
controversial at all. So uh if you are
granted uh RNA molecules all kinds of

4438
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:19,760
granted uh RNA molecules all kinds of
 

4439
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,830
granted uh RNA molecules all kinds of
quadrillions and quadrillions of

4440
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:21,840
quadrillions and quadrillions of
 

4441
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,629
quadrillions and quadrillions of
sequences of ribboucleotides you're you

4442
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:24,639
sequences of ribboucleotides you're you
 

4443
01:24:24,639 --> 01:24:26,470
sequences of ribboucleotides you're you
some percentage of them are going to be

4444
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:26,480
some percentage of them are going to be
 

4445
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,310
some percentage of them are going to be
functional. So you're going to get

4446
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:28,320
functional. So you're going to get
 

4447
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:29,910
functional. So you're going to get
molecule you're going to get RNA that

4448
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:29,920
molecule you're going to get RNA that
 

4449
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,110
molecule you're going to get RNA that
does cool [\h__\h] They're called

4450
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:31,120
does cool [\h__\h] They're called
 

4451
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,430
does cool [\h__\h] They're called
ribosymes. So they either participate in

4452
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:33,440
ribosymes. So they either participate in
 

4453
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:35,430
ribosymes. So they either participate in
metabolism or they participate in

4454
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:35,440
metabolism or they participate in
 

4455
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,950
metabolism or they participate in
synthesis. They're going to build

4456
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:36,960
synthesis. They're going to build
 

4457
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,350
synthesis. They're going to build
polyeptides or they can self-replicate.

4458
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:39,360
polyeptides or they can self-replicate.
 

4459
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,709
polyeptides or they can self-replicate.
So we we understand ribosymes that

4460
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:42,719
So we we understand ribosymes that
 

4461
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:44,870
So we we understand ribosymes that
self-replicate. So you get quadrillions

4462
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:44,880
self-replicate. So you get quadrillions
 

4463
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,350
self-replicate. So you get quadrillions
upon quintilions of these sequences.

4464
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:47,360
upon quintilions of these sequences.
 

4465
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,870
upon quintilions of these sequences.
Some of them are going to do some [\h__\h]

4466
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:48,880
Some of them are going to do some [\h__\h]
 

4467
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,149
Some of them are going to do some [\h__\h]
And the ones that do something

4468
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:50,159
And the ones that do something
 

4469
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:51,669
And the ones that do something
interesting and proliferate their own

4470
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:51,679
interesting and proliferate their own
 

4471
01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:54,550
interesting and proliferate their own
existence will then uh will then exist

4472
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:54,560
existence will then uh will then exist
 

4473
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,950
existence will then uh will then exist
in in higher in a higher concentration

4474
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:56,960
in in higher in a higher concentration
 

4475
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,430
in in higher in a higher concentration
and go on to do more [\h__\h] It's really

4476
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:59,440
and go on to do more [\h__\h] It's really
 

4477
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,030
and go on to do more [\h__\h] It's really
conceptually not that [\h__\h] hard to

4478
01:25:01,030 --> 01:25:01,040
conceptually not that [\h__\h] hard to
 

4479
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,390
conceptually not that [\h__\h] hard to
understand. But that's why they have to

4480
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:02,400
understand. But that's why they have to
 

4481
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,149
understand. But that's why they have to
pretend that none of it is real, right?

4482
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:04,159
pretend that none of it is real, right?
 

4483
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:06,629
pretend that none of it is real, right?
And they absolutely cannot deal with the

4484
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:06,639
And they absolutely cannot deal with the
 

4485
01:25:06,639 --> 01:25:09,030
And they absolutely cannot deal with the
fact that we are demonstrating these

4486
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:09,040
fact that we are demonstrating these
 

4487
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,030
fact that we are demonstrating these
principles. We are demonstrating these

4488
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:11,040
principles. We are demonstrating these
 

4489
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,310
principles. We are demonstrating these
principles scientifically of

4490
01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:12,320
principles scientifically of
 

4491
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,390
principles scientifically of
self-replication. They will lie out of

4492
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:14,400
self-replication. They will lie out of
 

4493
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,390
self-replication. They will lie out of
their asses about, oh, it's only

4494
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:16,400
their asses about, oh, it's only
 

4495
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,310
their asses about, oh, it's only
replicated 10%. No, it [\h__\h] didn't.

4496
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:18,320
replicated 10%. No, it [\h__\h] didn't.
 

4497
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:19,590
replicated 10%. No, it [\h__\h] didn't.
Even if you talk about the liation

4498
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:19,600
Even if you talk about the liation
 

4499
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,430
Even if you talk about the liation
mechanism, that doesn't make any sense.

4500
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:21,440
mechanism, that doesn't make any sense.
 

4501
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:22,470
mechanism, that doesn't make any sense.
But then they're doing it with

4502
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:22,480
But then they're doing it with
 

4503
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,189
But then they're doing it with
polymerase activity. Um, it's it's, you

4504
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:25,199
polymerase activity. Um, it's it's, you
 

4505
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,189
polymerase activity. Um, it's it's, you
know, it's an it's an ongoing field. But

4506
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:27,199
know, it's an it's an ongoing field. But
 

4507
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:29,590
know, it's an it's an ongoing field. But
the the idea of of of uh of

4508
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:29,600
the the idea of of of uh of
 

4509
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,430
the the idea of of of uh of
self-replicating uh RNA and in autoc

4510
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:33,440
self-replicating uh RNA and in autoc
 

4511
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:36,149
self-replicating uh RNA and in autoc
catalytic sets where there's metabolism

4512
01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:36,159
catalytic sets where there's metabolism
 

4513
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:38,390
catalytic sets where there's metabolism
happening and so forth, it's not it's

4514
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:38,400
happening and so forth, it's not it's
 

4515
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,950
happening and so forth, it's not it's
just you you you're just ignoring. You

4516
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:40,960
just you you you're just ignoring. You
 

4517
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,590
just you you you're just ignoring. You
have to brainwash your viewers into

4518
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:43,600
have to brainwash your viewers into
 

4519
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,590
have to brainwash your viewers into
ignoring the the existence of this

4520
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:45,600
ignoring the the existence of this
 

4521
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,430
ignoring the the existence of this
entire field of science. That's all it

4522
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:47,440
entire field of science. That's all it
 

4523
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:49,430
entire field of science. That's all it
is. You have these self-replicating sets

4524
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:49,440
is. You have these self-replicating sets
 

4525
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,350
is. You have these self-replicating sets
of molecules until you get a protoell

4526
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:51,360
of molecules until you get a protoell
 

4527
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,270
of molecules until you get a protoell
and then from there the cells are

4528
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:53,280
and then from there the cells are
 

4529
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,229
and then from there the cells are
evolving by natural selection. And this

4530
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:56,239
evolving by natural selection. And this
 

4531
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:57,750
evolving by natural selection. And this
is where all of these additional

4532
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:57,760
is where all of these additional
 

4533
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:02,550
is where all of these additional
parameters uh then arise. So life first

4534
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:02,560
parameters uh then arise. So life first
 

4535
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:03,910
parameters uh then arise. So life first
then all of this other [\h__\h] you're

4536
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:03,920
then all of this other [\h__\h] you're
 

4537
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,990
then all of this other [\h__\h] you're
talking about [\h__\h] epigenetics. Give

4538
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:06,000
talking about [\h__\h] epigenetics. Give
 

4539
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,669
talking about [\h__\h] epigenetics. Give
me a [\h__\h] break. You want to talk

4540
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:07,679
me a [\h__\h] break. You want to talk
 

4541
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:09,669
me a [\h__\h] break. You want to talk
about epigenetics in the context of the

4542
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:09,679
about epigenetics in the context of the
 

4543
01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:11,510
about epigenetics in the context of the
origin of life? How intellectually

4544
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:11,520
origin of life? How intellectually
 

4545
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,669
origin of life? How intellectually
dishonest can you be? It's insane.

4546
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:13,679
dishonest can you be? It's insane.
 

4547
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:15,350
dishonest can you be? It's insane.
>> So we're stuck

4548
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:15,360
>> So we're stuck
 

4549
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,110
>> So we're stuck
>> if there's a code point in a different

4550
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:17,120
>> if there's a code point in a different
 

4551
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,149
>> if there's a code point in a different
direction.

4552
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:18,159
direction.
 

4553
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:20,709
direction.
>> Exactly. Because when whenever we see

4554
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:20,719
>> Exactly. Because when whenever we see
 

4555
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:22,950
>> Exactly. Because when whenever we see
information and we trace it back to its

4556
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:22,960
information and we trace it back to its
 

4557
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,750
information and we trace it back to its
source, we always come to a mind. Bill

4558
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:25,760
source, we always come to a mind. Bill
 

4559
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,590
source, we always come to a mind. Bill
Gates has said DNA is like a software

4560
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:27,600
Gates has said DNA is like a software
 

4561
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,350
Gates has said DNA is like a software
program. Richard Dawkins has

4562
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:29,360
program. Richard Dawkins has
 

4563
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,350
program. Richard Dawkins has
acknowledged that it's machine code.

4564
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:31,360
acknowledged that it's machine code.
 

4565
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,070
acknowledged that it's machine code.
Well, whenever when we see Bill Gates,

4566
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:34,080
Well, whenever when we see Bill Gates,
 

4567
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,310
Well, whenever when we see Bill Gates,
who knows [\h__\h] all about biology, said a

4568
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:36,320
who knows [\h__\h] all about biology, said a
 

4569
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,270
who knows [\h__\h] all about biology, said a
thing, uh Dawkins, I'll misquote him and

4570
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:39,280
thing, uh Dawkins, I'll misquote him and
 

4571
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,270
thing, uh Dawkins, I'll misquote him and
say and pretend and because he's the

4572
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:41,280
say and pretend and because he's the
 

4573
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,110
say and pretend and because he's the
prophet that you want us to take down

4574
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:43,120
prophet that you want us to take down
 

4575
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,550
prophet that you want us to take down
right now. Um, no, it's not like a

4576
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:46,560
right now. Um, no, it's not like a
 

4577
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,870
right now. Um, no, it's not like a
[\h__\h] computer code. It's not like

4578
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:48,880
[\h__\h] computer code. It's not like
 

4579
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,189
[\h__\h] computer code. It's not like
that at all. It's a sequence of bases

4580
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:51,199
that at all. It's a sequence of bases
 

4581
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,590
that at all. It's a sequence of bases
that corresp that that that undergo base

4582
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:53,600
that corresp that that that undergo base
 

4583
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,750
that corresp that that that undergo base
pairing by rules of chemistry. That's

4584
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:55,760
pairing by rules of chemistry. That's
 

4585
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,790
pairing by rules of chemistry. That's
what it is. A a software program, we

4586
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:58,800
what it is. A a software program, we
 

4587
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:59,910
what it is. A a software program, we
always know that it came from a

4588
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:59,920
always know that it came from a
 

4589
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:01,510
always know that it came from a
programmer. In fact, whenever we see

4590
01:27:01,510 --> 01:27:01,520
programmer. In fact, whenever we see
 

4591
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,310
programmer. In fact, whenever we see
information, whether it's in software or

4592
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:04,320
information, whether it's in software or
 

4593
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,990
information, whether it's in software or
a hieroglyphic inscription or a

4594
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:06,000
a hieroglyphic inscription or a
 

4595
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,310
a hieroglyphic inscription or a
paragraph in a book or information

4596
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:08,320
paragraph in a book or information
 

4597
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,629
paragraph in a book or information
embedded in a radio signal, you trace it

4598
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:10,639
embedded in a radio signal, you trace it
 

4599
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:12,149
embedded in a radio signal, you trace it
back to its ultimate source. You always

4600
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:12,159
back to its ultimate source. You always
 

4601
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:13,990
back to its ultimate source. You always
come to a mind, not a material process.

4602
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:14,000
come to a mind, not a material process.
 

4603
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,629
come to a mind, not a material process.
So Jim has brilliantly shown how

4604
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:16,639
So Jim has brilliantly shown how
 

4605
01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:18,550
So Jim has brilliantly shown how
inadequate these undirected chemical

4606
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:18,560
inadequate these undirected chemical
 

4607
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,950
inadequate these undirected chemical
evolutionary theories are. The flip side

4608
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:20,960
evolutionary theories are. The flip side
 

4609
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,709
evolutionary theories are. The flip side
of that is that there's a positive case

4610
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:22,719
of that is that there's a positive case
 

4611
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:24,950
of that is that there's a positive case
for a designing mind having played a

4612
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:24,960
for a designing mind having played a
 

4613
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,470
for a designing mind having played a
decisive role in the origin of life.

4614
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:26,480
decisive role in the origin of life.
 

4615
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:28,470
decisive role in the origin of life.
Because as John has said, information is

4616
01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:28,480
Because as John has said, information is
 

4617
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:29,830
Because as John has said, information is
a mind product.

4618
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:29,840
a mind product.
 

4619
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,390
a mind product.
>> But science, the natural sciences, as

4620
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:32,400
>> But science, the natural sciences, as
 

4621
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,030
>> But science, the natural sciences, as
Jim has said, can't give us that.

4622
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:35,040
Jim has said, can't give us that.
 

4623
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:35,990
Jim has said, can't give us that.
So that's what

4624
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:36,000
So that's what
 

4625
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,550
So that's what
>> So I mean I sit here listening to the

4626
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:38,560
>> So I mean I sit here listening to the
 

4627
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,590
>> So I mean I sit here listening to the
three of you and

4628
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:41,600
three of you and
 

4629
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,510
three of you and
my little mind is struggling with all of

4630
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:43,520
my little mind is struggling with all of
 

4631
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,430
my little mind is struggling with all of
this because the answer I mean I love I

4632
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:47,440
this because the answer I mean I love I
 

4633
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:49,830
this because the answer I mean I love I
love when these [\h__\h] interviewers

4634
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:49,840
love when these [\h__\h] interviewers
 

4635
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,550
love when these [\h__\h] interviewers
like play the proxy of the of the

4636
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:52,560
like play the proxy of the of the
 

4637
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,390
like play the proxy of the of the
science illiterate Christian viewer.

4638
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:54,400
science illiterate Christian viewer.
 

4639
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,629
science illiterate Christian viewer.
They're like you guys I mean you guys

4640
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:56,639
They're like you guys I mean you guys
 

4641
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,950
They're like you guys I mean you guys
are scientists but like what am I to do?

4642
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:58,960
are scientists but like what am I to do?
 

4643
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,470
are scientists but like what am I to do?
I don't understand anything that you're

4644
01:28:00,470 --> 01:28:00,480
I don't understand anything that you're
 

4645
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,310
I don't understand anything that you're
talking about. G Willilickers, G Whiz

4646
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:02,320
talking about. G Willilickers, G Whiz
 

4647
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,629
talking about. G Willilickers, G Whiz
Willilickers. Like, it's just so clearly

4648
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:04,639
Willilickers. Like, it's just so clearly
 

4649
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:07,270
Willilickers. Like, it's just so clearly
a standin for for the for the [\h__\h]

4650
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:07,280
a standin for for the for the [\h__\h]
 

4651
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,830
a standin for for the for the [\h__\h]
viewer to then kind of like think for

4652
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:09,840
viewer to then kind of like think for
 

4653
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,390
viewer to then kind of like think for
them and go, "Well, but I guess if I

4654
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:12,400
them and go, "Well, but I guess if I
 

4655
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,990
them and go, "Well, but I guess if I
guess if what you're saying is that

4656
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:14,000
guess if what you're saying is that
 

4657
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,750
guess if what you're saying is that
science doesn't have an answer, does

4658
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:15,760
science doesn't have an answer, does
 

4659
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,709
science doesn't have an answer, does
that mean God? Does that mean the

4660
01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:18,719
that mean God? Does that mean the
 

4661
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:21,590
that mean God? Does that mean the
Christian God? Yes, I think it does. So,

4662
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:21,600
Christian God? Yes, I think it does. So,
 

4663
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,310
Christian God? Yes, I think it does. So,
I have an intellectual basis for all of

4664
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:24,320
I have an intellectual basis for all of
 

4665
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,229
I have an intellectual basis for all of
my science denial and all the ridiculous

4666
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:26,239
my science denial and all the ridiculous
 

4667
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:27,430
my science denial and all the ridiculous
[\h__\h] that I've been brainwashed into

4668
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:27,440
[\h__\h] that I've been brainwashed into
 

4669
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:29,669
[\h__\h] that I've been brainwashed into
believing. Thank you. Thank you, Hoover

4670
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:29,679
believing. Thank you. Thank you, Hoover
 

4671
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,149
believing. Thank you. Thank you, Hoover
Institution, for for helping me to

4672
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:32,159
Institution, for for helping me to
 

4673
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:33,910
Institution, for for helping me to
arrive at the conclusion that I am

4674
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:33,920
arrive at the conclusion that I am
 

4675
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,950
arrive at the conclusion that I am
intellectually justified in all in in my

4676
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:36,960
intellectually justified in all in in my
 

4677
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,110
intellectually justified in all in in my
regressive beliefs and science denial.

4678
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:39,120
regressive beliefs and science denial.
 

4679
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,709
regressive beliefs and science denial.
Thank you. It's almost like this is

4680
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:40,719
Thank you. It's almost like this is
 

4681
01:28:40,719 --> 01:28:42,470
Thank you. It's almost like this is
exactly the [\h__\h] point of you

4682
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:42,480
exactly the [\h__\h] point of you
 

4683
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,629
exactly the [\h__\h] point of you
existing. God damn it. It sounds like a

4684
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:46,639
existing. God damn it. It sounds like a
 

4685
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:48,149
existing. God damn it. It sounds like a
loophole now, an intellectual loophole,

4686
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:48,159
loophole now, an intellectual loophole,
 

4687
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:49,669
loophole now, an intellectual loophole,
but the answer was all, oh yeah, yeah,

4688
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:49,679
but the answer was all, oh yeah, yeah,
 

4689
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:52,149
but the answer was all, oh yeah, yeah,
but okay, more just more time. All we

4690
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:52,159
but okay, more just more time. All we
 

4691
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:53,669
but okay, more just more time. All we
need is more time for these these

4692
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:53,679
need is more time for these these
 

4693
01:28:53,679 --> 01:28:57,590
need is more time for these these
processes for random accident to happen.

4694
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:57,600
processes for random accident to happen.
 

4695
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,189
processes for random accident to happen.
But of course that's not chemically

4696
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:59,199
But of course that's not chemically
 

4697
01:28:59,199 --> 01:28:59,990
But of course that's not chemically
plausible.

4698
01:28:59,990 --> 01:29:00,000
plausible.
 

4699
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,629
plausible.
>> Time time is the enemy. Actually time is

4700
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:02,639
>> Time time is the enemy. Actually time is
 

4701
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:04,229
>> Time time is the enemy. Actually time is
the enemy. As soon as you have these

4702
01:29:04,229 --> 01:29:04,239
the enemy. As soon as you have these
 

4703
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:04,790
the enemy. As soon as you have these
molecules

4704
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:04,800
molecules
 

4705
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,070
molecules
>> when you have the molecules they break

4706
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:06,080
>> when you have the molecules they break
 

4707
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,910
>> when you have the molecules they break
down. I wrote a fake paper about how

4708
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:07,920
down. I wrote a fake paper about how
 

4709
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,669
down. I wrote a fake paper about how
proteins are supposed to fall apart so

4710
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:09,679
proteins are supposed to fall apart so
 

4711
01:29:09,679 --> 01:29:11,590
proteins are supposed to fall apart so
fast even though no they [\h__\h] don't.

4712
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:11,600
fast even though no they [\h__\h] don't.
 

4713
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,270
fast even though no they [\h__\h] don't.
But don't watch Dave's video debunking

4714
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:13,280
But don't watch Dave's video debunking
 

4715
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,910
But don't watch Dave's video debunking
the [\h__\h] out of my paper or I mock him

4716
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:15,920
the [\h__\h] out of my paper or I mock him
 

4717
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,030
the [\h__\h] out of my paper or I mock him
relentlessly for [\h__\h] I mean just

4718
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:19,040
relentlessly for [\h__\h] I mean just
 

4719
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,870
relentlessly for [\h__\h] I mean just
watch that video. But it just it's an

4720
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:20,880
watch that video. But it just it's an
 

4721
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,709
watch that video. But it just it's an
entire video on exactly this thing that

4722
01:29:22,709 --> 01:29:22,719
entire video on exactly this thing that
 

4723
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:24,229
entire video on exactly this thing that
he's trying to say.

4724
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:24,239
he's trying to say.
 

4725
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:26,470
he's trying to say.
they start to degrade. Just just like if

4726
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:26,480
they start to degrade. Just just like if
 

4727
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,470
they start to degrade. Just just like if
you if you if you have something you

4728
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:28,480
you if you if you have something you
 

4729
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,629
you if you if you have something you
that's valuable to you and you put it

4730
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:30,639
that's valuable to you and you put it
 

4731
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:33,270
that's valuable to you and you put it
outside and it it starts to rust. These

4732
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:33,280
outside and it it starts to rust. These
 

4733
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:33,910
outside and it it starts to rust. These
molecules

4734
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:33,920
molecules
 

4735
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,910
molecules
>> rust isn't decomposition, you [\h__\h]

4736
01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:35,920
>> rust isn't decomposition, you [\h__\h]
 

4737
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,629
>> rust isn't decomposition, you [\h__\h]
idiot. Rust is oxygen atoms adding to a

4738
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:38,639
idiot. Rust is oxygen atoms adding to a
 

4739
01:29:38,639 --> 01:29:40,790
idiot. Rust is oxygen atoms adding to a
metal or coordinating to a metal. What

4740
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:40,800
metal or coordinating to a metal. What
 

4741
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,750
metal or coordinating to a metal. What
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with

4742
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:41,760
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with
 

4743
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,590
the [\h__\h] does that have to do with
decomposition? And no, they don't do

4744
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:43,600
decomposition? And no, they don't do
 

4745
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,750
decomposition? And no, they don't do
that. No, they don't do I I I could I'm

4746
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:45,760
that. No, they don't do I I I could I'm
 

4747
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,110
that. No, they don't do I I I could I'm
not going to summarize that video, but

4748
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:47,120
not going to summarize that video, but
 

4749
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,629
not going to summarize that video, but
he basically just ignores everything

4750
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:48,639
he basically just ignores everything
 

4751
01:29:48,639 --> 01:29:51,910
he basically just ignores everything
about uh it's just just go watch that

4752
01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:51,920
about uh it's just just go watch that
 

4753
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,229
about uh it's just just go watch that
video. his fake paper about proteins

4754
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:54,239
video. his fake paper about proteins
 

4755
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:55,990
video. his fake paper about proteins
falling apart. It's [\h__\h] hilarious.

4756
01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:56,000
falling apart. It's [\h__\h] hilarious.
 

4757
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,950
falling apart. It's [\h__\h] hilarious.
>> If you just had one molecule of RNA, one

4758
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:58,960
>> If you just had one molecule of RNA, one
 

4759
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,750
>> If you just had one molecule of RNA, one
molecule, it only lasts hours, hours.

4760
01:30:01,750 --> 01:30:01,760
molecule, it only lasts hours, hours.
 

4761
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:02,149
molecule, it only lasts hours, hours.
And

4762
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:02,159
And
 

4763
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:03,990
And
>> it only lasts hours because I say so

4764
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:04,000
>> it only lasts hours because I say so
 

4765
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,669
>> it only lasts hours because I say so
because I did some [\h__\h] math where I

4766
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:05,679
because I did some [\h__\h] math where I
 

4767
01:30:05,679 --> 01:30:07,910
because I did some [\h__\h] math where I
took the degradation of one monomer and

4768
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:07,920
took the degradation of one monomer and
 

4769
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,669
took the degradation of one monomer and
then just multiplied it by the number of

4770
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:09,679
then just multiplied it by the number of
 

4771
01:30:09,679 --> 01:30:11,510
then just multiplied it by the number of
residues in the thing. Uh and then I

4772
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:11,520
residues in the thing. Uh and then I
 

4773
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,830
residues in the thing. Uh and then I
completely disregard uh folding that

4774
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:13,840
completely disregard uh folding that
 

4775
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,950
completely disregard uh folding that
that stabilizes the molecule or it's or

4776
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:16,960
that stabilizes the molecule or it's or
 

4777
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,790
that stabilizes the molecule or it's or
annealing to any kind of clay surface

4778
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:18,800
annealing to any kind of clay surface
 

4779
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,390
annealing to any kind of clay surface
where the where the polymerization is

4780
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:20,400
where the where the polymerization is
 

4781
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,830
where the where the polymerization is
happening. that also stabilizes

4782
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:21,840
happening. that also stabilizes
 

4783
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,669
happening. that also stabilizes
molecule. So, basically, I just ignored

4784
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:23,679
molecule. So, basically, I just ignored
 

4785
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:25,350
molecule. So, basically, I just ignored
absolutely [\h__\h] everything and did

4786
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:25,360
absolutely [\h__\h] everything and did
 

4787
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,590
absolutely [\h__\h] everything and did
[\h__\h] math that uh that is supposed to

4788
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:27,600
[\h__\h] math that uh that is supposed to
 

4789
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,990
[\h__\h] math that uh that is supposed to
support my conclusion that molecules,

4790
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:30,000
support my conclusion that molecules,
 

4791
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,350
support my conclusion that molecules,
they just fall apart all the time.

4792
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:31,360
they just fall apart all the time.
 

4793
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,590
they just fall apart all the time.
Unless you have God, God has to be in

4794
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:33,600
Unless you have God, God has to be in
 

4795
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,510
Unless you have God, God has to be in
the water going. Okay. All right. Next

4796
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:35,520
the water going. Okay. All right. Next
 

4797
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,750
the water going. Okay. All right. Next
one. Okay. Next one. Okay. Everybody

4798
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:37,760
one. Okay. Next one. Okay. Everybody
 

4799
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,510
one. Okay. Next one. Okay. Everybody
stay together. I'm using my magic God

4800
01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:39,520
stay together. I'm using my magic God
 

4801
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,430
stay together. I'm using my magic God
mind powers to keep it together against

4802
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:41,440
mind powers to keep it together against
 

4803
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:44,229
mind powers to keep it together against
the laws of chemistry. Yay. I got an RNA

4804
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:44,239
the laws of chemistry. Yay. I got an RNA
 

4805
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:45,910
the laws of chemistry. Yay. I got an RNA
because I'm God. Because I can do it.

4806
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:45,920
because I'm God. Because I can do it.
 

4807
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,149
because I'm God. Because I can do it.
It's so [\h__\h] stupid. It's degraded.

4808
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:48,159
It's so [\h__\h] stupid. It's degraded.
 

4809
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:50,229
It's so [\h__\h] stupid. It's degraded.
So you say well if you waited billions

4810
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:50,239
So you say well if you waited billions
 

4811
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,709
So you say well if you waited billions
of years it's degraded proteins will

4812
01:30:52,709 --> 01:30:52,719
of years it's degraded proteins will
 

4813
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:55,830
of years it's degraded proteins will
last on the order of days that's it. So

4814
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:55,840
last on the order of days that's it. So
 

4815
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,110
last on the order of days that's it. So
so this element of time is actually the

4816
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:59,120
so this element of time is actually the
 

4817
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,950
so this element of time is actually the
enemy and not the savior of this

4818
01:31:00,950 --> 01:31:00,960
enemy and not the savior of this
 

4819
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:01,510
enemy and not the savior of this
process.

4820
01:31:01,510 --> 01:31:01,520
process.
 

4821
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,110
process.
>> Okay. So the idea that the universe came

4822
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:05,120
>> Okay. So the idea that the universe came
 

4823
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,510
>> Okay. So the idea that the universe came
about

4824
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:07,520
about
 

4825
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,910
about
by means of totally undirected

4826
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:09,920
by means of totally undirected
 

4827
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,550
by means of totally undirected
impersonal forces. All three of you

4828
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:12,560
impersonal forces. All three of you
 

4829
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:13,669
impersonal forces. All three of you
would consider that

4830
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:13,679
would consider that
 

4831
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:15,590
would consider that
>> implausible preposterous

4832
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:15,600
>> implausible preposterous
 

4833
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,110
>> implausible preposterous
>> implausible in the extreme.

4834
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:17,120
>> implausible in the extreme.
 

4835
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,750
>> implausible in the extreme.
>> All right. And so, okay, so now let me

4836
01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:19,760
>> All right. And so, okay, so now let me
 

4837
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,910
>> All right. And so, okay, so now let me
ask you this.

4838
01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:21,920
ask you this.
 

4839
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,430
ask you this.
Why do all three of you get roughed up

4840
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:23,440
Why do all three of you get roughed up
 

4841
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:25,350
Why do all three of you get roughed up
by your fellow by your colleagues? Here,

4842
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:25,360
by your fellow by your colleagues? Here,
 

4843
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,590
by your fellow by your colleagues? Here,
here I've got Jim Tour. I looked on

4844
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:27,600
here I've got Jim Tour. I looked on
 

4845
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,830
here I've got Jim Tour. I looked on
YouTube. You got in a debate with some

4846
01:31:29,830 --> 01:31:29,840
YouTube. You got in a debate with some
 

4847
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,709
YouTube. You got in a debate with some
YouTuber called Dave Fina, who considers

4848
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:32,719
YouTuber called Dave Fina, who considers
 

4849
01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:35,830
YouTuber called Dave Fina, who considers
himself a science influencer, explainer,

4850
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:35,840
himself a science influencer, explainer,
 

4851
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,030
himself a science influencer, explainer,
>> which is what you need to have.

4852
01:31:37,030 --> 01:31:37,040
>> which is what you need to have.
 

4853
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,390
>> which is what you need to have.
>> Can you do me a favor here? I want you

4854
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:38,400
>> Can you do me a favor here? I want you
 

4855
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,750
>> Can you do me a favor here? I want you
to read the the title of that paper

4856
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:39,760
to read the the title of that paper
 

4857
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,910
to read the the title of that paper
there. It's by your buddy Jack Shastak.

4858
01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:41,920
there. It's by your buddy Jack Shastak.
 

4859
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,430
there. It's by your buddy Jack Shastak.
He's done some research on this.

4860
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:43,440
He's done some research on this.
 

4861
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:46,070
He's done some research on this.
>> Yeah, I know. And Jack Sust even says he

4862
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:46,080
>> Yeah, I know. And Jack Sust even says he
 

4863
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:47,830
>> Yeah, I know. And Jack Sust even says he
cannot get it. And here's what he said

4864
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:47,840
cannot get it. And here's what he said
 

4865
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,310
cannot get it. And here's what he said
in in a recent YouTube. He claimed your

4866
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:50,320
in in a recent YouTube. He claimed your
 

4867
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,229
in in a recent YouTube. He claimed your
work quote only serves to keep

4868
01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:52,239
work quote only serves to keep
 

4869
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,470
work quote only serves to keep
indoctrinated buffoons in their blind

4870
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:54,480
indoctrinated buffoons in their blind
 

4871
01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:56,390
indoctrinated buffoons in their blind
faith. Close quote. That's not a very

4872
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:56,400
faith. Close quote. That's not a very
 

4873
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,990
faith. Close quote. That's not a very
nice thing to say.

4874
01:31:57,990 --> 01:31:58,000
nice thing to say.
 

4875
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,149
nice thing to say.
>> Oh, did my did my facts hurt your

4876
01:32:00,149 --> 01:32:00,159
>> Oh, did my did my facts hurt your
 

4877
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:03,750
>> Oh, did my did my facts hurt your
feelings, [\h__\h] Um, wow. He just I

4878
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:03,760
feelings, [\h__\h] Um, wow. He just I
 

4879
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,189
feelings, [\h__\h] Um, wow. He just I
don't know if to knew that he was going

4880
01:32:05,189 --> 01:32:05,199
don't know if to knew that he was going
 

4881
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,910
don't know if to knew that he was going
to bring me up. I don't know. He uh I

4882
01:32:07,910 --> 01:32:07,920
to bring me up. I don't know. He uh I
 

4883
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,669
to bring me up. I don't know. He uh I
mean, how how can't you, I suppose,

4884
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:09,679
mean, how how can't you, I suppose,
 

4885
01:32:09,679 --> 01:32:12,390
mean, how how can't you, I suppose,
because I uh have done uh quite a lot of

4886
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:12,400
because I uh have done uh quite a lot of
 

4887
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,030
because I uh have done uh quite a lot of
work here in uh in humiliating him. So

4888
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:15,040
work here in uh in humiliating him. So
 

4889
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,430
work here in uh in humiliating him. So
it usually they just pretend I don't

4890
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:17,440
it usually they just pretend I don't
 

4891
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:19,669
it usually they just pretend I don't
exist, but uh in this case it seems like

4892
01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:19,679
exist, but uh in this case it seems like
 

4893
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:21,270
exist, but uh in this case it seems like
they want to talk about it. Um so that's

4894
01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:21,280
they want to talk about it. Um so that's
 

4895
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,669
they want to talk about it. Um so that's
exactly what it is. Um they showed a

4896
01:32:23,669 --> 01:32:23,679
exactly what it is. Um they showed a
 

4897
01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:25,350
exactly what it is. Um they showed a
clip of me humiliating him during the

4898
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:25,360
clip of me humiliating him during the
 

4899
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,189
clip of me humiliating him during the
debate, one of the many times that I was

4900
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:27,199
debate, one of the many times that I was
 

4901
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:29,430
debate, one of the many times that I was
using uh actual research to disprove the

4902
01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:29,440
using uh actual research to disprove the
 

4903
01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:31,189
using uh actual research to disprove the
dumb [\h__\h] he was saying. Uh it was about

4904
01:32:31,189 --> 01:32:31,199
dumb [\h__\h] he was saying. Uh it was about
 

4905
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:33,189
dumb [\h__\h] he was saying. Uh it was about
Shastack. He was whining about the the

4906
01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:33,199
Shastack. He was whining about the the
 

4907
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:35,350
Shastack. He was whining about the the
about the linkage and I showed him that

4908
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:35,360
about the linkage and I showed him that
 

4909
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,870
about the linkage and I showed him that
the that uh that functionality tolerates

4910
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:38,880
the that uh that functionality tolerates
 

4911
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,790
the that uh that functionality tolerates
variety of linkage and then and then

4912
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:40,800
variety of linkage and then and then
 

4913
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,709
variety of linkage and then and then
they they do the oh Dave just reads

4914
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:42,719
they they do the oh Dave just reads
 

4915
01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:44,470
they they do the oh Dave just reads
titles of paper. No, I [\h__\h] showed

4916
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:44,480
titles of paper. No, I [\h__\h] showed
 

4917
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:46,229
titles of paper. No, I [\h__\h] showed
what's in the paper. You're you're the

4918
01:32:46,229 --> 01:32:46,239
what's in the paper. You're you're the
 

4919
01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:47,830
what's in the paper. You're you're the
[\h__\h] trying to pretend that the

4920
01:32:47,830 --> 01:32:47,840
[\h__\h] trying to pretend that the
 

4921
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,030
[\h__\h] trying to pretend that the
title of the paper contradicts

4922
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:51,040
title of the paper contradicts
 

4923
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,350
title of the paper contradicts
diametrically the contents of the paper.

4924
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:53,360
diametrically the contents of the paper.
 

4925
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,030
diametrically the contents of the paper.
That the paper doesn't do what the title

4926
01:32:55,030 --> 01:32:55,040
That the paper doesn't do what the title
 

4927
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,669
That the paper doesn't do what the title
says the paper is doing. Um it's just a

4928
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:57,679
says the paper is doing. Um it's just a
 

4929
01:32:57,679 --> 01:32:59,910
says the paper is doing. Um it's just a
pathetic defense mechanism to ignore

4930
01:32:59,910 --> 01:32:59,920
pathetic defense mechanism to ignore
 

4931
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,629
pathetic defense mechanism to ignore
research that uh that that ruins his

4932
01:33:02,629 --> 01:33:02,639
research that uh that that ruins his
 

4933
01:33:02,639 --> 01:33:05,830
research that uh that that ruins his
ruins his [\h__\h] script. Um yes, that

4934
01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:05,840
ruins his [\h__\h] script. Um yes, that
 

4935
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,830
ruins his [\h__\h] script. Um yes, that
is what tour is for. That is what tour

4936
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:07,840
is what tour is for. That is what tour
 

4937
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,070
is what tour is for. That is what tour
is for is to keep the ind indoctrinated

4938
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:10,080
is for is to keep the ind indoctrinated
 

4939
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,550
is for is to keep the ind indoctrinated
buffoons happy with their with their

4940
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:12,560
buffoons happy with their with their
 

4941
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,709
buffoons happy with their with their
science denial and their uh their their

4942
01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:14,719
science denial and their uh their their
 

4943
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:17,669
science denial and their uh their their
their cowardice and in their inability

4944
01:33:17,669 --> 01:33:17,679
their cowardice and in their inability
 

4945
01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:19,510
their cowardice and in their inability
to look at what the [\h__\h] science is

4946
01:33:19,510 --> 01:33:19,520
to look at what the [\h__\h] science is
 

4947
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,550
to look at what the [\h__\h] science is
actually doing. So James, any thoughts?

4948
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:22,560
actually doing. So James, any thoughts?
 

4949
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,390
actually doing. So James, any thoughts?
>> Which brings us to Steve. Here's from

4950
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:24,400
>> Which brings us to Steve. Here's from
 

4951
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,669
>> Which brings us to Steve. Here's from
Charles Marshall's review.

4952
01:33:25,669 --> 01:33:25,679
Charles Marshall's review.
 

4953
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:27,910
Charles Marshall's review.
>> Wait, you're not going to get a

4954
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:27,920
>> Wait, you're not going to get a
 

4955
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,750
>> Wait, you're not going to get a
counterpoint from James? We're not going

4956
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:29,760
counterpoint from James? We're not going
 

4957
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,350
counterpoint from James? We're not going
to get something here. Uh come on, man.

4958
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:33,360
to get something here. Uh come on, man.
 

4959
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,350
to get something here. Uh come on, man.
That was You're just named dropping me

4960
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:35,360
That was You're just named dropping me
 

4961
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,750
That was You're just named dropping me
to go, "Oh, look how mean Dave is."

4962
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:37,760
to go, "Oh, look how mean Dave is."
 

4963
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,070
to go, "Oh, look how mean Dave is."
Seriously.

4964
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:40,080
Seriously.
 

4965
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,870
Seriously.
Godamn. That's That's [\h__\h] cowardly.

4966
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:42,880
Godamn. That's That's [\h__\h] cowardly.
 

4967
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,189
Godamn. That's That's [\h__\h] cowardly.
That's really crazy. Um maybe they did

4968
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:45,199
That's really crazy. Um maybe they did
 

4969
01:33:45,199 --> 01:33:46,709
That's really crazy. Um maybe they did
tell James that they were going to drop

4970
01:33:46,709 --> 01:33:46,719
tell James that they were going to drop
 

4971
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:48,550
tell James that they were going to drop
a quote and and Meer was like, "Look,

4972
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:48,560
a quote and and Meer was like, "Look,
 

4973
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,390
a quote and and Meer was like, "Look,
they're going to bring Dave up. Just

4974
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:50,400
they're going to bring Dave up. Just
 

4975
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,910
they're going to bring Dave up. Just
[\h__\h] don't blow up. Just just don't

4976
01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:53,920
[\h__\h] don't blow up. Just just don't
 

4977
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,510
[\h__\h] don't blow up. Just just don't
say anything. He's going to move on

4978
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:55,520
say anything. He's going to move on
 

4979
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,270
say anything. He's going to move on
right away." I told him to move on. So,

4980
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:57,280
right away." I told him to move on. So,
 

4981
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,669
right away." I told him to move on. So,
we're not going to talk about Dave. Just

4982
01:33:59,669 --> 01:33:59,679
we're not going to talk about Dave. Just
 

4983
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:02,229
we're not going to talk about Dave. Just
Okay. So just be be calm

4984
01:34:02,229 --> 01:34:02,239
Okay. So just be be calm
 

4985
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:04,709
Okay. So just be be calm
>> of your book Darwin's Doubt. This

4986
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:04,719
>> of your book Darwin's Doubt. This
 

4987
01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:06,390
>> of your book Darwin's Doubt. This
precedes your book The Return of the God

4988
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:06,400
precedes your book The Return of the God
 

4989
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,709
precedes your book The Return of the God
Hypothesis. And by the way, this review

4990
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:08,719
Hypothesis. And by the way, this review
 

4991
01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:11,110
Hypothesis. And by the way, this review
appears in Science, which has got to be

4992
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:11,120
appears in Science, which has got to be
 

4993
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,189
appears in Science, which has got to be
one of the two or three most esteemed

4994
01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:13,199
one of the two or three most esteemed
 

4995
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:15,830
one of the two or three most esteemed
scientific journals. Quote, "The book's

4996
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:15,840
scientific journals. Quote, "The book's
 

4997
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,629
scientific journals. Quote, "The book's
subtext is to provide solace to those

4998
01:34:18,629 --> 01:34:18,639
subtext is to provide solace to those
 

4999
01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:20,870
subtext is to provide solace to those
who feel their faith undermined by

5000
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:20,880
who feel their faith undermined by
 

5001
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,510
who feel their faith undermined by
secular society and by science in

5002
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:23,520
secular society and by science in
 

5003
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,510
secular society and by science in
particular. Meyer's selective

5004
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:25,520
particular. Meyer's selective
 

5005
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,669
particular. Meyer's selective
scholarship appears driven by his deep

5006
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:27,679
scholarship appears driven by his deep
 

5007
01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:30,310
scholarship appears driven by his deep
belief in an explicit role of an

5008
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:30,320
belief in an explicit role of an
 

5009
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,390
belief in an explicit role of an
intelligent designer in the history of

5010
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:32,400
intelligent designer in the history of
 

5011
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,270
intelligent designer in the history of
life. Quote,

5012
01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:33,280
life. Quote,
 

5013
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,110
life. Quote,
>> it it's just they're parading around

5014
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:35,120
>> it it's just they're parading around
 

5015
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,110
>> it it's just they're parading around
examples of educated people debunking

5016
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:37,120
examples of educated people debunking
 

5017
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,350
examples of educated people debunking
their propaganda and going why is

5018
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:39,360
their propaganda and going why is
 

5019
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,750
their propaganda and going why is
everyone so mean. They're making no

5020
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:41,760
everyone so mean. They're making no
 

5021
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,629
everyone so mean. They're making no
attempt to even it's like you like we

5022
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:44,639
attempt to even it's like you like we
 

5023
01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:46,950
attempt to even it's like you like we
are debunking you with science. Me, this

5024
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:46,960
are debunking you with science. Me, this
 

5025
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,350
are debunking you with science. Me, this
guy, we're saying accurate things to

5026
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:49,360
guy, we're saying accurate things to
 

5027
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,270
guy, we're saying accurate things to
prove that you're lying. your [\h__\h]

5028
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:51,280
prove that you're lying. your [\h__\h]
 

5029
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,030
prove that you're lying. your [\h__\h]
book, which I debunked the hell out of.

5030
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:53,040
book, which I debunked the hell out of.
 

5031
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,550
book, which I debunked the hell out of.
It's actually the main thing that I

5032
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:54,560
It's actually the main thing that I
 

5033
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,350
It's actually the main thing that I
focus in my 90minute piece on Meyer as

5034
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:57,360
focus in my 90minute piece on Meyer as
 

5035
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,990
focus in my 90minute piece on Meyer as
number two in the in the DI uh playlist.

5036
01:34:59,990 --> 01:35:00,000
number two in the in the DI uh playlist.
 

5037
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,310
number two in the in the DI uh playlist.
Uh he's just lying the whole [\h__\h]

5038
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:02,320
Uh he's just lying the whole [\h__\h]
 

5039
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,310
Uh he's just lying the whole [\h__\h]
time about the Cambrian explosion and

5040
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:04,320
time about the Cambrian explosion and
 

5041
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,430
time about the Cambrian explosion and
and related uh events. He's lying the

5042
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:07,440
and related uh events. He's lying the
 

5043
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:09,510
and related uh events. He's lying the
whole [\h__\h] time. So, yes, that is

5044
01:35:09,510 --> 01:35:09,520
whole [\h__\h] time. So, yes, that is
 

5045
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,550
whole [\h__\h] time. So, yes, that is
exactly what it is. It's lies to help uh

5046
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:12,560
exactly what it is. It's lies to help uh
 

5047
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,390
exactly what it is. It's lies to help uh
brainwash people into thinking that they

5048
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:14,400
brainwash people into thinking that they
 

5049
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,350
brainwash people into thinking that they
are justified, scientifically justified

5050
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:17,360
are justified, scientifically justified
 

5051
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,830
are justified, scientifically justified
in rejecting science. That is the

5052
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:19,840
in rejecting science. That is the
 

5053
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,669
in rejecting science. That is the
mission statement of Discovery Institute

5054
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:21,679
mission statement of Discovery Institute
 

5055
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:24,550
mission statement of Discovery Institute
is to pretend that religion is science.

5056
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:24,560
is to pretend that religion is science.
 

5057
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,470
is to pretend that religion is science.
The overintellectualization

5058
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:26,480
The overintellectualization
 

5059
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:29,030
The overintellectualization
of blind faith and dogma and a rejection

5060
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:29,040
of blind faith and dogma and a rejection
 

5061
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,470
of blind faith and dogma and a rejection
of scientific principles. They're trying

5062
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:30,480
of scientific principles. They're trying
 

5063
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:32,629
of scientific principles. They're trying
to disguise that as actual scientific

5064
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:32,639
to disguise that as actual scientific
 

5065
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:34,629
to disguise that as actual scientific
scholarship. That's why they talk about

5066
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:34,639
scholarship. That's why they talk about
 

5067
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:36,390
scholarship. That's why they talk about
I got so many papers and I got this

5068
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:36,400
I got so many papers and I got this
 

5069
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,149
I got so many papers and I got this
degree from blah blah blah blah blah.

5070
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:38,159
degree from blah blah blah blah blah.
 

5071
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:40,229
degree from blah blah blah blah blah.
It's all [\h__\h] smoke and mirrors, man.

5072
01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:40,239
It's all [\h__\h] smoke and mirrors, man.
 

5073
01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:43,030
It's all [\h__\h] smoke and mirrors, man.
And they will do nothing to defend their

5074
01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:43,040
And they will do nothing to defend their
 

5075
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,510
And they will do nothing to defend their
propaganda from the people who who uh

5076
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:45,520
propaganda from the people who who uh
 

5077
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:46,790
propaganda from the people who who uh
accurately expose them.

5078
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:46,800
accurately expose them.
 

5079
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,110
accurately expose them.
>> Close quote.

5080
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:49,120
>> Close quote.
 

5081
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:49,910
>> Close quote.
How come?

5082
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:49,920
How come?
 

5083
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:51,990
How come?
>> The reason for those quotes,

5084
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:52,000
>> The reason for those quotes,
 

5085
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:52,709
>> The reason for those quotes,
>> yes,

5086
01:35:52,709 --> 01:35:52,719
>> yes,
 

5087
01:35:52,719 --> 01:35:55,830
>> yes,
>> is that the people that wrote them do

5088
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:55,840
>> is that the people that wrote them do
 

5089
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,390
>> is that the people that wrote them do
not take the scientific arguments

5090
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:58,400
not take the scientific arguments
 

5091
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,750
not take the scientific arguments
seriously

5092
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:59,760
seriously
 

5093
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:00,790
seriously
>> because you don't have scientific

5094
01:36:00,790 --> 01:36:00,800
>> because you don't have scientific
 

5095
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,149
>> because you don't have scientific
arguments. You're just [\h__\h] lying

5096
01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:02,159
arguments. You're just [\h__\h] lying
 

5097
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:04,070
arguments. You're just [\h__\h] lying
about science the whole goddamn time and

5098
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:04,080
about science the whole goddamn time and
 

5099
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,750
about science the whole goddamn time and
humiliating yourself. That's why we

5100
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:05,760
humiliating yourself. That's why we
 

5101
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:06,390
humiliating yourself. That's why we
expose you.

5102
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:06,400
expose you.
 

5103
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,350
expose you.
>> And they are actually exemplifying what

5104
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:09,360
>> And they are actually exemplifying what
 

5105
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,669
>> And they are actually exemplifying what
they're accusing Jim and Steven. And

5106
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:11,679
they're accusing Jim and Steven. And
 

5107
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:14,550
they're accusing Jim and Steven. And
that was what I've seen all the time.

5108
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:14,560
that was what I've seen all the time.
 

5109
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,390
that was what I've seen all the time.
They will not get

5110
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:16,400
They will not get
 

5111
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,270
They will not get
>> of the faith. These are the materialist.

5112
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:19,280
>> of the faith. These are the materialist.
 

5113
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,430
>> of the faith. These are the materialist.
>> Yes, I know. But they're not able to

5114
01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:21,440
>> Yes, I know. But they're not able to
 

5115
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,590
>> Yes, I know. But they're not able to
defend it intellectually. So they give

5116
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:23,600
defend it intellectually. So they give
 

5117
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,149
defend it intellectually. So they give
these kind of ad homonym

5118
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:26,159
these kind of ad homonym
 

5119
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:29,830
these kind of ad homonym
>> said the [\h__\h] loser charlatans that

5120
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:29,840
>> said the [\h__\h] loser charlatans that
 

5121
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,229
>> said the [\h__\h] loser charlatans that
cannot defend their distortions of

5122
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:32,239
cannot defend their distortions of
 

5123
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:35,030
cannot defend their distortions of
science. So they resort to ad homonyms.

5124
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:35,040
science. So they resort to ad homonyms.
 

5125
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,430
science. So they resort to ad homonyms.
Dave is just a science explainer. So

5126
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:37,440
Dave is just a science explainer. So
 

5127
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:39,669
Dave is just a science explainer. So
what the hell does he know? Well, I

5128
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:39,679
what the hell does he know? Well, I
 

5129
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:41,830
what the hell does he know? Well, I
[\h__\h] humiliated you, James, and both

5130
01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:41,840
[\h__\h] humiliated you, James, and both
 

5131
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,709
[\h__\h] humiliated you, James, and both
of you dick bags as well. Um, any of you

5132
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:44,719
of you dick bags as well. Um, any of you
 

5133
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:46,229
of you dick bags as well. Um, any of you
want to debate me? I'll debate you,

5134
01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:46,239
want to debate me? I'll debate you,
 

5135
01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:48,550
want to debate me? I'll debate you,
Meyer. I'll debate you. I'll [\h__\h] I

5136
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:48,560
Meyer. I'll debate you. I'll [\h__\h] I
 

5137
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,149
Meyer. I'll debate you. I'll [\h__\h] I
definitely will debate you. What do you

5138
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:50,159
definitely will debate you. What do you
 

5139
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:51,990
definitely will debate you. What do you
say? I know you're watching this. I know

5140
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:52,000
say? I know you're watching this. I know
 

5141
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:53,669
say? I know you're watching this. I know
you watch everything I do and then

5142
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:53,679
you watch everything I do and then
 

5143
01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:55,109
you watch everything I do and then
decide whether to or are we going to do

5144
01:36:55,109 --> 01:36:55,119
decide whether to or are we going to do
 

5145
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:56,950
decide whether to or are we going to do
an evolution news? Are we going to do an

5146
01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:56,960
an evolution news? Are we going to do an
 

5147
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,270
an evolution news? Are we going to do an
evolution news because Dave debunked Avi

5148
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:59,280
evolution news because Dave debunked Avi
 

5149
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,709
evolution news because Dave debunked Avi
Lobe and we're going to whine about

5150
01:37:00,709 --> 01:37:00,719
Lobe and we're going to whine about
 

5151
01:37:00,719 --> 01:37:02,790
Lobe and we're going to whine about
anti-semitism?

5152
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:02,800
anti-semitism?
 

5153
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,030
anti-semitism?
Is that an ad homonym? Is whining about

5154
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:05,040
Is that an ad homonym? Is whining about
 

5155
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,510
Is that an ad homonym? Is whining about
me being an anti-semite? Is that

5156
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:07,520
me being an anti-semite? Is that
 

5157
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,590
me being an anti-semite? Is that
character assassination? Or is it just

5158
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:09,600
character assassination? Or is it just
 

5159
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,030
character assassination? Or is it just
you dumb [\h__\h] being completely

5160
01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:11,040
you dumb [\h__\h] being completely
 

5161
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,510
you dumb [\h__\h] being completely
incapable of addressing everything I say

5162
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:13,520
incapable of addressing everything I say
 

5163
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,870
incapable of addressing everything I say
to expose your distortions of science

5164
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:16,880
to expose your distortions of science
 

5165
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,070
to expose your distortions of science
right here buddy? Jim and he will speak

5166
01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:20,080
right here buddy? Jim and he will speak
 

5167
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,229
right here buddy? Jim and he will speak
for himself and Steven have issued

5168
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:22,239
for himself and Steven have issued
 

5169
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:25,030
for himself and Steven have issued
challenges to these materialists to come

5170
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:25,040
challenges to these materialists to come
 

5171
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,350
challenges to these materialists to come
up with evidence real argument. And do

5172
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:27,360
up with evidence real argument. And do
 

5173
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,629
up with evidence real argument. And do
they Jim?

5174
01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:28,639
they Jim?
 

5175
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:31,590
they Jim?
>> Well the the YouTuber doesn't have the

5176
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:31,600
>> Well the the YouTuber doesn't have the
 

5177
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,229
>> Well the the YouTuber doesn't have the
capacity to understand the science. So

5178
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:34,239
capacity to understand the science. So
 

5179
01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:35,990
capacity to understand the science. So
what I've done is I've challenged

5180
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:36,000
what I've done is I've challenged
 

5181
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,750
what I've done is I've challenged
>> David is a dum dum. I mean, it's not

5182
01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:37,760
>> David is a dum dum. I mean, it's not
 

5183
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,750
>> David is a dum dum. I mean, it's not
like he debunked everything I've ever

5184
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:39,760
like he debunked everything I've ever
 

5185
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,070
like he debunked everything I've ever
said on this topic ever to to

5186
01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:42,080
said on this topic ever to to
 

5187
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,390
said on this topic ever to to
smitherines and has reduced me to the

5188
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:44,400
smitherines and has reduced me to the
 

5189
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,750
smitherines and has reduced me to the
laughingstock of the scientific

5190
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:45,760
laughingstock of the scientific
 

5191
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,229
laughingstock of the scientific
community single-handedly, but he just

5192
01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:48,239
community single-handedly, but he just
 

5193
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:50,149
community single-handedly, but he just
doesn't get it right. He just But don't

5194
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:50,159
doesn't get it right. He just But don't
 

5195
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:51,430
doesn't get it right. He just But don't
look at his content. Don't look at his

5196
01:37:51,430 --> 01:37:51,440
look at his content. Don't look at his
 

5197
01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:53,590
look at his content. Don't look at his
content where he humiliates me for hours

5198
01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:53,600
content where he humiliates me for hours
 

5199
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,830
content where he humiliates me for hours
and hours and hours um with real

5200
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:55,840
and hours and hours um with real
 

5201
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,750
and hours and hours um with real
science, with actual science, actual

5202
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:57,760
science, with actual science, actual
 

5203
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,390
science, with actual science, actual
peer-reviewed science. Um but he doesn't

5204
01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:00,400
peer-reviewed science. Um but he doesn't
 

5205
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,510
peer-reviewed science. Um but he doesn't
get it. So, I issue challenges to the

5206
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:03,520
get it. So, I issue challenges to the
 

5207
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,990
get it. So, I issue challenges to the
real scientists who treat me like a

5208
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:06,000
real scientists who treat me like a
 

5209
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,750
real scientists who treat me like a
[\h__\h] troll and ignore me because

5210
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:07,760
[\h__\h] troll and ignore me because
 

5211
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,990
[\h__\h] troll and ignore me because
that's exactly what I am. Uh, so when

5212
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:10,000
that's exactly what I am. Uh, so when
 

5213
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,229
that's exactly what I am. Uh, so when
they don't respond uh to [\h__\h] that was

5214
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:12,239
they don't respond uh to [\h__\h] that was
 

5215
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:14,470
they don't respond uh to [\h__\h] that was
debunked to my face in the debate,

5216
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:14,480
debunked to my face in the debate,
 

5217
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:16,390
debunked to my face in the debate,
right? What were his challenges? Number

5218
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:16,400
right? What were his challenges? Number
 

5219
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,390
right? What were his challenges? Number
one, polyucleotides. I explained that to

5220
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:18,400
one, polyucleotides. I explained that to
 

5221
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,990
one, polyucleotides. I explained that to
you right to your face in the debate.

5222
01:38:19,990 --> 01:38:20,000
you right to your face in the debate.
 

5223
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,189
you right to your face in the debate.
Uh, pol uh, yeah, poly polyeptides and

5224
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:23,199
Uh, pol uh, yeah, poly polyeptides and
 

5225
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:25,189
Uh, pol uh, yeah, poly polyeptides and
then polyucleotides were the first two.

5226
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:25,199
then polyucleotides were the first two.
 

5227
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:26,629
then polyucleotides were the first two.
Explain that to you in the debate.

5228
01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:26,639
Explain that to you in the debate.
 

5229
01:38:26,639 --> 01:38:28,390
Explain that to you in the debate.
Number three, polysaccharides [\h__\h]

5230
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:28,400
Number three, polysaccharides [\h__\h]
 

5231
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:29,990
Number three, polysaccharides [\h__\h]
made by enzymes. Fourth one was

5232
01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:30,000
made by enzymes. Fourth one was
 

5233
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,830
made by enzymes. Fourth one was
specified information. That's not a real

5234
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:31,840
specified information. That's not a real
 

5235
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,669
specified information. That's not a real
thing. That's creationist propaganda.

5236
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:33,679
thing. That's creationist propaganda.
 

5237
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:34,950
thing. That's creationist propaganda.
And then the fifth thing was the cell.

5238
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:34,960
And then the fifth thing was the cell.
 

5239
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,229
And then the fifth thing was the cell.
We didn't get to it, but I tried to

5240
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:36,239
We didn't get to it, but I tried to
 

5241
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:37,990
We didn't get to it, but I tried to
explain some aspects of systems

5242
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:38,000
explain some aspects of systems
 

5243
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,590
explain some aspects of systems
chemistry to you and you just shot your

5244
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:39,600
chemistry to you and you just shot your
 

5245
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,510
chemistry to you and you just shot your
pants and and shrieked like a toddler.

5246
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:41,520
pants and and shrieked like a toddler.
 

5247
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,590
pants and and shrieked like a toddler.
Uh, so you don't have challenges. You

5248
01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:43,600
Uh, so you don't have challenges. You
 

5249
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,109
Uh, so you don't have challenges. You
don't actually have challenges, James.

5250
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:45,119
don't actually have challenges, James.
 

5251
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:46,310
don't actually have challenges, James.
And everybody in the scientific

5252
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:46,320
And everybody in the scientific
 

5253
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,990
And everybody in the scientific
community ignores you because you're a

5254
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:48,000
community ignores you because you're a
 

5255
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,990
community ignores you because you're a
toxic loser troll and they have actual

5256
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:50,000
toxic loser troll and they have actual
 

5257
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:51,910
toxic loser troll and they have actual
science to do. That's why I'm the one

5258
01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:51,920
science to do. That's why I'm the one
 

5259
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,590
science to do. That's why I'm the one
who who debunks the [\h__\h] out of you

5260
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:53,600
who who debunks the [\h__\h] out of you
 

5261
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,189
who who debunks the [\h__\h] out of you
because that's what I do. I'm a science

5262
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:55,199
because that's what I do. I'm a science
 

5263
01:38:55,199 --> 01:38:57,270
because that's what I do. I'm a science
communicator. So, it's my job to

5264
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:57,280
communicator. So, it's my job to
 

5265
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,430
communicator. So, it's my job to
humiliate you. And boy, what a great job

5266
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:59,440
humiliate you. And boy, what a great job
 

5267
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,990
humiliate you. And boy, what a great job
of that I've done. Don't you think?

5268
01:39:01,990 --> 01:39:02,000
of that I've done. Don't you think?
 

5269
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,189
of that I've done. Don't you think?
>> PhD chemists or biochemists to engage

5270
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:05,199
>> PhD chemists or biochemists to engage
 

5271
01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:08,709
>> PhD chemists or biochemists to engage
with me. I've challenged them openly uh

5272
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:08,719
with me. I've challenged them openly uh
 

5273
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:10,950
with me. I've challenged them openly uh
on my YouTube channel. Others have

5274
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:10,960
on my YouTube channel. Others have
 

5275
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,790
on my YouTube channel. Others have
reached out to them to meet with me.

5276
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:12,800
reached out to them to meet with me.
 

5277
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,550
reached out to them to meet with me.
We'll go on a neutral channel. I'll go

5278
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:14,560
We'll go on a neutral channel. I'll go
 

5279
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,189
We'll go on a neutral channel. I'll go
on their channel uh and we'll have this

5280
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:17,199
on their channel uh and we'll have this
 

5281
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:20,390
on their channel uh and we'll have this
discussion because the chemist can

5282
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:20,400
discussion because the chemist can
 

5283
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,149
discussion because the chemist can
understand what I'm talking about.

5284
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:22,159
understand what I'm talking about.
 

5285
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:24,470
understand what I'm talking about.
YouTubers can't. And

5286
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:24,480
YouTubers can't. And
 

5287
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:26,149
YouTubers can't. And
>> yeah, that's funny because I've actually

5288
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:26,159
>> yeah, that's funny because I've actually
 

5289
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:29,030
>> yeah, that's funny because I've actually
humiliated you even on chemistry that uh

5290
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:29,040
humiliated you even on chemistry that uh
 

5291
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,390
humiliated you even on chemistry that uh
has nothing to do like you didn't

5292
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:30,400
has nothing to do like you didn't
 

5293
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,550
has nothing to do like you didn't
understand stochastic crystallizations.

5294
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:32,560
understand stochastic crystallizations.
 

5295
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,709
understand stochastic crystallizations.
Like there was so much chemistry that

5296
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:34,719
Like there was so much chemistry that
 

5297
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:36,629
Like there was so much chemistry that
you legitimately don't understand. It

5298
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:36,639
you legitimately don't understand. It
 

5299
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:39,109
you legitimately don't understand. It
wasn't you like spewing your your

5300
01:39:39,109 --> 01:39:39,119
wasn't you like spewing your your
 

5301
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,790
wasn't you like spewing your your
science denial script. Like you're

5302
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:40,800
science denial script. Like you're
 

5303
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,629
science denial script. Like you're
actually really dumb with a lot of areas

5304
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:42,639
actually really dumb with a lot of areas
 

5305
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:44,550
actually really dumb with a lot of areas
of chemistry that don't pertain to like

5306
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:44,560
of chemistry that don't pertain to like
 

5307
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,229
of chemistry that don't pertain to like
your graphine and nanocars and [\h__\h] like

5308
01:39:46,229 --> 01:39:46,239
your graphine and nanocars and [\h__\h] like
 

5309
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:48,629
your graphine and nanocars and [\h__\h] like
that. Um but what was the other thing

5310
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:48,639
that. Um but what was the other thing
 

5311
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:50,070
that. Um but what was the other thing
you said? There was something else I

5312
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:50,080
you said? There was something else I
 

5313
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,830
you said? There was something else I
wanted to say. They I don't remember

5314
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:51,840
wanted to say. They I don't remember
 

5315
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,590
wanted to say. They I don't remember
now. Maybe I'll think of in a second.

5316
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:53,600
now. Maybe I'll think of in a second.
 

5317
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,590
now. Maybe I'll think of in a second.
>> And uh uh so when I go to the people

5318
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:55,600
>> And uh uh so when I go to the people
 

5319
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,030
>> And uh uh so when I go to the people
that understand what they're talking

5320
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:57,040
that understand what they're talking
 

5321
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,430
that understand what they're talking
what what what I'm talking about, they

5322
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:59,440
what what what I'm talking about, they
 

5323
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:01,430
what what what I'm talking about, they
won't engage. So

5324
01:40:01,430 --> 01:40:01,440
won't engage. So
 

5325
01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:02,629
won't engage. So
>> yeah, that was what I was going to say.

5326
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:02,639
>> yeah, that was what I was going to say.
 

5327
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:04,950
>> yeah, that was what I was going to say.
Yeah. Uh astrophysicists ignore

5328
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:04,960
Yeah. Uh astrophysicists ignore
 

5329
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,030
Yeah. Uh astrophysicists ignore
flatearthers. Does that mean the Earth

5330
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:07,040
flatearthers. Does that mean the Earth
 

5331
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,790
flatearthers. Does that mean the Earth
is flat? No. Because they're just

5332
01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:08,800
is flat? No. Because they're just
 

5333
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,310
is flat? No. Because they're just
scientists that don't give a [\h__\h] about

5334
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:10,320
scientists that don't give a [\h__\h] about
 

5335
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,990
scientists that don't give a [\h__\h] about
trolls like you. They're not going to

5336
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:12,000
trolls like you. They're not going to
 

5337
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,590
trolls like you. They're not going to
acknowledge you in any way, shape, or

5338
01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:13,600
acknowledge you in any way, shape, or
 

5339
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,990
acknowledge you in any way, shape, or
form because you're a [\h__\h] troll,

5340
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:16,000
form because you're a [\h__\h] troll,
 

5341
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,070
form because you're a [\h__\h] troll,
James. Sorry. Their silence says it all

5342
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:20,080
James. Sorry. Their silence says it all
 

5343
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,390
James. Sorry. Their silence says it all
because no answer is an answer in

5344
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:22,400
because no answer is an answer in
 

5345
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,270
because no answer is an answer in
itself. They will not respond to the

5346
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:25,280
itself. They will not respond to the
 

5347
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,229
itself. They will not respond to the
arguments because the they see exactly

5348
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:28,239
arguments because the they see exactly
 

5349
01:40:28,239 --> 01:40:31,910
arguments because the they see exactly
what I see. It this is not a mystery.

5350
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:31,920
what I see. It this is not a mystery.
 

5351
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,189
what I see. It this is not a mystery.
What I'm bringing forth is is is quite

5352
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:35,199
What I'm bringing forth is is is quite
 

5353
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:37,750
What I'm bringing forth is is is quite
obvious to the scientist. It's really

5354
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:37,760
obvious to the scientist. It's really
 

5355
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:38,470
obvious to the scientist. It's really
quite obvious.

5356
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:38,480
quite obvious.
 

5357
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:40,070
quite obvious.
>> Any working chemist knows what you're

5358
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:40,080
>> Any working chemist knows what you're
 

5359
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,790
>> Any working chemist knows what you're
>> and so why aren't any other scientists

5360
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:42,800
>> and so why aren't any other scientists
 

5361
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,189
>> and so why aren't any other scientists
supporting you here, James? You're the

5362
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:45,199
supporting you here, James? You're the
 

5363
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:47,109
supporting you here, James? You're the
only one spewing this [\h__\h] the

5364
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:47,119
only one spewing this [\h__\h] the
 

5365
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:49,189
only one spewing this [\h__\h] the
entire scientific community looks at you

5366
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:49,199
entire scientific community looks at you
 

5367
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:51,669
entire scientific community looks at you
in disgust and ignores you and you're

5368
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:51,679
in disgust and ignores you and you're
 

5369
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:53,910
in disgust and ignores you and you're
still saying scientists are saying are

5370
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:53,920
still saying scientists are saying are
 

5371
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,070
still saying scientists are saying are
seeing what you're seeing. Look at your

5372
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:56,080
seeing what you're seeing. Look at your
 

5373
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,149
seeing what you're seeing. Look at your
first challenge. How do we get

5374
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:58,159
first challenge. How do we get
 

5375
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:00,470
first challenge. How do we get
polyeptides? We can all acknowledge that

5376
01:41:00,470 --> 01:41:00,480
polyeptides? We can all acknowledge that
 

5377
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:02,629
polyeptides? We can all acknowledge that
getting amino acids are [\h__\h] trivial.

5378
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:02,639
getting amino acids are [\h__\h] trivial.
 

5379
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:04,790
getting amino acids are [\h__\h] trivial.
And then I showed you countless examples

5380
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:04,800
And then I showed you countless examples
 

5381
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,629
And then I showed you countless examples
of how we've shown that amino acids can

5382
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:06,639
of how we've shown that amino acids can
 

5383
01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:09,109
of how we've shown that amino acids can
polymerize to get polyeptides by

5384
01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:09,119
polymerize to get polyeptides by
 

5385
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:11,109
polymerize to get polyeptides by
prebiotically plausible chemical

5386
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:11,119
prebiotically plausible chemical
 

5387
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:13,430
prebiotically plausible chemical
activators or wet dry cycling. You

5388
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:13,440
activators or wet dry cycling. You
 

5389
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:16,149
activators or wet dry cycling. You
acknowledged none of it. chat your pants

5390
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:16,159
acknowledged none of it. chat your pants
 

5391
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:18,629
acknowledged none of it. chat your pants
about your DK linkage, which is a total

5392
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:18,639
about your DK linkage, which is a total
 

5393
01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:21,030
about your DK linkage, which is a total
straw man because those amino acids were

5394
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:21,040
straw man because those amino acids were
 

5395
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,870
straw man because those amino acids were
not necessary for the origin of life.

5396
01:41:22,870 --> 01:41:22,880
not necessary for the origin of life.
 

5397
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,470
not necessary for the origin of life.
And I showed you research where they

5398
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:24,480
And I showed you research where they
 

5399
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:27,270
And I showed you research where they
were coupled anyway, and you just shout

5400
01:41:27,270 --> 01:41:27,280
were coupled anyway, and you just shout
 

5401
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,830
were coupled anyway, and you just shout
your you just shout clueless and and cry

5402
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:29,840
your you just shout clueless and and cry
 

5403
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,229
your you just shout clueless and and cry
like a little toddler. Why should anyone

5404
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:32,239
like a little toddler. Why should anyone
 

5405
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:33,990
like a little toddler. Why should anyone
in the scientific community acknowledge

5406
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:34,000
in the scientific community acknowledge
 

5407
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,149
in the scientific community acknowledge
you when that's how you treat even a

5408
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:36,159
you when that's how you treat even a
 

5409
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:38,950
you when that's how you treat even a
generalist like me who can so easily

5410
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:38,960
generalist like me who can so easily
 

5411
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,030
generalist like me who can so easily
debunk your claims right to your face?

5412
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:41,040
debunk your claims right to your face?
 

5413
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,629
debunk your claims right to your face?
Why should anyone pay attention to you,

5414
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:42,639
Why should anyone pay attention to you,
 

5415
01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:43,750
Why should anyone pay attention to you,
James? And in fact, you don't want

5416
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:43,760
James? And in fact, you don't want
 

5417
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,669
James? And in fact, you don't want
anyone to. You want them to continue

5418
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:45,679
anyone to. You want them to continue
 

5419
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:47,510
anyone to. You want them to continue
ignoring you. Just like Eric Weinstein

5420
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:47,520
ignoring you. Just like Eric Weinstein
 

5421
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,669
ignoring you. Just like Eric Weinstein
wanted all the physicists to ignore

5422
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:49,679
wanted all the physicists to ignore
 

5423
01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:51,669
wanted all the physicists to ignore
geometric unity so that he could then

5424
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:51,679
geometric unity so that he could then
 

5425
01:41:51,679 --> 01:41:53,189
geometric unity so that he could then
say, "Well, why is no one paying

5426
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:53,199
say, "Well, why is no one paying
 

5427
01:41:53,199 --> 01:41:54,709
say, "Well, why is no one paying
attention to me? Please don't pay

5428
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:54,719
attention to me? Please don't pay
 

5429
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:56,229
attention to me? Please don't pay
attention to me. Why is no one paying

5430
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:56,239
attention to me. Why is no one paying
 

5431
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:58,310
attention to me. Why is no one paying
attention to me? It's just pathetic. All

5432
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:58,320
attention to me? It's just pathetic. All
 

5433
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,790
attention to me? It's just pathetic. All
of you [\h__\h] are like this. Nobody

5434
01:42:00,790 --> 01:42:00,800
of you [\h__\h] are like this. Nobody
 

5435
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,470
of you [\h__\h] are like this. Nobody
nobody in the field gives a [\h__\h] about

5436
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:02,480
nobody in the field gives a [\h__\h] about
 

5437
01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:04,709
nobody in the field gives a [\h__\h] about
you. You are so meaningless. They don't

5438
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:04,719
you. You are so meaningless. They don't
 

5439
01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:05,669
you. You are so meaningless. They don't
think about you."

5440
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:05,679
think about you."
 

5441
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:07,030
think about you."
>> That's what you're talking about.

5442
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:07,040
>> That's what you're talking about.
 

5443
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,350
>> That's what you're talking about.
>> Any working synthetic chemist, organic

5444
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:09,360
>> Any working synthetic chemist, organic
 

5445
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,109
>> Any working synthetic chemist, organic
chemist knows what I'm talking about.

5446
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:11,119
chemist knows what I'm talking about.
 

5447
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:13,350
chemist knows what I'm talking about.
Anybody who's worked with molecules,

5448
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:13,360
Anybody who's worked with molecules,
 

5449
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,109
Anybody who's worked with molecules,
they know exactly what I'm talking

5450
01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:15,119
they know exactly what I'm talking
 

5451
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:18,070
they know exactly what I'm talking
about. So, they don't touch it. There's

5452
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:18,080
about. So, they don't touch it. There's
 

5453
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,149
about. So, they don't touch it. There's
there's the more fundamental question is

5454
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:20,159
there's the more fundamental question is
 

5455
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:23,510
there's the more fundamental question is
why? Why? But but as far as the the

5456
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:23,520
why? Why? But but as far as the the
 

5457
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,390
why? Why? But but as far as the the
science goes, nobody's going to going to

5458
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:26,400
science goes, nobody's going to going to
 

5459
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,030
science goes, nobody's going to going to
contest with what I say. And this this

5460
01:42:29,030 --> 01:42:29,040
contest with what I say. And this this
 

5461
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,990
contest with what I say. And this this
information problem is very fundamental

5462
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:32,000
information problem is very fundamental
 

5463
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,550
information problem is very fundamental
because what we now know in 21st century

5464
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:34,560
because what we now know in 21st century
 

5465
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,629
because what we now know in 21st century
biology is that you want new biological

5466
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:36,639
biology is that you want new biological
 

5467
01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:38,790
biology is that you want new biological
form you have to provide or something

5468
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:38,800
form you have to provide or something
 

5469
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,270
form you have to provide or something
has to provide new information. Charles

5470
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:41,280
has to provide new information. Charles
 

5471
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,030
has to provide new information. Charles
Marshall my critic there to his credit

5472
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:43,040
Marshall my critic there to his credit
 

5473
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,830
Marshall my critic there to his credit
did do a debate with me for a rather

5474
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:45,840
did do a debate with me for a rather
 

5475
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,470
did do a debate with me for a rather
extensive debate. It's up online and he

5476
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:48,480
extensive debate. It's up online and he
 

5477
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:50,149
extensive debate. It's up online and he
was proposing we were discussing the

5478
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:50,159
was proposing we were discussing the
 

5479
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:51,830
was proposing we were discussing the
problem of the origin of the Cambrian

5480
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:51,840
problem of the origin of the Cambrian
 

5481
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,750
problem of the origin of the Cambrian
animals the so-called Cambrian explosion

5482
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:53,760
animals the so-called Cambrian explosion
 

5483
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,910
animals the so-called Cambrian explosion
which is an explosion of biological form

5484
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:55,920
which is an explosion of biological form
 

5485
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,350
which is an explosion of biological form
>> in the fossil record. in the fossil

5486
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:57,360
>> in the fossil record. in the fossil
 

5487
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,669
>> in the fossil record. in the fossil
record. But before that, it would be

5488
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:59,679
record. But before that, it would be
 

5489
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:01,750
record. But before that, it would be
required an explosion of information.

5490
01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:01,760
required an explosion of information.
 

5491
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,270
required an explosion of information.
And he had simply proposed, well, maybe

5492
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:03,280
And he had simply proposed, well, maybe
 

5493
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,709
And he had simply proposed, well, maybe
before the Cambrian animals, there were

5494
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:04,719
before the Cambrian animals, there were
 

5495
01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:06,950
before the Cambrian animals, there were
some pre-Camrian organisms that wouldn't

5496
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:06,960
some pre-Camrian organisms that wouldn't
 

5497
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,870
some pre-Camrian organisms that wouldn't
show up in the fossil record. And I

5498
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:08,880
show up in the fossil record. And I
 

5499
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,310
show up in the fossil record. And I
said, yes, but you still to build them.

5500
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:10,320
said, yes, but you still to build them.
 

5501
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:11,990
said, yes, but you still to build them.
You would still require information. The

5502
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:12,000
You would still require information. The
 

5503
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:13,669
You would still require information. The
information problem is still

5504
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:13,679
information problem is still
 

5505
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:14,229
information problem is still
fundamental.

5506
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:14,239
fundamental.
 

5507
01:43:14,239 --> 01:43:15,750
fundamental.
>> So, it has nothing to do with Cambrian

5508
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:15,760
>> So, it has nothing to do with Cambrian
 

5509
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,109
>> So, it has nothing to do with Cambrian
explosion at all. Right. And there are

5510
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:17,119
explosion at all. Right. And there are
 

5511
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:19,750
explosion at all. Right. And there are
precamrian forms that are in the there

5512
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:19,760
precamrian forms that are in the there
 

5513
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,070
precamrian forms that are in the there
are idi fauna that very that very

5514
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:22,080
are idi fauna that very that very
 

5515
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,470
are idi fauna that very that very
directly uh feed into the forms in

5516
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:24,480
directly uh feed into the forms in
 

5517
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:26,470
directly uh feed into the forms in
Cambrian that we see in the Cambrian

5518
01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:26,480
Cambrian that we see in the Cambrian
 

5519
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:28,950
Cambrian that we see in the Cambrian
explosion. But all it is you don't even

5520
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:28,960
explosion. But all it is you don't even
 

5521
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,149
explosion. But all it is you don't even
need to be talking about Cambrian

5522
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:30,159
need to be talking about Cambrian
 

5523
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:32,149
need to be talking about Cambrian
explosion. All you're really saying is

5524
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:32,159
explosion. All you're really saying is
 

5525
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:34,790
explosion. All you're really saying is
how get new forms though. Well, in order

5526
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:34,800
how get new forms though. Well, in order
 

5527
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,950
how get new forms though. Well, in order
to in order to pedal that you just have

5528
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:36,960
to in order to pedal that you just have
 

5529
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:42,790
to in order to pedal that you just have
to deny all so with him behe uh axe that

5530
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:42,800
to deny all so with him behe uh axe that
 

5531
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,790
to deny all so with him behe uh axe that
whole [\h__\h] Well, actually, no, no, not

5532
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:44,800
whole [\h__\h] Well, actually, no, no, not
 

5533
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,350
whole [\h__\h] Well, actually, no, no, not
axe, more beehe. I forget exactly the

5534
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:47,360
axe, more beehe. I forget exactly the
 

5535
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,030
axe, more beehe. I forget exactly the
ones the ones that are that pedal this

5536
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:49,040
ones the ones that are that pedal this
 

5537
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,189
ones the ones that are that pedal this
exact thing of how do you get new forms.

5538
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:51,199
exact thing of how do you get new forms.
 

5539
01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:53,830
exact thing of how do you get new forms.
They always deny macro mutations. They

5540
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:53,840
They always deny macro mutations. They
 

5541
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,030
They always deny macro mutations. They
just they they they offiscate about what

5542
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:57,040
just they they they offiscate about what
 

5543
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,109
just they they they offiscate about what
mutations can actually do to the genome.

5544
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:59,119
mutations can actually do to the genome.
 

5545
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:00,390
mutations can actually do to the genome.
They basically pretend that you can only

5546
01:44:00,390 --> 01:44:00,400
They basically pretend that you can only
 

5547
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,310
They basically pretend that you can only
have point mutations. In actuality, you

5548
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:02,320
have point mutations. In actuality, you
 

5549
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:03,430
have point mutations. In actuality, you
can have gene duplication and

5550
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:03,440
can have gene duplication and
 

5551
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:05,430
can have gene duplication and
neofunctionalization. So, you get an

5552
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:05,440
neofunctionalization. So, you get an
 

5553
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:07,430
neofunctionalization. So, you get an
entirely new gene. You can have denovo

5554
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:07,440
entirely new gene. You can have denovo
 

5555
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:09,590
entirely new gene. You can have denovo
genes. So a promoter gets transferred

5556
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:09,600
genes. So a promoter gets transferred
 

5557
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,270
genes. So a promoter gets transferred
and now you have a non previously

5558
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:11,280
and now you have a non previously
 

5559
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,109
and now you have a non previously
non-coding region which is a new gene.

5560
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:13,119
non-coding region which is a new gene.
 

5561
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:15,030
non-coding region which is a new gene.
So a totally new gene totally new

5562
01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:15,040
So a totally new gene totally new
 

5563
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:16,629
So a totally new gene totally new
protein product. You can have chro

5564
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:16,639
protein product. You can have chro
 

5565
01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:18,550
protein product. You can have chro
entire chromosome duplication and then

5566
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:18,560
entire chromosome duplication and then
 

5567
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:20,070
entire chromosome duplication and then
every single gene on that chromosome can

5568
01:44:20,070 --> 01:44:20,080
every single gene on that chromosome can
 

5569
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,750
every single gene on that chromosome can
then uh neopalize. So uh and there are

5570
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:23,760
then uh neopalize. So uh and there are
 

5571
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,830
then uh neopalize. So uh and there are
plenty plenty of these kinds of uh macro

5572
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:25,840
plenty plenty of these kinds of uh macro
 

5573
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,669
plenty plenty of these kinds of uh macro
mutations that in a single generation

5574
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:27,679
mutations that in a single generation
 

5575
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:28,790
mutations that in a single generation
you have to understand this in the

5576
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:28,800
you have to understand this in the
 

5577
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,790
you have to understand this in the
concept of of in the in the context of

5578
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:30,800
concept of of in the in the context of
 

5579
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,870
concept of of in the in the context of
embryionic development what that can do

5580
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:32,880
embryionic development what that can do
 

5581
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,310
embryionic development what that can do
right the the form that that arises is

5582
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:36,320
right the the form that that arises is
 

5583
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:37,750
right the the form that that arises is
being read from the genome if you

5584
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:37,760
being read from the genome if you
 

5585
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,590
being read from the genome if you
dramatically change the genome you can

5586
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:39,600
dramatically change the genome you can
 

5587
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,430
dramatically change the genome you can
get an entirely uh different form and in

5588
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:41,440
get an entirely uh different form and in
 

5589
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:42,950
get an entirely uh different form and in
my content I've show all kinds of

5590
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:42,960
my content I've show all kinds of
 

5591
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,709
my content I've show all kinds of
different examples of even point

5592
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:44,719
different examples of even point
 

5593
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:47,030
different examples of even point
mutations let alone macro mutations that

5594
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:47,040
mutations let alone macro mutations that
 

5595
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,550
mutations let alone macro mutations that
uh that dramatically alter the

5596
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:48,560
uh that dramatically alter the
 

5597
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,510
uh that dramatically alter the
morphology of an organism. So this is

5598
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:51,520
morphology of an organism. So this is
 

5599
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,430
morphology of an organism. So this is
it's just another big nothing burger.

5600
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:53,440
it's just another big nothing burger.
 

5601
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:55,350
it's just another big nothing burger.
It's just like the they deny literally

5602
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:55,360
It's just like the they deny literally
 

5603
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:56,790
It's just like the they deny literally
the entire field of origin of life

5604
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:56,800
the entire field of origin of life
 

5605
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:00,470
the entire field of origin of life
research. They deny most of genetics uh

5606
01:45:00,470 --> 01:45:00,480
research. They deny most of genetics uh
 

5607
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:02,310
research. They deny most of genetics uh
uh and the and the entire concept of

5608
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:02,320
uh and the and the entire concept of
 

5609
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,070
uh and the and the entire concept of
macro mutations and what that means for

5610
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:04,080
macro mutations and what that means for
 

5611
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,229
macro mutations and what that means for
embriionic development. So uh that is

5612
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:06,239
embriionic development. So uh that is
 

5613
01:45:06,239 --> 01:45:06,950
embriionic development. So uh that is
that part

5614
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:06,960
that part
 

5615
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:08,709
that part
>> his comment in the in the debate at that

5616
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:08,719
>> his comment in the in the debate at that
 

5617
01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:11,189
>> his comment in the in the debate at that
point was fair comment. So this has not

5618
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:11,199
point was fair comment. So this has not
 

5619
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:12,950
point was fair comment. So this has not
been solved by evolutionary theory

5620
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:12,960
been solved by evolutionary theory
 

5621
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,270
been solved by evolutionary theory
either biological evolutionary theory or

5622
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:15,280
either biological evolutionary theory or
 

5623
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,189
either biological evolutionary theory or
chemical evolutionary theory. But again

5624
01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:17,199
chemical evolutionary theory. But again
 

5625
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:19,750
chemical evolutionary theory. But again
to reiterate John's point, information

5626
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:19,760
to reiterate John's point, information
 

5627
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,709
to reiterate John's point, information
is something that is produced by a

5628
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:22,719
is something that is produced by a
 

5629
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:24,790
is something that is produced by a
particular type of cause of which we all

5630
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:24,800
particular type of cause of which we all
 

5631
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,629
particular type of cause of which we all
know and that is an intelligent mind.

5632
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:26,639
know and that is an intelligent mind.
 

5633
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:28,229
know and that is an intelligent mind.
And we're finding at the foundation of

5634
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:28,239
And we're finding at the foundation of
 

5635
01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:31,350
And we're finding at the foundation of
life, information encoded in DNA

5636
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:31,360
life, information encoded in DNA
 

5637
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,270
life, information encoded in DNA
expressed in complex information

5638
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:33,280
expressed in complex information
 

5639
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,189
expressed in complex information
processing systems. It's absolutely

5640
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:35,199
processing systems. It's absolutely
 

5641
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:36,390
processing systems. It's absolutely
exquisite. So

5642
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:36,400
exquisite. So
 

5643
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,430
exquisite. So
>> yeah, uh in the the information in DNA

5644
01:45:39,430 --> 01:45:39,440
>> yeah, uh in the the information in DNA
 

5645
01:45:39,440 --> 01:45:41,189
>> yeah, uh in the the information in DNA
is the sequence of nucleotides. That's

5646
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:41,199
is the sequence of nucleotides. That's
 

5647
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,430
is the sequence of nucleotides. That's
it. It's just a sequence of nucleotides.

5648
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:43,440
it. It's just a sequence of nucleotides.
 

5649
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:45,430
it. It's just a sequence of nucleotides.
There's no special sauce. There's no

5650
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:45,440
There's no special sauce. There's no
 

5651
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:46,950
There's no special sauce. There's no
mystical essence that needs to be

5652
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:46,960
mystical essence that needs to be
 

5653
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,629
mystical essence that needs to be
implanted from a deity into the

5654
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:48,639
implanted from a deity into the
 

5655
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:50,550
implanted from a deity into the
molecule. It's just a [\h__\h] sequence

5656
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:50,560
molecule. It's just a [\h__\h] sequence
 

5657
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,109
molecule. It's just a [\h__\h] sequence
of nucleotides. That's all it is.

5658
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:53,119
of nucleotides. That's all it is.
 

5659
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:56,310
of nucleotides. That's all it is.
>> If if information precedes the new

5660
01:45:56,310 --> 01:45:56,320
>> If if information precedes the new
 

5661
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,629
>> If if information precedes the new
biological form,

5662
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:58,639
biological form,
 

5663
01:45:58,639 --> 01:46:00,870
biological form,
I'm sure this is metaphorical or I'm

5664
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:00,880
I'm sure this is metaphorical or I'm
 

5665
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,750
I'm sure this is metaphorical or I'm
sure I'm getting this wrong,

5666
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:03,760
sure I'm getting this wrong,
 

5667
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,910
sure I'm getting this wrong,
but is it something like the new species

5668
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:07,920
but is it something like the new species
 

5669
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,550
but is it something like the new species
must be imagined before it comes into

5670
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:10,560
must be imagined before it comes into
 

5671
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,390
must be imagined before it comes into
being? Well, the species is a bit of a

5672
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:14,400
being? Well, the species is a bit of a
 

5673
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:15,350
being? Well, the species is a bit of a
>> or new form or

5674
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:15,360
>> or new form or
 

5675
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:16,790
>> or new form or
>> new form the fundamental new forms of

5676
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:16,800
>> new form the fundamental new forms of
 

5677
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,709
>> new form the fundamental new forms of
life require

5678
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:18,719
life require
 

5679
01:46:18,719 --> 01:46:21,030
life require
like because we don't they they don't

5680
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:21,040
like because we don't they they don't
 

5681
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,669
like because we don't they they don't
like to get specific with taxonomy,

5682
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:23,679
like to get specific with taxonomy,
 

5683
01:46:23,679 --> 01:46:25,750
like to get specific with taxonomy,
right? They like to this is where they

5684
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:25,760
right? They like to this is where they
 

5685
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,830
right? They like to this is where they
try to do a Kent Hovind thing with

5686
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:27,840
try to do a Kent Hovind thing with
 

5687
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,390
try to do a Kent Hovind thing with
kinds. Um they don't want to say new

5688
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:30,400
kinds. Um they don't want to say new
 

5689
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,790
kinds. Um they don't want to say new
because speciation occurs, right? We

5690
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:32,800
because speciation occurs, right? We
 

5691
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,790
because speciation occurs, right? We
observe uh the development of new

5692
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:34,800
observe uh the development of new
 

5693
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,750
observe uh the development of new
species. So he can't say no, you can't

5694
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:37,760
species. So he can't say no, you can't
 

5695
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,350
species. So he can't say no, you can't
get new species because we [\h__\h] see

5696
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:39,360
get new species because we [\h__\h] see
 

5697
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,270
get new species because we [\h__\h] see
it. We watch it happen with our own

5698
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:41,280
it. We watch it happen with our own
 

5699
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,350
it. We watch it happen with our own
eyes. We see it happen. So he has to

5700
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:43,360
eyes. We see it happen. So he has to
 

5701
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,229
eyes. We see it happen. So he has to
have this nebulousness of kind which he

5702
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:46,239
have this nebulousness of kind which he
 

5703
01:46:46,239 --> 01:46:48,709
have this nebulousness of kind which he
tries to tether to film. That's why he

5704
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:48,719
tries to tether to film. That's why he
 

5705
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:50,229
tries to tether to film. That's why he
talks about Cambrian explosion all the

5706
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:50,239
talks about Cambrian explosion all the
 

5707
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:52,390
talks about Cambrian explosion all the
time because Cambrian explosion in that

5708
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:52,400
time because Cambrian explosion in that
 

5709
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:53,830
time because Cambrian explosion in that
first of all he lies about how long it

5710
01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:53,840
first of all he lies about how long it
 

5711
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,669
first of all he lies about how long it
was. He says it's 10 million years. It's

5712
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:55,679
was. He says it's 10 million years. It's
 

5713
01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:58,149
was. He says it's 10 million years. It's
more like 40 or honestly as long as 80

5714
01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:58,159
more like 40 or honestly as long as 80
 

5715
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:01,510
more like 40 or honestly as long as 80
million years. Um but that is the era

5716
01:47:01,510 --> 01:47:01,520
million years. Um but that is the era
 

5717
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,669
million years. Um but that is the era
when many or most of uh fila that modern

5718
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:05,679
when many or most of uh fila that modern
 

5719
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:09,030
when many or most of uh fila that modern
animals uh fall into originally arose.

5720
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:09,040
animals uh fall into originally arose.
 

5721
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,470
animals uh fall into originally arose.
That's true. Um, but uh, so he's that's

5722
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:12,480
That's true. Um, but uh, so he's that's
 

5723
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:13,910
That's true. Um, but uh, so he's that's
why he fixates on that time period

5724
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:13,920
why he fixates on that time period
 

5725
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,030
why he fixates on that time period
because it's like, well, how'd you get

5726
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:15,040
because it's like, well, how'd you get
 

5727
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,629
because it's like, well, how'd you get
that form and that form and that form?

5728
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:16,639
that form and that form and that form?
 

5729
01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:18,629
that form and that form and that form?
Um, but then he won't genuinely talk

5730
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:18,639
Um, but then he won't genuinely talk
 

5731
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:20,550
Um, but then he won't genuinely talk
about the the concepts in molecular

5732
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:20,560
about the the concepts in molecular
 

5733
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,950
about the the concepts in molecular
biology that allow for it. Um, but then

5734
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:22,960
biology that allow for it. Um, but then
 

5735
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,510
biology that allow for it. Um, but then
it's also this other DNA magic

5736
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:25,520
it's also this other DNA magic
 

5737
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:26,390
it's also this other DNA magic
information [\h__\h]

5738
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:26,400
information [\h__\h]
 

5739
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,750
information [\h__\h]
>> We know that just require information.

5740
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:27,760
>> We know that just require information.
 

5741
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,430
>> We know that just require information.
>> We know that information is required to

5742
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:29,440
>> We know that information is required to
 

5743
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:29,910
>> We know that information is required to
build them.

5744
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:29,920
build them.
 

5745
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:30,229
build them.
>> Okay.

5746
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:30,239
>> Okay.
 

5747
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:31,750
>> Okay.
>> Okay. And we know that information comes

5748
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:31,760
>> Okay. And we know that information comes
 

5749
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,189
>> Okay. And we know that information comes
from a mind. So when we see these

5750
01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:33,199
from a mind. So when we see these
 

5751
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:35,109
from a mind. So when we see these
explosions of new form,

5752
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:35,119
explosions of new form,
 

5753
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:36,870
explosions of new form,
>> information can come from a mind.

5754
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:36,880
>> information can come from a mind.
 

5755
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,950
>> information can come from a mind.
Therefore, all information comes from a

5756
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:38,960
Therefore, all information comes from a
 

5757
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,750
Therefore, all information comes from a
mind and uh and a god exists. It can't

5758
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:41,760
mind and uh and a god exists. It can't
 

5759
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,790
mind and uh and a god exists. It can't
possibly just be uh molecules that exist

5760
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:44,800
possibly just be uh molecules that exist
 

5761
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,030
possibly just be uh molecules that exist
and have random sequences of monomers

5762
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:47,040
and have random sequences of monomers
 

5763
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,109
and have random sequences of monomers
and then certain sequences happen to

5764
01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:49,119
and then certain sequences happen to
 

5765
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:50,950
and then certain sequences happen to
have some kind of function and so they

5766
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:50,960
have some kind of function and so they
 

5767
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,229
have some kind of function and so they
proliferate in a statistically

5768
01:47:52,229 --> 01:47:52,239
proliferate in a statistically
 

5769
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:53,750
proliferate in a statistically
significant way and then natural

5770
01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:53,760
significant way and then natural
 

5771
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,790
significant way and then natural
selection uh guides the the those

5772
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:56,800
selection uh guides the the those
 

5773
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,790
selection uh guides the the those
particular sequences. Can't possibly be

5774
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:58,800
particular sequences. Can't possibly be
 

5775
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,390
particular sequences. Can't possibly be
the case. And you can't possibly have

5776
01:48:00,390 --> 01:48:00,400
the case. And you can't possibly have
 

5777
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,550
the case. And you can't possibly have
random processes that change the

5778
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:02,560
random processes that change the
 

5779
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:03,910
random processes that change the
sequence of nucleotides, even though

5780
01:48:03,910 --> 01:48:03,920
sequence of nucleotides, even though
 

5781
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,270
sequence of nucleotides, even though
yes, you [\h__\h] can, and we know what

5782
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:05,280
yes, you [\h__\h] can, and we know what
 

5783
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,030
yes, you [\h__\h] can, and we know what
they are. And those can't possibly

5784
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:07,040
they are. And those can't possibly
 

5785
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,030
they are. And those can't possibly
dramatically change the morphology of a

5786
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:09,040
dramatically change the morphology of a
 

5787
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,550
dramatically change the morphology of a
developing organism, even though, yes,

5788
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:10,560
developing organism, even though, yes,
 

5789
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,990
developing organism, even though, yes,
they [\h__\h] can, because we can see

5790
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:12,000
they [\h__\h] can, because we can see
 

5791
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,990
they [\h__\h] can, because we can see
that. We've seen that happen. Um, it's

5792
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:14,000
that. We've seen that happen. Um, it's
 

5793
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:15,830
that. We've seen that happen. Um, it's
just lie after lie after lie after lie,

5794
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:15,840
just lie after lie after lie after lie,
 

5795
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,189
just lie after lie after lie after lie,
distortion after distortion after

5796
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:17,199
distortion after distortion after
 

5797
01:48:17,199 --> 01:48:19,270
distortion after distortion after
distortion. They have nothing else.

5798
01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:19,280
distortion. They have nothing else.
 

5799
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,109
distortion. They have nothing else.
Don't have a leg to stand on.

5800
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:21,119
Don't have a leg to stand on.
 

5801
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:24,390
Don't have a leg to stand on.
>> I think we are seeing evidence of of the

5802
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:24,400
>> I think we are seeing evidence of of the
 

5803
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,790
>> I think we are seeing evidence of of the
activity of a of a divining a designing

5804
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:26,800
activity of a of a divining a designing
 

5805
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,310
activity of a of a divining a designing
mind. Yeah. By the way, so back in 2019,

5806
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:30,320
mind. Yeah. By the way, so back in 2019,
 

5807
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,709
mind. Yeah. By the way, so back in 2019,
uh, I recorded a show with you and David

5808
01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:32,719
uh, I recorded a show with you and David
 

5809
01:48:32,719 --> 01:48:34,550
uh, I recorded a show with you and David
Berinsky and David Galertner, and that

5810
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:34,560
Berinsky and David Galertner, and that
 

5811
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:35,910
Berinsky and David Galertner, and that
was on

5812
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:35,920
was on
 

5813
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:37,590
was on
>> the mathematical challenges to

5814
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:37,600
>> the mathematical challenges to
 

5815
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:38,470
>> the mathematical challenges to
neodyarwinism.

5816
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:38,480
neodyarwinism.
 

5817
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:39,830
neodyarwinism.
>> Darwin to Darwin.

5818
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:39,840
>> Darwin to Darwin.
 

5819
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,350
>> Darwin to Darwin.
>> I got to do I should do a reaction to

5820
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:41,360
>> I got to do I should do a reaction to
 

5821
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,189
>> I got to do I should do a reaction to
that one, too. I' I've seen that. I've

5822
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:43,199
that one, too. I' I've seen that. I've
 

5823
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:44,629
that one, too. I' I've seen that. I've
seen clips of that, and like [\h__\h]

5824
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:44,639
seen clips of that, and like [\h__\h]
 

5825
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:47,910
seen clips of that, and like [\h__\h]
Burlinsky with his goddamn denim vest

5826
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:47,920
Burlinsky with his goddamn denim vest
 

5827
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,270
Burlinsky with his goddamn denim vest
and a cane. Look at this [\h__\h] [\h__\h]

5828
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:51,280
and a cane. Look at this [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
 

5829
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:52,870
and a cane. Look at this [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
tool. Binsky is going to get an

5830
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:52,880
tool. Binsky is going to get an
 

5831
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,709
tool. Binsky is going to get an
installation in the in the DI list at

5832
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:54,719
installation in the in the DI list at
 

5833
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:56,790
installation in the in the DI list at
some point. And the comments on this

5834
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:56,800
some point. And the comments on this
 

5835
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,109
some point. And the comments on this
show on YouTube were scathing. Why are

5836
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:59,119
show on YouTube were scathing. Why are
 

5837
01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:00,790
show on YouTube were scathing. Why are
you wasting to me? Why are you wasting

5838
01:49:00,790 --> 01:49:00,800
you wasting to me? Why are you wasting
 

5839
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,270
you wasting to me? Why are you wasting
your time with these cranks? And 2023,

5840
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:03,280
your time with these cranks? And 2023,
 

5841
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,070
your time with these cranks? And 2023,
we recorded another show with you and

5842
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:06,080
we recorded another show with you and
 

5843
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,470
we recorded another show with you and
John and Michael Beehe, not the same

5844
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:08,480
John and Michael Beehe, not the same
 

5845
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:11,030
John and Michael Beehe, not the same
topic, but similar topic. And the tone

5846
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:11,040
topic, but similar topic. And the tone
 

5847
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,950
topic, but similar topic. And the tone
of the comments was completely

5848
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:12,960
of the comments was completely
 

5849
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:14,629
of the comments was completely
different. Do you feel

5850
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:14,639
different. Do you feel
 

5851
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:16,470
different. Do you feel
>> because you started heavily moderating

5852
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:16,480
>> because you started heavily moderating
 

5853
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:18,470
>> because you started heavily moderating
your comment sections and deleting

5854
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:18,480
your comment sections and deleting
 

5855
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:20,709
your comment sections and deleting
anyone who debunks all of the dumb [\h__\h]

5856
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:20,719
anyone who debunks all of the dumb [\h__\h]
 

5857
01:49:20,719 --> 01:49:22,470
anyone who debunks all of the dumb [\h__\h]
that you say? Uh, could that have

5858
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:22,480
that you say? Uh, could that have
 

5859
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,030
that you say? Uh, could that have
something to do with it? No.

5860
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:25,040
something to do with it? No.
 

5861
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,910
something to do with it? No.
a change in the way you're being

5862
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:27,920
a change in the way you're being
 

5863
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,149
a change in the way you're being
received. Is it generational?

5864
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:30,159
received. Is it generational?
 

5865
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:31,350
received. Is it generational?
>> Yeah, I don't know if it's generational,

5866
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:31,360
>> Yeah, I don't know if it's generational,
 

5867
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,109
>> Yeah, I don't know if it's generational,
but something's shifting very science.

5868
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:33,119
but something's shifting very science.
 

5869
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:33,590
but something's shifting very science.
>> Yeah.

5870
01:49:33,590 --> 01:49:33,600
>> Yeah.
 

5871
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,149
>> Yeah.
>> At my University of Oxford,

5872
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:36,159
>> At my University of Oxford,
 

5873
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:39,109
>> At my University of Oxford,
>> and all three of us know this person,

5874
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:39,119
>> and all three of us know this person,
 

5875
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:42,709
>> and all three of us know this person,
there's a brilliant scientist, Dennis

5876
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:42,719
there's a brilliant scientist, Dennis
 

5877
01:49:42,719 --> 01:49:44,950
there's a brilliant scientist, Dennis
Noble. He's a fellow of Royal Society,

5878
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:44,960
Noble. He's a fellow of Royal Society,
 

5879
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,030
Noble. He's a fellow of Royal Society,
is regarded widely as the father of

5880
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:47,040
is regarded widely as the father of
 

5881
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:51,030
is regarded widely as the father of
systems biology. and he is on record as

5882
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:51,040
systems biology. and he is on record as
 

5883
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:56,709
systems biology. and he is on record as
a scientist to say that neodyarwinism

5884
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:56,719
a scientist to say that neodyarwinism
 

5885
01:49:56,719 --> 01:49:59,750
a scientist to say that neodyarwinism
doesn't need to be refined. It now needs

5886
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:59,760
doesn't need to be refined. It now needs
 

5887
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,149
doesn't need to be refined. It now needs
to be completely replaced.

5888
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:02,159
to be completely replaced.
 

5889
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:04,470
to be completely replaced.
>> Yeah. And uh so neodyarwinism isn't even

5890
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:04,480
>> Yeah. And uh so neodyarwinism isn't even
 

5891
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:06,629
>> Yeah. And uh so neodyarwinism isn't even
the modern uh model of evolutionary

5892
01:50:06,629 --> 01:50:06,639
the modern uh model of evolutionary
 

5893
01:50:06,639 --> 01:50:08,629
the modern uh model of evolutionary
biology. We have a modern synthesis, an

5894
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:08,639
biology. We have a modern synthesis, an
 

5895
01:50:08,639 --> 01:50:11,109
biology. We have a modern synthesis, an
integrated synthesis. And uh Noble is

5896
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:11,119
integrated synthesis. And uh Noble is
 

5897
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:14,229
integrated synthesis. And uh Noble is
now a Templetonf funded crank. Uh so go

5898
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:14,239
now a Templetonf funded crank. Uh so go
 

5899
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:16,950
now a Templetonf funded crank. Uh so go
watch my video on uh Dennis Noble to

5900
01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:16,960
watch my video on uh Dennis Noble to
 

5901
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,229
watch my video on uh Dennis Noble to
elucidate uh the the details of his

5902
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:20,239
elucidate uh the the details of his
 

5903
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:22,470
elucidate uh the the details of his
pseudocience and the reasons that he is

5904
01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:22,480
pseudocience and the reasons that he is
 

5905
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:24,629
pseudocience and the reasons that he is
pedalling them. Um you can also watch my

5906
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:24,639
pedalling them. Um you can also watch my
 

5907
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:27,030
pedalling them. Um you can also watch my
content on Sabore because uh Sabore

5908
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:27,040
content on Sabore because uh Sabore
 

5909
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,189
content on Sabore because uh Sabore
worships Noble and talks about him

5910
01:50:29,189 --> 01:50:29,199
worships Noble and talks about him
 

5911
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:31,189
worships Noble and talks about him
constantly and so there's a lot of fun

5912
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:31,199
constantly and so there's a lot of fun
 

5913
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:33,750
constantly and so there's a lot of fun
content uh where he's just glazing

5914
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:33,760
content uh where he's just glazing
 

5915
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,350
content uh where he's just glazing
Dennis Noble and thinks that that's an

5916
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:35,360
Dennis Noble and thinks that that's an
 

5917
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,189
Dennis Noble and thinks that that's an
argument. Um so yeah uh yeah no Noble

5918
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:39,199
argument. Um so yeah uh yeah no Noble
 

5919
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:40,950
argument. Um so yeah uh yeah no Noble
does not really enter into this doesn't

5920
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:40,960
does not really enter into this doesn't
 

5921
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:42,950
does not really enter into this doesn't
work. Sorry guys. Now the interesting

5922
01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:42,960
work. Sorry guys. Now the interesting
 

5923
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,830
work. Sorry guys. Now the interesting
thing is that there are some leading

5924
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:45,840
thing is that there are some leading
 

5925
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,310
thing is that there are some leading
biologists in the world saying similar

5926
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:48,320
biologists in the world saying similar
 

5927
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,109
biologists in the world saying similar
things. Many of them are still quite

5928
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:51,119
things. Many of them are still quite
 

5929
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:53,510
things. Many of them are still quite
materialistic but they've given up on

5930
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:53,520
materialistic but they've given up on
 

5931
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,550
materialistic but they've given up on
this. Whereas the general public tends

5932
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:56,560
this. Whereas the general public tends
 

5933
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,390
this. Whereas the general public tends
to hang in with the old stuff and

5934
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:58,400
to hang in with the old stuff and
 

5935
01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:59,510
to hang in with the old stuff and
they've never heard this.

5936
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:59,520
they've never heard this.
 

5937
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,669
they've never heard this.
>> Oh, I see. That's all right. You you you

5938
01:51:01,669 --> 01:51:01,679
>> Oh, I see. That's all right. You you you
 

5939
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:04,310
>> Oh, I see. That's all right. You you you
experience the same sort of change, more

5940
01:51:04,310 --> 01:51:04,320
experience the same sort of change, more
 

5941
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,430
experience the same sort of change, more
openness.

5942
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:05,440
openness.
 

5943
01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:07,750
openness.
>> I Yeah, I I think the papers are

5944
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:07,760
>> I Yeah, I I think the papers are
 

5945
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,950
>> I Yeah, I I think the papers are
certainly being written differently. So

5946
01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:10,960
certainly being written differently. So
 

5947
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,350
certainly being written differently. So
the origin of life researchers are not

5948
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:13,360
the origin of life researchers are not
 

5949
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:17,750
the origin of life researchers are not
making the the gross extrapolations from

5950
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:17,760
making the the gross extrapolations from
 

5951
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,830
making the the gross extrapolations from
a very small piece of data.

5952
01:51:19,830 --> 01:51:19,840
a very small piece of data.
 

5953
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,910
a very small piece of data.
>> This [\h__\h] thinks that actually

5954
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:21,920
>> This [\h__\h] thinks that actually
 

5955
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,990
>> This [\h__\h] thinks that actually
thinks that origin of life researchers

5956
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:24,000
thinks that origin of life researchers
 

5957
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,910
thinks that origin of life researchers
think about James when writing their

5958
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:25,920
think about James when writing their
 

5959
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,149
think about James when writing their
papers. Like oh James is going to get me

5960
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:28,159
papers. Like oh James is going to get me
 

5961
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:29,910
papers. Like oh James is going to get me
if I if I write that so I better change

5962
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:29,920
if I if I write that so I better change
 

5963
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,750
if I if I write that so I better change
it. They don't [\h__\h] think about you

5964
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:31,760
it. They don't [\h__\h] think about you
 

5965
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,550
it. They don't [\h__\h] think about you
James. You are a troll. You are you are

5966
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:34,560
James. You are a troll. You are you are
 

5967
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,030
James. You are a troll. You are you are
a flat-earther to astrophysicists.

5968
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:37,040
a flat-earther to astrophysicists.
 

5969
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,350
a flat-earther to astrophysicists.
That's that's what you are. you are a

5970
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:39,360
That's that's what you are. you are a
 

5971
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,270
That's that's what you are. you are a
[\h__\h] denying the field of science that

5972
01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:41,280
[\h__\h] denying the field of science that
 

5973
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,270
[\h__\h] denying the field of science that
they do that they that they engage in

5974
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:43,280
they do that they that they engage in
 

5975
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,430
they do that they that they engage in
and uh they don't care about you. I'm

5976
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:45,440
and uh they don't care about you. I'm
 

5977
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:47,270
and uh they don't care about you. I'm
sorry. And none of this shift is

5978
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:47,280
sorry. And none of this shift is
 

5979
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:48,310
sorry. And none of this shift is
happening, right? They're trying to

5980
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:48,320
happening, right? They're trying to
 

5981
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,470
happening, right? They're trying to
paint it as like there's a there's a

5982
01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:50,480
paint it as like there's a there's a
 

5983
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,870
paint it as like there's a there's a
shift to brewing. So get in get in on

5984
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:52,880
shift to brewing. So get in get in on
 

5985
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,629
shift to brewing. So get in get in on
the ground floor while you can. We're

5986
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:54,639
the ground floor while you can. We're
 

5987
01:51:54,639 --> 01:51:57,430
the ground floor while you can. We're
going to overturn this dirty materialism

5988
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:57,440
going to overturn this dirty materialism
 

5989
01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:59,750
going to overturn this dirty materialism
paradigm from the stupid mainstream

5990
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:59,760
paradigm from the stupid mainstream
 

5991
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,830
paradigm from the stupid mainstream
scientists. And the new era is going to

5992
01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:01,840
scientists. And the new era is going to
 

5993
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,510
scientists. And the new era is going to
be us uh us Jesusloving scientists uh

5994
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:05,520
be us uh us Jesusloving scientists uh
 

5995
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,669
be us uh us Jesusloving scientists uh
that that know about souls and how God

5996
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:07,679
that that know about souls and how God
 

5997
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:09,830
that that know about souls and how God
had to make all this stuff progressively

5998
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:09,840
had to make all this stuff progressively
 

5999
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,310
had to make all this stuff progressively
bit by bit because he's such a loser god

6000
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:12,320
bit by bit because he's such a loser god
 

6001
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,709
bit by bit because he's such a loser god
that he can't just make make a universe

6002
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:14,719
that he can't just make make a universe
 

6003
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:16,070
that he can't just make make a universe
where life can come about by

6004
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:16,080
where life can come about by
 

6005
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,790
where life can come about by
naturalistic processes. Pretty insane.

6006
01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:18,800
naturalistic processes. Pretty insane.
 

6007
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,589
naturalistic processes. Pretty insane.
>> They used to make the press still hypes

6008
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:21,599
>> They used to make the press still hypes
 

6009
01:52:21,599 --> 01:52:24,070
>> They used to make the press still hypes
it up and and the origin of life

6010
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:24,080
it up and and the origin of life
 

6011
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,109
it up and and the origin of life
scientists are responsible for allowing

6012
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:27,119
scientists are responsible for allowing
 

6013
01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:27,510
scientists are responsible for allowing
a lot.

6014
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:27,520
a lot.
 

6015
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:29,270
a lot.
>> The press does still hype it up. I will

6016
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:29,280
>> The press does still hype it up. I will
 

6017
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:30,550
>> The press does still hype it up. I will
give him that, but it's not the

6018
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:30,560
give him that, but it's not the
 

6019
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,229
give him that, but it's not the
scientist's fault. It's [\h__\h]

6020
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:32,239
scientist's fault. It's [\h__\h]
 

6021
01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:33,669
scientist's fault. It's [\h__\h]
clickbait culture. Deal with it. A

6022
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:33,679
clickbait culture. Deal with it. A
 

6023
01:52:33,679 --> 01:52:35,270
clickbait culture. Deal with it. A
>> lot of that to go forth because a lot of

6024
01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:35,280
>> lot of that to go forth because a lot of
 

6025
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:36,950
>> lot of that to go forth because a lot of
times the press will will ask you, did

6026
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:36,960
times the press will will ask you, did
 

6027
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,950
times the press will will ask you, did
we get this right? And and so they they

6028
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:38,960
we get this right? And and so they they
 

6029
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,790
we get this right? And and so they they
will have extrapolations there. So it's

6030
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:40,800
will have extrapolations there. So it's
 

6031
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,030
will have extrapolations there. So it's
still in our textbooks. It still is

6032
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:43,040
still in our textbooks. It still is
 

6033
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,629
still in our textbooks. It still is
there. But but uh

6034
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:44,639
there. But but uh
 

6035
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:47,430
there. But but uh
>> primordial soup model. I hate the soup

6036
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:47,440
>> primordial soup model. I hate the soup
 

6037
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,589
>> primordial soup model. I hate the soup
in the textbooks. Uh that was one of my

6038
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:49,599
in the textbooks. Uh that was one of my
 

6039
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:51,430
in the textbooks. Uh that was one of my
favorite parts of the debate where I

6040
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:51,440
favorite parts of the debate where I
 

6041
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:54,310
favorite parts of the debate where I
proved that he is a lying fraud to his

6042
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:54,320
proved that he is a lying fraud to his
 

6043
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,629
proved that he is a lying fraud to his
face about the textbooks and he shhat

6044
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:56,639
face about the textbooks and he shhat
 

6045
01:52:56,639 --> 01:52:58,870
face about the textbooks and he shhat
his pants and did his clueless uh

6046
01:52:58,870 --> 01:52:58,880
his pants and did his clueless uh
 

6047
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,350
his pants and did his clueless uh
pageantry. That was a glorious moment.

6048
01:53:01,350 --> 01:53:01,360
pageantry. That was a glorious moment.
 

6049
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,830
pageantry. That was a glorious moment.
>> Uh the conversation is beginning to to

6050
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:03,840
>> Uh the conversation is beginning to to
 

6051
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:04,310
>> Uh the conversation is beginning to to
change.

6052
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:04,320
change.
 

6053
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:05,990
change.
>> All right, we're Peter, we're talking

6054
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:06,000
>> All right, we're Peter, we're talking
 

6055
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,550
>> All right, we're Peter, we're talking
somewhat descriptively and maybe even a

6056
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:08,560
somewhat descriptively and maybe even a
 

6057
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,390
somewhat descriptively and maybe even a
bit abstractly about the complexity of

6058
01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:10,400
bit abstractly about the complexity of
 

6059
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,790
bit abstractly about the complexity of
the cell. And I think one of the things

6060
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:12,800
the cell. And I think one of the things
 

6061
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:14,390
the cell. And I think one of the things
that can be very helpful is to actually

6062
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:14,400
that can be very helpful is to actually
 

6063
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,790
that can be very helpful is to actually
see an animation of what's going on in

6064
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:16,800
see an animation of what's going on in
 

6065
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,270
see an animation of what's going on in
the way the digital code in the DNA is

6066
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:19,280
the way the digital code in the DNA is
 

6067
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:20,629
the way the digital code in the DNA is
directing the construction of the

6068
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:20,639
directing the construction of the
 

6069
01:53:20,639 --> 01:53:22,149
directing the construction of the
proteins and the protein machines that

6070
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:22,159
proteins and the protein machines that
 

6071
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:23,750
proteins and the protein machines that
we need to stay alive in that little

6072
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:23,760
we need to stay alive in that little
 

6073
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,550
we need to stay alive in that little
clip you showed of Jim from the story of

6074
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:26,560
clip you showed of Jim from the story of
 

6075
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,189
clip you showed of Jim from the story of
everything film comes right after an

6076
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:29,199
everything film comes right after an
 

6077
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:31,830
everything film comes right after an
animation that shows that. And so that's

6078
01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:31,840
animation that shows that. And so that's
 

6079
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,310
animation that shows that. And so that's
one way without having to do a PhD in

6080
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:34,320
one way without having to do a PhD in
 

6081
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,149
one way without having to do a PhD in
molecular biology, people could get a

6082
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:36,159
molecular biology, people could get a
 

6083
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:37,189
molecular biology, people could get a
little bit of a handle on what we're

6084
01:53:37,189 --> 01:53:37,199
little bit of a handle on what we're
 

6085
01:53:37,199 --> 01:53:38,470
little bit of a handle on what we're
talking that animate.

6086
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:38,480
talking that animate.
 

6087
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:40,229
talking that animate.
>> Watch this cartoon that's like, "Oh my

6088
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:40,239
>> Watch this cartoon that's like, "Oh my
 

6089
01:53:40,239 --> 01:53:42,629
>> Watch this cartoon that's like, "Oh my
god, [\h__\h] is so crazy. Modern modern

6090
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:42,639
god, [\h__\h] is so crazy. Modern modern
 

6091
01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:44,550
god, [\h__\h] is so crazy. Modern modern
life is so crazy. So, how did that come

6092
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:44,560
life is so crazy. So, how did that come
 

6093
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,550
life is so crazy. So, how did that come
about by chance? Don't learn anything.

6094
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:46,560
about by chance? Don't learn anything.
 

6095
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,470
about by chance? Don't learn anything.
Don't learn any science that will very

6096
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:48,480
Don't learn any science that will very
 

6097
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:50,470
Don't learn any science that will very
easily explain to you how this all came

6098
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:50,480
easily explain to you how this all came
 

6099
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:52,310
easily explain to you how this all came
about by naturalistic processes. Just

6100
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:52,320
about by naturalistic processes. Just
 

6101
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,149
about by naturalistic processes. Just
look at movie of crazy thing and go, "Oh

6102
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:54,159
look at movie of crazy thing and go, "Oh
 

6103
01:53:54,159 --> 01:53:56,629
look at movie of crazy thing and go, "Oh
my god, therefore, God

6104
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:56,639
my god, therefore, God
 

6105
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:59,830
my god, therefore, God
is just one of a million different

6106
01:53:59,830 --> 01:53:59,840
is just one of a million different
 

6107
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,669
is just one of a million different
animated things that are happening in a

6108
01:54:01,669 --> 01:54:01,679
animated things that are happening in a
 

6109
01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:04,550
animated things that are happening in a
cell." So, so you can't just solve that.

6110
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:04,560
cell." So, so you can't just solve that.
 

6111
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,790
cell." So, so you can't just solve that.
There's so many other pieces that need

6112
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:06,800
There's so many other pieces that need
 

6113
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,550
There's so many other pieces that need
to be solved in order to have life.

6114
01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:08,560
to be solved in order to have life.
 

6115
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,470
to be solved in order to have life.
>> Wheels within wheels within wheels of

6116
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:10,480
>> Wheels within wheels within wheels of
 

6117
01:54:10,480 --> 01:54:11,189
>> Wheels within wheels within wheels of
complexity.

6118
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:11,199
complexity.
 

6119
01:54:11,199 --> 01:54:13,510
complexity.
>> And it's a matter of perception. You

6120
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:13,520
>> And it's a matter of perception. You
 

6121
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,390
>> And it's a matter of perception. You
quoted the psalm at the beginning, the

6122
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:16,400
quoted the psalm at the beginning, the
 

6123
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,510
quoted the psalm at the beginning, the
heavens declare. That's perception.

6124
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:19,520
heavens declare. That's perception.
 

6125
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,629
heavens declare. That's perception.
And one of the impressive things to my

6126
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:22,639
And one of the impressive things to my
 

6127
01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:26,390
And one of the impressive things to my
mind is the response that a mind is

6128
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:26,400
mind is the response that a mind is
 

6129
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,830
mind is the response that a mind is
behind this is usually a matter of

6130
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:29,840
behind this is usually a matter of
 

6131
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:33,510
behind this is usually a matter of
perception. If you see the word exit

6132
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:33,520
perception. If you see the word exit
 

6133
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,390
perception. If you see the word exit
above a door, it's just four letters.

6134
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:36,400
above a door, it's just four letters.
 

6135
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,709
above a door, it's just four letters.
Very simple. But you immediately know

6136
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:38,719
Very simple. But you immediately know
 

6137
01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:41,270
Very simple. But you immediately know
that whatever processes have been used

6138
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:41,280
that whatever processes have been used
 

6139
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,669
that whatever processes have been used
to create that sign, there's a mind

6140
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:43,679
to create that sign, there's a mind
 

6141
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:47,030
to create that sign, there's a mind
behind it. Why? Humans can make signs.

6142
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:47,040
behind it. Why? Humans can make signs.
 

6143
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,430
behind it. Why? Humans can make signs.
Isn't that crazy? Humans invented

6144
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:49,440
Isn't that crazy? Humans invented
 

6145
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,350
Isn't that crazy? Humans invented
language and signs. Therefore, God

6146
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:51,360
language and signs. Therefore, God
 

6147
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,310
language and signs. Therefore, God
exists. This is the [\h__\h] level. Like,

6148
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:54,320
exists. This is the [\h__\h] level. Like,
 

6149
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,709
exists. This is the [\h__\h] level. Like,
these guys are praised as intellectuals.

6150
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:56,719
these guys are praised as intellectuals.
 

6151
01:54:56,719 --> 01:54:58,629
these guys are praised as intellectuals.
This is the cream of the crop that

6152
01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:58,639
This is the cream of the crop that
 

6153
01:54:58,639 --> 01:55:00,629
This is the cream of the crop that
creationists have. and they say dumb

6154
01:55:00,629 --> 01:55:00,639
creationists have. and they say dumb
 

6155
01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:02,629
creationists have. and they say dumb
[\h__\h] like that. Can you like wrap your

6156
01:55:02,629 --> 01:55:02,639
[\h__\h] like that. Can you like wrap your
 

6157
01:55:02,639 --> 01:55:03,669
[\h__\h] like that. Can you like wrap your
head around that?

6158
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:03,679
head around that?
 

6159
01:55:03,679 --> 01:55:06,070
head around that?
>> Because it conveys meaning it's got four

6160
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:06,080
>> Because it conveys meaning it's got four
 

6161
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,950
>> Because it conveys meaning it's got four
letters. You take the 3 point whatever

6162
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:08,960
letters. You take the 3 point whatever
 

6163
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:13,830
letters. You take the 3 point whatever
billion letters in a DNA strand and many

6164
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:13,840
billion letters in a DNA strand and many
 

6165
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,070
billion letters in a DNA strand and many
of my scientific colleagues just look at

6166
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:16,080
of my scientific colleagues just look at
 

6167
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,790
of my scientific colleagues just look at
it and say chance and necessity. They

6168
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:18,800
it and say chance and necessity. They
 

6169
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,790
it and say chance and necessity. They
never dream of doing that with the word

6170
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:20,800
never dream of doing that with the word
 

6171
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,870
never dream of doing that with the word
exit.

6172
01:55:22,870 --> 01:55:22,880
exit.
 

6173
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,990
exit.
>> Um one more clip from this documentary

6174
01:55:25,990 --> 01:55:26,000
>> Um one more clip from this documentary
 

6175
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,589
>> Um one more clip from this documentary
with the story of everything. There's

6176
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:27,599
with the story of everything. There's
 

6177
01:55:27,599 --> 01:55:29,109
with the story of everything. There's
actually a big problem in evolutionary

6178
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:29,119
actually a big problem in evolutionary
 

6179
01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:31,030
actually a big problem in evolutionary
biology. It's called the problem of

6180
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:31,040
biology. It's called the problem of
 

6181
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:34,229
biology. It's called the problem of
gratuitous beauty.

6182
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:34,239
gratuitous beauty.
 

6183
01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:35,990
gratuitous beauty.
Many organisms have beauty beyond

6184
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:36,000
Many organisms have beauty beyond
 

6185
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,350
Many organisms have beauty beyond
anything that's relevant for their

6186
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:37,360
anything that's relevant for their
 

6187
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:40,390
anything that's relevant for their
survival value.

6188
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:40,400
survival value.
 

6189
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,109
survival value.
>> Gratuitous beauty.

6190
01:55:43,109 --> 01:55:43,119
>> Gratuitous beauty.
 

6191
01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:45,189
>> Gratuitous beauty.
>> Gratuitous. So there's an objective

6192
01:55:45,189 --> 01:55:45,199
>> Gratuitous. So there's an objective
 

6193
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:46,550
>> Gratuitous. So there's an objective
metric of beauty. Now they're

6194
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:46,560
metric of beauty. Now they're
 

6195
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,390
metric of beauty. Now they're
objectively beautiful or is it

6196
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:48,400
objectively beautiful or is it
 

6197
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:51,350
objectively beautiful or is it
subjective? And does that play? It's

6198
01:55:51,350 --> 01:55:51,360
subjective? And does that play? It's
 

6199
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,149
subjective? And does that play? It's
like what? So a hummingbird is is

6200
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:54,159
like what? So a hummingbird is is
 

6201
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,870
like what? So a hummingbird is is
beautiful. Uh, and that pertains to its

6202
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:56,880
beautiful. Uh, and that pertains to its
 

6203
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,030
beautiful. Uh, and that pertains to its
survival. Why? Because of color. Because

6204
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:59,040
survival. Why? Because of color. Because
 

6205
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:00,870
survival. Why? Because of color. Because
that is a nice color. Is there any

6206
01:56:00,870 --> 01:56:00,880
that is a nice color. Is there any
 

6207
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,070
that is a nice color. Is there any
evolutionary basis for certain colors?

6208
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:04,080
evolutionary basis for certain colors?
 

6209
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,189
evolutionary basis for certain colors?
Uh, I think there are, aren't there? Um,

6210
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:07,199
Uh, I think there are, aren't there? Um,
 

6211
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:09,589
Uh, I think there are, aren't there? Um,
so this is more just like this is like,

6212
01:56:09,589 --> 01:56:09,599
so this is more just like this is like,
 

6213
01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:12,790
so this is more just like this is like,
wow, cell is so complex, therefore God.

6214
01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:12,800
wow, cell is so complex, therefore God.
 

6215
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,550
wow, cell is so complex, therefore God.
Wow, things are beautiful, therefore

6216
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:14,560
Wow, things are beautiful, therefore
 

6217
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,950
Wow, things are beautiful, therefore
God. It's [\h__\h] stupid. It's a dumb

6218
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:16,960
God. It's [\h__\h] stupid. It's a dumb
 

6219
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,229
God. It's [\h__\h] stupid. It's a dumb
argument.

6220
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:18,239
argument.
 

6221
01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:21,109
argument.
>> Explain that. Well, it's the idea that

6222
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:21,119
>> Explain that. Well, it's the idea that
 

6223
01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:24,070
>> Explain that. Well, it's the idea that
that organisms have a a beauty that

6224
01:56:24,070 --> 01:56:24,080
that organisms have a a beauty that
 

6225
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,030
that organisms have a a beauty that
doesn't in any way convey anything that

6226
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:27,040
doesn't in any way convey anything that
 

6227
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,350
doesn't in any way convey anything that
helps them in the Darwinian competition

6228
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:29,360
helps them in the Darwinian competition
 

6229
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,510
helps them in the Darwinian competition
for survival. It's unnecessary to help

6230
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:33,520
for survival. It's unnecessary to help
 

6231
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,990
for survival. It's unnecessary to help
account for why they have survived. It's

6232
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:36,000
account for why they have survived. It's
 

6233
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:36,950
account for why they have survived. It's
just there. I love

6234
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:36,960
just there. I love
 

6235
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,950
just there. I love
>> Okay, you showed a bird. You understand

6236
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:38,960
>> Okay, you showed a bird. You understand
 

6237
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,229
>> Okay, you showed a bird. You understand
that all like peacocks and like all of

6238
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:42,239
that all like peacocks and like all of
 

6239
01:56:42,239 --> 01:56:43,910
that all like peacocks and like all of
this the feathers and the colors and

6240
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:43,920
this the feathers and the colors and
 

6241
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,189
this the feathers and the colors and
everything, it's for mating. It serves a

6242
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:47,199
everything, it's for mating. It serves a
 

6243
01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:49,750
everything, it's for mating. It serves a
an evolutionary purpose. It's for

6244
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:49,760
an evolutionary purpose. It's for
 

6245
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:51,910
an evolutionary purpose. It's for
attracting a mate. So, do you have a

6246
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:51,920
attracting a mate. So, do you have a
 

6247
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:53,990
attracting a mate. So, do you have a
better example than a [\h__\h] bird and

6248
01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:54,000
better example than a [\h__\h] bird and
 

6249
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,310
better example than a [\h__\h] bird and
the colors on a bird? Because we

6250
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:56,320
the colors on a bird? Because we
 

6251
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,030
the colors on a bird? Because we
understand that

6252
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:59,040
understand that
 

6253
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,750
understand that
of tropical fish. I love to snorkel in

6254
01:57:01,750 --> 01:57:01,760
of tropical fish. I love to snorkel in
 

6255
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,470
of tropical fish. I love to snorkel in
in Hawaii. And when you look at the

6256
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:04,480
in Hawaii. And when you look at the
 

6257
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,870
in Hawaii. And when you look at the
patterns on the fish, it's really hard

6258
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:06,880
patterns on the fish, it's really hard
 

6259
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:10,470
patterns on the fish, it's really hard
to believe that well, this the Hawaiian

6260
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:10,480
to believe that well, this the Hawaiian
 

6261
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,550
to believe that well, this the Hawaiian
trigger fish has exactly that. There's

6262
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:12,560
trigger fish has exactly that. There's
 

6263
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,310
trigger fish has exactly that. There's
one even called the Picasso trigger

6264
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:14,320
one even called the Picasso trigger
 

6265
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:15,910
one even called the Picasso trigger
fish. It's so beautifully painted.

6266
01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:15,920
fish. It's so beautifully painted.
 

6267
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,350
fish. It's so beautifully painted.
There's these all these different

6268
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:17,360
There's these all these different
 

6269
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,109
There's these all these different
patterns and and and

6270
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:19,119
patterns and and and
 

6271
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:20,709
patterns and and and
>> you're literally showing that in front

6272
01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:20,719
>> you're literally showing that in front
 

6273
01:57:20,719 --> 01:57:23,270
>> you're literally showing that in front
of the coral that is of similar color.

6274
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:23,280
of the coral that is of similar color.
 

6275
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,350
of the coral that is of similar color.
Uh it's called [\h__\h] camouflage,

6276
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:25,360
Uh it's called [\h__\h] camouflage,
 

6277
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:26,470
Uh it's called [\h__\h] camouflage,
[\h__\h]

6278
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:26,480
[\h__\h]
 

6279
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,629
[\h__\h]
>> And designs that really seem to have

6280
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:28,639
>> And designs that really seem to have
 

6281
01:57:28,639 --> 01:57:30,550
>> And designs that really seem to have
absolutely nothing to do with whether

6282
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:30,560
absolutely nothing to do with whether
 

6283
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,149
absolutely nothing to do with whether
they're they're going to survive or not.

6284
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:32,159
they're they're going to survive or not.
 

6285
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:33,430
they're they're going to survive or not.
Some of them are so brightly colored

6286
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:33,440
Some of them are so brightly colored
 

6287
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:34,550
Some of them are so brightly colored
that they're almost saying, "Come eat

6288
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:34,560
that they're almost saying, "Come eat
 

6289
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,229
that they're almost saying, "Come eat
me. Eat me." Uh they're not really

6290
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:36,239
me. Eat me." Uh they're not really
 

6291
01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:37,830
me. Eat me." Uh they're not really
helping in the in the process of

6292
01:57:37,830 --> 01:57:37,840
helping in the in the process of
 

6293
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,270
helping in the in the process of
survival. They seem to suggest that

6294
01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:39,280
survival. They seem to suggest that
 

6295
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,990
survival. They seem to suggest that
perhaps the creator was not only a good

6296
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:42,000
perhaps the creator was not only a good
 

6297
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,390
perhaps the creator was not only a good
software programmer but also a great

6298
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:44,400
software programmer but also a great
 

6299
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:45,109
software programmer but also a great
artist.

6300
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:45,119
artist.
 

6301
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,510
artist.
>> God made pretty fish for our enjoyment

6302
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:47,520
>> God made pretty fish for our enjoyment
 

6303
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,109
>> God made pretty fish for our enjoyment
so that we could go, "Ooh, look at the

6304
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:49,119
so that we could go, "Ooh, look at the
 

6305
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:51,589
so that we could go, "Ooh, look at the
pretty fish." No. Can't have anything to

6306
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:51,599
pretty fish." No. Can't have anything to
 

6307
01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:53,830
pretty fish." No. Can't have anything to
do with mating, camouflage, or things

6308
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:53,840
do with mating, camouflage, or things
 

6309
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,149
do with mating, camouflage, or things
that actually make sense. No. Can't

6310
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:56,159
that actually make sense. No. Can't
 

6311
01:57:56,159 --> 01:57:57,430
that actually make sense. No. Can't
possibly be that.

6312
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:57,440
possibly be that.
 

6313
01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:58,870
possibly be that.
>> And you can say the same about

6314
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:58,880
>> And you can say the same about
 

6315
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,669
>> And you can say the same about
mathematics and art and music. Well,

6316
01:58:01,669 --> 01:58:01,679
mathematics and art and music. Well,
 

6317
01:58:01,679 --> 01:58:01,990
mathematics and art and music. Well,
okay.

6318
01:58:01,990 --> 01:58:02,000
okay.
 

6319
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,669
okay.
>> They're not necessary for survival.

6320
01:58:03,669 --> 01:58:03,679
>> They're not necessary for survival.
 

6321
01:58:03,679 --> 01:58:04,950
>> They're not necessary for survival.
>> So, let me ask you, let me ask you that.

6322
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:04,960
>> So, let me ask you, let me ask you that.
 

6323
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:06,709
>> So, let me ask you, let me ask you that.
Here we are sitting in Saltsburg, the

6324
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:06,719
Here we are sitting in Saltsburg, the
 

6325
01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:09,189
Here we are sitting in Saltsburg, the
hometown of Mozart. Yeah.

6326
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:09,199
hometown of Mozart. Yeah.
 

6327
01:58:09,199 --> 01:58:11,430
hometown of Mozart. Yeah.
>> If you are an evolutionist, evol

6328
01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:11,440
>> If you are an evolutionist, evol
 

6329
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,910
>> If you are an evolutionist, evol
whatever the term is Darwinist,

6330
01:58:13,910 --> 01:58:13,920
whatever the term is Darwinist,
 

6331
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,950
whatever the term is Darwinist,
>> how do you explain the ser the

6332
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:16,960
>> how do you explain the ser the
 

6333
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,990
>> how do you explain the ser the
evolutionary process that produces

6334
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:20,000
evolutionary process that produces
 

6335
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,030
evolutionary process that produces
Mozart?

6336
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:21,040
Mozart?
 

6337
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:22,550
Mozart?
>> Very badly.

6338
01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:22,560
>> Very badly.
 

6339
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:24,390
>> Very badly.
>> No, come on. Do your

6340
01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:24,400
>> No, come on. Do your
 

6341
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,030
>> No, come on. Do your
>> How could evolution make Mozart? Uh,

6342
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:27,040
>> How could evolution make Mozart? Uh,
 

6343
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,589
>> How could evolution make Mozart? Uh,
evolution made smart brains for

6344
01:58:29,589 --> 01:58:29,599
evolution made smart brains for
 

6345
01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:32,310
evolution made smart brains for
survival. And another thing that a smart

6346
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:32,320
survival. And another thing that a smart
 

6347
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:36,070
survival. And another thing that a smart
brain can do is make nice sounds. Uh,

6348
01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:36,080
brain can do is make nice sounds. Uh,
 

6349
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,390
brain can do is make nice sounds. Uh,
it's really not that hard to understand.

6350
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:38,400
it's really not that hard to understand.
 

6351
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,470
it's really not that hard to understand.
Uh, don't bring Mozart into this. He's

6352
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:40,480
Uh, don't bring Mozart into this. He's
 

6353
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,149
Uh, don't bring Mozart into this. He's
my favorite composer of all time. [\h__\h]

6354
01:58:42,149 --> 01:58:42,159
my favorite composer of all time. [\h__\h]
 

6355
01:58:42,159 --> 01:58:43,030
my favorite composer of all time. [\h__\h]
you guys.

6356
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:43,040
you guys.
 

6357
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:44,950
you guys.
>> Your best is there. If you were, if you

6358
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:44,960
>> Your best is there. If you were, if you
 

6359
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:46,790
>> Your best is there. If you were, if you
were forced to argue for the other side,

6360
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:46,800
were forced to argue for the other side,
 

6361
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:47,750
were forced to argue for the other side,
what would you say?

6362
01:58:47,750 --> 01:58:47,760
what would you say?
 

6363
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:51,750
what would you say?
>> Well, you must say if there is no God

6364
01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:51,760
>> Well, you must say if there is no God
 

6365
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,270
>> Well, you must say if there is no God
behind this universe, you are forced by

6366
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:55,280
behind this universe, you are forced by
 

6367
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,910
behind this universe, you are forced by
your worldview to say it must have

6368
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:57,920
your worldview to say it must have
 

6369
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:59,510
your worldview to say it must have
happened gradually through

6370
01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:59,520
happened gradually through
 

6371
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,470
happened gradually through
infiniteesimal steps over long periods

6372
01:59:02,470 --> 01:59:02,480
infiniteesimal steps over long periods
 

6373
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,270
infiniteesimal steps over long periods
of time. And you must say that driven by

6374
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:05,280
of time. And you must say that driven by
 

6375
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,030
of time. And you must say that driven by
your worldviews. Nothing to do with

6376
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:07,040
your worldviews. Nothing to do with
 

6377
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,589
your worldviews. Nothing to do with
science or observation or anything else.

6378
01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:09,599
science or observation or anything else.
 

6379
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:12,310
science or observation or anything else.
>> No, we couldn't possibly be arguing uh

6380
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:12,320
>> No, we couldn't possibly be arguing uh
 

6381
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,310
>> No, we couldn't possibly be arguing uh
science based on all the science that

6382
01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:14,320
science based on all the science that
 

6383
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,950
science based on all the science that
we've done. [\h__\h] [\h__\h]

6384
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:16,960
we've done. [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
 

6385
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,910
we've done. [\h__\h] [\h__\h]
>> It's the only logical solution. And that

6386
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:19,920
>> It's the only logical solution. And that
 

6387
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,229
>> It's the only logical solution. And that
has always been a big problem for me

6388
01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:22,239
has always been a big problem for me
 

6389
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:24,629
has always been a big problem for me
that if you're sitting with an atheist

6390
01:59:24,629 --> 01:59:24,639
that if you're sitting with an atheist
 

6391
01:59:24,639 --> 01:59:28,070
that if you're sitting with an atheist
hat on, you're forced into this. And so

6392
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:28,080
hat on, you're forced into this. And so
 

6393
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:28,950
hat on, you're forced into this. And so
therefore, a lot of

6394
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:28,960
therefore, a lot of
 

6395
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,470
therefore, a lot of
>> And that's not scientific.

6396
01:59:30,470 --> 01:59:30,480
>> And that's not scientific.
 

6397
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,470
>> And that's not scientific.
>> Yes, it's not scientific. It's simply

6398
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:32,480
>> Yes, it's not scientific. It's simply
 

6399
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,149
>> Yes, it's not scientific. It's simply
your belief system.

6400
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:34,159
your belief system.
 

6401
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:36,629
your belief system.
>> Science isn't scientific, but our

6402
01:59:36,629 --> 01:59:36,639
>> Science isn't scientific, but our
 

6403
01:59:36,639 --> 01:59:39,430
>> Science isn't scientific, but our
baseless belief system is science

6404
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:39,440
baseless belief system is science
 

6405
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,669
baseless belief system is science
because we use science words and deny

6406
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:41,679
because we use science words and deny
 

6407
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:44,149
because we use science words and deny
science while doing so. The [\h__\h]

6408
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:44,159
science while doing so. The [\h__\h]
 

6409
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:48,149
science while doing so. The [\h__\h]
upside down clown show of apologists. It

6410
01:59:48,149 --> 01:59:48,159
upside down clown show of apologists. It
 

6411
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:50,390
upside down clown show of apologists. It
just never ceases to amaze me, right?

6412
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:50,400
just never ceases to amaze me, right?
 

6413
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,149
just never ceases to amaze me, right?
Their blind faith is science because

6414
01:59:52,149 --> 01:59:52,159
Their blind faith is science because
 

6415
01:59:52,159 --> 01:59:54,950
Their blind faith is science because
they say so. And science is blind faith

6416
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:54,960
they say so. And science is blind faith
 

6417
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:56,709
they say so. And science is blind faith
because they say so. It's [\h__\h]

6418
01:59:56,709 --> 01:59:56,719
because they say so. It's [\h__\h]
 

6419
01:59:56,719 --> 01:59:57,750
because they say so. It's [\h__\h]
bananas.

6420
01:59:57,750 --> 01:59:57,760
bananas.
 

6421
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:02,149
bananas.
>> I see. So, um, could I I thank you very

6422
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:02,159
>> I see. So, um, could I I thank you very
 

6423
02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:04,550
>> I see. So, um, could I I thank you very
much for the seminar, but I'm just

6424
02:00:04,550 --> 02:00:04,560
much for the seminar, but I'm just
 

6425
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,350
much for the seminar, but I'm just
wondering

6426
02:00:07,350 --> 02:00:07,360
wondering
 

6427
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,270
wondering
this may get a little bit I'm just going

6428
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:09,280
this may get a little bit I'm just going
 

6429
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,950
this may get a little bit I'm just going
to ask you about your personal

6430
02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:10,960
to ask you about your personal
 

6431
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:13,350
to ask you about your personal
reflections, your personal responses to

6432
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:13,360
reflections, your personal responses to
 

6433
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:16,629
reflections, your personal responses to
all of this. How well here here's here's

6434
02:00:16,629 --> 02:00:16,639
all of this. How well here here's here's
 

6435
02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:19,109
all of this. How well here here's here's
Isaac Newton in the general skull and it

6436
02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:19,119
Isaac Newton in the general skull and it
 

6437
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:21,510
Isaac Newton in the general skull and it
concludes the Prancipia. quote, "This

6438
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:21,520
concludes the Prancipia. quote, "This
 

6439
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,270
concludes the Prancipia. quote, "This
most beautiful system of the sun,

6440
02:00:23,270 --> 02:00:23,280
most beautiful system of the sun,
 

6441
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,229
most beautiful system of the sun,
planets, and comets could only proceed

6442
02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:26,239
planets, and comets could only proceed
 

6443
02:00:26,239 --> 02:00:28,390
planets, and comets could only proceed
from the council and dominion of an

6444
02:00:28,390 --> 02:00:28,400
from the council and dominion of an
 

6445
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:29,990
from the council and dominion of an
intelligent and powerful

6446
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:30,000
intelligent and powerful
 

6447
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,270
intelligent and powerful
>> powerful being."

6448
02:00:31,270 --> 02:00:31,280
>> powerful being."
 

6449
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:33,189
>> powerful being."
>> Newton was really smart and he believed

6450
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:33,199
>> Newton was really smart and he believed
 

6451
02:00:33,199 --> 02:00:35,990
>> Newton was really smart and he believed
in God. So, God exists.

6452
02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:36,000
in God. So, God exists.
 

6453
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,149
in God. So, God exists.
>> This they they actually parade this [\h__\h]

6454
02:00:38,149 --> 02:00:38,159
>> This they they actually parade this [\h__\h]
 

6455
02:00:38,159 --> 02:00:40,709
>> This they they actually parade this [\h__\h]
around. He lived 400 years ago before

6456
02:00:40,709 --> 02:00:40,719
around. He lived 400 years ago before
 

6457
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:42,950
around. He lived 400 years ago before
literally all of biology and modern

6458
02:00:42,950 --> 02:00:42,960
literally all of biology and modern
 

6459
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,350
literally all of biology and modern
biology and geology and all of this

6460
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:45,360
biology and geology and all of this
 

6461
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,189
biology and geology and all of this
other information that helps us

6462
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:47,199
other information that helps us
 

6463
02:00:47,199 --> 02:00:49,030
other information that helps us
understand how all of this [\h__\h] came

6464
02:00:49,030 --> 02:00:49,040
understand how all of this [\h__\h] came
 

6465
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,109
understand how all of this [\h__\h] came
about through naturalistic processes. He

6466
02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:51,119
about through naturalistic processes. He
 

6467
02:00:51,119 --> 02:00:54,709
about through naturalistic processes. He
is pre borderline he's at the at the at

6468
02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:54,719
is pre borderline he's at the at the at
 

6469
02:00:54,719 --> 02:00:57,430
is pre borderline he's at the at the at
the earliest the earliest era of modern

6470
02:00:57,430 --> 02:00:57,440
the earliest the earliest era of modern
 

6471
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:00,229
the earliest the earliest era of modern
science. Uh and he believed in God so

6472
02:01:00,229 --> 02:01:00,239
science. Uh and he believed in God so
 

6473
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:02,629
science. Uh and he believed in God so
God must be real. Uh let's not point at

6474
02:01:02,629 --> 02:01:02,639
God must be real. Uh let's not point at
 

6475
02:01:02,639 --> 02:01:04,870
God must be real. Uh let's not point at
brilliant atheists and say therefore God

6476
02:01:04,870 --> 02:01:04,880
brilliant atheists and say therefore God
 

6477
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,189
brilliant atheists and say therefore God
can't be real. Uh that wouldn't be this

6478
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:07,199
can't be real. Uh that wouldn't be this
 

6479
02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:09,990
can't be real. Uh that wouldn't be this
exact same argument at all. Um yeah,

6480
02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:10,000
exact same argument at all. Um yeah,
 

6481
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,550
exact same argument at all. Um yeah,
just uh look, creationists, you know,

6482
02:01:12,550 --> 02:01:12,560
just uh look, creationists, you know,
 

6483
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,390
just uh look, creationists, you know,
will always do this. They'll go, "Here's

6484
02:01:14,390 --> 02:01:14,400
will always do this. They'll go, "Here's
 

6485
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,030
will always do this. They'll go, "Here's
a list of ancient scientists who

6486
02:01:17,030 --> 02:01:17,040
a list of ancient scientists who
 

6487
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:19,109
a list of ancient scientists who
believed in God, therefore God must be

6488
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:19,119
believed in God, therefore God must be
 

6489
02:01:19,119 --> 02:01:21,430
believed in God, therefore God must be
real." Uh talk about a [\h__\h] argument

6490
02:01:21,430 --> 02:01:21,440
real." Uh talk about a [\h__\h] argument
 

6491
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,910
real." Uh talk about a [\h__\h] argument
from from authority. Pathetic. Pathetic

6492
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:23,920
from from authority. Pathetic. Pathetic
 

6493
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:25,430
from from authority. Pathetic. Pathetic
that you would even try to do this.

6494
02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:25,440
that you would even try to do this.
 

6495
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:26,070
that you would even try to do this.
Pathetic.

6496
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:26,080
Pathetic.
 

6497
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,870
Pathetic.
>> Yes. All right. Intelligence

6498
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:28,880
>> Yes. All right. Intelligence
 

6499
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,229
>> Yes. All right. Intelligence
powerful. Got it. Can we get from the

6500
02:01:32,229 --> 02:01:32,239
powerful. Got it. Can we get from the
 

6501
02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:34,709
powerful. Got it. Can we get from the
science to a being that is in some ways

6502
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:34,719
science to a being that is in some ways
 

6503
02:01:34,719 --> 02:01:38,470
science to a being that is in some ways
in some way or another loving, merciful?

6504
02:01:38,470 --> 02:01:38,480
in some way or another loving, merciful?
 

6505
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:42,070
in some way or another loving, merciful?
Can the science get us?

6506
02:01:42,070 --> 02:01:42,080
Can the science get us?
 

6507
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,790
Can the science get us?
Can the science get us where we

6508
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:44,800
Can the science get us where we
 

6509
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:47,109
Can the science get us where we
eventually need to go? Because this is

6510
02:01:47,109 --> 02:01:47,119
eventually need to go? Because this is
 

6511
02:01:47,119 --> 02:01:49,270
eventually need to go? Because this is
we're we're pedaling propaganda for

6512
02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:49,280
we're we're pedaling propaganda for
 

6513
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,510
we're we're pedaling propaganda for
Christian nationalists, not Hindu

6514
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:51,520
Christian nationalists, not Hindu
 

6515
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,350
Christian nationalists, not Hindu
nationalists or Buddhists or anything

6516
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:53,360
nationalists or Buddhists or anything
 

6517
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,589
nationalists or Buddhists or anything
like that. We are trying to get to

6518
02:01:55,589 --> 02:01:55,599
like that. We are trying to get to
 

6519
02:01:55,599 --> 02:01:58,790
like that. We are trying to get to
proving that the Christian God exists.

6520
02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:58,800
proving that the Christian God exists.
 

6521
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,030
proving that the Christian God exists.
So, we've done all of this fake science

6522
02:02:01,030 --> 02:02:01,040
So, we've done all of this fake science
 

6523
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:04,950
So, we've done all of this fake science
to to to to prove that a god exists. But

6524
02:02:04,950 --> 02:02:04,960
to to to to prove that a god exists. But
 

6525
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,870
to to to to prove that a god exists. But
how can we prove that it's the Christian

6526
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:06,880
how can we prove that it's the Christian
 

6527
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,030
how can we prove that it's the Christian
God? Can you guys help us with that?

6528
02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:09,040
God? Can you guys help us with that?
 

6529
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,790
God? Can you guys help us with that?
With your science, with your big science

6530
02:02:10,790 --> 02:02:10,800
With your science, with your big science
 

6531
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,350
With your science, with your big science
brains, convince me that this God, that

6532
02:02:13,350 --> 02:02:13,360
brains, convince me that this God, that
 

6533
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,430
brains, convince me that this God, that
this designer that you're talking about

6534
02:02:15,430 --> 02:02:15,440
this designer that you're talking about
 

6535
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,030
this designer that you're talking about
is the Christian God because obviously

6536
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:17,040
is the Christian God because obviously
 

6537
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,070
is the Christian God because obviously
it is. Duh, right? We're all Christians

6538
02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:20,080
it is. Duh, right? We're all Christians
 

6539
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:21,830
it is. Duh, right? We're all Christians
and so it has to be the Christian God.

6540
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:21,840
and so it has to be the Christian God.
 

6541
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,629
and so it has to be the Christian God.
But help me do some more propaganda to

6542
02:02:24,629 --> 02:02:24,639
But help me do some more propaganda to
 

6543
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:27,750
But help me do some more propaganda to
to get me there. Come on. to God as we

6544
02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:27,760
to get me there. Come on. to God as we
 

6545
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,830
to get me there. Come on. to God as we
all as many religions suggest he is. Is

6546
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:31,840
all as many religions suggest he is. Is
 

6547
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:33,830
all as many religions suggest he is. Is
there any or or or do we need to just

6548
02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:33,840
there any or or or do we need to just
 

6549
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,270
there any or or or do we need to just
say no no no no no we're not going

6550
02:02:35,270 --> 02:02:35,280
say no no no no no we're not going
 

6551
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,229
say no no no no no we're not going
there. Intelligent design is simply a

6552
02:02:38,229 --> 02:02:38,239
there. Intelligent design is simply a
 

6553
02:02:38,239 --> 02:02:42,149
there. Intelligent design is simply a
very limited finding that

6554
02:02:42,149 --> 02:02:42,159
very limited finding that
 

6555
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:44,870
very limited finding that
information is necessary for certain

6556
02:02:44,870 --> 02:02:44,880
information is necessary for certain
 

6557
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,030
information is necessary for certain
scientific for certain processes that we

6558
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:47,040
scientific for certain processes that we
 

6559
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:49,830
scientific for certain processes that we
observe. Information comes from minds.

6560
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:49,840
observe. Information comes from minds.
 

6561
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,990
observe. Information comes from minds.
That's as far as we're going. How how do

6562
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:52,000
That's as far as we're going. How how do
 

6563
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:53,750
That's as far as we're going. How how do
you handle this problem? Well, my

6564
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:53,760
you handle this problem? Well, my
 

6565
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,950
you handle this problem? Well, my
initial reaction is the one that uh the

6566
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:56,960
initial reaction is the one that uh the
 

6567
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:00,470
initial reaction is the one that uh the
Christian apostle Paul mentions that

6568
02:03:00,470 --> 02:03:00,480
Christian apostle Paul mentions that
 

6569
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,669
Christian apostle Paul mentions that
looking at the world, the universe, we

6570
02:03:03,669 --> 02:03:03,679
looking at the world, the universe, we
 

6571
02:03:03,679 --> 02:03:06,870
looking at the world, the universe, we
can reasonably conclude that there is an

6572
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:06,880
can reasonably conclude that there is an
 

6573
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:08,950
can reasonably conclude that there is an
intelligent mind behind it. We have

6574
02:03:08,950 --> 02:03:08,960
intelligent mind behind it. We have
 

6575
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,750
intelligent mind behind it. We have
intelligent minds after all and that it

6576
02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:11,760
intelligent minds after all and that it
 

6577
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,629
intelligent minds after all and that it
shows a beauty at points beyond itself.

6578
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:14,639
shows a beauty at points beyond itself.
 

6579
02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:17,030
shows a beauty at points beyond itself.
But then you come to a completely

6580
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:17,040
But then you come to a completely
 

6581
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,910
But then you come to a completely
different source of knowledge. If you go

6582
02:03:19,910 --> 02:03:19,920
different source of knowledge. If you go
 

6583
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,070
different source of knowledge. If you go
back to Francis Bacon, who's

6584
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:22,080
back to Francis Bacon, who's
 

6585
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:23,990
back to Francis Bacon, who's
>> so the answer is no. No, science cannot

6586
02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:24,000
>> so the answer is no. No, science cannot
 

6587
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:26,709
>> so the answer is no. No, science cannot
help us here. We are now going to just

6588
02:03:26,709 --> 02:03:26,719
help us here. We are now going to just
 

6589
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:29,270
help us here. We are now going to just
be doing uh Christian run-of-the-mill

6590
02:03:29,270 --> 02:03:29,280
be doing uh Christian run-of-the-mill
 

6591
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,709
be doing uh Christian run-of-the-mill
Christian apologetics without any

6592
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:30,719
Christian apologetics without any
 

6593
02:03:30,719 --> 02:03:31,910
Christian apologetics without any
science in it. Thanks.

6594
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:31,920
science in it. Thanks.
 

6595
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,229
science in it. Thanks.
>> Often called the father of science. He

6596
02:03:34,229 --> 02:03:34,239
>> Often called the father of science. He
 

6597
02:03:34,239 --> 02:03:37,510
>> Often called the father of science. He
talked about two books. God has given us

6598
02:03:37,510 --> 02:03:37,520
talked about two books. God has given us
 

6599
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:39,830
talked about two books. God has given us
the book of nature and the book of

6600
02:03:39,830 --> 02:03:39,840
the book of nature and the book of
 

6601
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:42,390
the book of nature and the book of
revelation in the Bible. And it seems

6602
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:42,400
revelation in the Bible. And it seems
 

6603
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:45,189
revelation in the Bible. And it seems
perfectly logical to me. If the science

6604
02:03:45,189 --> 02:03:45,199
perfectly logical to me. If the science
 

6605
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:47,910
perfectly logical to me. If the science
is pointing towards an intelligence, the

6606
02:03:47,910 --> 02:03:47,920
is pointing towards an intelligence, the
 

6607
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:51,510
is pointing towards an intelligence, the
logical question to ask, has

6608
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:51,520
logical question to ask, has
 

6609
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:55,589
logical question to ask, has
God revealed himself? Now, you see, when

6610
02:03:55,589 --> 02:03:55,599
God revealed himself? Now, you see, when
 

6611
02:03:55,599 --> 02:03:58,070
God revealed himself? Now, you see, when
it comes to me getting to know you,

6612
02:03:58,070 --> 02:03:58,080
it comes to me getting to know you,
 

6613
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:01,350
it comes to me getting to know you,
Peter, I could put you and analyze your

6614
02:04:01,350 --> 02:04:01,360
Peter, I could put you and analyze your
 

6615
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:04,390
Peter, I could put you and analyze your
brain waves. I could MRI scan you. I'll

6616
02:04:04,390 --> 02:04:04,400
brain waves. I could MRI scan you. I'll
 

6617
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,550
brain waves. I could MRI scan you. I'll
never get to know you unless you reveal

6618
02:04:06,550 --> 02:04:06,560
never get to know you unless you reveal
 

6619
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:08,790
never get to know you unless you reveal
yourself to me. Now, if you reveal

6620
02:04:08,790 --> 02:04:08,800
yourself to me. Now, if you reveal
 

6621
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:11,510
yourself to me. Now, if you reveal
yourself, usually in speech, of course,

6622
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:11,520
yourself, usually in speech, of course,
 

6623
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,390
yourself, usually in speech, of course,
my mind keeps working. I reason and see

6624
02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:14,400
my mind keeps working. I reason and see
 

6625
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,550
my mind keeps working. I reason and see
that what you're saying makes sense. And

6626
02:04:16,550 --> 02:04:16,560
that what you're saying makes sense. And
 

6627
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,709
that what you're saying makes sense. And
it seems to me the analogy is perfectly

6628
02:04:18,709 --> 02:04:18,719
it seems to me the analogy is perfectly
 

6629
02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:21,750
it seems to me the analogy is perfectly
justified. God claims to have revealed

6630
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:21,760
justified. God claims to have revealed
 

6631
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:25,030
justified. God claims to have revealed
himself in his word and in Christ. And

6632
02:04:25,030 --> 02:04:25,040
himself in his word and in Christ. And
 

6633
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,589
himself in his word and in Christ. And
we don't stop our rational processes

6634
02:04:27,589 --> 02:04:27,599
we don't stop our rational processes
 

6635
02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:30,390
we don't stop our rational processes
when we see that revelation. We need our

6636
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:30,400
when we see that revelation. We need our
 

6637
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,950
when we see that revelation. We need our
minds to read it and understand it. And

6638
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:32,960
minds to read it and understand it. And
 

6639
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,550
minds to read it and understand it. And
it's when those two worlds come

6640
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:34,560
it's when those two worlds come
 

6641
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,430
it's when those two worlds come
together, our observation of the world

6642
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:37,440
together, our observation of the world
 

6643
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:41,910
together, our observation of the world
getting us as far as a god, a creator.

6644
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:41,920
getting us as far as a god, a creator.
 

6645
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,669
getting us as far as a god, a creator.
But now at the level of revelation and

6646
02:04:45,669 --> 02:04:45,679
But now at the level of revelation and
 

6647
02:04:45,679 --> 02:04:47,589
But now at the level of revelation and
another thing, our own personal

6648
02:04:47,589 --> 02:04:47,599
another thing, our own personal
 

6649
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:51,669
another thing, our own personal
experience as persons reacting to all of

6650
02:04:51,669 --> 02:04:51,679
experience as persons reacting to all of
 

6651
02:04:51,679 --> 02:04:54,870
experience as persons reacting to all of
this and to scripture. All of that goes

6652
02:04:54,870 --> 02:04:54,880
this and to scripture. All of that goes
 

6653
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,270
this and to scripture. All of that goes
together and focuses on one thing.

6654
02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:57,280
together and focuses on one thing.
 

6655
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,030
together and focuses on one thing.
>> So don't worry idiots. You don't need

6656
02:04:59,030 --> 02:04:59,040
>> So don't worry idiots. You don't need
 

6657
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,270
>> So don't worry idiots. You don't need
any more bogus science talk. Now you can

6658
02:05:01,270 --> 02:05:01,280
any more bogus science talk. Now you can
 

6659
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,109
any more bogus science talk. Now you can
just rely on your own intuition that

6660
02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:03,119
just rely on your own intuition that
 

6661
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:04,629
just rely on your own intuition that
told you that it must be the Christian

6662
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:04,639
told you that it must be the Christian
 

6663
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:06,070
told you that it must be the Christian
God that you were brainwashed into

6664
02:05:06,070 --> 02:05:06,080
God that you were brainwashed into
 

6665
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,149
God that you were brainwashed into
believing. Because why go through the

6666
02:05:08,149 --> 02:05:08,159
believing. Because why go through the
 

6667
02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:10,709
believing. Because why go through the
process of acknowledging that it that

6668
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:10,719
process of acknowledging that it that
 

6669
02:05:10,719 --> 02:05:12,790
process of acknowledging that it that
it's no different from believing in Zeus

6670
02:05:12,790 --> 02:05:12,800
it's no different from believing in Zeus
 

6671
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,030
it's no different from believing in Zeus
or Vishnu or whatever or Thor or

6672
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:15,040
or Vishnu or whatever or Thor or
 

6673
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:17,430
or Vishnu or whatever or Thor or
whatever the [\h__\h] other kind of gods

6674
02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:17,440
whatever the [\h__\h] other kind of gods
 

6675
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,229
whatever the [\h__\h] other kind of gods
from all the various mythologies uh that

6676
02:05:20,229 --> 02:05:20,239
from all the various mythologies uh that
 

6677
02:05:20,239 --> 02:05:22,229
from all the various mythologies uh that
have existed over time. Just it's going

6678
02:05:22,229 --> 02:05:22,239
have existed over time. Just it's going
 

6679
02:05:22,239 --> 02:05:24,149
have existed over time. Just it's going
to be the Christian God because I don't

6680
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:24,159
to be the Christian God because I don't
 

6681
02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:26,310
to be the Christian God because I don't
know he said some [\h__\h] It's in a book.

6682
02:05:26,310 --> 02:05:26,320
know he said some [\h__\h] It's in a book.
 

6683
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:28,390
know he said some [\h__\h] It's in a book.
The book says he said some [\h__\h] None of

6684
02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:28,400
The book says he said some [\h__\h] None of
 

6685
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:30,070
The book says he said some [\h__\h] None of
us have heard him since but he used to

6686
02:05:30,070 --> 02:05:30,080
us have heard him since but he used to
 

6687
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:31,830
us have heard him since but he used to
talk all the time. It's got to be that

6688
02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:31,840
talk all the time. It's got to be that
 

6689
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:33,830
talk all the time. It's got to be that
God. That's uh that's about the level of

6690
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:33,840
God. That's uh that's about the level of
 

6691
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:35,350
God. That's uh that's about the level of
sophistication we're getting from Lennox

6692
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:35,360
sophistication we're getting from Lennox
 

6693
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,310
sophistication we're getting from Lennox
here. And it's the cumulative effect of

6694
02:05:38,310 --> 02:05:38,320
here. And it's the cumulative effect of
 

6695
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,990
here. And it's the cumulative effect of
that

6696
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:40,000
that
 

6697
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,149
that
that means I'm sitting talking to you as

6698
02:05:42,149 --> 02:05:42,159
that means I'm sitting talking to you as
 

6699
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:44,870
that means I'm sitting talking to you as
a convinced Christian and a person

6700
02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:44,880
a convinced Christian and a person
 

6701
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,350
a convinced Christian and a person
convinced of the value of science.

6702
02:05:47,350 --> 02:05:47,360
convinced of the value of science.
 

6703
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:50,390
convinced of the value of science.
>> Jim, how do you handle

6704
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:50,400
>> Jim, how do you handle
 

6705
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,510
>> Jim, how do you handle
how do I'll put it another way. You say

6706
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:53,520
how do I'll put it another way. You say
 

6707
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,750
how do I'll put it another way. You say
in in this documentary, I think it's

6708
02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:55,760
in in this documentary, I think it's
 

6709
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,510
in in this documentary, I think it's
your voice that's quoted, that in the

6710
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:57,520
your voice that's quoted, that in the
 

6711
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:01,270
your voice that's quoted, that in the
earlier times, Galileo, Kepler, Newton,

6712
02:06:01,270 --> 02:06:01,280
earlier times, Galileo, Kepler, Newton,
 

6713
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,390
earlier times, Galileo, Kepler, Newton,
all these men of science

6714
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:04,400
all these men of science
 

6715
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:06,390
all these men of science
took for granted, as all of humankind

6716
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:06,400
took for granted, as all of humankind
 

6717
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,550
took for granted, as all of humankind
seems to have done for millennia, that

6718
02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:08,560
seems to have done for millennia, that
 

6719
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:11,109
seems to have done for millennia, that
there was a creator. All right?

6720
02:06:11,109 --> 02:06:11,119
there was a creator. All right?
 

6721
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:13,910
there was a creator. All right?
>> Can a scientist in the year 2025 talk

6722
02:06:13,910 --> 02:06:13,920
>> Can a scientist in the year 2025 talk
 

6723
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:15,109
>> Can a scientist in the year 2025 talk
that way?

6724
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:15,119
that way?
 

6725
02:06:15,119 --> 02:06:17,830
that way?
>> Look, we used to all believe in God

6726
02:06:17,830 --> 02:06:17,840
>> Look, we used to all believe in God
 

6727
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,589
>> Look, we used to all believe in God
because we didn't understand anything

6728
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:19,599
because we didn't understand anything
 

6729
02:06:19,599 --> 02:06:21,669
because we didn't understand anything
about the universe. How could you how

6730
02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:21,679
about the universe. How could you how
 

6731
02:06:21,679 --> 02:06:25,109
about the universe. How could you how
could you conceive of life evolving from

6732
02:06:25,109 --> 02:06:25,119
could you conceive of life evolving from
 

6733
02:06:25,119 --> 02:06:27,589
could you conceive of life evolving from
a common unisellular ancestor that came

6734
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:27,599
a common unisellular ancestor that came
 

6735
02:06:27,599 --> 02:06:29,750
a common unisellular ancestor that came
about by naturalistic processes until

6736
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:29,760
about by naturalistic processes until
 

6737
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,430
about by naturalistic processes until
that science has been done and

6738
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:31,440
that science has been done and
 

6739
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:33,990
that science has been done and
substantiated? Uh you you don't have

6740
02:06:33,990 --> 02:06:34,000
substantiated? Uh you you don't have
 

6741
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,390
substantiated? Uh you you don't have
that option. Now the science is there

6742
02:06:36,390 --> 02:06:36,400
that option. Now the science is there
 

6743
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,790
that option. Now the science is there
and it's it's allowing people to arrive

6744
02:06:38,790 --> 02:06:38,800
and it's it's allowing people to arrive
 

6745
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:42,550
and it's it's allowing people to arrive
at atheism or at least to decouple from

6746
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:42,560
at atheism or at least to decouple from
 

6747
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:44,069
at atheism or at least to decouple from
fundamentalist

6748
02:06:44,069 --> 02:06:44,079
fundamentalist
 

6749
02:06:44,079 --> 02:06:46,950
fundamentalist
gods of of specific religions um in a

6750
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:46,960
gods of of specific religions um in a
 

6751
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,310
gods of of specific religions um in a
way that was not an option hundreds of

6752
02:06:48,310 --> 02:06:48,320
way that was not an option hundreds of
 

6753
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:49,589
way that was not an option hundreds of
years ago. It's not that [\h__\h] hard to

6754
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:49,599
years ago. It's not that [\h__\h] hard to
 

6755
02:06:49,599 --> 02:06:51,750
years ago. It's not that [\h__\h] hard to
understand. Now we understand things

6756
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:51,760
understand. Now we understand things
 

6757
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:53,350
understand. Now we understand things
about the universe and life, right?

6758
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:53,360
about the universe and life, right?
 

6759
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:55,990
about the universe and life, right?
Biology, geology, astronomy, etc. So, it

6760
02:06:55,990 --> 02:06:56,000
Biology, geology, astronomy, etc. So, it
 

6761
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,830
Biology, geology, astronomy, etc. So, it
is now possible to be a an atheist. I

6762
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:59,840
is now possible to be a an atheist. I
 

6763
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:01,430
is now possible to be a an atheist. I
think they used to call or somebody

6764
02:07:01,430 --> 02:07:01,440
think they used to call or somebody
 

6765
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,510
think they used to call or somebody
called it a an intellectually fulfilled

6766
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:03,520
called it a an intellectually fulfilled
 

6767
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:04,950
called it a an intellectually fulfilled
atheist. I think it was Dawkins actually

6768
02:07:04,950 --> 02:07:04,960
atheist. I think it was Dawkins actually
 

6769
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,430
atheist. I think it was Dawkins actually
that said that. Um, but uh what like

6770
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:07,440
that said that. Um, but uh what like
 

6771
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:08,709
that said that. Um, but uh what like
what what's so [\h__\h] hard to

6772
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:08,719
what what's so [\h__\h] hard to
 

6773
02:07:08,719 --> 02:07:10,950
what what's so [\h__\h] hard to
understand? And it doesn't matter that

6774
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:10,960
understand? And it doesn't matter that
 

6775
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:13,669
understand? And it doesn't matter that
you like you can still believe in God.

6776
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:13,679
you like you can still believe in God.
 

6777
02:07:13,679 --> 02:07:15,750
you like you can still believe in God.
You just can't believe in this kind of

6778
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:15,760
You just can't believe in this kind of
 

6779
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:18,470
You just can't believe in this kind of
loser god that you guys are trying to to

6780
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:18,480
loser god that you guys are trying to to
 

6781
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:20,790
loser god that you guys are trying to to
brainwash the the gullible masses into

6782
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:20,800
brainwash the the gullible masses into
 

6783
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,270
brainwash the the gullible masses into
into believing a progressive creationist

6784
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:23,280
into believing a progressive creationist
 

6785
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,550
into believing a progressive creationist
deity of of of fundamentalist Christian

6786
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:26,560
deity of of of fundamentalist Christian
 

6787
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,870
deity of of of fundamentalist Christian
belief system that is not compatible

6788
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:28,880
belief system that is not compatible
 

6789
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,510
belief system that is not compatible
with science. A god who goes here's the

6790
02:07:31,510 --> 02:07:31,520
with science. A god who goes here's the
 

6791
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:33,830
with science. A god who goes here's the
universe boom and it unfolds by natural

6792
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:33,840
universe boom and it unfolds by natural
 

6793
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,750
universe boom and it unfolds by natural
processes. You can still believe in that

6794
02:07:35,750 --> 02:07:35,760
processes. You can still believe in that
 

6795
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,910
processes. You can still believe in that
god and many many many scientists do

6796
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:37,920
god and many many many scientists do
 

6797
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,069
god and many many many scientists do
probably most actually if you look

6798
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:40,079
probably most actually if you look
 

6799
02:07:40,079 --> 02:07:45,030
probably most actually if you look
globally. Um uh so this you know they're

6800
02:07:45,030 --> 02:07:45,040
globally. Um uh so this you know they're
 

6801
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,270
globally. Um uh so this you know they're
going to try to spin something about

6802
02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:47,280
going to try to spin something about
 

6803
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,109
going to try to spin something about
religious scientists being persecuted

6804
02:07:49,109 --> 02:07:49,119
religious scientists being persecuted
 

6805
02:07:49,119 --> 02:07:51,030
religious scientists being persecuted
and [\h__\h] like that. No [\h__\h] believe

6806
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:51,040
and [\h__\h] like that. No [\h__\h] believe
 

6807
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:52,709
and [\h__\h] like that. No [\h__\h] believe
in a god but believe in a god that is

6808
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:52,719
in a god but believe in a god that is
 

6809
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:54,310
in a god but believe in a god that is
compatible with science because the one

6810
02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:54,320
compatible with science because the one
 

6811
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:56,629
compatible with science because the one
that you guys preach about it ain't.

6812
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:56,639
that you guys preach about it ain't.
 

6813
02:07:56,639 --> 02:07:58,069
that you guys preach about it ain't.
Sorry.

6814
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:58,079
Sorry.
 

6815
02:07:58,079 --> 02:08:00,069
Sorry.
>> Or do you do you personally have to be

6816
02:08:00,069 --> 02:08:00,079
>> Or do you do you personally have to be
 

6817
02:08:00,079 --> 02:08:02,550
>> Or do you do you personally have to be
very careful about saying here's the

6818
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:02,560
very careful about saying here's the
 

6819
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,910
very careful about saying here's the
evidence and I stop there. Well, when I

6820
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:05,920
evidence and I stop there. Well, when I
 

6821
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:09,030
evidence and I stop there. Well, when I
write scientific papers, I look at the

6822
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:09,040
write scientific papers, I look at the
 

6823
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,510
write scientific papers, I look at the
evidence and I write certain things.

6824
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:11,520
evidence and I write certain things.
 

6825
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,510
evidence and I write certain things.
There's there's other things that we're

6826
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:13,520
There's there's other things that we're
 

6827
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:15,350
There's there's other things that we're
we're we're excluded from from being

6828
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:15,360
we're we're excluded from from being
 

6829
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:16,950
we're we're excluded from from being
able to write. We just look at the

6830
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:16,960
able to write. We just look at the
 

6831
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,910
able to write. We just look at the
evidence and we we report up upon it. We

6832
02:08:19,910 --> 02:08:19,920
evidence and we we report up upon it. We
 

6833
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,470
evidence and we we report up upon it. We
might make extrapolations, but no, I

6834
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:22,480
might make extrapolations, but no, I
 

6835
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,790
might make extrapolations, but no, I
don't bring God into the scientific

6836
02:08:24,790 --> 02:08:24,800
don't bring God into the scientific
 

6837
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:25,830
don't bring God into the scientific
papers. But,

6838
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:25,840
papers. But,
 

6839
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:27,350
papers. But,
>> and that's the way it should be.

6840
02:08:27,350 --> 02:08:27,360
>> and that's the way it should be.
 

6841
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:29,350
>> and that's the way it should be.
>> That's that's the way it should be. I'm

6842
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:29,360
>> That's that's the way it should be. I'm
 

6843
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:29,990
>> That's that's the way it should be. I'm
fine with that.

6844
02:08:29,990 --> 02:08:30,000
fine with that.
 

6845
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:31,669
fine with that.
>> Can you imagine? He's writing a paper on

6846
02:08:31,669 --> 02:08:31,679
>> Can you imagine? He's writing a paper on
 

6847
02:08:31,679 --> 02:08:33,510
>> Can you imagine? He's writing a paper on
graphine and he's like look how cool

6848
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:33,520
graphine and he's like look how cool
 

6849
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,990
graphine and he's like look how cool
graphine because is because God decided

6850
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:36,000
graphine because is because God decided
 

6851
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:38,550
graphine because is because God decided
he should make this cool thing. Uh where

6852
02:08:38,550 --> 02:08:38,560
he should make this cool thing. Uh where
 

6853
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,790
he should make this cool thing. Uh where
where the [\h__\h] would that work? His his

6854
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:40,800
where the [\h__\h] would that work? His his
 

6855
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,790
where the [\h__\h] would that work? His his
legitimate scientific output obviously

6856
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:42,800
legitimate scientific output obviously
 

6857
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:44,790
legitimate scientific output obviously
has nothing to do with God and it has

6858
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:44,800
has nothing to do with God and it has
 

6859
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:46,550
has nothing to do with God and it has
nothing to do with any of these topics

6860
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:46,560
nothing to do with any of these topics
 

6861
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,550
nothing to do with any of these topics
that any of these assets are pretending

6862
02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:48,560
that any of these assets are pretending
 

6863
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,870
that any of these assets are pretending
to understand. He doesn't do research.

6864
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:50,880
to understand. He doesn't do research.
 

6865
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,109
to understand. He doesn't do research.
Like people will whine in my comment

6866
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:53,119
Like people will whine in my comment
 

6867
02:08:53,119 --> 02:08:55,430
Like people will whine in my comment
section about how awesome James is and

6868
02:08:55,430 --> 02:08:55,440
section about how awesome James is and
 

6869
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,950
section about how awesome James is and
how how dare I the arrogant Dave uh to

6870
02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:58,960
how how dare I the arrogant Dave uh to
 

6871
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:00,870
how how dare I the arrogant Dave uh to
to debunk the [\h__\h] out of him in all my

6872
02:09:00,870 --> 02:09:00,880
to debunk the [\h__\h] out of him in all my
 

6873
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:02,629
to debunk the [\h__\h] out of him in all my
content they're too afraid to watch. But

6874
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:02,639
content they're too afraid to watch. But
 

6875
02:09:02,639 --> 02:09:04,310
content they're too afraid to watch. But
they actually have convinced themselves

6876
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:04,320
they actually have convinced themselves
 

6877
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,229
they actually have convinced themselves
that he's an origin of life researcher

6878
02:09:06,229 --> 02:09:06,239
that he's an origin of life researcher
 

6879
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:09,030
that he's an origin of life researcher
that he works in that he or at the very

6880
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:09,040
that he works in that he or at the very
 

6881
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,189
that he works in that he or at the very
least works in molecular biology. Some

6882
02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:11,199
least works in molecular biology. Some
 

6883
02:09:11,199 --> 02:09:12,790
least works in molecular biology. Some
of them will call him a biochemist and

6884
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:12,800
of them will call him a biochemist and
 

6885
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:14,629
of them will call him a biochemist and
[\h__\h] like that. He doesn't work in this

6886
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:14,639
[\h__\h] like that. He doesn't work in this
 

6887
02:09:14,639 --> 02:09:16,470
[\h__\h] like that. He doesn't work in this
[\h__\h] His legitimate scientific output

6888
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:16,480
[\h__\h] His legitimate scientific output
 

6889
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:17,910
[\h__\h] His legitimate scientific output
has [\h__\h] nothing to do with these

6890
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:17,920
has [\h__\h] nothing to do with these
 

6891
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:20,310
has [\h__\h] nothing to do with these
topics and he genuinely does not

6892
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:20,320
topics and he genuinely does not
 

6893
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,069
topics and he genuinely does not
understand these topics. He doesn't

6894
02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:22,079
understand these topics. He doesn't
 

6895
02:09:22,079 --> 02:09:23,589
understand these topics. He doesn't
understand biochemistry, molecular

6896
02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:23,599
understand biochemistry, molecular
 

6897
02:09:23,599 --> 02:09:25,910
understand biochemistry, molecular
biology, evolutionary biology, any of

6898
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:25,920
biology, evolutionary biology, any of
 

6899
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,030
biology, evolutionary biology, any of
this [\h__\h] Um, so yeah, no duh. His

6900
02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:29,040
this [\h__\h] Um, so yeah, no duh. His
 

6901
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:30,870
this [\h__\h] Um, so yeah, no duh. His
papers on graphine and [\h__\h] don't talk

6902
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:30,880
papers on graphine and [\h__\h] don't talk
 

6903
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,350
papers on graphine and [\h__\h] don't talk
about God. Why would they? That's his

6904
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:33,360
about God. Why would they? That's his
 

6905
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,510
about God. Why would they? That's his
actual science, which honestly at this

6906
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:35,520
actual science, which honestly at this
 

6907
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:37,270
actual science, which honestly at this
point I don't think he does too much of

6908
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:37,280
point I don't think he does too much of
 

6909
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,189
point I don't think he does too much of
because he's busy doing this crap for

6910
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:39,199
because he's busy doing this crap for
 

6911
02:09:39,199 --> 02:09:41,669
because he's busy doing this crap for
for Meyer. This is where a good chunk of

6912
02:09:41,669 --> 02:09:41,679
for Meyer. This is where a good chunk of
 

6913
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:43,990
for Meyer. This is where a good chunk of
his money comes from. Um, yeah, he's got

6914
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:44,000
his money comes from. Um, yeah, he's got
 

6915
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,069
his money comes from. Um, yeah, he's got
that sweat shop of grad students. Keep

6916
02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:46,079
that sweat shop of grad students. Keep
 

6917
02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:48,149
that sweat shop of grad students. Keep
pumping out those papers, guys.

6918
02:09:48,149 --> 02:09:48,159
pumping out those papers, guys.
 

6919
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:50,870
pumping out those papers, guys.
>> But what you see is you see a regularity

6920
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:50,880
>> But what you see is you see a regularity
 

6921
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:53,430
>> But what you see is you see a regularity
in nature. It doesn't have to be this

6922
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:53,440
in nature. It doesn't have to be this
 

6923
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:56,950
in nature. It doesn't have to be this
way, but it is this way. And this is how

6924
02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:56,960
way, but it is this way. And this is how
 

6925
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,430
way, but it is this way. And this is how
we know that we have a God who has a

6926
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:59,440
we know that we have a God who has a
 

6927
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,229
we know that we have a God who has a
consistency and a purpose. Parents who

6928
02:10:02,229 --> 02:10:02,239
consistency and a purpose. Parents who
 

6929
02:10:02,239 --> 02:10:04,390
consistency and a purpose. Parents who
are consistent with their children are

6930
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:04,400
are consistent with their children are
 

6931
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,629
are consistent with their children are
usually much better parents. And that's

6932
02:10:06,629 --> 02:10:06,639
usually much better parents. And that's
 

6933
02:10:06,639 --> 02:10:08,390
usually much better parents. And that's
what children long for. They love for

6934
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:08,400
what children long for. They love for
 

6935
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,109
what children long for. They love for
consistency. It's not that Prooseidon is

6936
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:11,119
consistency. It's not that Prooseidon is
 

6937
02:10:11,119 --> 02:10:13,270
consistency. It's not that Prooseidon is
is angry today and that's why we have

6938
02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:13,280
is angry today and that's why we have
 

6939
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:16,149
is angry today and that's why we have
the winds. I mean, he's not a capricious

6940
02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:16,159
the winds. I mean, he's not a capricious
 

6941
02:10:16,159 --> 02:10:18,310
the winds. I mean, he's not a capricious
god and this

6942
02:10:18,310 --> 02:10:18,320
god and this
 

6943
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:19,990
god and this
>> Yeah, not at all. He just commits

6944
02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:20,000
>> Yeah, not at all. He just commits
 

6945
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,189
>> Yeah, not at all. He just commits
genocide whenever the [\h__\h] he wants. Uh,

6946
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:23,199
genocide whenever the [\h__\h] he wants. Uh,
 

6947
02:10:23,199 --> 02:10:26,470
genocide whenever the [\h__\h] he wants. Uh,
this is like you're you're the this is

6948
02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:26,480
this is like you're you're the this is
 

6949
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,950
this is like you're you're the this is
the the the schizophrenia that results

6950
02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:28,960
the the the schizophrenia that results
 

6951
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,189
the the the schizophrenia that results
from Christians trying to decouple the

6952
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:31,199
from Christians trying to decouple the
 

6953
02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:32,709
from Christians trying to decouple the
God of the Old Testament from the God of

6954
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:32,719
God of the Old Testament from the God of
 

6955
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,870
God of the Old Testament from the God of
the New Testament. They need that god to

6956
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:34,880
the New Testament. They need that god to
 

6957
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,350
the New Testament. They need that god to
be the same god, but also it can't be

6958
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:37,360
be the same god, but also it can't be
 

6959
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:40,069
be the same god, but also it can't be
the same god at all because the old one

6960
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:40,079
the same god at all because the old one
 

6961
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:42,870
the same god at all because the old one
is a wrathful sociopathic genocidal

6962
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:42,880
is a wrathful sociopathic genocidal
 

6963
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,189
is a wrathful sociopathic genocidal
piece of [\h__\h] and it is not compatible

6964
02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:45,199
piece of [\h__\h] and it is not compatible
 

6965
02:10:45,199 --> 02:10:46,950
piece of [\h__\h] and it is not compatible
with the new allloving one. The

6966
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:46,960
with the new allloving one. The
 

6967
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:49,270
with the new allloving one. The
consistent parent, the consistent parent

6968
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:49,280
consistent parent, the consistent parent
 

6969
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:51,750
consistent parent, the consistent parent
who allows horrific suffering all over

6970
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:51,760
who allows horrific suffering all over
 

6971
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,390
who allows horrific suffering all over
the world all the time. Um, but yeah,

6972
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:54,400
the world all the time. Um, but yeah,
 

6973
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:57,350
the world all the time. Um, but yeah,
but but but do go on about parenting,

6974
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:57,360
but but but do go on about parenting,
 

6975
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:58,470
but but but do go on about parenting,
James. Yes,

6976
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:58,480
James. Yes,
 

6977
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:01,430
James. Yes,
>> regularity is what drives us to say,

6978
02:11:01,430 --> 02:11:01,440
>> regularity is what drives us to say,
 

6979
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:04,069
>> regularity is what drives us to say,
hey, I can study something that would be

6980
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:04,079
hey, I can study something that would be
 

6981
02:11:04,079 --> 02:11:06,550
hey, I can study something that would be
in a plant and I can expect to see

6982
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:06,560
in a plant and I can expect to see
 

6983
02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:09,830
in a plant and I can expect to see
similar behavior in an animal. I can see

6984
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:09,840
similar behavior in an animal. I can see
 

6985
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:11,669
similar behavior in an animal. I can see
this type of behavior. I can see the

6986
02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:11,679
this type of behavior. I can see the
 

6987
02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:14,629
this type of behavior. I can see the
consistency of how molecules work. I can

6988
02:11:14,629 --> 02:11:14,639
consistency of how molecules work. I can
 

6989
02:11:14,639 --> 02:11:16,950
consistency of how molecules work. I can
do the experiment in Austria. I can do

6990
02:11:16,950 --> 02:11:16,960
do the experiment in Austria. I can do
 

6991
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,510
do the experiment in Austria. I can do
the experiment in Houston, Texas. It's

6992
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:19,520
the experiment in Houston, Texas. It's
 

6993
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,350
the experiment in Houston, Texas. It's
going to be the same way. It didn't have

6994
02:11:21,350 --> 02:11:21,360
going to be the same way. It didn't have
 

6995
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,709
going to be the same way. It didn't have
to be, but it is the same way. We could

6996
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:24,719
to be, but it is the same way. We could
 

6997
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:26,390
to be, but it is the same way. We could
be in a completely logically

6998
02:11:26,390 --> 02:11:26,400
be in a completely logically
 

6999
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:28,470
be in a completely logically
inconsistent universe where the laws of

7000
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:28,480
inconsistent universe where the laws of
 

7001
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,229
inconsistent universe where the laws of
physics are different in different

7002
02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:30,239
physics are different in different
 

7003
02:11:30,239 --> 02:11:32,149
physics are different in different
places and where absolutely nothing

7004
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:32,159
places and where absolutely nothing
 

7005
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:34,790
places and where absolutely nothing
makes sense. Uh okay, I guess. But

7006
02:11:34,790 --> 02:11:34,800
makes sense. Uh okay, I guess. But
 

7007
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,270
makes sense. Uh okay, I guess. But
wouldn't that require a god? Uh let's

7008
02:11:37,270 --> 02:11:37,280
wouldn't that require a god? Uh let's
 

7009
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,350
wouldn't that require a god? Uh let's
think about it logically here. That

7010
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:39,360
think about it logically here. That
 

7011
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:41,189
think about it logically here. That
would require a god to be like the laws

7012
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:41,199
would require a god to be like the laws
 

7013
02:11:41,199 --> 02:11:42,709
would require a god to be like the laws
of physics will be this here and then

7014
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:42,719
of physics will be this here and then
 

7015
02:11:42,719 --> 02:11:44,149
of physics will be this here and then
arbitrarily they'll be different over

7016
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:44,159
arbitrarily they'll be different over
 

7017
02:11:44,159 --> 02:11:45,910
arbitrarily they'll be different over
here and experiments will be different.

7018
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:45,920
here and experiments will be different.
 

7019
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:47,910
here and experiments will be different.
uh the one where the laws where

7020
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:47,920
uh the one where the laws where
 

7021
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:49,750
uh the one where the laws where
everything is logically consistent,

7022
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:49,760
everything is logically consistent,
 

7023
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:51,589
everything is logically consistent,
that's kind of the lowest energy state

7024
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:51,599
that's kind of the lowest energy state
 

7025
02:11:51,599 --> 02:11:54,629
that's kind of the lowest energy state
that makes sense with with no designer.

7026
02:11:54,629 --> 02:11:54,639
that makes sense with with no designer.
 

7027
02:11:54,639 --> 02:11:57,350
that makes sense with with no designer.
Uh if you if you actually engage in in

7028
02:11:57,350 --> 02:11:57,360
Uh if you if you actually engage in in
 

7029
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:00,310
Uh if you if you actually engage in in
genuinely uh you know, honest uh thought

7030
02:12:00,310 --> 02:12:00,320
genuinely uh you know, honest uh thought
 

7031
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:01,830
genuinely uh you know, honest uh thought
about this stuff. So I don't know what

7032
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:01,840
about this stuff. So I don't know what
 

7033
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,270
about this stuff. So I don't know what
the [\h__\h] you're talking about, man.

7034
02:12:03,270 --> 02:12:03,280
the [\h__\h] you're talking about, man.
 

7035
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,910
the [\h__\h] you're talking about, man.
>> So what we can perceive by that is that

7036
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:05,920
>> So what we can perceive by that is that
 

7037
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:09,189
>> So what we can perceive by that is that
we have a consistent God and he is

7038
02:12:09,189 --> 02:12:09,199
we have a consistent God and he is
 

7039
02:12:09,199 --> 02:12:12,790
we have a consistent God and he is
magnificent in what he he shows to us. I

7040
02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:12,800
magnificent in what he he shows to us. I
 

7041
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:15,350
magnificent in what he he shows to us. I
mean I see so much more than what you

7042
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:15,360
mean I see so much more than what you
 

7043
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:18,149
mean I see so much more than what you
can see. So if I look at a leaf I know

7044
02:12:18,149 --> 02:12:18,159
can see. So if I look at a leaf I know
 

7045
02:12:18,159 --> 02:12:21,589
can see. So if I look at a leaf I know
in that leaf there's this magnesium atom

7046
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:21,599
in that leaf there's this magnesium atom
 

7047
02:12:21,599 --> 02:12:23,589
in that leaf there's this magnesium atom
sitting in the middle of a pferin which

7048
02:12:23,589 --> 02:12:23,599
sitting in the middle of a pferin which
 

7049
02:12:23,599 --> 02:12:25,990
sitting in the middle of a pferin which
is four nitrogen atoms sitting there and

7050
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:26,000
is four nitrogen atoms sitting there and
 

7051
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,550
is four nitrogen atoms sitting there and
there is a funnel where light can come

7052
02:12:28,550 --> 02:12:28,560
there is a funnel where light can come
 

7053
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:28,950
there is a funnel where light can come
in.

7054
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:28,960
in.
 

7055
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:30,550
in.
>> He does this [\h__\h] every time he did it

7056
02:12:30,550 --> 02:12:30,560
>> He does this [\h__\h] every time he did it
 

7057
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:33,910
>> He does this [\h__\h] every time he did it
on Tucker Carlson. Look watch me explain

7058
02:12:33,910 --> 02:12:33,920
on Tucker Carlson. Look watch me explain
 

7059
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,950
on Tucker Carlson. Look watch me explain
watch me explain freshman undergrad

7060
02:12:36,950 --> 02:12:36,960
watch me explain freshman undergrad
 

7061
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:39,669
watch me explain freshman undergrad
level uh biochemistry. I'm going to

7062
02:12:39,669 --> 02:12:39,679
level uh biochemistry. I'm going to
 

7063
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:41,910
level uh biochemistry. I'm going to
explain to you at a at at a freshman

7064
02:12:41,910 --> 02:12:41,920
explain to you at a at at a freshman
 

7065
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:45,030
explain to you at a at at a freshman
year level how how photosynthesis works.

7066
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:45,040
year level how how photosynthesis works.
 

7067
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:46,870
year level how how photosynthesis works.
Uh so that you think I'm super duper

7068
02:12:46,870 --> 02:12:46,880
Uh so that you think I'm super duper
 

7069
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,510
Uh so that you think I'm super duper
smart, therefore God exists. Uh it's

7070
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:49,520
smart, therefore God exists. Uh it's
 

7071
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:51,669
smart, therefore God exists. Uh it's
just like [\h__\h] bananas. Normal people

7072
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:51,679
just like [\h__\h] bananas. Normal people
 

7073
02:12:51,679 --> 02:12:53,189
just like [\h__\h] bananas. Normal people
learn [\h__\h] and they're like, "Oh, that's

7074
02:12:53,189 --> 02:12:53,199
learn [\h__\h] and they're like, "Oh, that's
 

7075
02:12:53,199 --> 02:12:55,350
learn [\h__\h] and they're like, "Oh, that's
how that works. It does not point to

7076
02:12:55,350 --> 02:12:55,360
how that works. It does not point to
 

7077
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,709
how that works. It does not point to
God." Okay, sorry, dude. And that light

7078
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:58,719
God." Okay, sorry, dude. And that light
 

7079
02:12:58,719 --> 02:13:00,790
God." Okay, sorry, dude. And that light
hits the magnesium atom and that will

7080
02:13:00,790 --> 02:13:00,800
hits the magnesium atom and that will
 

7081
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:04,149
hits the magnesium atom and that will
eject an electron and that then starts a

7082
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:04,159
eject an electron and that then starts a
 

7083
02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:06,709
eject an electron and that then starts a
photosynthesis process. And that's what

7084
02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:06,719
photosynthesis process. And that's what
 

7085
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:09,430
photosynthesis process. And that's what
what causes this plant to be able to to

7086
02:13:09,430 --> 02:13:09,440
what causes this plant to be able to to
 

7087
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:12,229
what causes this plant to be able to to
take up CO2. I love that [\h__\h] just

7088
02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:12,239
take up CO2. I love that [\h__\h] just
 

7089
02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:15,270
take up CO2. I love that [\h__\h] just
like leaning forward like, "Oh my god, I

7090
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:15,280
like leaning forward like, "Oh my god, I
 

7091
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:17,669
like leaning forward like, "Oh my god, I
be the most incredible knowledge is

7092
02:13:17,669 --> 02:13:17,679
be the most incredible knowledge is
 

7093
02:13:17,679 --> 02:13:19,589
be the most incredible knowledge is
being shared with me right now. Crack

7094
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:19,599
being shared with me right now. Crack
 

7095
02:13:19,599 --> 02:13:22,069
being shared with me right now. Crack
open a [\h__\h] textbook, dude. Go to

7096
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:22,079
open a [\h__\h] textbook, dude. Go to
 

7097
02:13:22,079 --> 02:13:24,709
open a [\h__\h] textbook, dude. Go to
school. Learn some shit." Like you, it's

7098
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:24,719
school. Learn some shit." Like you, it's
 

7099
02:13:24,719 --> 02:13:28,149
school. Learn some shit." Like you, it's
so funny when these types pretend to be

7100
02:13:28,149 --> 02:13:28,159
so funny when these types pretend to be
 

7101
02:13:28,159 --> 02:13:30,229
so funny when these types pretend to be
enamored with the knowledge that's being

7102
02:13:30,229 --> 02:13:30,239
enamored with the knowledge that's being
 

7103
02:13:30,239 --> 02:13:32,149
enamored with the knowledge that's being
shared with them. You [\h__\h] hate

7104
02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:32,159
shared with them. You [\h__\h] hate
 

7105
02:13:32,159 --> 02:13:34,229
shared with them. You [\h__\h] hate
science. If you wanted to understand

7106
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:34,239
science. If you wanted to understand
 

7107
02:13:34,239 --> 02:13:36,069
science. If you wanted to understand
science, you'd learn science and you'd

7108
02:13:36,069 --> 02:13:36,079
science, you'd learn science and you'd
 

7109
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:37,910
science, you'd learn science and you'd
quickly learn how all of these dickags

7110
02:13:37,910 --> 02:13:37,920
quickly learn how all of these dickags
 

7111
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,350
quickly learn how all of these dickags
are lying to you. Uh so this like this

7112
02:13:41,350 --> 02:13:41,360
are lying to you. Uh so this like this
 

7113
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:44,149
are lying to you. Uh so this like this
performative thing of like, oh my god, I

7114
02:13:44,149 --> 02:13:44,159
performative thing of like, oh my god, I
 

7115
02:13:44,159 --> 02:13:46,149
performative thing of like, oh my god, I
like this science because the the

7116
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:46,159
like this science because the the
 

7117
02:13:46,159 --> 02:13:47,990
like this science because the the
religious apologist is explaining it to

7118
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:48,000
religious apologist is explaining it to
 

7119
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,910
religious apologist is explaining it to
me, but none of those dirty atheist

7120
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:49,920
me, but none of those dirty atheist
 

7121
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:51,750
me, but none of those dirty atheist
heathens can explain this [\h__\h] to me

7122
02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:51,760
heathens can explain this [\h__\h] to me
 

7123
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:53,830
heathens can explain this [\h__\h] to me
because that's coming from Satan and I

7124
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:53,840
because that's coming from Satan and I
 

7125
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:55,510
because that's coming from Satan and I
don't like that.

7126
02:13:55,510 --> 02:13:55,520
don't like that.
 

7127
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:57,990
don't like that.
>> And to release oxygen, take that carbon

7128
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:58,000
>> And to release oxygen, take that carbon
 

7129
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:00,390
>> And to release oxygen, take that carbon
and make it a part of that tree now. And

7130
02:14:00,390 --> 02:14:00,400
and make it a part of that tree now. And
 

7131
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:02,470
and make it a part of that tree now. And
I know why the the the colors are

7132
02:14:02,470 --> 02:14:02,480
I know why the the the colors are
 

7133
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:04,390
I know why the the the colors are
changing here. Why are the colors

7134
02:14:04,390 --> 02:14:04,400
changing here. Why are the colors
 

7135
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:05,510
changing here. Why are the colors
changing? Because you have this

7136
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:05,520
changing? Because you have this
 

7137
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:07,430
changing? Because you have this
chlorophyll and you have the the number

7138
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:07,440
chlorophyll and you have the the number
 

7139
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:09,430
chlorophyll and you have the the number
of double bonds are beginning to get

7140
02:14:09,430 --> 02:14:09,440
of double bonds are beginning to get
 

7141
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,830
of double bonds are beginning to get
oxidized and they're changing. And so

7142
02:14:11,830 --> 02:14:11,840
oxidized and they're changing. And so
 

7143
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,709
oxidized and they're changing. And so
you see this beauty to God when you get

7144
02:14:14,709 --> 02:14:14,719
you see this beauty to God when you get
 

7145
02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:17,350
you see this beauty to God when you get
into the sciences that the common person

7146
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:17,360
into the sciences that the common person
 

7147
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:20,390
into the sciences that the common person
cannot see. And I see all of this as

7148
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:20,400
cannot see. And I see all of this as
 

7149
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:22,149
cannot see. And I see all of this as
soon as I look at that leaf in my mind's

7150
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:22,159
soon as I look at that leaf in my mind's
 

7151
02:14:22,159 --> 02:14:24,550
soon as I look at that leaf in my mind's
eye because I've studied it at the

7152
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:24,560
eye because I've studied it at the
 

7153
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,270
eye because I've studied it at the
molecular level. And then that gives me

7154
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:27,280
molecular level. And then that gives me
 

7155
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,270
molecular level. And then that gives me
a greater appreciation.

7156
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:29,280
a greater appreciation.
 

7157
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:31,510
a greater appreciation.
>> Wow. You're so smart, James. You're

7158
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:31,520
>> Wow. You're so smart, James. You're
 

7159
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,750
>> Wow. You're so smart, James. You're
smarter than everybody. Nobody could

7160
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:33,760
smarter than everybody. Nobody could
 

7161
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,750
smarter than everybody. Nobody could
ever have explained freshman year

7162
02:14:35,750 --> 02:14:35,760
ever have explained freshman year
 

7163
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,310
ever have explained freshman year
biochemistry. Uh therefore, if you

7164
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:38,320
biochemistry. Uh therefore, if you
 

7165
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:40,709
biochemistry. Uh therefore, if you
believe God is real, he must be. And

7166
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:40,719
believe God is real, he must be. And
 

7167
02:14:40,719 --> 02:14:43,669
believe God is real, he must be. And
we're just all here so impressed by your

7168
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:43,679
we're just all here so impressed by your
 

7169
02:14:43,679 --> 02:14:46,229
we're just all here so impressed by your
chlorophyll [\h__\h] God damn it, dude.

7170
02:14:46,229 --> 02:14:46,239
chlorophyll [\h__\h] God damn it, dude.
 

7171
02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:48,149
chlorophyll [\h__\h] God damn it, dude.
>> It's an appreciation of design. Can I go

7172
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:48,159
>> It's an appreciation of design. Can I go
 

7173
02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:49,910
>> It's an appreciation of design. Can I go
back to the the quote from Newton?

7174
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:49,920
back to the the quote from Newton?
 

7175
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:50,790
back to the the quote from Newton?
>> Oh, sure. But

7176
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:50,800
>> Oh, sure. But
 

7177
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,830
>> Oh, sure. But
>> Oh, yeah. Go ahead.

7178
02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:51,840
>> Oh, yeah. Go ahead.
 

7179
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,149
>> Oh, yeah. Go ahead.
>> You go back to that. But but I want to

7180
02:14:54,149 --> 02:14:54,159
>> You go back to that. But but I want to
 

7181
02:14:54,159 --> 02:14:57,270
>> You go back to that. But but I want to
ask you because as I understand it,

7182
02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:57,280
ask you because as I understand it,
 

7183
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,350
ask you because as I understand it,
>> your work in intelligent design, you are

7184
02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:59,360
>> your work in intelligent design, you are
 

7185
02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:02,229
>> your work in intelligent design, you are
attempting as far as

7186
02:15:02,229 --> 02:15:02,239
attempting as far as
 

7187
02:15:02,239 --> 02:15:04,550
attempting as far as
>> you are willing to go a little farther

7188
02:15:04,550 --> 02:15:04,560
>> you are willing to go a little farther
 

7189
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:07,189
>> you are willing to go a little farther
and say actually we can bring the notion

7190
02:15:07,189 --> 02:15:07,199
and say actually we can bring the notion
 

7191
02:15:07,199 --> 02:15:11,270
and say actually we can bring the notion
of an intelligent mind into science into

7192
02:15:11,270 --> 02:15:11,280
of an intelligent mind into science into
 

7193
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:11,669
of an intelligent mind into science into
go ahead.

7194
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:11,679
go ahead.
 

7195
02:15:11,679 --> 02:15:13,589
go ahead.
>> Yeah. Into the question of origins okay

7196
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:13,599
>> Yeah. Into the question of origins okay
 

7197
02:15:13,599 --> 02:15:14,790
>> Yeah. Into the question of origins okay
there are different types of science.

7198
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:14,800
there are different types of science.
 

7199
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:16,470
there are different types of science.
The type of science that Jim does is

7200
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:16,480
The type of science that Jim does is
 

7201
02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:19,109
The type of science that Jim does is
he's studying things the regularity of

7202
02:15:19,109 --> 02:15:19,119
he's studying things the regularity of
 

7203
02:15:19,119 --> 02:15:21,589
he's studying things the regularity of
nature at the bench. He's doing

7204
02:15:21,589 --> 02:15:21,599
nature at the bench. He's doing
 

7205
02:15:21,599 --> 02:15:23,510
nature at the bench. He's doing
experiments chemically with

7206
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:23,520
experiments chemically with
 

7207
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:26,069
experiments chemically with
nanotechnology, various things. If if

7208
02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:26,079
nanotechnology, various things. If if
 

7209
02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:27,430
nanotechnology, various things. If if
you ask the question, what does nature

7210
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:27,440
you ask the question, what does nature
 

7211
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,750
you ask the question, what does nature
ordinarily do? The answer to that

7212
02:15:29,750 --> 02:15:29,760
ordinarily do? The answer to that
 

7213
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:31,750
ordinarily do? The answer to that
question will necessarily be rendered in

7214
02:15:31,750 --> 02:15:31,760
question will necessarily be rendered in
 

7215
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:33,669
question will necessarily be rendered in
terms of material processes because

7216
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:33,679
terms of material processes because
 

7217
02:15:33,679 --> 02:15:35,350
terms of material processes because
we're describing what nature ordinarily

7218
02:15:35,350 --> 02:15:35,360
we're describing what nature ordinarily
 

7219
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:36,149
we're describing what nature ordinarily
does.

7220
02:15:36,149 --> 02:15:36,159
does.
 

7221
02:15:36,159 --> 02:15:38,550
does.
>> If however you ask the question, where

7222
02:15:38,550 --> 02:15:38,560
>> If however you ask the question, where
 

7223
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,669
>> If however you ask the question, where
did this or that feature of the of the

7224
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:41,679
did this or that feature of the of the
 

7225
02:15:41,679 --> 02:15:43,589
did this or that feature of the of the
universe or life come from in the first

7226
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:43,599
universe or life come from in the first
 

7227
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:46,390
universe or life come from in the first
place? It might be that life or the

7228
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:46,400
place? It might be that life or the
 

7229
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:48,149
place? It might be that life or the
digital code within it is the product of

7230
02:15:48,149 --> 02:15:48,159
digital code within it is the product of
 

7231
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:50,390
digital code within it is the product of
undirected material processes. But

7232
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:50,400
undirected material processes. But
 

7233
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:52,310
undirected material processes. But
another possibility is that the

7234
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:52,320
another possibility is that the
 

7235
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:54,149
another possibility is that the
information in the cell or or the

7236
02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:54,159
information in the cell or or the
 

7237
02:15:54,159 --> 02:15:56,390
information in the cell or or the
machinery in the cell uh or the

7238
02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:56,400
machinery in the cell uh or the
 

7239
02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:58,069
machinery in the cell uh or the
information processing system in the

7240
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:58,079
information processing system in the
 

7241
02:15:58,079 --> 02:16:00,550
information processing system in the
cell uh resulted from the activity of a

7242
02:16:00,550 --> 02:16:00,560
cell uh resulted from the activity of a
 

7243
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,310
cell uh resulted from the activity of a
designing mind. And there we need to

7244
02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:02,320
designing mind. And there we need to
 

7245
02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:03,669
designing mind. And there we need to
bring in we need to do a different kind

7246
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:03,679
bring in we need to do a different kind
 

7247
02:16:03,679 --> 02:16:05,109
bring in we need to do a different kind
of science where we bring in our

7248
02:16:05,109 --> 02:16:05,119
of science where we bring in our
 

7249
02:16:05,119 --> 02:16:06,629
of science where we bring in our
knowledge of cause and effect in the

7250
02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:06,639
knowledge of cause and effect in the
 

7251
02:16:06,639 --> 02:16:08,950
knowledge of cause and effect in the
present to reconstruct what most likely

7252
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:08,960
present to reconstruct what most likely
 

7253
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:10,149
present to reconstruct what most likely
happened in the past.

7254
02:16:10,149 --> 02:16:10,159
happened in the past.
 

7255
02:16:10,159 --> 02:16:13,270
happened in the past.
>> This reeks of Kenham's uh observational

7256
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:13,280
>> This reeks of Kenham's uh observational
 

7257
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,750
>> This reeks of Kenham's uh observational
versus historical science [\h__\h] Uh

7258
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:15,760
versus historical science [\h__\h] Uh
 

7259
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:17,430
versus historical science [\h__\h] Uh
it's all the same kind of science.

7260
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:17,440
it's all the same kind of science.
 

7261
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:19,350
it's all the same kind of science.
you're you're still you're still making

7262
02:16:19,350 --> 02:16:19,360
you're you're still you're still making
 

7263
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:22,229
you're you're still you're still making
a completely baseless claim that has no

7264
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:22,239
a completely baseless claim that has no
 

7265
02:16:22,239 --> 02:16:24,390
a completely baseless claim that has no
support whatsoever in science. And the

7266
02:16:24,390 --> 02:16:24,400
support whatsoever in science. And the
 

7267
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:25,990
support whatsoever in science. And the
more that we understand about the

7268
02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:26,000
more that we understand about the
 

7269
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,830
more that we understand about the
scientific processes that brought about

7270
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:27,840
scientific processes that brought about
 

7271
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,390
scientific processes that brought about
all of this all of the all the natural

7272
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:30,400
all of this all of the all the natural
 

7273
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,950
all of this all of the all the natural
phenomena, the more it becomes blatantly

7274
02:16:32,950 --> 02:16:32,960
phenomena, the more it becomes blatantly
 

7275
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:34,230
phenomena, the more it becomes blatantly
obvious that this is religious

7276
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:34,240
obvious that this is religious
 

7277
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:36,309
obvious that this is religious
propaganda masquerading as science. So

7278
02:16:36,309 --> 02:16:36,319
propaganda masquerading as science. So
 

7279
02:16:36,319 --> 02:16:38,389
propaganda masquerading as science. So
you can try to go, well, no, no, no,

7280
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:38,399
you can try to go, well, no, no, no,
 

7281
02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:40,070
you can try to go, well, no, no, no,
it's not that kind of science. It's this

7282
02:16:40,070 --> 02:16:40,080
it's not that kind of science. It's this
 

7283
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:41,990
it's not that kind of science. It's this
other kind of science. It's a different

7284
02:16:41,990 --> 02:16:42,000
other kind of science. It's a different
 

7285
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:43,750
other kind of science. It's a different
super special kind of science. No, it's

7286
02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:43,760
super special kind of science. No, it's
 

7287
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:45,750
super special kind of science. No, it's
not. You're just a [\h__\h] fraud. You're

7288
02:16:45,750 --> 02:16:45,760
not. You're just a [\h__\h] fraud. You're
 

7289
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:47,270
not. You're just a [\h__\h] fraud. You're
just a fraud lying about science. That's

7290
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:47,280
just a fraud lying about science. That's
 

7291
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:47,990
just a fraud lying about science. That's
it.

7292
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:48,000
it.
 

7293
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:49,429
it.
>> And because we know from our our

7294
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:49,439
>> And because we know from our our
 

7295
02:16:49,439 --> 02:16:51,190
>> And because we know from our our
knowledge of cause and effect that it

7296
02:16:51,190 --> 02:16:51,200
knowledge of cause and effect that it
 

7297
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:54,549
knowledge of cause and effect that it
takes a mind to generate specified or

7298
02:16:54,549 --> 02:16:54,559
takes a mind to generate specified or
 

7299
02:16:54,559 --> 02:16:58,309
takes a mind to generate specified or
functional information. When we find

7300
02:16:58,309 --> 02:16:58,319
functional information. When we find
 

7301
02:16:58,319 --> 02:17:00,389
functional information. When we find
functional information embedded in a

7302
02:17:00,389 --> 02:17:00,399
functional information embedded in a
 

7303
02:17:00,399 --> 02:17:01,910
functional information embedded in a
molecule and we know that that's

7304
02:17:01,910 --> 02:17:01,920
molecule and we know that that's
 

7305
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:03,830
molecule and we know that that's
necessary to produce life, we can infer

7306
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:03,840
necessary to produce life, we can infer
 

7307
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,110
necessary to produce life, we can infer
that the mind played a role in the

7308
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:05,120
that the mind played a role in the
 

7309
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,509
that the mind played a role in the
origin of life. So that's a that's a a a

7310
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:07,519
origin of life. So that's a that's a a a
 

7311
02:17:07,519 --> 02:17:09,669
origin of life. So that's a that's a a a
different it's a reasoning about

7312
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:09,679
different it's a reasoning about
 

7313
02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:11,509
different it's a reasoning about
>> except no you can't you cannot infer

7314
02:17:11,509 --> 02:17:11,519
>> except no you can't you cannot infer
 

7315
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:13,429
>> except no you can't you cannot infer
that. That's a religious propaganda.

7316
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:13,439
that. That's a religious propaganda.
 

7317
02:17:13,439 --> 02:17:15,669
that. That's a religious propaganda.
Everybody go watch my Demsky video. Uh

7318
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:15,679
Everybody go watch my Demsky video. Uh
 

7319
02:17:15,679 --> 02:17:18,549
Everybody go watch my Demsky video. Uh
you can you have uh you have many many

7320
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:18,559
you can you have uh you have many many
 

7321
02:17:18,559 --> 02:17:21,910
you can you have uh you have many many
many uh biop-olymers with different

7322
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:21,920
many uh biop-olymers with different
 

7323
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:24,230
many uh biop-olymers with different
sequences. Some by chance have function

7324
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:24,240
sequences. Some by chance have function
 

7325
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:25,669
sequences. Some by chance have function
and then those proliferate in a

7326
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:25,679
and then those proliferate in a
 

7327
02:17:25,679 --> 02:17:27,589
and then those proliferate in a
statistically significant way and then

7328
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:27,599
statistically significant way and then
 

7329
02:17:27,599 --> 02:17:29,270
statistically significant way and then
are modified over time by natural

7330
02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:29,280
are modified over time by natural
 

7331
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:31,750
are modified over time by natural
processes. It really is that simple. You

7332
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:31,760
processes. It really is that simple. You
 

7333
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:33,669
processes. It really is that simple. You
just have to wrap your head around

7334
02:17:33,669 --> 02:17:33,679
just have to wrap your head around
 

7335
02:17:33,679 --> 02:17:37,669
just have to wrap your head around
chance producing function or natural

7336
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:37,679
chance producing function or natural
 

7337
02:17:37,679 --> 02:17:39,910
chance producing function or natural
processes, random processes producing

7338
02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:39,920
processes, random processes producing
 

7339
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:43,349
processes, random processes producing
function by chance and then that

7340
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:43,359
function by chance and then that
 

7341
02:17:43,359 --> 02:17:44,950
function by chance and then that
proliferating in a statistically

7342
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:44,960
proliferating in a statistically
 

7343
02:17:44,960 --> 02:17:47,110
proliferating in a statistically
significant way. Again, it's it's just

7344
02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:47,120
significant way. Again, it's it's just
 

7345
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:48,549
significant way. Again, it's it's just
natural selection. It's chance and

7346
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:48,559
natural selection. It's chance and
 

7347
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:50,070
natural selection. It's chance and
natural selection. Whether we're talking

7348
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:50,080
natural selection. Whether we're talking
 

7349
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:51,830
natural selection. Whether we're talking
about biology, chemistry, whatever it

7350
02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:51,840
about biology, chemistry, whatever it
 

7351
02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:54,549
about biology, chemistry, whatever it
is, um they just cannot let their

7352
02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:54,559
is, um they just cannot let their
 

7353
02:17:54,559 --> 02:17:56,150
is, um they just cannot let their
viewers know about this stuff. That's

7354
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:56,160
viewers know about this stuff. That's
 

7355
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,389
viewers know about this stuff. That's
it. about the question of design or no

7356
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:58,399
it. about the question of design or no
 

7357
02:17:58,399 --> 02:18:00,150
it. about the question of design or no
design within what are called the

7358
02:18:00,150 --> 02:18:00,160
design within what are called the
 

7359
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:01,910
design within what are called the
historical sciences. And that's a

7360
02:18:01,910 --> 02:18:01,920
historical sciences. And that's a
 

7361
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,070
historical sciences. And that's a
perfectly legitimate thing to do. The

7362
02:18:04,070 --> 02:18:04,080
perfectly legitimate thing to do. The
 

7363
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:05,990
perfectly legitimate thing to do. The
opposite would be to say, well, I have

7364
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:06,000
opposite would be to say, well, I have
 

7365
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,990
opposite would be to say, well, I have
all this information about what of what

7366
02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:08,000
all this information about what of what
 

7367
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:09,349
all this information about what of what
life is made of. Now, I'm going to ask

7368
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:09,359
life is made of. Now, I'm going to ask
 

7369
02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:12,070
life is made of. Now, I'm going to ask
the question, how did it originate?

7370
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:12,080
the question, how did it originate?
 

7371
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:14,230
the question, how did it originate?
Well, I could, since I'm a scientist,

7372
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:14,240
Well, I could, since I'm a scientist,
 

7373
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:15,669
Well, I could, since I'm a scientist,
I'm going to say I have to limit myself

7374
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:15,679
I'm going to say I have to limit myself
 

7375
02:18:15,679 --> 02:18:17,509
I'm going to say I have to limit myself
to strictly materialistic explanations

7376
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:17,519
to strictly materialistic explanations
 

7377
02:18:17,519 --> 02:18:19,270
to strictly materialistic explanations
for everything. But then I might miss

7378
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:19,280
for everything. But then I might miss
 

7379
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:21,190
for everything. But then I might miss
the right answer because it might be

7380
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:21,200
the right answer because it might be
 

7381
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:22,629
the right answer because it might be
that I'm looking at something that

7382
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:22,639
that I'm looking at something that
 

7383
02:18:22,639 --> 02:18:24,950
that I'm looking at something that
cannot be or is not produced by material

7384
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:24,960
cannot be or is not produced by material
 

7385
02:18:24,960 --> 02:18:27,190
cannot be or is not produced by material
processes but which instead is always

7386
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:27,200
processes but which instead is always
 

7387
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:29,190
processes but which instead is always
produced in our experience as a result

7388
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:29,200
produced in our experience as a result
 

7389
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:30,950
produced in our experience as a result
of a designing mind. And that's what

7390
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:30,960
of a designing mind. And that's what
 

7391
02:18:30,960 --> 02:18:33,190
of a designing mind. And that's what
we're saying is absolutely the case

7392
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:33,200
we're saying is absolutely the case
 

7393
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:35,589
we're saying is absolutely the case
about the presence of information in a

7394
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:35,599
about the presence of information in a
 

7395
02:18:35,599 --> 02:18:37,190
about the presence of information in a
living system. That's

7396
02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:37,200
living system. That's
 

7397
02:18:37,200 --> 02:18:38,870
living system. That's
>> and there's a little thing to add to

7398
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:38,880
>> and there's a little thing to add to
 

7399
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:40,790
>> and there's a little thing to add to
that.

7400
02:18:40,790 --> 02:18:40,800
that.
 

7401
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:45,030
that.
What kills materialism for me is that

7402
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:45,040
What kills materialism for me is that
 

7403
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:49,190
What kills materialism for me is that
information itself is not material.

7404
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:49,200
information itself is not material.
 

7405
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:51,990
information itself is not material.
And that's the end of it. That science

7406
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:52,000
And that's the end of it. That science
 

7407
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:53,349
And that's the end of it. That science
itself has

7408
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:53,359
itself has
 

7409
02:18:53,359 --> 02:18:55,589
itself has
>> it's a magic spiritual essence made of

7410
02:18:55,589 --> 02:18:55,599
>> it's a magic spiritual essence made of
 

7411
02:18:55,599 --> 02:18:57,030
>> it's a magic spiritual essence made of
unicorn farts. Right?

7412
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:57,040
unicorn farts. Right?
 

7413
02:18:57,040 --> 02:19:00,709
unicorn farts. Right?
>> Showed us in this information age that

7414
02:19:00,709 --> 02:19:00,719
>> Showed us in this information age that
 

7415
02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:03,750
>> Showed us in this information age that
information is an immaterial quantity

7416
02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:03,760
information is an immaterial quantity
 

7417
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:05,589
information is an immaterial quantity
that's not reducible to physics and

7418
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:05,599
that's not reducible to physics and
 

7419
02:19:05,599 --> 02:19:07,990
that's not reducible to physics and
chemistry. So that if we're going to

7420
02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:08,000
chemistry. So that if we're going to
 

7421
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,309
chemistry. So that if we're going to
study it at all,

7422
02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:10,319
study it at all,
 

7423
02:19:10,319 --> 02:19:13,509
study it at all,
>> we've got to widen our definition of

7424
02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:13,519
>> we've got to widen our definition of
 

7425
02:19:13,519 --> 02:19:14,230
>> we've got to widen our definition of
>> reality.

7426
02:19:14,230 --> 02:19:14,240
>> reality.
 

7427
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:15,830
>> reality.
>> What is you buy this

7428
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:15,840
>> What is you buy this
 

7429
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:16,230
>> What is you buy this
>> science?

7430
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:16,240
>> science?
 

7431
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:18,070
>> science?
>> Oh, abs. We don't have to do [\h__\h] Uh

7432
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:18,080
>> Oh, abs. We don't have to do [\h__\h] Uh
 

7433
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:19,349
>> Oh, abs. We don't have to do [\h__\h] Uh
the information the genome is the

7434
02:19:19,349 --> 02:19:19,359
the information the genome is the
 

7435
02:19:19,359 --> 02:19:21,509
the information the genome is the
sequence of nucleotides. That's it.

7436
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:21,519
sequence of nucleotides. That's it.
 

7437
02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:23,589
sequence of nucleotides. That's it.
Whatever else, whatever other example

7438
02:19:23,589 --> 02:19:23,599
Whatever else, whatever other example
 

7439
02:19:23,599 --> 02:19:25,270
Whatever else, whatever other example
you can get information from anything.

7440
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:25,280
you can get information from anything.
 

7441
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:29,110
you can get information from anything.
The a sample of particle a sample of gas

7442
02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:29,120
The a sample of particle a sample of gas
 

7443
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:31,509
The a sample of particle a sample of gas
particles has information in the way of

7444
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:31,519
particles has information in the way of
 

7445
02:19:31,519 --> 02:19:34,790
particles has information in the way of
their their their momentum vectors or

7446
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:34,800
their their their momentum vectors or
 

7447
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,990
their their their momentum vectors or
masses or whatever. Um, it's not just

7448
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:38,000
masses or whatever. Um, it's not just
 

7449
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:40,230
masses or whatever. Um, it's not just
the way they're selling information as a

7450
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:40,240
the way they're selling information as a
 

7451
02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:42,870
the way they're selling information as a
as a as an ethereal special sauce. It's

7452
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:42,880
as a as an ethereal special sauce. It's
 

7453
02:19:42,880 --> 02:19:43,990
as a as an ethereal special sauce. It's
[\h__\h] meaningless.

7454
02:19:43,990 --> 02:19:44,000
[\h__\h] meaningless.
 

7455
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:46,549
[\h__\h] meaningless.
>> Oh, absolutely. Mean by this in

7456
02:19:46,549 --> 02:19:46,559
>> Oh, absolutely. Mean by this in
 

7457
02:19:46,559 --> 02:19:49,590
>> Oh, absolutely. Mean by this in
information is not material. And and we

7458
02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:49,600
information is not material. And and we
 

7459
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:51,349
information is not material. And and we
even see this

7460
02:19:51,349 --> 02:19:51,359
even see this
 

7461
02:19:51,359 --> 02:19:53,190
even see this
>> in the scriptures. It says in the

7462
02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:53,200
>> in the scriptures. It says in the
 

7463
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:54,870
>> in the scriptures. It says in the
beginning was the word that is

7464
02:19:54,870 --> 02:19:54,880
beginning was the word that is
 

7465
02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:57,910
beginning was the word that is
information and the word was with God

7466
02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:57,920
information and the word was with God
 

7467
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:01,830
information and the word was with God
and the word was God. This starts with

7468
02:20:01,830 --> 02:20:01,840
and the word was God. This starts with
 

7469
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:05,190
and the word was God. This starts with
information right here. And then it was

7470
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:05,200
information right here. And then it was
 

7471
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:07,110
information right here. And then it was
that word.

7472
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:07,120
that word.
 

7473
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:11,349
that word.
The word became flesh and dwelt among us

7474
02:20:11,349 --> 02:20:11,359
The word became flesh and dwelt among us
 

7475
02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:13,990
The word became flesh and dwelt among us
and we saw his glory. Glorious of the

7476
02:20:13,990 --> 02:20:14,000
and we saw his glory. Glorious of the
 

7477
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:15,590
and we saw his glory. Glorious of the
only begotten from the father full of

7478
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:15,600
only begotten from the father full of
 

7479
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:18,070
only begotten from the father full of
grace and truth. That word then took on

7480
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:18,080
grace and truth. That word then took on
 

7481
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:20,309
grace and truth. That word then took on
the material. It starts with

7482
02:20:20,309 --> 02:20:20,319
the material. It starts with
 

7483
02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:22,150
the material. It starts with
information. Always starts with

7484
02:20:22,150 --> 02:20:22,160
information. Always starts with
 

7485
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:25,190
information. Always starts with
information which itself is immaterial.

7486
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:25,200
information which itself is immaterial.
 

7487
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:26,790
information which itself is immaterial.
>> In the in the film in the story of

7488
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:26,800
>> In the in the film in the story of
 

7489
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:28,230
>> In the in the film in the story of
everything, Jim's got a great riff where

7490
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:28,240
everything, Jim's got a great riff where
 

7491
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:30,870
everything, Jim's got a great riff where
he says if we could we're asking the

7492
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:30,880
he says if we could we're asking the
 

7493
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:32,389
he says if we could we're asking the
wrong question. We need to start asking

7494
02:20:32,389 --> 02:20:32,399
wrong question. We need to start asking
 

7495
02:20:32,399 --> 02:20:33,990
wrong question. We need to start asking
about the origin of the code. Not just

7496
02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:34,000
about the origin of the code. Not just
 

7497
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,670
about the origin of the code. Not just
the origin of the molecules, but the

7498
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:35,680
the origin of the molecules, but the
 

7499
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:37,429
the origin of the molecules, but the
origin of the code that is

7500
02:20:37,429 --> 02:20:37,439
origin of the code that is
 

7501
02:20:37,439 --> 02:20:39,670
origin of the code that is
>> that's it. It's just the molecules. And

7502
02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:39,680
>> that's it. It's just the molecules. And
 

7503
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:41,270
>> that's it. It's just the molecules. And
he refuses to engage with the

7504
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:41,280
he refuses to engage with the
 

7505
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:42,790
he refuses to engage with the
explanations for how the molecules came

7506
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:42,800
explanations for how the molecules came
 

7507
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:43,910
explanations for how the molecules came
about

7508
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:43,920
about
 

7509
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:45,990
about
>> stored in the molecules. That's the real

7510
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:46,000
>> stored in the molecules. That's the real
 

7511
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:48,790
>> stored in the molecules. That's the real
question. And the real contrast here is

7512
02:20:48,790 --> 02:20:48,800
question. And the real contrast here is
 

7513
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:52,070
question. And the real contrast here is
very vivid because the materialistic

7514
02:20:52,070 --> 02:20:52,080
very vivid because the materialistic
 

7515
02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:54,630
very vivid because the materialistic
understanding of the universe starts

7516
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:54,640
understanding of the universe starts
 

7517
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:58,309
understanding of the universe starts
with mass energy or nothing actually and

7518
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:58,319
with mass energy or nothing actually and
 

7519
02:20:58,319 --> 02:21:02,469
with mass energy or nothing actually and
builds up by unguided materialist pro uh

7520
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:02,479
builds up by unguided materialist pro uh
 

7521
02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:05,590
builds up by unguided materialist pro uh
processes to produce information as an

7522
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:05,600
processes to produce information as an
 

7523
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:08,710
processes to produce information as an
end product. Whereas the worldview we're

7524
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:08,720
end product. Whereas the worldview we're
 

7525
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:11,190
end product. Whereas the worldview we're
talking about is the exact opposite.

7526
02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:11,200
talking about is the exact opposite.
 

7527
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:14,630
talking about is the exact opposite.
That mind is primary and mass energy in

7528
02:21:14,630 --> 02:21:14,640
That mind is primary and mass energy in
 

7529
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,349
That mind is primary and mass energy in
the universe are derivative. There's a

7530
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:17,359
the universe are derivative. There's a
 

7531
02:21:17,359 --> 02:21:17,750
the universe are derivative. There's a
col.

7532
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:17,760
col.
 

7533
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:19,590
col.
>> Yeah. You have blind faith in a deity.

7534
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:19,600
>> Yeah. You have blind faith in a deity.
 

7535
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:22,070
>> Yeah. You have blind faith in a deity.
That's uh that's that's what you're

7536
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:22,080
That's uh that's that's what you're
 

7537
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:23,349
That's uh that's that's what you're
bragging about. You're bragging about

7538
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:23,359
bragging about. You're bragging about
 

7539
02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:24,950
bragging about. You're bragging about
your blind faith in a deity.

7540
02:21:24,950 --> 02:21:24,960
your blind faith in a deity.
 

7541
02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:28,230
your blind faith in a deity.
>> Colossal clash. And I think that's where

7542
02:21:28,230 --> 02:21:28,240
>> Colossal clash. And I think that's where
 

7543
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:31,110
>> Colossal clash. And I think that's where
we can begin to understand the so

7544
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:31,120
we can begin to understand the so
 

7545
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:33,510
we can begin to understand the so
socalled clash between science and

7546
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:33,520
socalled clash between science and
 

7547
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:38,550
socalled clash between science and
religion. It is not a clash between um

7548
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:38,560
religion. It is not a clash between um
 

7549
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:42,389
religion. It is not a clash between um
science and God. It is that we're coming

7550
02:21:42,389 --> 02:21:42,399
science and God. It is that we're coming
 

7551
02:21:42,399 --> 02:21:47,030
science and God. It is that we're coming
up with two diametrically opposed world

7552
02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:47,040
up with two diametrically opposed world
 

7553
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:51,030
up with two diametrically opposed world
views. And you can see that the issue is

7554
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:51,040
views. And you can see that the issue is
 

7555
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,910
views. And you can see that the issue is
a worldview problem. Take the Nobel

7556
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:53,920
a worldview problem. Take the Nobel
 

7557
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:55,990
a worldview problem. Take the Nobel
Prize for physics.

7558
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:56,000
Prize for physics.
 

7559
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,550
Prize for physics.
Very simply there many atheists have won

7560
02:21:58,550 --> 02:21:58,560
Very simply there many atheists have won
 

7561
02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,110
Very simply there many atheists have won
it. Christians have won it. Their

7562
02:22:01,110 --> 02:22:01,120
it. Christians have won it. Their
 

7563
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:02,870
it. Christians have won it. Their
science doesn't divide them but their

7564
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:02,880
science doesn't divide them but their
 

7565
02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:05,190
science doesn't divide them but their
worldview does. Sorry, gentlemen.

7566
02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:05,200
worldview does. Sorry, gentlemen.
 

7567
02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:07,110
worldview does. Sorry, gentlemen.
>> No, it depends on the worldview, right?

7568
02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:07,120
>> No, it depends on the worldview, right?
 

7569
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:08,950
>> No, it depends on the worldview, right?
If you're the the worldviews that you're

7570
02:22:08,950 --> 02:22:08,960
If you're the the worldviews that you're
 

7571
02:22:08,960 --> 02:22:11,830
If you're the the worldviews that you're
comparing are ancient superstition

7572
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:11,840
comparing are ancient superstition
 

7573
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:14,870
comparing are ancient superstition
that's that contradicts science. That's

7574
02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:14,880
that's that contradicts science. That's
 

7575
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:16,710
that's that contradicts science. That's
not the same as believing in God. So,

7576
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:16,720
not the same as believing in God. So,
 

7577
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:18,710
not the same as believing in God. So,
you're trying to attack the atheists as

7578
02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:18,720
you're trying to attack the atheists as
 

7579
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:21,190
you're trying to attack the atheists as
you guys always do, angry atheists. But,

7580
02:22:21,190 --> 02:22:21,200
you guys always do, angry atheists. But,
 

7581
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:23,830
you guys always do, angry atheists. But,
um it is possible to believe in God and

7582
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:23,840
um it is possible to believe in God and
 

7583
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:25,510
um it is possible to believe in God and
accept science. That's not the kind of

7584
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:25,520
accept science. That's not the kind of
 

7585
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:28,950
accept science. That's not the kind of
God that you guys are uh proilitizing.

7586
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:28,960
God that you guys are uh proilitizing.
 

7587
02:22:28,960 --> 02:22:32,230
God that you guys are uh proilitizing.
>> We could talk about this for ages. Um

7588
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:32,240
>> We could talk about this for ages. Um
 

7589
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:35,030
>> We could talk about this for ages. Um
but we but last question I began with

7590
02:22:35,030 --> 02:22:35,040
but we but last question I began with
 

7591
02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:38,790
but we but last question I began with
Dawkins and Psalm 19 which deal with the

7592
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:38,800
Dawkins and Psalm 19 which deal with the
 

7593
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:40,950
Dawkins and Psalm 19 which deal with the
nature of the universe. Let me close

7594
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:40,960
nature of the universe. Let me close
 

7595
02:22:40,960 --> 02:22:44,790
nature of the universe. Let me close
with a question on the nature of man.

7596
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:44,800
with a question on the nature of man.
 

7597
02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:47,030
with a question on the nature of man.
The here's a quotation that sums up the

7598
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:47,040
The here's a quotation that sums up the
 

7599
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:50,389
The here's a quotation that sums up the
materialist worldview.

7600
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:50,399
materialist worldview.
 

7601
02:22:50,399 --> 02:22:54,150
materialist worldview.
It comes from a year 1907 when I think

7602
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:54,160
It comes from a year 1907 when I think
 

7603
02:22:54,160 --> 02:22:57,110
It comes from a year 1907 when I think
it probably still seemed brave and new

7604
02:22:57,110 --> 02:22:57,120
it probably still seemed brave and new
 

7605
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:00,950
it probably still seemed brave and new
and fresh to express this point of view.

7606
02:23:00,950 --> 02:23:00,960
and fresh to express this point of view.
 

7607
02:23:00,960 --> 02:23:03,910
and fresh to express this point of view.
The newness is gone. But in my judgment,

7608
02:23:03,910 --> 02:23:03,920
The newness is gone. But in my judgment,
 

7609
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:05,750
The newness is gone. But in my judgment,
the worldview

7610
02:23:05,750 --> 02:23:05,760
the worldview
 

7611
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:07,830
the worldview
lingers. It remains present if not in

7612
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:07,840
lingers. It remains present if not in
 

7613
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,469
lingers. It remains present if not in
the American Academy dominant.

7614
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:10,479
the American Academy dominant.
 

7615
02:23:10,479 --> 02:23:11,910
the American Academy dominant.
>> And so I'm going to read you this

7616
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:11,920
>> And so I'm going to read you this
 

7617
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,510
>> And so I'm going to read you this
quotation from 1907 Bertrand Russell.

7618
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:15,520
quotation from 1907 Bertrand Russell.
 

7619
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:17,270
quotation from 1907 Bertrand Russell.
>> You knew where I was going with it. I

7620
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:17,280
>> You knew where I was going with it. I
 

7621
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:17,990
>> You knew where I was going with it. I
afraid so.

7622
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:18,000
afraid so.
 

7623
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:20,710
afraid so.
>> And then I'd like to hear

7624
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:20,720
>> And then I'd like to hear
 

7625
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:22,309
>> And then I'd like to hear
Not so much how you would reply to Bert

7626
02:23:22,309 --> 02:23:22,319
Not so much how you would reply to Bert
 

7627
02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:24,389
Not so much how you would reply to Bert
and Russell who's been dead since 197

7628
02:23:24,389 --> 02:23:24,399
and Russell who's been dead since 197
 

7629
02:23:24,399 --> 02:23:26,150
and Russell who's been dead since 197
something or other, but how you would

7630
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:26,160
something or other, but how you would
 

7631
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:30,469
something or other, but how you would
reply to some student, a kid at Rice, a

7632
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:30,479
reply to some student, a kid at Rice, a
 

7633
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:33,750
reply to some student, a kid at Rice, a
kid at Oxford, um, who reads this and

7634
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:33,760
kid at Oxford, um, who reads this and
 

7635
02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:35,590
kid at Oxford, um, who reads this and
say, "Yeah, I think that that that seems

7636
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:35,600
say, "Yeah, I think that that that seems
 

7637
02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:37,270
say, "Yeah, I think that that that seems
to me to be the worldview that all the

7638
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:37,280
to me to be the worldview that all the
 

7639
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:39,910
to me to be the worldview that all the
really cool professors have." How do you

7640
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:39,920
really cool professors have." How do you
 

7641
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:41,830
really cool professors have." How do you
reply? How how would how do you speak to

7642
02:23:41,830 --> 02:23:41,840
reply? How how would how do you speak to
 

7643
02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:43,750
reply? How how would how do you speak to
that to a student who finds this

7644
02:23:43,750 --> 02:23:43,760
that to a student who finds this
 

7645
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:45,190
that to a student who finds this
impressive? And here it is. Here's the

7646
02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:45,200
impressive? And here it is. Here's the
 

7647
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:47,990
impressive? And here it is. Here's the
quotation. that man is the product of

7648
02:23:47,990 --> 02:23:48,000
quotation. that man is the product of
 

7649
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:50,230
quotation. that man is the product of
causes which had no provision of the end

7650
02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:50,240
causes which had no provision of the end
 

7651
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:53,190
causes which had no provision of the end
they were achieving. That his origin,

7652
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:53,200
they were achieving. That his origin,
 

7653
02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:56,070
they were achieving. That his origin,
his growth, his hopes and fears, his

7654
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:56,080
his growth, his hopes and fears, his
 

7655
02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:59,110
his growth, his hopes and fears, his
loves and beliefs are but the outcome of

7656
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:59,120
loves and beliefs are but the outcome of
 

7657
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:02,950
loves and beliefs are but the outcome of
accidental collocations of atoms, and

7658
02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:02,960
accidental collocations of atoms, and
 

7659
02:24:02,960 --> 02:24:04,550
accidental collocations of atoms, and
that the whole temple of man's

7660
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:04,560
that the whole temple of man's
 

7661
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:08,070
that the whole temple of man's
achievement must inevitably be buried

7662
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:08,080
achievement must inevitably be buried
 

7663
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:10,309
achievement must inevitably be buried
beneath the debris of a universe in

7664
02:24:10,309 --> 02:24:10,319
beneath the debris of a universe in
 

7665
02:24:10,319 --> 02:24:13,910
beneath the debris of a universe in
ruins. All these things, if not quite

7666
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:13,920
ruins. All these things, if not quite
 

7667
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:17,030
ruins. All these things, if not quite
beyond dispute, are yet so nearly

7668
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:17,040
beyond dispute, are yet so nearly
 

7669
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:20,150
beyond dispute, are yet so nearly
certain that no philosophy which rejects

7670
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:20,160
certain that no philosophy which rejects
 

7671
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:24,790
certain that no philosophy which rejects
them can hope to stand.

7672
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:24,800
them can hope to stand.
 

7673
02:24:24,800 --> 02:24:27,030
them can hope to stand.
Oh my god, I'm not the special creation

7674
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:27,040
Oh my god, I'm not the special creation
 

7675
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,429
Oh my god, I'm not the special creation
of a deity that that made the universe

7676
02:24:29,429 --> 02:24:29,439
of a deity that that made the universe
 

7677
02:24:29,439 --> 02:24:32,389
of a deity that that made the universe
just for me. Oh no, my whole reality is

7678
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:32,399
just for me. Oh no, my whole reality is
 

7679
02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:36,150
just for me. Oh no, my whole reality is
unraveling. Um, brave to say it at that

7680
02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:36,160
unraveling. Um, brave to say it at that
 

7681
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:37,830
unraveling. Um, brave to say it at that
time, but Bertran Russell is a smart

7682
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:37,840
time, but Bertran Russell is a smart
 

7683
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:38,710
time, but Bertran Russell is a smart
dude. So

7684
02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:38,720
dude. So
 

7685
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:41,190
dude. So
>> Jim Tour, how do you how do you

7686
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:41,200
>> Jim Tour, how do you how do you
 

7687
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:43,750
>> Jim Tour, how do you how do you
>> I would just say how do you know that?

7688
02:24:43,750 --> 02:24:43,760
>> I would just say how do you know that?
 

7689
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:45,750
>> I would just say how do you know that?
How how can you know that? Tell tell me

7690
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:45,760
How how can you know that? Tell tell me
 

7691
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:47,510
How how can you know that? Tell tell me
what's the measurement?

7692
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:47,520
what's the measurement?
 

7693
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:50,870
what's the measurement?
>> But how come though, Birdie? How come?

7694
02:24:50,870 --> 02:24:50,880
>> But how come though, Birdie? How come?
 

7695
02:24:50,880 --> 02:24:53,270
>> But how come though, Birdie? How come?
How do you measure that? How do you do a

7696
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:53,280
How do you measure that? How do you do a
 

7697
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:55,349
How do you measure that? How do you do a
measurement? My god, the [\h__\h] like

7698
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:55,359
measurement? My god, the [\h__\h] like
 

7699
02:24:55,359 --> 02:24:57,429
measurement? My god, the [\h__\h] like
moments like these where you catch James

7700
02:24:57,429 --> 02:24:57,439
moments like these where you catch James
 

7701
02:24:57,439 --> 02:24:58,950
moments like these where you catch James
offguard with a quote are where you

7702
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:58,960
offguard with a quote are where you
 

7703
02:24:58,960 --> 02:25:00,550
offguard with a quote are where you
really see how [\h__\h] dumb this guy

7704
02:25:00,550 --> 02:25:00,560
really see how [\h__\h] dumb this guy
 

7705
02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:02,230
really see how [\h__\h] dumb this guy
actually is. That allows you to know

7706
02:25:02,230 --> 02:25:02,240
actually is. That allows you to know
 

7707
02:25:02,240 --> 02:25:05,830
actually is. That allows you to know
that and it would wither immediately.

7708
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:05,840
that and it would wither immediately.
 

7709
02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:07,270
that and it would wither immediately.
There's no there's no evidence that

7710
02:25:07,270 --> 02:25:07,280
There's no there's no evidence that
 

7711
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:08,230
There's no there's no evidence that
could show that

7712
02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:08,240
could show that
 

7713
02:25:08,240 --> 02:25:09,429
could show that
>> John.

7714
02:25:09,429 --> 02:25:09,439
>> John.
 

7715
02:25:09,439 --> 02:25:13,349
>> John.
>> Well, I would say that statement, as my

7716
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:13,359
>> Well, I would say that statement, as my
 

7717
02:25:13,359 --> 02:25:15,830
>> Well, I would say that statement, as my
teacher of quantum mechanics, Sir John

7718
02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:15,840
teacher of quantum mechanics, Sir John
 

7719
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,150
teacher of quantum mechanics, Sir John
Paulyhorn, pointed out, is

7720
02:25:18,150 --> 02:25:18,160
Paulyhorn, pointed out, is
 

7721
02:25:18,160 --> 02:25:20,870
Paulyhorn, pointed out, is
self-refuting, that if it was true, we

7722
02:25:20,870 --> 02:25:20,880
self-refuting, that if it was true, we
 

7723
02:25:20,880 --> 02:25:24,469
self-refuting, that if it was true, we
couldn't possibly know it. And he points

7724
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:24,479
couldn't possibly know it. And he points
 

7725
02:25:24,479 --> 02:25:26,870
couldn't possibly know it. And he points
out that that kind of explanation.

7726
02:25:26,870 --> 02:25:26,880
out that that kind of explanation.
 

7727
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:29,190
out that that kind of explanation.
>> Why? Why couldn't we know that? You're

7728
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:29,200
>> Why? Why couldn't we know that? You're
 

7729
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:30,950
>> Why? Why couldn't we know that? You're
just baselessly asserting that. Why

7730
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:30,960
just baselessly asserting that. Why
 

7731
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:33,750
just baselessly asserting that. Why
couldn't we? I mean, it's hard it's hard

7732
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:33,760
couldn't we? I mean, it's hard it's hard
 

7733
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:35,030
couldn't we? I mean, it's hard it's hard
to say that we would know that there

7734
02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:35,040
to say that we would know that there
 

7735
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:36,790
to say that we would know that there
would be no God, but he's clearly

7736
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:36,800
would be no God, but he's clearly
 

7737
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:39,110
would be no God, but he's clearly
talking about the gods of religions,

7738
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:39,120
talking about the gods of religions,
 

7739
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:41,670
talking about the gods of religions,
right? He's disavowing the idea of

7740
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:41,680
right? He's disavowing the idea of
 

7741
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:44,309
right? He's disavowing the idea of
special creation with uh from a deity

7742
02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:44,319
special creation with uh from a deity
 

7743
02:25:44,319 --> 02:25:46,950
special creation with uh from a deity
with intent that that also intends

7744
02:25:46,950 --> 02:25:46,960
with intent that that also intends
 

7745
02:25:46,960 --> 02:25:49,190
with intent that that also intends
things of us, right? It's a disavow of

7746
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:49,200
things of us, right? It's a disavow of
 

7747
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:50,870
things of us, right? It's a disavow of
this idea that like we're here because

7748
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:50,880
this idea that like we're here because
 

7749
02:25:50,880 --> 02:25:52,389
this idea that like we're here because
that God made us and he wants us to do

7750
02:25:52,389 --> 02:25:52,399
that God made us and he wants us to do
 

7751
02:25:52,399 --> 02:25:54,790
that God made us and he wants us to do
these things um which often include

7752
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:54,800
these things um which often include
 

7753
02:25:54,800 --> 02:25:57,110
these things um which often include
killing a particular type of people or

7754
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:57,120
killing a particular type of people or
 

7755
02:25:57,120 --> 02:25:59,110
killing a particular type of people or
or dominating a particular type of

7756
02:25:59,110 --> 02:25:59,120
or dominating a particular type of
 

7757
02:25:59,120 --> 02:26:01,030
or dominating a particular type of
people, right? It's it's it's a very

7758
02:26:01,030 --> 02:26:01,040
people, right? It's it's it's a very
 

7759
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:03,030
people, right? It's it's it's a very
important step in human progress to go,

7760
02:26:03,030 --> 02:26:03,040
important step in human progress to go,
 

7761
02:26:03,040 --> 02:26:05,110
important step in human progress to go,
hey, you know what? Saying we're going

7762
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:05,120
hey, you know what? Saying we're going
 

7763
02:26:05,120 --> 02:26:06,790
hey, you know what? Saying we're going
to murder these indigenous people and

7764
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:06,800
to murder these indigenous people and
 

7765
02:26:06,800 --> 02:26:08,309
to murder these indigenous people and
take their land because God told us we

7766
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:08,319
take their land because God told us we
 

7767
02:26:08,319 --> 02:26:10,550
take their land because God told us we
can do it. To disavow that is pretty

7768
02:26:10,550 --> 02:26:10,560
can do it. To disavow that is pretty
 

7769
02:26:10,560 --> 02:26:12,550
can do it. To disavow that is pretty
[\h__\h] good thing. I feel like that's

7770
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:12,560
[\h__\h] good thing. I feel like that's
 

7771
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:14,710
[\h__\h] good thing. I feel like that's
kind of the main spirit of a quote like

7772
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:14,720
kind of the main spirit of a quote like
 

7773
02:26:14,720 --> 02:26:17,349
kind of the main spirit of a quote like
that. But uh no, I mean all of these

7774
02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:17,359
that. But uh no, I mean all of these
 

7775
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:19,750
that. But uh no, I mean all of these
guys are are probably Zionists, so they

7776
02:26:19,750 --> 02:26:19,760
guys are are probably Zionists, so they
 

7777
02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:21,990
guys are are probably Zionists, so they
probably disavow the idea that that

7778
02:26:21,990 --> 02:26:22,000
probably disavow the idea that that
 

7779
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:23,510
probably disavow the idea that that
there can't be a chosen people that can

7780
02:26:23,510 --> 02:26:23,520
there can't be a chosen people that can
 

7781
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,590
there can't be a chosen people that can
take whatever they want. So, yep.

7782
02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:25,600
take whatever they want. So, yep.
 

7783
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:28,950
take whatever they want. So, yep.
reduces thought to the random motions of

7784
02:26:28,950 --> 02:26:28,960
reduces thought to the random motions of
 

7785
02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:32,309
reduces thought to the random motions of
atoms and so it dissolves thought so

7786
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:32,319
atoms and so it dissolves thought so
 

7787
02:26:32,319 --> 02:26:34,630
atoms and so it dissolves thought so
that what he is talking is sheer

7788
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:34,640
that what he is talking is sheer
 

7789
02:26:34,640 --> 02:26:36,950
that what he is talking is sheer
self-contradictory nonsense

7790
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:36,960
self-contradictory nonsense
 

7791
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:39,750
self-contradictory nonsense
>> it's not though because there so you're

7792
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:39,760
>> it's not though because there so you're
 

7793
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:41,910
>> it's not though because there so you're
trying to imply that there must be souls

7794
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:41,920
trying to imply that there must be souls
 

7795
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:45,349
trying to imply that there must be souls
which you can't substantiate so uh sorry

7796
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:45,359
which you can't substantiate so uh sorry
 

7797
02:26:45,359 --> 02:26:48,150
which you can't substantiate so uh sorry
>> when I was in Cambridge I saw the window

7798
02:26:48,150 --> 02:26:48,160
>> when I was in Cambridge I saw the window
 

7799
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:51,110
>> when I was in Cambridge I saw the window
a book why I am not a Christian by

7800
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:51,120
a book why I am not a Christian by
 

7801
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:53,750
a book why I am not a Christian by
Burton Russell I walked up and down dare

7802
02:26:53,750 --> 02:26:53,760
Burton Russell I walked up and down dare
 

7803
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:56,550
Burton Russell I walked up and down dare
I read it I read it and it confirmed my

7804
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:56,560
I read it I read it and it confirmed my
 

7805
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:59,910
I read it I read it and it confirmed my
Christianity because it seemed to me he

7806
02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:59,920
Christianity because it seemed to me he
 

7807
02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:03,990
Christianity because it seemed to me he
had never begun to understand what the

7808
02:27:03,990 --> 02:27:04,000
had never begun to understand what the
 

7809
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:06,070
had never begun to understand what the
message of Christianity or indeed

7810
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:06,080
message of Christianity or indeed
 

7811
02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:07,510
message of Christianity or indeed
biblical theism was.

7812
02:27:07,510 --> 02:27:07,520
biblical theism was.
 

7813
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:09,510
biblical theism was.
>> He's just a dummy. You guys don't read

7814
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:09,520
>> He's just a dummy. You guys don't read
 

7815
02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:11,190
>> He's just a dummy. You guys don't read
the book. Don't even read it. I read it

7816
02:27:11,190 --> 02:27:11,200
the book. Don't even read it. I read it
 

7817
02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:14,630
the book. Don't even read it. I read it
for you and it sucks. Don't read it.

7818
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:14,640
for you and it sucks. Don't read it.
 

7819
02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:16,950
for you and it sucks. Don't read it.
>> Steve, may I segue from Russell back to

7820
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:16,960
>> Steve, may I segue from Russell back to
 

7821
02:27:16,960 --> 02:27:18,790
>> Steve, may I segue from Russell back to
the original quote from Dawkins because

7822
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:18,800
the original quote from Dawkins because
 

7823
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:20,550
the original quote from Dawkins because
they're very similar. Sure. Remember

7824
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:20,560
they're very similar. Sure. Remember
 

7825
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:22,389
they're very similar. Sure. Remember
remember he his framing was

7826
02:27:22,389 --> 02:27:22,399
remember he his framing was
 

7827
02:27:22,399 --> 02:27:23,670
remember he his framing was
>> nothing but pitilous indifference.

7828
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:23,680
>> nothing but pitilous indifference.
 

7829
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:24,950
>> nothing but pitilous indifference.
>> Yeah. The universe we observe has

7830
02:27:24,950 --> 02:27:24,960
>> Yeah. The universe we observe has
 

7831
02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:27,110
>> Yeah. The universe we observe has
exactly the properties we should expect

7832
02:27:27,110 --> 02:27:27,120
exactly the properties we should expect
 

7833
02:27:27,120 --> 02:27:29,510
exactly the properties we should expect
if at bottom there's no design, no

7834
02:27:29,510 --> 02:27:29,520
if at bottom there's no design, no
 

7835
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:31,110
if at bottom there's no design, no
purpose, nothing but blind, pitiles

7836
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:31,120
purpose, nothing but blind, pitiles
 

7837
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:33,270
purpose, nothing but blind, pitiles
indifference. It's a wonderful quote in

7838
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:33,280
indifference. It's a wonderful quote in
 

7839
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:35,030
indifference. It's a wonderful quote in
that it suggests that metaphysical

7840
02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:35,040
that it suggests that metaphysical
 

7841
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:37,590
that it suggests that metaphysical
systems of thought, worldviews are as

7842
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:37,600
systems of thought, worldviews are as
 

7843
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:39,830
systems of thought, worldviews are as
testable by looking at the world as

7844
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:39,840
testable by looking at the world as
 

7845
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:42,469
testable by looking at the world as
scientific hypotheses are. And what the

7846
02:27:42,469 --> 02:27:42,479
scientific hypotheses are. And what the
 

7847
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:44,230
scientific hypotheses are. And what the
the argument that we've been making and

7848
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:44,240
the argument that we've been making and
 

7849
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:45,750
the argument that we've been making and
the argument that comes through in the

7850
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:45,760
the argument that comes through in the
 

7851
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:48,070
the argument that comes through in the
the film you've you've highlighted is

7852
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:48,080
the film you've you've highlighted is
 

7853
02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:50,950
the film you've you've highlighted is
that the big discoveries of of 20th and

7854
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:50,960
that the big discoveries of of 20th and
 

7855
02:27:50,960 --> 02:27:53,190
that the big discoveries of of 20th and
21st century of science are not at all

7856
02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:53,200
21st century of science are not at all
 

7857
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:54,309
21st century of science are not at all
what you would expect from a

7858
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:54,319
what you would expect from a
 

7859
02:27:54,319 --> 02:27:55,990
what you would expect from a
materialistic point of view. The

7860
02:27:55,990 --> 02:27:56,000
materialistic point of view. The
 

7861
02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:57,750
materialistic point of view. The
materialists did not expect they

7862
02:27:57,750 --> 02:27:57,760
materialists did not expect they
 

7863
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,070
materialists did not expect they
expected an infinitely old universe that

7864
02:28:00,070 --> 02:28:00,080
expected an infinitely old universe that
 

7865
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:01,670
expected an infinitely old universe that
never had a beginning. But what we

7866
02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:01,680
never had a beginning. But what we
 

7867
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,110
never had a beginning. But what we
discovered is that the universe had a

7868
02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:03,120
discovered is that the universe had a
 

7869
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:05,110
discovered is that the universe had a
beginning. They didn't expect that the

7870
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:05,120
beginning. They didn't expect that the
 

7871
02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:07,030
beginning. They didn't expect that the
universe would be finely tuned against

7872
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:07,040
universe would be finely tuned against
 

7873
02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:09,270
universe would be finely tuned against
all odds to allow for the possibility of

7874
02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:09,280
all odds to allow for the possibility of
 

7875
02:28:09,280 --> 02:28:12,309
all odds to allow for the possibility of
life. Materialism has nothing to do with

7876
02:28:12,309 --> 02:28:12,319
life. Materialism has nothing to do with
 

7877
02:28:12,319 --> 02:28:14,389
life. Materialism has nothing to do with
assuming that a universe would be

7878
02:28:14,389 --> 02:28:14,399
assuming that a universe would be
 

7879
02:28:14,399 --> 02:28:16,150
assuming that a universe would be
infinite. That doesn't mean anything.

7880
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:16,160
infinite. That doesn't mean anything.
 

7881
02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:18,150
infinite. That doesn't mean anything.
Um, you're just trying to highlight the

7882
02:28:18,150 --> 02:28:18,160
Um, you're just trying to highlight the
 

7883
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:20,790
Um, you're just trying to highlight the
science that you think confirms uh any

7884
02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:20,800
science that you think confirms uh any
 

7885
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:22,950
science that you think confirms uh any
of this [\h__\h] Um, yeah. No, this is

7886
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:22,960
of this [\h__\h] Um, yeah. No, this is
 

7887
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:24,710
of this [\h__\h] Um, yeah. No, this is
>> when Hy discovered that, he was shocked

7888
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:24,720
>> when Hy discovered that, he was shocked
 

7889
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:26,870
>> when Hy discovered that, he was shocked
and it shocked him out of his atheism.

7890
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:26,880
and it shocked him out of his atheism.
 

7891
02:28:26,880 --> 02:28:28,710
and it shocked him out of his atheism.
Nobody expected the digital

7892
02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:28,720
Nobody expected the digital
 

7893
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:30,790
Nobody expected the digital
nanotechnology that's been found inside

7894
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:30,800
nanotechnology that's been found inside
 

7895
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:33,190
nanotechnology that's been found inside
cells. And in fact, Dawkins recently was

7896
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:33,200
cells. And in fact, Dawkins recently was
 

7897
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:33,830
cells. And in fact, Dawkins recently was
quoted

7898
02:28:33,830 --> 02:28:33,840
quoted
 

7899
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,710
quoted
>> digital nanotechnology inside cells.

7900
02:28:36,710 --> 02:28:36,720
>> digital nanotechnology inside cells.
 

7901
02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:38,950
>> digital nanotechnology inside cells.
This [\h__\h] [\h__\h] just said digital

7902
02:28:38,950 --> 02:28:38,960
This [\h__\h] [\h__\h] just said digital
 

7903
02:28:38,960 --> 02:28:41,590
This [\h__\h] [\h__\h] just said digital
nanotechnology inside cells. So

7904
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:41,600
nanotechnology inside cells. So
 

7905
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:44,870
nanotechnology inside cells. So
molecules are technology now because it

7906
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:44,880
molecules are technology now because it
 

7907
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:46,870
molecules are technology now because it
has to be tech because we make tech and

7908
02:28:46,870 --> 02:28:46,880
has to be tech because we make tech and
 

7909
02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:48,790
has to be tech because we make tech and
we make things and therefore it's tech

7910
02:28:48,790 --> 02:28:48,800
we make things and therefore it's tech
 

7911
02:28:48,800 --> 02:28:51,670
we make things and therefore it's tech
so God made it. So that like it's just

7912
02:28:51,670 --> 02:28:51,680
so God made it. So that like it's just
 

7913
02:28:51,680 --> 02:28:54,309
so God made it. So that like it's just
the [\h__\h] pageantry, dude. It's just

7914
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:54,319
the [\h__\h] pageantry, dude. It's just
 

7915
02:28:54,319 --> 02:28:56,790
the [\h__\h] pageantry, dude. It's just
he they want to pretend that modern

7916
02:28:56,790 --> 02:28:56,800
he they want to pretend that modern
 

7917
02:28:56,800 --> 02:28:59,110
he they want to pretend that modern
science confirms God. And here are a

7918
02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:59,120
science confirms God. And here are a
 

7919
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:00,870
science confirms God. And here are a
bunch of examples that don't at all

7920
02:29:00,870 --> 02:29:00,880
bunch of examples that don't at all
 

7921
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:02,710
bunch of examples that don't at all
support that because we're lying the

7922
02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:02,720
support that because we're lying the
 

7923
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:04,710
support that because we're lying the
entire time about all of it. quoted as

7924
02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:04,720
entire time about all of it. quoted as
 

7925
02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:07,349
entire time about all of it. quoted as
saying he was knocked sideways with with

7926
02:29:07,349 --> 02:29:07,359
saying he was knocked sideways with with
 

7927
02:29:07,359 --> 02:29:10,230
saying he was knocked sideways with with
wonder upon seeing an animation of the

7928
02:29:10,230 --> 02:29:10,240
wonder upon seeing an animation of the
 

7929
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:12,950
wonder upon seeing an animation of the
DNA uh uh information processing system

7930
02:29:12,950 --> 02:29:12,960
DNA uh uh information processing system
 

7931
02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:15,510
DNA uh uh information processing system
that an Australian group rendered. So

7932
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:15,520
that an Australian group rendered. So
 

7933
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,030
that an Australian group rendered. So
all of these things, the complexity of

7934
02:29:17,030 --> 02:29:17,040
all of these things, the complexity of
 

7935
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:19,110
all of these things, the complexity of
the cell, the finetuning of the universe

7936
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:19,120
the cell, the finetuning of the universe
 

7937
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:22,150
the cell, the finetuning of the universe
and its origin a finite time ago are all

7938
02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:22,160
and its origin a finite time ago are all
 

7939
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,990
and its origin a finite time ago are all
completely unexpected from a from a

7940
02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:24,000
completely unexpected from a from a
 

7941
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:25,670
completely unexpected from a from a
materialistic point of view, but they're

7942
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:25,680
materialistic point of view, but they're
 

7943
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:27,429
materialistic point of view, but they're
exactly what you would expect from a

7944
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:27,439
exactly what you would expect from a
 

7945
02:29:27,439 --> 02:29:29,349
exactly what you would expect from a
theistic point of view. That is to say,

7946
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:29,359
theistic point of view. That is to say,
 

7947
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:31,030
theistic point of view. That is to say,
the the worldview that affirms the

7948
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:31,040
the the worldview that affirms the
 

7949
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:32,630
the the worldview that affirms the
reality of a transcendent and

7950
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:32,640
reality of a transcendent and
 

7951
02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:34,389
reality of a transcendent and
intelligent creator.

7952
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:34,399
intelligent creator.
 

7953
02:29:34,399 --> 02:29:36,469
intelligent creator.
>> No, not at all. And we could talk for

7954
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:36,479
>> No, not at all. And we could talk for
 

7955
02:29:36,479 --> 02:29:38,389
>> No, not at all. And we could talk for
hours about all the examples within

7956
02:29:38,389 --> 02:29:38,399
hours about all the examples within
 

7957
02:29:38,399 --> 02:29:41,190
hours about all the examples within
biology uh that make absolutely zero

7958
02:29:41,190 --> 02:29:41,200
biology uh that make absolutely zero
 

7959
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:43,190
biology uh that make absolutely zero
sense from a design standpoint, but

7960
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:43,200
sense from a design standpoint, but
 

7961
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:44,550
sense from a design standpoint, but
that's going to have to be for another

7962
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:44,560
that's going to have to be for another
 

7963
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:46,309
that's going to have to be for another
day. I'm [\h__\h] tired. This has been

7964
02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:46,319
day. I'm [\h__\h] tired. This has been
 

7965
02:29:46,319 --> 02:29:48,150
day. I'm [\h__\h] tired. This has been
long as hell. Let's wrap it up.

7966
02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:48,160
long as hell. Let's wrap it up.
 

7967
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:51,590
long as hell. Let's wrap it up.
>> Steve Meyer, Jim Tour, and John Lennox.

7968
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:51,600
>> Steve Meyer, Jim Tour, and John Lennox.
 

7969
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:54,070
>> Steve Meyer, Jim Tour, and John Lennox.
Thank you, gentlemen. for Uncommon

7970
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:54,080
Thank you, gentlemen. for Uncommon
 

7971
02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:55,910
Thank you, gentlemen. for Uncommon
Knowledge, the Hoover Institution, and

7972
02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:55,920
Knowledge, the Hoover Institution, and
 

7973
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:17,910
Knowledge, the Hoover Institution, and
Fox Nation. I'm Peter Robinson.

7974
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:17,920

 

7975
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:21,670

Wow, what a waste of time. I mean, not

7976
02:30:21,670 --> 02:30:21,680
Wow, what a waste of time. I mean, not
 

7977
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,070
Wow, what a waste of time. I mean, not
not for for me. This is good stuff for

7978
02:30:24,070 --> 02:30:24,080
not for for me. This is good stuff for
 

7979
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:27,030
not for for me. This is good stuff for
me, but um what what a what a [\h__\h]

7980
02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:27,040
me, but um what what a what a [\h__\h]
 

7981
02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:29,510
me, but um what what a what a [\h__\h]
waste of a conversation. It's just like

7982
02:30:29,510 --> 02:30:29,520
waste of a conversation. It's just like
 

7983
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:31,270
waste of a conversation. It's just like
I mean, I'm not surprised obviously at

7984
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:31,280
I mean, I'm not surprised obviously at
 

7985
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:33,510
I mean, I'm not surprised obviously at
this point. It is the same goddamn

7986
02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:33,520
this point. It is the same goddamn
 

7987
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:36,070
this point. It is the same goddamn
talking points every time. Look how

7988
02:30:36,070 --> 02:30:36,080
talking points every time. Look how
 

7989
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:39,190
talking points every time. Look how
complicated a cell is, therefore God. Uh

7990
02:30:39,190 --> 02:30:39,200
complicated a cell is, therefore God. Uh
 

7991
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:42,070
complicated a cell is, therefore God. Uh
all of this [\h__\h] is just same same crap

7992
02:30:42,070 --> 02:30:42,080
all of this [\h__\h] is just same same crap
 

7993
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,790
all of this [\h__\h] is just same same crap
every time. So, uh hopefully that was

7994
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:44,800
every time. So, uh hopefully that was
 

7995
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:46,550
every time. So, uh hopefully that was
fun for you guys. That was man that

7996
02:30:46,550 --> 02:30:46,560
fun for you guys. That was man that
 

7997
02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:48,790
fun for you guys. That was man that
ended up being uh well that was what

7998
02:30:48,790 --> 02:30:48,800
ended up being uh well that was what
 

7999
02:30:48,800 --> 02:30:51,270
ended up being uh well that was what
probably coming up close to to 3 hours

8000
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:51,280
probably coming up close to to 3 hours
 

8001
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:52,710
probably coming up close to to 3 hours
two and a half between two and a half

8002
02:30:52,710 --> 02:30:52,720
two and a half between two and a half
 

8003
02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:55,990
two and a half between two and a half
and three hours. Um so that was that I'm

8004
02:30:55,990 --> 02:30:56,000
and three hours. Um so that was that I'm
 

8005
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:57,670
and three hours. Um so that was that I'm
going to do more on Meer. I got I think

8006
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:57,680
going to do more on Meer. I got I think
 

8007
02:30:57,680 --> 02:31:00,630
going to do more on Meer. I got I think
I have another different video uh that I

8008
02:31:00,630 --> 02:31:00,640
I have another different video uh that I
 

8009
02:31:00,640 --> 02:31:01,910
I have another different video uh that I
was going to react to at some point

8010
02:31:01,910 --> 02:31:01,920
was going to react to at some point
 

8011
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:04,070
was going to react to at some point
there. Once again, if anyone can find a

8012
02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:04,080
there. Once again, if anyone can find a
 

8013
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:06,550
there. Once again, if anyone can find a
bootleg of that theatrical release, I

8014
02:31:06,550 --> 02:31:06,560
bootleg of that theatrical release, I
 

8015
02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:08,070
bootleg of that theatrical release, I
will obviously want to do something on

8016
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:08,080
will obviously want to do something on
 

8017
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:10,950
will obviously want to do something on
that. Um, but just in general, yeah, I

8018
02:31:10,950 --> 02:31:10,960
that. Um, but just in general, yeah, I
 

8019
02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:12,309
that. Um, but just in general, yeah, I
just learned that James Tour wrote a

8020
02:31:12,309 --> 02:31:12,319
just learned that James Tour wrote a
 

8021
02:31:12,319 --> 02:31:14,309
just learned that James Tour wrote a
book, so maybe I'll hunt hunt that down

8022
02:31:14,309 --> 02:31:14,319
book, so maybe I'll hunt hunt that down
 

8023
02:31:14,319 --> 02:31:17,349
book, so maybe I'll hunt hunt that down
and make fun of that. Um, never ending

8024
02:31:17,349 --> 02:31:17,359
and make fun of that. Um, never ending
 

8025
02:31:17,359 --> 02:31:19,510
and make fun of that. Um, never ending
uh party with these guys. Just so much

8026
02:31:19,510 --> 02:31:19,520
uh party with these guys. Just so much
 

8027
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:21,670
uh party with these guys. Just so much
[\h__\h] to make fun of all the time. Um,

8028
02:31:21,670 --> 02:31:21,680
[\h__\h] to make fun of all the time. Um,
 

8029
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:24,550
[\h__\h] to make fun of all the time. Um,
and also increasingly urgent as we are

8030
02:31:24,550 --> 02:31:24,560
and also increasingly urgent as we are
 

8031
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:27,830
and also increasingly urgent as we are
seeing uh project 2025 enacted in real

8032
02:31:27,830 --> 02:31:27,840
seeing uh project 2025 enacted in real
 

8033
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:30,309
seeing uh project 2025 enacted in real
time and uh these ass hats are part of

8034
02:31:30,309 --> 02:31:30,319
time and uh these ass hats are part of
 

8035
02:31:30,319 --> 02:31:32,389
time and uh these ass hats are part of
that. So uh hopefully you got something

8036
02:31:32,389 --> 02:31:32,399
that. So uh hopefully you got something
 

8037
02:31:32,399 --> 02:31:34,550
that. So uh hopefully you got something
out of that. Uh as always, thanks for

8038
02:31:34,550 --> 02:31:34,560
out of that. Uh as always, thanks for
 

8039
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:37,680
out of that. Uh as always, thanks for
watching. I'll see you next time.