1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,470 Hey everyone, as you know, I debunk all 2 00:00:02,470 --> 00:00:02,480 Hey everyone, as you know, I debunk all 3 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,630 Hey everyone, as you know, I debunk all kinds of frauds who pedal lies that 4 00:00:04,630 --> 00:00:04,640 kinds of frauds who pedal lies that 5 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,789 kinds of frauds who pedal lies that poison public perception of science. But 6 00:00:06,789 --> 00:00:06,799 poison public perception of science. But 7 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:08,629 poison public perception of science. But sometimes it's a good idea to highlight 8 00:00:08,629 --> 00:00:08,639 sometimes it's a good idea to highlight 9 00:00:08,639 --> 00:00:10,950 sometimes it's a good idea to highlight innovative and inspirational science as 10 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:10,960 innovative and inspirational science as 11 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,709 innovative and inspirational science as well. Stuff that actually helps the 12 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:12,719 well. Stuff that actually helps the 13 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:14,870 well. Stuff that actually helps the environment and pushes humanity into the 14 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:14,880 environment and pushes humanity into the 15 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,790 environment and pushes humanity into the future. Today, we will do just that. So, 16 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:16,800 future. Today, we will do just that. So, 17 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,269 future. Today, we will do just that. So, let's get started. As I've said before, 18 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:19,279 let's get started. As I've said before, 19 00:00:19,279 --> 00:00:20,950 let's get started. As I've said before, most recently after this video, 20 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:20,960 most recently after this video, 21 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,429 most recently after this video, disarming common climate change tropes. 22 00:00:23,429 --> 00:00:23,439 disarming common climate change tropes. 23 00:00:23,439 --> 00:00:25,509 disarming common climate change tropes. Despite the pessimism that results from 24 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:25,519 Despite the pessimism that results from 25 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:27,029 Despite the pessimism that results from watching things like climate change 26 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:27,039 watching things like climate change 27 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:29,269 watching things like climate change denial become so widespread, I can 28 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:29,279 denial become so widespread, I can 29 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,589 denial become so widespread, I can always regain some optimism by learning 30 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:31,599 always regain some optimism by learning 31 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:33,910 always regain some optimism by learning about incredible new science. Science 32 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:33,920 about incredible new science. Science 33 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,830 about incredible new science. Science that can potentially solve so many 34 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:35,840 that can potentially solve so many 35 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,069 that can potentially solve so many industryinduced problems and bring us 36 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:38,079 industryinduced problems and bring us 37 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:40,310 industryinduced problems and bring us towards greater sustainability. Some 38 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:40,320 towards greater sustainability. Some 39 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,310 towards greater sustainability. Some examples would be techniques in 40 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:42,320 examples would be techniques in 41 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,389 examples would be techniques in synthetic biology that I highlighted in 42 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:44,399 synthetic biology that I highlighted in 43 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:46,950 synthetic biology that I highlighted in my biology series whereby genetically 44 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:46,960 my biology series whereby genetically 45 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,190 my biology series whereby genetically engineered microorganisms can use 46 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:49,200 engineered microorganisms can use 47 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,069 engineered microorganisms can use tailormade enzymes to mass-roduce useful 48 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:52,079 tailormade enzymes to mass-roduce useful 49 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:54,310 tailormade enzymes to mass-roduce useful materials or even drugs thereby 50 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:54,320 materials or even drugs thereby 51 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,830 materials or even drugs thereby relieving some of the demand for 52 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:55,840 relieving some of the demand for 53 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,750 relieving some of the demand for petroleum. We can envision other 54 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:57,760 petroleum. We can envision other 55 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,910 petroleum. We can envision other microorganisms that are engineered to 56 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:59,920 microorganisms that are engineered to 57 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,510 microorganisms that are engineered to reduce the carbon content of the 58 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:01,520 reduce the carbon content of the 59 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,750 reduce the carbon content of the atmosphere. But we are currently using 60 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:03,760 atmosphere. But we are currently using 61 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,910 atmosphere. But we are currently using naturally occurring microbes for another 62 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:05,920 naturally occurring microbes for another 63 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,149 naturally occurring microbes for another very important task and that is to 64 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:08,159 very important task and that is to 65 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:10,789 very important task and that is to digest organic waste and turn it into 66 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:10,799 digest organic waste and turn it into 67 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:12,870 digest organic waste and turn it into usable energy. We're talking about 68 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:12,880 usable energy. We're talking about 69 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,109 usable energy. We're talking about taking food waste and agricultural 70 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:15,119 taking food waste and agricultural 71 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:17,590 taking food waste and agricultural residue and converting it directly into 72 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:17,600 residue and converting it directly into 73 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,310 residue and converting it directly into renewable fuel and electricity. This is 74 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:20,320 renewable fuel and electricity. This is 75 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:22,630 renewable fuel and electricity. This is doubly impactful since we are taking 76 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:22,640 doubly impactful since we are taking 77 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,390 doubly impactful since we are taking material that would be going to a 78 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:24,400 material that would be going to a 79 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,030 material that would be going to a landfill where it actively does harm and 80 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:27,040 landfill where it actively does harm and 81 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,429 landfill where it actively does harm and instead using it to generate energy, 82 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:29,439 instead using it to generate energy, 83 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:31,590 instead using it to generate energy, thus reducing the need to harvest energy 84 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:31,600 thus reducing the need to harvest energy 85 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,190 thus reducing the need to harvest energy through methods that are environmentally 86 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:33,200 through methods that are environmentally 87 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,670 through methods that are environmentally harmful. It's the ultimate win-win. 88 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:35,680 harmful. It's the ultimate win-win. 89 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,830 harmful. It's the ultimate win-win. While it may sound like magic, a company 90 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:37,840 While it may sound like magic, a company 91 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,149 While it may sound like magic, a company called Aneria happens to be doing 92 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:40,159 called Aneria happens to be doing 93 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:43,030 called Aneria happens to be doing precisely this. Eneria was founded in 94 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:43,040 precisely this. Eneria was founded in 95 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,429 precisely this. Eneria was founded in 2007 to develop and implement 96 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:45,439 2007 to develop and implement 97 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:47,749 2007 to develop and implement industry-leading anorobic digesting and 98 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:47,759 industry-leading anorobic digesting and 99 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:49,990 industry-leading anorobic digesting and resource recovery solutions towards 100 00:01:49,990 --> 00:01:50,000 resource recovery solutions towards 101 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,990 resource recovery solutions towards turning organic waste into renewable 102 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:52,000 turning organic waste into renewable 103 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,950 turning organic waste into renewable energy. They went public in 2021 and now 104 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:54,960 energy. They went public in 2021 and now 105 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,429 energy. They went public in 2021 and now have project sites in over 18 countries 106 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:57,439 have project sites in over 18 countries 107 00:01:57,439 --> 00:01:59,429 have project sites in over 18 countries along with around 300 patents and 108 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:59,439 along with around 300 patents and 109 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:02,069 along with around 300 patents and technologies. This is huge progress in 110 00:02:02,069 --> 00:02:02,079 technologies. This is huge progress in 111 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:03,830 technologies. This is huge progress in the endeavor to make our civilization 112 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:03,840 the endeavor to make our civilization 113 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,389 the endeavor to make our civilization more eco-friendly. Since diverting waste 114 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:06,399 more eco-friendly. Since diverting waste 115 00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:08,710 more eco-friendly. Since diverting waste from landfills is already great, but by 116 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:08,720 from landfills is already great, but by 117 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,029 from landfills is already great, but by using that waste to make bio gas and 118 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:11,039 using that waste to make bio gas and 119 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:13,589 using that waste to make bio gas and renewable natural gas, Eneria is 120 00:02:13,589 --> 00:02:13,599 renewable natural gas, Eneria is 121 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:15,510 renewable natural gas, Eneria is reducing methane and other greenhouse 122 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:15,520 reducing methane and other greenhouse 123 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,830 reducing methane and other greenhouse gas emissions. So this could be one very 124 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:17,840 gas emissions. So this could be one very 125 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,510 gas emissions. So this could be one very important puzzle piece towards solving 126 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:19,520 important puzzle piece towards solving 127 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,990 important puzzle piece towards solving the climate crisis. So how does it all 128 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:22,000 the climate crisis. So how does it all 129 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,390 the climate crisis. So how does it all work? First, let's talk about anorobic 130 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:24,400 work? First, let's talk about anorobic 131 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,350 work? First, let's talk about anorobic digestion or AD. Anorobic means in the 132 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:27,360 digestion or AD. Anorobic means in the 133 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,430 digestion or AD. Anorobic means in the absence of oxygen. So we are talking 134 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:29,440 absence of oxygen. So we are talking 135 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,750 absence of oxygen. So we are talking about microorganisms that metabolize 136 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:31,760 about microorganisms that metabolize 137 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,710 about microorganisms that metabolize organic waste in oxygen-free tanks. The 138 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:34,720 organic waste in oxygen-free tanks. The 139 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,470 organic waste in oxygen-free tanks. The outputs of this process are something 140 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:36,480 outputs of this process are something 141 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,030 outputs of this process are something called bio gas, which is mainly methane 142 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:39,040 called bio gas, which is mainly methane 143 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,070 called bio gas, which is mainly methane and carbon dioxide, and digestate, a 144 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:42,080 and carbon dioxide, and digestate, a 145 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,910 and carbon dioxide, and digestate, a mixture of nutrient-rich solids and 146 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:43,920 mixture of nutrient-rich solids and 147 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,390 mixture of nutrient-rich solids and liquids that can be used as fertilizer. 148 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:46,400 liquids that can be used as fertilizer. 149 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,110 liquids that can be used as fertilizer. When purified, bio gas becomes renewable 150 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:49,120 When purified, bio gas becomes renewable 151 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,750 When purified, bio gas becomes renewable natural gas or RNG, which is the same as 152 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:51,760 natural gas or RNG, which is the same as 153 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,509 natural gas or RNG, which is the same as the stuff we get from the ground since 154 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:53,519 the stuff we get from the ground since 155 00:02:53,519 --> 00:02:55,350 the stuff we get from the ground since both are mainly methane. The difference 156 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:55,360 both are mainly methane. The difference 157 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,750 both are mainly methane. The difference is that RNG recycles carbon that's 158 00:02:57,750 --> 00:02:57,760 is that RNG recycles carbon that's 159 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,750 is that RNG recycles carbon that's already in the biosphere and prevents 160 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:59,760 already in the biosphere and prevents 161 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,670 already in the biosphere and prevents methane emissions from landfills and 162 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:01,680 methane emissions from landfills and 163 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,670 methane emissions from landfills and agriculture. So there's a reduction in 164 00:03:03,670 --> 00:03:03,680 agriculture. So there's a reduction in 165 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,070 agriculture. So there's a reduction in overall greenhouse gas impact. We don't 166 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:06,080 overall greenhouse gas impact. We don't 167 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,070 overall greenhouse gas impact. We don't need to get too crazy with the details, 168 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:08,080 need to get too crazy with the details, 169 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,110 need to get too crazy with the details, but briefly AD has four steps. First, in 170 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:11,120 but briefly AD has four steps. First, in 171 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,670 but briefly AD has four steps. First, in hydrarolysis, enzymes break organic 172 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:13,680 hydrarolysis, enzymes break organic 173 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,670 hydrarolysis, enzymes break organic polymers into monomers. So from 174 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:15,680 polymers into monomers. So from 175 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,830 polymers into monomers. So from polysaccharides to simple sugars, 176 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:17,840 polysaccharides to simple sugars, 177 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,309 polysaccharides to simple sugars, proteins to amino acids, and lipids to 178 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:20,319 proteins to amino acids, and lipids to 179 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,430 proteins to amino acids, and lipids to longchain fatty acids and glycerol. 180 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:23,440 longchain fatty acids and glycerol. 181 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,229 longchain fatty acids and glycerol. Then in acidogenesis, acidogenic 182 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:26,239 Then in acidogenesis, acidogenic 183 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:28,470 Then in acidogenesis, acidogenic bacteria ferment those monomers into 184 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:28,480 bacteria ferment those monomers into 185 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,110 bacteria ferment those monomers into volatile fatty acids like propionic, 186 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:31,120 volatile fatty acids like propionic, 187 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,390 volatile fatty acids like propionic, butyric and lactic acids as well as CO2, 188 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:34,400 butyric and lactic acids as well as CO2, 189 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,710 butyric and lactic acids as well as CO2, H2 and ammonia. 190 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:36,720 H2 and ammonia. 191 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,670 H2 and ammonia. Next, in acidtogenesis, acettogenic 192 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:39,680 Next, in acidtogenesis, acettogenic 193 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,149 Next, in acidtogenesis, acettogenic bacteria convert higher volatile fatty 194 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:42,159 bacteria convert higher volatile fatty 195 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:44,869 bacteria convert higher volatile fatty acids and alcohols into acetic acid, 196 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:44,879 acids and alcohols into acetic acid, 197 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:48,630 acids and alcohols into acetic acid, CO2, and H2. About 70% of the methane 198 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:48,640 CO2, and H2. About 70% of the methane 199 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,630 CO2, and H2. About 70% of the methane produced is derived from acetate 200 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:50,640 produced is derived from acetate 201 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,430 produced is derived from acetate reduction which describes our final step 202 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:53,440 reduction which describes our final step 203 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,550 reduction which describes our final step in methanogenesis. Methanogenic archa 204 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:56,560 in methanogenesis. Methanogenic archa 205 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,350 in methanogenesis. Methanogenic archa rather than bacteria convert acetate and 206 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:59,360 rather than bacteria convert acetate and 207 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,670 rather than bacteria convert acetate and H2 plus CO2 to methane via two pathways. 208 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:03,680 H2 plus CO2 to methane via two pathways. 209 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,309 H2 plus CO2 to methane via two pathways. The first is called acidtoclastic where 210 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:06,319 The first is called acidtoclastic where 211 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,270 The first is called acidtoclastic where acetic acid yields methane and CO2 and 212 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:09,280 acetic acid yields methane and CO2 and 213 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,830 acetic acid yields methane and CO2 and the second is called hydrogenotrophic 214 00:04:11,830 --> 00:04:11,840 the second is called hydrogenotrophic 215 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,710 the second is called hydrogenotrophic where CO2 and H2 yield methane and 216 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:14,720 where CO2 and H2 yield methane and 217 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,349 where CO2 and H2 yield methane and water. The optimal pH for this process 218 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:17,359 water. The optimal pH for this process 219 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:19,670 water. The optimal pH for this process is near 7 with an acceptable range of 220 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:19,680 is near 7 with an acceptable range of 221 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,390 is near 7 with an acceptable range of 6.5 to 8. There are some subtle 222 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:22,400 6.5 to 8. There are some subtle 223 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,070 6.5 to 8. There are some subtle differences depending on which type of 224 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:24,080 differences depending on which type of 225 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,749 differences depending on which type of fats are being broken down, but that's 226 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:25,759 fats are being broken down, but that's 227 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:28,790 fats are being broken down, but that's the gist of it. So, as you can see, bio 228 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:28,800 the gist of it. So, as you can see, bio 229 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,430 the gist of it. So, as you can see, bio gas production via this process is just 230 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:31,440 gas production via this process is just 231 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,590 gas production via this process is just a controlled version of what nature has 232 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:33,600 a controlled version of what nature has 233 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,670 a controlled version of what nature has done for millions of years. For those 234 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:35,680 done for millions of years. For those 235 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,909 done for millions of years. For those who are unaware, fossil hydrocarbons 236 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:37,919 who are unaware, fossil hydrocarbons 237 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:40,230 who are unaware, fossil hydrocarbons originated from organic matter like dead 238 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:40,240 originated from organic matter like dead 239 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,790 originated from organic matter like dead plankton, algae, and plants, which were 240 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:42,800 plankton, algae, and plants, which were 241 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,030 plankton, algae, and plants, which were buried in oxygen poor conditions and 242 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:45,040 buried in oxygen poor conditions and 243 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,950 buried in oxygen poor conditions and converted over tens to hundreds of 244 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:46,960 converted over tens to hundreds of 245 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,790 converted over tens to hundreds of millions of years through heat, 246 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:48,800 millions of years through heat, 247 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,510 millions of years through heat, pressure, and microbial processes. The 248 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:51,520 pressure, and microbial processes. The 249 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,510 pressure, and microbial processes. The initial stage of fossil fuel formation 250 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:53,520 initial stage of fossil fuel formation 251 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,550 initial stage of fossil fuel formation is anorobic decomposition. What Energia 252 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:56,560 is anorobic decomposition. What Energia 253 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,110 is anorobic decomposition. What Energia does is systematize and fasttrack that 254 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:59,120 does is systematize and fasttrack that 255 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,590 does is systematize and fasttrack that same natural process in engineered 256 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:01,600 same natural process in engineered 257 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,150 same natural process in engineered reactors, converting organic waste to 258 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:04,160 reactors, converting organic waste to 259 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,469 reactors, converting organic waste to methane in weeks instead of huge spans 260 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:06,479 methane in weeks instead of huge spans 261 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:09,749 methane in weeks instead of huge spans of geological time. Eneria utilizes a 262 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:09,759 of geological time. Eneria utilizes a 263 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:11,590 of geological time. Eneria utilizes a lot of interesting tech to pull this off 264 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:11,600 lot of interesting tech to pull this off 265 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,029 lot of interesting tech to pull this off on industrial scales. OREX and Clean Rex 266 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:15,039 on industrial scales. OREX and Clean Rex 267 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:17,189 on industrial scales. OREX and Clean Rex are pre-treatment systems that remove 268 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:17,199 are pre-treatment systems that remove 269 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,350 are pre-treatment systems that remove contaminants like plastics before the 270 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:19,360 contaminants like plastics before the 271 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,510 contaminants like plastics before the waste enters the digtor. And this is 272 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:21,520 waste enters the digtor. And this is 273 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,350 waste enters the digtor. And this is crucial because it is nearly impossible 274 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:23,360 crucial because it is nearly impossible 275 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,189 crucial because it is nearly impossible to get the public to isolate their own 276 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:25,199 to get the public to isolate their own 277 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:27,110 to get the public to isolate their own food waste for collection. A better 278 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:27,120 food waste for collection. A better 279 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,189 food waste for collection. A better strategy is to come up with solutions 280 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:29,199 strategy is to come up with solutions 281 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,510 strategy is to come up with solutions whereby the waste gets sorted precisely 282 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:31,520 whereby the waste gets sorted precisely 283 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,150 whereby the waste gets sorted precisely as is. What's most fascinating about 284 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:34,160 as is. What's most fascinating about 285 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,469 as is. What's most fascinating about this large-scale technology is how much 286 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:36,479 this large-scale technology is how much 287 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:38,710 this large-scale technology is how much it hinges on our understanding of things 288 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:38,720 it hinges on our understanding of things 289 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,189 it hinges on our understanding of things that are so small, namely microbial 290 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:41,199 that are so small, namely microbial 291 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:44,150 that are so small, namely microbial ecology. Bacteria and archa are enacting 292 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:44,160 ecology. Bacteria and archa are enacting 293 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,150 ecology. Bacteria and archa are enacting these metabolic pathways. And it's 294 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:46,160 these metabolic pathways. And it's 295 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,909 these metabolic pathways. And it's already astounding that we have such a 296 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:47,919 already astounding that we have such a 297 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:49,990 already astounding that we have such a sophisticated understanding of every 298 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:50,000 sophisticated understanding of every 299 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,990 sophisticated understanding of every step in each of these pathways on the 300 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:52,000 step in each of these pathways on the 301 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,830 step in each of these pathways on the molecular level. But that we can 302 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:53,840 molecular level. But that we can 303 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:55,590 molecular level. But that we can actually harness these pathways to 304 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:55,600 actually harness these pathways to 305 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,590 actually harness these pathways to achieve something useful in contrast 306 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:57,600 achieve something useful in contrast 307 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,590 achieve something useful in contrast with other industrial processes that do 308 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:59,600 with other industrial processes that do 309 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,670 with other industrial processes that do so much harm to the environment is even 310 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:01,680 so much harm to the environment is even 311 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,990 so much harm to the environment is even more remarkable. Instead of increased 312 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:04,000 more remarkable. Instead of increased 313 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,070 more remarkable. Instead of increased emissions, we are witnessing carbon 314 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:06,080 emissions, we are witnessing carbon 315 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,790 emissions, we are witnessing carbon cycle closure since AD closes the 316 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:08,800 cycle closure since AD closes the 317 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,590 cycle closure since AD closes the biogenic carbon loop unlike fossil fuels 318 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:11,600 biogenic carbon loop unlike fossil fuels 319 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,189 biogenic carbon loop unlike fossil fuels which break the loop by pulling 320 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:13,199 which break the loop by pulling 321 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:15,350 which break the loop by pulling sequestered geological carbon into the 322 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:15,360 sequestered geological carbon into the 323 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,510 sequestered geological carbon into the atmosphere. Additionally, we must be 324 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:17,520 atmosphere. Additionally, we must be 325 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,070 atmosphere. Additionally, we must be aware that landfill methane is roughly 326 00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:20,080 aware that landfill methane is roughly 327 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,870 aware that landfill methane is roughly 84 times more potent than CO2 as a 328 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:22,880 84 times more potent than CO2 as a 329 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,830 84 times more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas over a 20-year horizon. 330 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:25,840 greenhouse gas over a 20-year horizon. 331 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,230 greenhouse gas over a 20-year horizon. This makes landfills the third largest 332 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:28,240 This makes landfills the third largest 333 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,230 This makes landfills the third largest source of human-caused methane emissions 334 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:30,240 source of human-caused methane emissions 335 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,749 source of human-caused methane emissions in the US, diverting food waste to AD, 336 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:33,759 in the US, diverting food waste to AD, 337 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:35,990 in the US, diverting food waste to AD, actually captures that methane as usable 338 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:36,000 actually captures that methane as usable 339 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,150 actually captures that methane as usable energy instead of letting it escape into 340 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:38,160 energy instead of letting it escape into 341 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,230 energy instead of letting it escape into the atmosphere. Despite these early 342 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:40,240 the atmosphere. Despite these early 343 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,990 the atmosphere. Despite these early successes, there is still room for 344 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:42,000 successes, there is still room for 345 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,710 successes, there is still room for expansion. Bio gas and biomethane 346 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:44,720 expansion. Bio gas and biomethane 347 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,430 expansion. Bio gas and biomethane currently represent about 6% of the EU's 348 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:47,440 currently represent about 6% of the EU's 349 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,830 currently represent about 6% of the EU's total natural gas consumption. Denmark 350 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:49,840 total natural gas consumption. Denmark 351 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,150 total natural gas consumption. Denmark is the global leader with biomemethane 352 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:52,160 is the global leader with biomemethane 353 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,550 is the global leader with biomemethane already approaching 40% of national gas 354 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:54,560 already approaching 40% of national gas 355 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,670 already approaching 40% of national gas consumption with a target of 70% by 2030 356 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:57,680 consumption with a target of 70% by 2030 357 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,790 consumption with a target of 70% by 2030 and 100% by 2035. There have already 358 00:07:00,790 --> 00:07:00,800 and 100% by 2035. There have already 359 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,029 and 100% by 2035. There have already been summer days where Danish biomethane 360 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:03,039 been summer days where Danish biomethane 361 00:07:03,039 --> 00:07:05,270 been summer days where Danish biomethane production exceeded total national gas 362 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:05,280 production exceeded total national gas 363 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,589 production exceeded total national gas demand. So as you can see we are far 364 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:07,599 demand. So as you can see we are far 365 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:09,749 demand. So as you can see we are far past the theoretical stage. This is 366 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:09,759 past the theoretical stage. This is 367 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:12,390 past the theoretical stage. This is proven technology operating at scale and 368 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:12,400 proven technology operating at scale and 369 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,950 proven technology operating at scale and growing. France, Italy, and Spain are 370 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:14,960 growing. France, Italy, and Spain are 371 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,710 growing. France, Italy, and Spain are the fastest growing markets behind 372 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:16,720 the fastest growing markets behind 373 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,629 the fastest growing markets behind Denmark, while Germany remains the 374 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:18,639 Denmark, while Germany remains the 375 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,110 Denmark, while Germany remains the largest single producer. North America 376 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:21,120 largest single producer. North America 377 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,790 largest single producer. North America is a little behind the curve, which 378 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:22,800 is a little behind the curve, which 379 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,110 is a little behind the curve, which means the opportunity is enormous. The 380 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:25,120 means the opportunity is enormous. The 381 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,350 means the opportunity is enormous. The science is the same, the feed stocks are 382 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:27,360 science is the same, the feed stocks are 383 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,270 science is the same, the feed stocks are abundant, and the infrastructure to 384 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:29,280 abundant, and the infrastructure to 385 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,589 abundant, and the infrastructure to receive pipeline quality RNG already 386 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:31,599 receive pipeline quality RNG already 387 00:07:31,599 --> 00:07:34,070 receive pipeline quality RNG already exists. Just for fun, let's get a quick 388 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:34,080 exists. Just for fun, let's get a quick 389 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,670 exists. Just for fun, let's get a quick look at some of the sites so that you 390 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:35,680 look at some of the sites so that you 391 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,270 look at some of the sites so that you can get an even better sense of how this 392 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:37,280 can get an even better sense of how this 393 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,230 can get an even better sense of how this stuff works. Food waste in, natural gas 394 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:40,240 stuff works. Food waste in, natural gas 395 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,629 stuff works. Food waste in, natural gas out may sound simple enough, but nothing 396 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:42,639 out may sound simple enough, but nothing 397 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,469 out may sound simple enough, but nothing is ever that simple when working on an 398 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:44,479 is ever that simple when working on an 399 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:46,950 is ever that simple when working on an industrial scale. The first huge 400 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:46,960 industrial scale. The first huge 401 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,870 industrial scale. The first huge challenge is sorting through the trash, 402 00:07:48,870 --> 00:07:48,880 challenge is sorting through the trash, 403 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,029 challenge is sorting through the trash, which is usually just dumped into a huge 404 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:51,039 which is usually just dumped into a huge 405 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:53,350 which is usually just dumped into a huge pit like this. This requires 406 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:53,360 pit like this. This requires 407 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,430 pit like this. This requires state-of-the-art technology as it all 408 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:55,440 state-of-the-art technology as it all 409 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,430 state-of-the-art technology as it all has to be broken down into fundamental 410 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:57,440 has to be broken down into fundamental 411 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,510 has to be broken down into fundamental components. So, you'll see a lot of 412 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:59,520 components. So, you'll see a lot of 413 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,070 components. So, you'll see a lot of conveyor belts, lots and lots of 414 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:02,080 conveyor belts, lots and lots of 415 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,629 conveyor belts, lots and lots of conveyor belts. There are automatic bag 416 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:04,639 conveyor belts. There are automatic bag 417 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,550 conveyor belts. There are automatic bag openers to open up all the bags for 418 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:06,560 openers to open up all the bags for 419 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,550 openers to open up all the bags for sorting before leading to a coarse 420 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:08,560 sorting before leading to a coarse 421 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,029 sorting before leading to a coarse separation unit. Additionally, there are 422 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:11,039 separation unit. Additionally, there are 423 00:08:11,039 --> 00:08:13,270 separation unit. Additionally, there are pickers that remove specific items by 424 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:13,280 pickers that remove specific items by 425 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,909 pickers that remove specific items by hand. Disc screens separate out the 426 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:15,919 hand. Disc screens separate out the 427 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:18,390 hand. Disc screens separate out the smaller organic material by size. All 428 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:18,400 smaller organic material by size. All 429 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,309 smaller organic material by size. All manner of machinery is involved in this 430 00:08:20,309 --> 00:08:20,319 manner of machinery is involved in this 431 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,309 manner of machinery is involved in this task of separating everything into 432 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:22,319 task of separating everything into 433 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,629 task of separating everything into specific components. Once this is 434 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:24,639 specific components. Once this is 435 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:26,469 specific components. Once this is complete, recycled materials can be 436 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:26,479 complete, recycled materials can be 437 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:28,469 complete, recycled materials can be sold, which offsets the cost of 438 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:28,479 sold, which offsets the cost of 439 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:30,790 sold, which offsets the cost of operating the plant. Waste water is 440 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:30,800 operating the plant. Waste water is 441 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,190 operating the plant. Waste water is collected and treated for reuse. The 442 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:33,200 collected and treated for reuse. The 443 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,029 collected and treated for reuse. The organic portion on the other hand is 444 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:35,039 organic portion on the other hand is 445 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:37,589 organic portion on the other hand is collected by intense pressurization and 446 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:37,599 collected by intense pressurization and 447 00:08:37,599 --> 00:08:39,909 collected by intense pressurization and the whole process is designed to yield 448 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:39,919 the whole process is designed to yield 449 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,070 the whole process is designed to yield high organic recovery. Meaning they 450 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:42,080 high organic recovery. Meaning they 451 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,230 high organic recovery. Meaning they squeeze as much organic juice as they 452 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:44,240 squeeze as much organic juice as they 453 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,550 squeeze as much organic juice as they possibly can out of this trash. The 454 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:46,560 possibly can out of this trash. The 455 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,389 possibly can out of this trash. The resulting material after additional 456 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:48,399 resulting material after additional 457 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,790 resulting material after additional separation and polishing steps can then 458 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:50,800 separation and polishing steps can then 459 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,430 separation and polishing steps can then be used for AD. This is done in 460 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:53,440 be used for AD. This is done in 461 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,910 be used for AD. This is done in incredibly large digesttors that can 462 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:55,920 incredibly large digesttors that can 463 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,389 incredibly large digesttors that can process a thousand tons of organics per 464 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:58,399 process a thousand tons of organics per 465 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:00,150 process a thousand tons of organics per day. working in conjunction with 466 00:09:00,150 --> 00:09:00,160 day. working in conjunction with 467 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,350 day. working in conjunction with bioreactor tanks and equalization tanks. 468 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:03,360 bioreactor tanks and equalization tanks. 469 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,389 bioreactor tanks and equalization tanks. In short, it's garbage in, green energy, 470 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:06,399 In short, it's garbage in, green energy, 471 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,630 In short, it's garbage in, green energy, clean water, and fertilizer out with 472 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:08,640 clean water, and fertilizer out with 473 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,710 clean water, and fertilizer out with only a very small portion of the input 474 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:10,720 only a very small portion of the input 475 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,190 only a very small portion of the input then going to a landfill. To achieve all 476 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:13,200 then going to a landfill. To achieve all 477 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,949 then going to a landfill. To achieve all of this, there are sites dedicated 478 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:14,959 of this, there are sites dedicated 479 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:17,190 of this, there are sites dedicated specifically to waste reception, the 480 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:17,200 specifically to waste reception, the 481 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,949 specifically to waste reception, the products of which go elsewhere to 482 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:18,959 products of which go elsewhere to 483 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:21,670 products of which go elsewhere to undergo anorobic digestion as well as 484 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:21,680 undergo anorobic digestion as well as 485 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:24,870 undergo anorobic digestion as well as bio gas upgrading, a complex multi-step 486 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:24,880 bio gas upgrading, a complex multi-step 487 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,790 bio gas upgrading, a complex multi-step process which has been refined and 488 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:26,800 process which has been refined and 489 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,310 process which has been refined and perfected over the past several decades. 490 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:30,320 perfected over the past several decades. 491 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,070 perfected over the past several decades. So that's a brief introduction to how 492 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:32,080 So that's a brief introduction to how 493 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,070 So that's a brief introduction to how this whole process works. But to get 494 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:34,080 this whole process works. But to get 495 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,310 this whole process works. But to get more information, let's talk to engineer 496 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:36,320 more information, let's talk to engineer 497 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,710 more information, let's talk to engineer Sasha Rowings Scattergood, the chief 498 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:38,720 Sasha Rowings Scattergood, the chief 499 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,150 Sasha Rowings Scattergood, the chief technology officer of Eneria. As CTO, he 500 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:42,160 technology officer of Eneria. As CTO, he 501 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,070 technology officer of Eneria. As CTO, he leads the company's global technology 502 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:44,080 leads the company's global technology 503 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,550 leads the company's global technology platform across research and development 504 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:46,560 platform across research and development 505 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,710 platform across research and development and the commercialization of Eneria's 506 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:48,720 and the commercialization of Eneria's 507 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,870 and the commercialization of Eneria's proprietary systems worldwide. Here's 508 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:50,880 proprietary systems worldwide. Here's 509 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,190 proprietary systems worldwide. Here's that discussion now. Sasha, thanks so 510 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:53,200 that discussion now. Sasha, thanks so 511 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,190 that discussion now. Sasha, thanks so much for joining me. Uh, so I just kind 512 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:55,200 much for joining me. Uh, so I just kind 513 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,190 much for joining me. Uh, so I just kind of took my viewers through the process 514 00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:57,200 of took my viewers through the process 515 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,110 of took my viewers through the process briefly. Uh, but now we can definitely 516 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:59,120 briefly. Uh, but now we can definitely 517 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,030 briefly. Uh, but now we can definitely get into more detail. So talking about 518 00:10:01,030 --> 00:10:01,040 get into more detail. So talking about 519 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,630 get into more detail. So talking about waste, we're we're the whole process is 520 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:02,640 waste, we're we're the whole process is 521 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,030 waste, we're we're the whole process is starting with waste. So um let's get a 522 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:05,040 starting with waste. So um let's get a 523 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,470 starting with waste. So um let's get a little more specific. What kind of waste 524 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:06,480 little more specific. What kind of waste 525 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,829 little more specific. What kind of waste are we talking about? What what are the 526 00:10:07,829 --> 00:10:07,839 are we talking about? What what are the 527 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:09,269 are we talking about? What what are the different feed stock sources you guys 528 00:10:09,269 --> 00:10:09,279 different feed stock sources you guys 529 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,509 different feed stock sources you guys use? That sort of thing. 530 00:10:11,509 --> 00:10:11,519 use? That sort of thing. 531 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:14,389 use? That sort of thing. >> Yeah, great. So we can pretty much 532 00:10:14,389 --> 00:10:14,399 >> Yeah, great. So we can pretty much 533 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:15,910 >> Yeah, great. So we can pretty much digest 534 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:15,920 digest 535 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,790 digest uh a multitude of organic waste that's 536 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:18,800 uh a multitude of organic waste that's 537 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,190 uh a multitude of organic waste that's produced in our society. Uh we break it 538 00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:21,200 produced in our society. Uh we break it 539 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,509 produced in our society. Uh we break it down into three main chunks. Uh the 540 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:23,519 down into three main chunks. Uh the 541 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,670 down into three main chunks. Uh the first one being sewage sludge. So that's 542 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:25,680 first one being sewage sludge. So that's 543 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,269 first one being sewage sludge. So that's like the waste water that you flush down 544 00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:27,279 like the waste water that you flush down 545 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,430 like the waste water that you flush down the toilet and once you separate the 546 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:29,440 the toilet and once you separate the 547 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,069 the toilet and once you separate the solids from the liquids, it's um that's 548 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:32,079 solids from the liquids, it's um that's 549 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:34,069 solids from the liquids, it's um that's the one big chunk waste water. The 550 00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:34,079 the one big chunk waste water. The 551 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:36,550 the one big chunk waste water. The second one is a lot of the organics that 552 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:36,560 second one is a lot of the organics that 553 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,310 second one is a lot of the organics that coming from solid waste. So these are 554 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:38,320 coming from solid waste. So these are 555 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,310 coming from solid waste. So these are what you you know drag out to your curb 556 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:40,320 what you you know drag out to your curb 557 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,670 what you you know drag out to your curb at the uh end of the week. Um this could 558 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:43,680 at the uh end of the week. Um this could 559 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:46,069 at the uh end of the week. Um this could include green bin organics like food 560 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:46,079 include green bin organics like food 561 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:47,990 include green bin organics like food waste, but it could also be things that 562 00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:48,000 waste, but it could also be things that 563 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,509 waste, but it could also be things that you've tossed out in your black bag 564 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:49,519 you've tossed out in your black bag 565 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:52,949 you've tossed out in your black bag trash. And then uh the third one is on 566 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:52,959 trash. And then uh the third one is on 567 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:54,630 trash. And then uh the third one is on the agricultural side. There's a lot of 568 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:54,640 the agricultural side. There's a lot of 569 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,030 the agricultural side. There's a lot of organic residue that is left behind by 570 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:57,040 organic residue that is left behind by 571 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,030 organic residue that is left behind by the farmers. So, think when you've 572 00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:59,040 the farmers. So, think when you've 573 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,949 the farmers. So, think when you've harvested the corn, you still have all 574 00:11:00,949 --> 00:11:00,959 harvested the corn, you still have all 575 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:02,630 harvested the corn, you still have all that corn stock left over. Or when 576 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:02,640 that corn stock left over. Or when 577 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,310 that corn stock left over. Or when you've harvested the wheat, there's all 578 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:04,320 you've harvested the wheat, there's all 579 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,790 you've harvested the wheat, there's all the straw left over. And these products 580 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:06,800 the straw left over. And these products 581 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,790 the straw left over. And these products have in the past just been left in the 582 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:08,800 have in the past just been left in the 583 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,190 have in the past just been left in the field to decompose and act as a small 584 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:11,200 field to decompose and act as a small 585 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,269 field to decompose and act as a small amount as a fertilizer. But if you 586 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:13,279 amount as a fertilizer. But if you 587 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:14,790 amount as a fertilizer. But if you harvest those crops, bring them to a 588 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:14,800 harvest those crops, bring them to a 589 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,710 harvest those crops, bring them to a biodigestertor, you can actually extract 590 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:16,720 biodigestertor, you can actually extract 591 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,350 biodigestertor, you can actually extract the organics into bio gas and then still 592 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:19,360 the organics into bio gas and then still 593 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,190 the organics into bio gas and then still return the fertilizer value out to the 594 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:21,200 return the fertilizer value out to the 595 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,389 return the fertilizer value out to the field 596 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:22,399 field 597 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:25,110 field >> and and and maybe one small additional 598 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:25,120 >> and and and maybe one small additional 599 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,430 >> and and and maybe one small additional one is on the agri food side. So we 600 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:27,440 one is on the agri food side. So we 601 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,430 one is on the agri food side. So we process a lot of you know agricultural 602 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:29,440 process a lot of you know agricultural 603 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,389 process a lot of you know agricultural inputs into into food. So think potato 604 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:32,399 inputs into into food. So think potato 605 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:35,430 inputs into into food. So think potato chips. Uh those you know potatoes that 606 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:35,440 chips. Uh those you know potatoes that 607 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,269 chips. Uh those you know potatoes that don't quite meet the spec or the maybe 608 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:37,279 don't quite meet the spec or the maybe 609 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,509 don't quite meet the spec or the maybe the off offsp spec potato chips 610 00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:39,519 the off offsp spec potato chips 611 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:41,269 the off offsp spec potato chips themselves can be brought out and 612 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:41,279 themselves can be brought out and 613 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:43,190 themselves can be brought out and digested as well. 614 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:43,200 digested as well. 615 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,630 digested as well. >> Cool. Yeah, that sounds very versatile. 616 00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:44,640 >> Cool. Yeah, that sounds very versatile. 617 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,389 >> Cool. Yeah, that sounds very versatile. I mean uh so it's a lot of literally 618 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:46,399 I mean uh so it's a lot of literally 619 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:47,590 I mean uh so it's a lot of literally just the trash we're putting in the 620 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:47,600 just the trash we're putting in the 621 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,910 just the trash we're putting in the black bins and then plus uh you know uh 622 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:49,920 black bins and then plus uh you know uh 623 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,470 black bins and then plus uh you know uh resources from agricultural industry. 624 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:52,480 resources from agricultural industry. 625 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,949 resources from agricultural industry. That sounds great. I mean in terms of 626 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:54,959 That sounds great. I mean in terms of 627 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:56,949 That sounds great. I mean in terms of like so I saw you know a lot of footage 628 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:56,959 like so I saw you know a lot of footage 629 00:11:56,959 --> 00:11:58,949 like so I saw you know a lot of footage obviously there tre tremendous amounts 630 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:58,959 obviously there tre tremendous amounts 631 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:01,110 obviously there tre tremendous amounts of trash that are being delivered. um 632 00:12:01,110 --> 00:12:01,120 of trash that are being delivered. um 633 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,110 of trash that are being delivered. um and then being sorted in different ways. 634 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:03,120 and then being sorted in different ways. 635 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,870 and then being sorted in different ways. I mean I I can't even begin to imagine 636 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:04,880 I mean I I can't even begin to imagine 637 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,710 I mean I I can't even begin to imagine the challenges that are associated with 638 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:06,720 the challenges that are associated with 639 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,550 the challenges that are associated with that process of of of sorting and 640 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:08,560 that process of of of sorting and 641 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:11,110 that process of of of sorting and everything. So um what are like can you 642 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:11,120 everything. So um what are like can you 643 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,550 everything. So um what are like can you tell us about some of the barriers 644 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:12,560 tell us about some of the barriers 645 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:14,310 tell us about some of the barriers associated with that with that uh 646 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:14,320 associated with that with that uh 647 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,670 associated with that with that uh process? Are there like big 648 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:15,680 process? Are there like big 649 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,990 process? Are there like big inefficiencies that were difficult to 650 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:18,000 inefficiencies that were difficult to 651 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,829 inefficiencies that were difficult to solve initially or or or even remain 652 00:12:19,829 --> 00:12:19,839 solve initially or or or even remain 653 00:12:19,839 --> 00:12:23,110 solve initially or or or even remain unsolved or how does all that work? 654 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:23,120 unsolved or how does all that work? 655 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,509 unsolved or how does all that work? >> Yeah. So, anytime you're separating 656 00:12:25,509 --> 00:12:25,519 >> Yeah. So, anytime you're separating 657 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:27,670 >> Yeah. So, anytime you're separating waste, it's all just about finding out 658 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:27,680 waste, it's all just about finding out 659 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,750 waste, it's all just about finding out what is the, you know, the specific 660 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:29,760 what is the, you know, the specific 661 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,670 what is the, you know, the specific difference between the the the pile of 662 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:31,680 difference between the the the pile of 663 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,829 difference between the the the pile of trash. Um, metal is a very easy one to 664 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:33,839 trash. Um, metal is a very easy one to 665 00:12:33,839 --> 00:12:36,069 trash. Um, metal is a very easy one to separate because we have magnets. Uh, 666 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:36,079 separate because we have magnets. Uh, 667 00:12:36,079 --> 00:12:38,389 separate because we have magnets. Uh, likewise, size separation is very 668 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:38,399 likewise, size separation is very 669 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:40,629 likewise, size separation is very typical. However, before you size 670 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:40,639 typical. However, before you size 671 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:42,230 typical. However, before you size separate, you usually have to tear open 672 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:42,240 separate, you usually have to tear open 673 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,750 separate, you usually have to tear open the bags. So, that that's where we 674 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:43,760 the bags. So, that that's where we 675 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,750 the bags. So, that that's where we usually start in a waste separation 676 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:45,760 usually start in a waste separation 677 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,910 usually start in a waste separation plant. It's we'll tear open the bags. 678 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:47,920 plant. It's we'll tear open the bags. 679 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,030 plant. It's we'll tear open the bags. You know, you throw it out in a big 680 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:49,040 You know, you throw it out in a big 681 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,550 You know, you throw it out in a big black garbage bag. It's very difficult 682 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:50,560 black garbage bag. It's very difficult 683 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:52,870 black garbage bag. It's very difficult to separate what's inside that bag. So 684 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:52,880 to separate what's inside that bag. So 685 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,790 to separate what's inside that bag. So we'll usually tear that open and then do 686 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:54,800 we'll usually tear that open and then do 687 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,949 we'll usually tear that open and then do some level of size separation. Could be 688 00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:56,959 some level of size separation. Could be 689 00:12:56,959 --> 00:12:59,110 some level of size separation. Could be a disc screen, could be a trauml screen. 690 00:12:59,110 --> 00:12:59,120 a disc screen, could be a trauml screen. 691 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,790 a disc screen, could be a trauml screen. These are things that they'll have, you 692 00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:00,800 These are things that they'll have, you 693 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,190 These are things that they'll have, you know, a dinner plate size opening and 694 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:03,200 know, a dinner plate size opening and 695 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,910 know, a dinner plate size opening and you let everything bigger than that pass 696 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:05,920 you let everything bigger than that pass 697 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,910 you let everything bigger than that pass over and everything smaller go through. 698 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:07,920 over and everything smaller go through. 699 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,470 over and everything smaller go through. And then we'll start getting into those 700 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:10,480 And then we'll start getting into those 701 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,509 And then we'll start getting into those extrusion to separate organic flowable 702 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:13,519 extrusion to separate organic flowable 703 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,150 extrusion to separate organic flowable material from more fibrous and solid 704 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:16,160 material from more fibrous and solid 705 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,470 material from more fibrous and solid material. We'll use magnets. we'll use 706 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:18,480 material. We'll use magnets. we'll use 707 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,150 material. We'll use magnets. we'll use something called an eddiurren which 708 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:20,160 something called an eddiurren which 709 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,550 something called an eddiurren which actually separates aluminum through kind 710 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:22,560 actually separates aluminum through kind 711 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,870 actually separates aluminum through kind of an inverse of a magnet. And then 712 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:24,880 of an inverse of a magnet. And then 713 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,310 of an inverse of a magnet. And then lastly with the with optical sorting you 714 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:28,320 lastly with the with optical sorting you 715 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,910 lastly with the with optical sorting you can actually separate even PET HDP and a 716 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:31,920 can actually separate even PET HDP and a 717 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,150 can actually separate even PET HDP and a lot of the other plastics and recyclable 718 00:13:34,150 --> 00:13:34,160 lot of the other plastics and recyclable 719 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,750 lot of the other plastics and recyclable components. 720 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:35,760 components. 721 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,269 components. >> That sounds yeah sounds pretty 722 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:37,279 >> That sounds yeah sounds pretty 723 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:39,509 >> That sounds yeah sounds pretty sophisticated. Are are there any like 724 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:39,519 sophisticated. Are are there any like 725 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,190 sophisticated. Are are there any like are there any specific substances or 726 00:13:41,190 --> 00:13:41,200 are there any specific substances or 727 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,110 are there any specific substances or items that you see cropping up a lot 728 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:43,120 items that you see cropping up a lot 729 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,949 items that you see cropping up a lot that tend to interfere with the process 730 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:44,959 that tend to interfere with the process 731 00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:47,670 that tend to interfere with the process severely or like contaminate anything in 732 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:47,680 severely or like contaminate anything in 733 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,190 severely or like contaminate anything in particular? 734 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:49,200 particular? 735 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,269 particular? >> Yeah, one of the real tricky ones you 736 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:51,279 >> Yeah, one of the real tricky ones you 737 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,110 >> Yeah, one of the real tricky ones you wouldn't think about it obviously 738 00:13:53,110 --> 00:13:53,120 wouldn't think about it obviously 739 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,269 wouldn't think about it obviously there's, you know, big starter motors or 740 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:55,279 there's, you know, big starter motors or 741 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:57,829 there's, you know, big starter motors or an engine block. Those are difficult for 742 00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:57,839 an engine block. Those are difficult for 743 00:13:57,839 --> 00:13:59,910 an engine block. Those are difficult for every waste plant. So, they tend to get 744 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:59,920 every waste plant. So, they tend to get 745 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,230 every waste plant. So, they tend to get sorted out early in the process 746 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:02,240 sorted out early in the process 747 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,710 sorted out early in the process >> uh by either the visual separation or or 748 00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:04,720 >> uh by either the visual separation or or 749 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,470 >> uh by either the visual separation or or a a shredder. But um the ones that are 750 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:08,480 a a shredder. But um the ones that are 751 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,389 a a shredder. But um the ones that are actually really tricky are ropes. Ropes 752 00:14:10,389 --> 00:14:10,399 actually really tricky are ropes. Ropes 753 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:13,269 actually really tricky are ropes. Ropes and anything long and stringy because we 754 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:13,279 and anything long and stringy because we 755 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,590 and anything long and stringy because we have a lot of rotating components. And 756 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:15,600 have a lot of rotating components. And 757 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,350 have a lot of rotating components. And those rotating components tend to just 758 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:17,360 those rotating components tend to just 759 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,590 those rotating components tend to just you know wrap those up. So a lot of the 760 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:19,600 you know wrap those up. So a lot of the 761 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,829 you know wrap those up. So a lot of the design is as simple as it sounds. It's 762 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:21,839 design is as simple as it sounds. It's 763 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:24,470 design is as simple as it sounds. It's just to kind of shred or sorry not shred 764 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:24,480 just to kind of shred or sorry not shred 765 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,269 just to kind of shred or sorry not shred but shroud and protect the bearings from 766 00:14:27,269 --> 00:14:27,279 but shroud and protect the bearings from 767 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:29,509 but shroud and protect the bearings from allowing those ropes and strings and 768 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:29,519 allowing those ropes and strings and 769 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,069 allowing those ropes and strings and twine to get in you know wrapped around. 770 00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:32,079 twine to get in you know wrapped around. 771 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:33,509 twine to get in you know wrapped around. >> That is interesting. Yeah. I mean, I 772 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:33,519 >> That is interesting. Yeah. I mean, I 773 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,509 >> That is interesting. Yeah. I mean, I just can't like just thinking about how 774 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:35,519 just can't like just thinking about how 775 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,590 just can't like just thinking about how many things go into the trash, right? 776 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:37,600 many things go into the trash, right? 777 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,030 many things go into the trash, right? There's so many variables and like 778 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:39,040 There's so many variables and like 779 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,350 There's so many variables and like unforeseen things that could that could 780 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:41,360 unforeseen things that could that could 781 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,350 unforeseen things that could that could crop up. But uh but but it looks like I 782 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:43,360 crop up. But uh but but it looks like I 783 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,710 crop up. But uh but but it looks like I mean you guys obviously have scaled up 784 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:44,720 mean you guys obviously have scaled up 785 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,629 mean you guys obviously have scaled up tremendously. So so this uh sorting 786 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:46,639 tremendously. So so this uh sorting 787 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:49,990 tremendously. So so this uh sorting process works very well. So now let's 788 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:50,000 process works very well. So now let's 789 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,430 process works very well. So now let's let's move on, right? We've got the 790 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:51,440 let's move on, right? We've got the 791 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,910 let's move on, right? We've got the waste in the form that you need. So 792 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:53,920 waste in the form that you need. So 793 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,750 waste in the form that you need. So what's this is the this is the most 794 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:55,760 what's this is the this is the most 795 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,310 what's this is the this is the most interesting part to me um in terms of 796 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:58,320 interesting part to me um in terms of 797 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,910 interesting part to me um in terms of coming from like a chemistry molecular 798 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:59,920 coming from like a chemistry molecular 799 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,509 coming from like a chemistry molecular biology background. We have these 800 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:01,519 biology background. We have these 801 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:04,150 biology background. We have these bacteria. what are they doing? H how is 802 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:04,160 bacteria. what are they doing? H how is 803 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,670 bacteria. what are they doing? H how is it happening mechanistically that 804 00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:05,680 it happening mechanistically that 805 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,069 it happening mechanistically that they're taking uh this this waste and 806 00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:08,079 they're taking uh this this waste and 807 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:10,629 they're taking uh this this waste and making bio gas and fertilizer and and 808 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:10,639 making bio gas and fertilizer and and 809 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:12,790 making bio gas and fertilizer and and that sort of stuff? 810 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:12,800 that sort of stuff? 811 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,870 that sort of stuff? >> Yeah, it's actually, you know, a process 812 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:14,880 >> Yeah, it's actually, you know, a process 813 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,790 >> Yeah, it's actually, you know, a process that's been around for, you could argue, 814 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:16,800 that's been around for, you could argue, 815 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,509 that's been around for, you could argue, you know, billions of years. the all of 816 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:19,519 you know, billions of years. the all of 817 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:21,509 you know, billions of years. the all of our fossil fuels that we're currently 818 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:21,519 our fossil fuels that we're currently 819 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,670 our fossil fuels that we're currently consuming now actually originated in a 820 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:23,680 consuming now actually originated in a 821 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,829 consuming now actually originated in a very similar process of anorobic 822 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:25,839 very similar process of anorobic 823 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:28,870 very similar process of anorobic digestion and then some additional ge 824 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:28,880 digestion and then some additional ge 825 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,189 digestion and then some additional ge geological processes that heat and 826 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:31,199 geological processes that heat and 827 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:33,350 geological processes that heat and pressure and converted into the fossil 828 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:33,360 pressure and converted into the fossil 829 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,350 pressure and converted into the fossil fuels we know. But in the end, we're 830 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:35,360 fuels we know. But in the end, we're 831 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,670 fuels we know. But in the end, we're just taking that original anorobic 832 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:37,680 just taking that original anorobic 833 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,230 just taking that original anorobic digestion of plankton and algae and and 834 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:40,240 digestion of plankton and algae and and 835 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,150 digestion of plankton and algae and and all those other organic material and 836 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:42,160 all those other organic material and 837 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,150 all those other organic material and just bringing it into a much shorter 838 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:44,160 just bringing it into a much shorter 839 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,389 just bringing it into a much shorter period of time. And essentially what's 840 00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:46,399 period of time. And essentially what's 841 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,629 period of time. And essentially what's happening is you know you have four 842 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:48,639 happening is you know you have four 843 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:50,230 happening is you know you have four stages. You have hydraysis, 844 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:50,240 stages. You have hydraysis, 845 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,470 stages. You have hydraysis, acettogenesis, acettogenesis and then 846 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:52,480 acettogenesis, acettogenesis and then 847 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,629 acettogenesis, acettogenesis and then followed by methanogenesis. 848 00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:54,639 followed by methanogenesis. 849 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,949 followed by methanogenesis. And it's just a combination of biomass 850 00:15:56,949 --> 00:15:56,959 And it's just a combination of biomass 851 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:00,310 And it's just a combination of biomass that's eating up these organic materials 852 00:16:00,310 --> 00:16:00,320 that's eating up these organic materials 853 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,670 that's eating up these organic materials and converting it to CO2 854 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:03,680 and converting it to CO2 855 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,509 and converting it to CO2 uh some other trace gases and methane 856 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:07,519 uh some other trace gases and methane 857 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:08,949 uh some other trace gases and methane and and that's what we're harnessing 858 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:08,959 and and that's what we're harnessing 859 00:16:08,959 --> 00:16:10,470 and and that's what we're harnessing throughout the process. Very 860 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:10,480 throughout the process. Very 861 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,790 throughout the process. Very interestingly, it's it it is a 862 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:12,800 interestingly, it's it it is a 863 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,189 interestingly, it's it it is a combination of bacteria and archa. And 864 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:15,199 combination of bacteria and archa. And 865 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:17,749 combination of bacteria and archa. And there and these archa are really quite 866 00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:17,759 there and these archa are really quite 867 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:19,670 there and these archa are really quite fascinating because they've been around 868 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:19,680 fascinating because they've been around 869 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,110 fascinating because they've been around since, 870 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:21,120 since, 871 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,269 since, >> you know, billion years. And there's no 872 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:23,279 >> you know, billion years. And there's no 873 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,509 >> you know, billion years. And there's no known bacteria that can do that process 874 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:25,519 known bacteria that can do that process 875 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:29,189 known bacteria that can do that process of converting um hydrogen and acetic 876 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:29,199 of converting um hydrogen and acetic 877 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:32,470 of converting um hydrogen and acetic acid into methane. And those archa are 878 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:32,480 acid into methane. And those archa are 879 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,310 acid into methane. And those archa are really what are are being exploited 880 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:34,320 really what are are being exploited 881 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,150 really what are are being exploited here. And we're doing so in a very much 882 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:36,160 here. And we're doing so in a very much 883 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,670 here. And we're doing so in a very much an engineering process. You know, we 884 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:37,680 an engineering process. You know, we 885 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,550 an engineering process. You know, we give them nice clean tanks with a 886 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:40,560 give them nice clean tanks with a 887 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,350 give them nice clean tanks with a perfectly conditioned environment of 38 888 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:43,360 perfectly conditioned environment of 38 889 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,150 perfectly conditioned environment of 38 to 40 degrees C. We mix it very 890 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:46,160 to 40 degrees C. We mix it very 891 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,749 to 40 degrees C. We mix it very intensely so that it's nice and 892 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:47,759 intensely so that it's nice and 893 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:50,230 intensely so that it's nice and homogeneous and then you just feed them 894 00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:50,240 homogeneous and then you just feed them 895 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,710 homogeneous and then you just feed them and kind of waste them periodically and 896 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:52,720 and kind of waste them periodically and 897 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,389 and kind of waste them periodically and they do the rest for us. 898 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:54,399 they do the rest for us. 899 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:55,990 they do the rest for us. >> That is fascinating. I mean, yeah, it 900 00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:56,000 >> That is fascinating. I mean, yeah, it 901 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,470 >> That is fascinating. I mean, yeah, it it's it's it's we can't always think 902 00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:58,480 it's it's it's we can't always think 903 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,749 it's it's it's we can't always think that way of just like all of those 904 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:59,759 that way of just like all of those 905 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,350 that way of just like all of those fossil fuels that we find in the earth, 906 00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:01,360 fossil fuels that we find in the earth, 907 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,949 fossil fuels that we find in the earth, they were created by these similar 908 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:02,959 they were created by these similar 909 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:04,549 they were created by these similar processes. we just kind of you're 910 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:04,559 processes. we just kind of you're 911 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:06,309 processes. we just kind of you're isolating them and giving them the ideal 912 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:06,319 isolating them and giving them the ideal 913 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,710 isolating them and giving them the ideal conditions and uh you know uh pressurize 914 00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:08,720 conditions and uh you know uh pressurize 915 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,909 conditions and uh you know uh pressurize everything and just uh it's uh mimicking 916 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:11,919 everything and just uh it's uh mimicking 917 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:14,069 everything and just uh it's uh mimicking uh natural processes just just speeding 918 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:14,079 uh natural processes just just speeding 919 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:17,510 uh natural processes just just speeding them up incredibly. But um so it's very 920 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:17,520 them up incredibly. But um so it's very 921 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,710 them up incredibly. But um so it's very interesting to me. I mean it seems like 922 00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:18,720 interesting to me. I mean it seems like 923 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,710 interesting to me. I mean it seems like this area is is experiencing a lot of 924 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:20,720 this area is is experiencing a lot of 925 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,829 this area is is experiencing a lot of breakthrough and the mind kind of goes 926 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:23,839 breakthrough and the mind kind of goes 927 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:25,510 breakthrough and the mind kind of goes wild, right? We're thinking into the 928 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:25,520 wild, right? We're thinking into the 929 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,710 wild, right? We're thinking into the future. We're thinking of the 930 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:26,720 future. We're thinking of the 931 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,270 future. We're thinking of the potentiality for like a truly circular 932 00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:29,280 potentiality for like a truly circular 933 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,230 potentiality for like a truly circular economy where just like 100% of all of 934 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:32,240 economy where just like 100% of all of 935 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,630 economy where just like 100% of all of our waste is turned entirely into 936 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:34,640 our waste is turned entirely into 937 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,150 our waste is turned entirely into renewable energy that supports 938 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:36,160 renewable energy that supports 939 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,230 renewable energy that supports everybody. That's I mean it's kind of a 940 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:38,240 everybody. That's I mean it's kind of a 941 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,870 everybody. That's I mean it's kind of a pipe dream, but is that realistic? Are 942 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:40,880 pipe dream, but is that realistic? Are 943 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,110 pipe dream, but is that realistic? Are we anywhere near that kind of a 944 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:43,120 we anywhere near that kind of a 945 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:44,950 we anywhere near that kind of a scenario? What do you envision for the 946 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:44,960 scenario? What do you envision for the 947 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,190 scenario? What do you envision for the future with this technology? 948 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:47,200 future with this technology? 949 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,630 future with this technology? >> Yeah, it's it is a utopic idea and there 950 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:50,640 >> Yeah, it's it is a utopic idea and there 951 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,950 >> Yeah, it's it is a utopic idea and there are regions for example Denmark that's a 952 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:52,960 are regions for example Denmark that's a 953 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,190 are regions for example Denmark that's a real lighthouse country. uh they've been 954 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:55,200 real lighthouse country. uh they've been 955 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,990 real lighthouse country. uh they've been able to actually reach 40% of their 956 00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:58,000 able to actually reach 40% of their 957 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,230 able to actually reach 40% of their natural gas consumption comes from their 958 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:00,240 natural gas consumption comes from their 959 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,789 natural gas consumption comes from their own domestically produced renewable 960 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:02,799 own domestically produced renewable 961 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,510 own domestically produced renewable natural gas from dairy manure, organics, 962 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:05,520 natural gas from dairy manure, organics, 963 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,590 natural gas from dairy manure, organics, food waste, all of these materials that 964 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:07,600 food waste, all of these materials that 965 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,750 food waste, all of these materials that we talked about. And even in some summer 966 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:09,760 we talked about. And even in some summer 967 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,590 we talked about. And even in some summer months, they've already hit 100% and 968 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:11,600 months, they've already hit 100% and 969 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,510 months, they've already hit 100% and they're exporting. They're exporters of 970 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:13,520 they're exporting. They're exporters of 971 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,470 they're exporting. They're exporters of natural gas. They have aspirations to 972 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:16,480 natural gas. They have aspirations to 973 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,230 natural gas. They have aspirations to hit 100% within the next say 10 years. 974 00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:20,240 hit 100% within the next say 10 years. 975 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,710 hit 100% within the next say 10 years. When we look more broad, you know, the 976 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:22,720 When we look more broad, you know, the 977 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,430 When we look more broad, you know, the European Union in general is about 6% 978 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:25,440 European Union in general is about 6% 979 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,190 European Union in general is about 6% right now. So that's fairly that's 980 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:27,200 right now. So that's fairly that's 981 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,070 right now. So that's fairly that's fairly good. Uh do I think we can get to 982 00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:30,080 fairly good. Uh do I think we can get to 983 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,710 fairly good. Uh do I think we can get to 100% not just from organic waste alone, 984 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:32,720 100% not just from organic waste alone, 985 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,950 100% not just from organic waste alone, but certainly we can make a a major dent 986 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:34,960 but certainly we can make a a major dent 987 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,270 but certainly we can make a a major dent in it. And you can see if 6% alone 988 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:37,280 in it. And you can see if 6% alone 989 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,029 in it. And you can see if 6% alone across Europe, we're not even close to 990 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:39,039 across Europe, we're not even close to 991 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:42,070 across Europe, we're not even close to that here in in North America and in 992 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:42,080 that here in in North America and in 993 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,950 that here in in North America and in Asia and Africa where the trash is being 994 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:44,960 Asia and Africa where the trash is being 995 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,190 Asia and Africa where the trash is being accumulated at the fastest rate. That's 996 00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:47,200 accumulated at the fastest rate. That's 997 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,789 accumulated at the fastest rate. That's where you know the most population 998 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:48,799 where you know the most population 999 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,590 where you know the most population growth, the most increase in standard of 1000 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:51,600 growth, the most increase in standard of 1001 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,669 growth, the most increase in standard of living which ultimately creates the food 1002 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:53,679 living which ultimately creates the food 1003 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:56,390 living which ultimately creates the food waste is happening and they're not even 1004 00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:56,400 waste is happening and they're not even 1005 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,909 waste is happening and they're not even started really with with organic to bio 1006 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:59,919 started really with with organic to bio 1007 00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:02,230 started really with with organic to bio gas. So it's definitely going to make a 1008 00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:02,240 gas. So it's definitely going to make a 1009 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,230 gas. So it's definitely going to make a critical role like we see already in 1010 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:04,240 critical role like we see already in 1011 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,510 critical role like we see already in Europe at 6%. It it won't fully offset 1012 00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:07,520 Europe at 6%. It it won't fully offset 1013 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,310 Europe at 6%. It it won't fully offset it, but it can be definitely part of the 1014 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:10,320 it, but it can be definitely part of the 1015 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,390 it, but it can be definitely part of the of the supply chain for natural gas. 1016 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:12,400 of the supply chain for natural gas. 1017 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,150 of the supply chain for natural gas. >> Right. But that's I mean that's actually 1018 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:14,160 >> Right. But that's I mean that's actually 1019 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,310 >> Right. But that's I mean that's actually fascinating to hear already. I mean, 1020 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:16,320 fascinating to hear already. I mean, 1021 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,070 fascinating to hear already. I mean, obviously in certain regions it's going 1022 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:18,080 obviously in certain regions it's going 1023 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,590 obviously in certain regions it's going to come first and then you have a proof 1024 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:19,600 to come first and then you have a proof 1025 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,029 to come first and then you have a proof of concept and then it's simply an 1026 00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:21,039 of concept and then it's simply an 1027 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,430 of concept and then it's simply an economic barrier to implement globally, 1028 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:23,440 economic barrier to implement globally, 1029 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,990 economic barrier to implement globally, but uh I I feel like the science is the 1030 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:26,000 but uh I I feel like the science is the 1031 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,590 but uh I I feel like the science is the hard part. Well, I don't know if that's 1032 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:27,600 hard part. Well, I don't know if that's 1033 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,870 hard part. Well, I don't know if that's true. Do you think the science is the 1034 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:28,880 true. Do you think the science is the 1035 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,789 true. Do you think the science is the hard part or do you think that uh 1036 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:30,799 hard part or do you think that uh 1037 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:32,630 hard part or do you think that uh globalization and all of the 1038 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:32,640 globalization and all of the 1039 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,549 globalization and all of the bureaucratic barriers, do you think that 1040 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:34,559 bureaucratic barriers, do you think that 1041 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:36,470 bureaucratic barriers, do you think that that's a bigger challenge? 1042 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:36,480 that's a bigger challenge? 1043 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,350 that's a bigger challenge? Yeah, it it's likely is the bureaucratic 1044 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:39,360 Yeah, it it's likely is the bureaucratic 1045 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,669 Yeah, it it's likely is the bureaucratic challenges because na renewable natural 1046 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:41,679 challenges because na renewable natural 1047 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:44,950 challenges because na renewable natural gas is frankly speaking more expensive 1048 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:44,960 gas is frankly speaking more expensive 1049 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,830 gas is frankly speaking more expensive than fossil natural gas. It's it's 1050 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:47,840 than fossil natural gas. It's it's 1051 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,510 than fossil natural gas. It's it's easier to you know punch a hole in the 1052 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:49,520 easier to you know punch a hole in the 1053 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,669 easier to you know punch a hole in the ground and pull the natural gas out than 1054 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:51,679 ground and pull the natural gas out than 1055 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:53,750 ground and pull the natural gas out than it is to set up these bio facilities 1056 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:53,760 it is to set up these bio facilities 1057 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,990 it is to set up these bio facilities that separate the waste, 1058 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:56,000 that separate the waste, 1059 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,909 that separate the waste, >> use the anorobic digesttor to produce it 1060 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:57,919 >> use the anorobic digesttor to produce it 1061 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:00,230 >> use the anorobic digesttor to produce it and then purify it and then dispose of 1062 00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:00,240 and then purify it and then dispose of 1063 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,710 and then purify it and then dispose of or beneficially re utilize the 1064 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:02,720 or beneficially re utilize the 1065 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,430 or beneficially re utilize the digestate. So we need the incentives 1066 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:05,440 digestate. So we need the incentives 1067 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,950 digestate. So we need the incentives from the countries 1068 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:06,960 from the countries 1069 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,150 from the countries >> and Europe is ahead of that. Uh the US 1070 00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:10,160 >> and Europe is ahead of that. Uh the US 1071 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,029 >> and Europe is ahead of that. Uh the US was also making major motions. There's 1072 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:13,039 was also making major motions. There's 1073 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:16,549 was also making major motions. There's other places South Korea. So we it is 1074 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:16,559 other places South Korea. So we it is 1075 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,070 other places South Korea. So we it is more of the bureaucratic side because 1076 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:18,080 more of the bureaucratic side because 1077 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,150 more of the bureaucratic side because the science is there. It's been proven 1078 00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:20,160 the science is there. It's been proven 1079 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,990 the science is there. It's been proven over you know three decades. 1080 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:22,000 over you know three decades. 1081 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,230 over you know three decades. >> Yeah. 1082 00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:22,240 >> Yeah. 1083 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,230 >> Yeah. >> And now it's just a matter of of getting 1084 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:24,240 >> And now it's just a matter of of getting 1085 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,630 >> And now it's just a matter of of getting it implemented and seeing it move 1086 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:26,640 it implemented and seeing it move 1087 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,909 it implemented and seeing it move forward. Fortunately I I it is the right 1088 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:29,919 forward. Fortunately I I it is the right 1089 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:31,750 forward. Fortunately I I it is the right thing to do with organic waste. 1090 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:31,760 thing to do with organic waste. 1091 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,510 thing to do with organic waste. >> Right. Just like a over a hundred years 1092 00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:33,520 >> Right. Just like a over a hundred years 1093 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,270 >> Right. Just like a over a hundred years ago, we used to flush toilets and it 1094 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:35,280 ago, we used to flush toilets and it 1095 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,510 ago, we used to flush toilets and it went right into the river. And then we 1096 00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:37,520 went right into the river. And then we 1097 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,270 went right into the river. And then we got smart to it. We started realizing, 1098 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:39,280 got smart to it. We started realizing, 1099 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,950 got smart to it. We started realizing, no, no, this is crazy. We can't be 1100 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:40,960 no, no, this is crazy. We can't be 1101 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,270 no, no, this is crazy. We can't be drinking from the river water that we, 1102 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:43,280 drinking from the river water that we, 1103 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,310 drinking from the river water that we, you know, send our our sewage out. 1104 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:46,320 you know, send our our sewage out. 1105 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,950 you know, send our our sewage out. >> Yeah. 1106 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:46,960 >> Yeah. 1107 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,789 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, we're going to get 1108 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:48,799 >> Yeah. Exactly. So, we're going to get 1109 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:50,070 >> Yeah. Exactly. So, we're going to get there. We're going to figure out that 1110 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:50,080 there. We're going to figure out that 1111 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,149 there. We're going to figure out that it's crazy to put food waste into 1112 00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:52,159 it's crazy to put food waste into 1113 00:20:52,159 --> 00:20:54,390 it's crazy to put food waste into landfills and it's crazy to like leave 1114 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:54,400 landfills and it's crazy to like leave 1115 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,789 landfills and it's crazy to like leave these manurs in big holding tanks where 1116 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:56,799 these manurs in big holding tanks where 1117 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,110 these manurs in big holding tanks where they burp out methane into the 1118 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:59,120 they burp out methane into the 1119 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,029 they burp out methane into the environment. So we're we're going to get 1120 00:21:01,029 --> 00:21:01,039 environment. So we're we're going to get 1121 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:03,669 environment. So we're we're going to get around to it and so the policies will 1122 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:03,679 around to it and so the policies will 1123 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:04,390 around to it and so the policies will follow. 1124 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:04,400 follow. 1125 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,750 follow. >> Yeah, we have this tremendous other 1126 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:05,760 >> Yeah, we have this tremendous other 1127 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,350 >> Yeah, we have this tremendous other application. It's just a matter of time. 1128 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:07,360 application. It's just a matter of time. 1129 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,750 application. It's just a matter of time. I mean and and so you know we're talking 1130 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:09,760 I mean and and so you know we're talking 1131 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,190 I mean and and so you know we're talking about biogas, but I also want to talk 1132 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:11,200 about biogas, but I also want to talk 1133 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,110 about biogas, but I also want to talk about uh you're also getting this digest 1134 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:13,120 about uh you're also getting this digest 1135 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:15,270 about uh you're also getting this digest state. So what is that? What is the 1136 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:15,280 state. So what is that? What is the 1137 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,909 state. So what is that? What is the composition of this uh substance? Can we 1138 00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:17,919 composition of this uh substance? Can we 1139 00:21:17,919 --> 00:21:19,669 composition of this uh substance? Can we use this as fertilizer? This is a whole 1140 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:19,679 use this as fertilizer? This is a whole 1141 00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:21,430 use this as fertilizer? This is a whole another application where we can 1142 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:21,440 another application where we can 1143 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,750 another application where we can rejuvenate agriculture. Uh let's talk 1144 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:23,760 rejuvenate agriculture. Uh let's talk 1145 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,270 rejuvenate agriculture. Uh let's talk about that. 1146 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:25,280 about that. 1147 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,029 about that. >> Yeah, definitely. I I mean bio gas 1148 00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:29,039 >> Yeah, definitely. I I mean bio gas 1149 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:30,870 >> Yeah, definitely. I I mean bio gas plants in themselves are actually only 1150 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:30,880 plants in themselves are actually only 1151 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,870 plants in themselves are actually only making about 10% of the weight that goes 1152 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:32,880 making about 10% of the weight that goes 1153 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,390 making about 10% of the weight that goes into them as renewable natural gas. So 1154 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:36,400 into them as renewable natural gas. So 1155 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,789 into them as renewable natural gas. So they're more a digestate factory than 1156 00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:38,799 they're more a digestate factory than 1157 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:41,590 they're more a digestate factory than they are really a renewable natural gas 1158 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:41,600 they are really a renewable natural gas 1159 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,710 they are really a renewable natural gas facility. So that use of that digestate 1160 00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:44,720 facility. So that use of that digestate 1161 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,110 facility. So that use of that digestate is critically important. I'd say that 1162 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:47,120 is critically important. I'd say that 1163 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,270 is critically important. I'd say that the major nutrients have not 1164 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:49,280 the major nutrients have not 1165 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,590 the major nutrients have not disappeared. They've just changed form. 1166 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:51,600 disappeared. They've just changed form. 1167 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,909 disappeared. They've just changed form. So a lot of the organic nitrogen becomes 1168 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:53,919 So a lot of the organic nitrogen becomes 1169 00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:57,110 So a lot of the organic nitrogen becomes more available forms of ammonia. Uh the 1170 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:57,120 more available forms of ammonia. Uh the 1171 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,270 more available forms of ammonia. Uh the phosphorus is largely you know unchanged 1172 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:59,280 phosphorus is largely you know unchanged 1173 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,110 phosphorus is largely you know unchanged or it's maybe converted a little bit to 1174 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:01,120 or it's maybe converted a little bit to 1175 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,310 or it's maybe converted a little bit to ortho phosphates and things like uh 1176 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:04,320 ortho phosphates and things like uh 1177 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,750 ortho phosphates and things like uh potassium are just left in solution. So 1178 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:07,760 potassium are just left in solution. So 1179 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,430 potassium are just left in solution. So there's definitely opportunities. The 1180 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:09,440 there's definitely opportunities. The 1181 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,430 there's definitely opportunities. The the simplest form is you just take the 1182 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:11,440 the simplest form is you just take the 1183 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,149 the simplest form is you just take the liquid digestate out of the anorobic 1184 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:14,159 liquid digestate out of the anorobic 1185 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,230 liquid digestate out of the anorobic digesttor and spread it onto land. And 1186 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:16,240 digesttor and spread it onto land. And 1187 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,549 digesttor and spread it onto land. And this is great if you have arid climates 1188 00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:18,559 this is great if you have arid climates 1189 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:20,549 this is great if you have arid climates or you're you're located close to the 1190 00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:20,559 or you're you're located close to the 1191 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,870 or you're you're located close to the farmland. This isn't always the case 1192 00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:22,880 farmland. This isn't always the case 1193 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,630 farmland. This isn't always the case though. You have urban based anorobic 1194 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:24,640 though. You have urban based anorobic 1195 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,270 though. You have urban based anorobic digesttors. In those situations, we 1196 00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:27,280 digesttors. In those situations, we 1197 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,669 digesttors. In those situations, we often use something called dewatering or 1198 00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:29,679 often use something called dewatering or 1199 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:32,149 often use something called dewatering or solid liquid separation. And we'll pull 1200 00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:32,159 solid liquid separation. And we'll pull 1201 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,230 solid liquid separation. And we'll pull the vast majority of the nutrients into 1202 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:34,240 the vast majority of the nutrients into 1203 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,029 the vast majority of the nutrients into a solid cake. It looks like cookie dough 1204 00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:37,039 a solid cake. It looks like cookie dough 1205 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,909 a solid cake. It looks like cookie dough or a batter sort of material. And then 1206 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:39,919 or a batter sort of material. And then 1207 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:41,909 or a batter sort of material. And then that could be more economically 1208 00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:41,919 that could be more economically 1209 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:45,270 that could be more economically transported off to compost facilities or 1210 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:45,280 transported off to compost facilities or 1211 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,430 transported off to compost facilities or >> right onto the farmland. And the liquid 1212 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:47,440 >> right onto the farmland. And the liquid 1213 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,669 >> right onto the farmland. And the liquid that's been separated could go to a 1214 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:49,679 that's been separated could go to a 1215 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:51,190 that's been separated could go to a conventional wastewater treatment plant 1216 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:51,200 conventional wastewater treatment plant 1217 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,350 conventional wastewater treatment plant or even be used for some dilution 1218 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:53,360 or even be used for some dilution 1219 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,029 or even be used for some dilution purposes on site. 1220 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:55,039 purposes on site. 1221 00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:57,029 purposes on site. >> So I I yeah I mean I've heard of things 1222 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:57,039 >> So I I yeah I mean I've heard of things 1223 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:58,950 >> So I I yeah I mean I've heard of things like phosphorus shortage and and stuff 1224 00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:58,960 like phosphorus shortage and and stuff 1225 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,270 like phosphorus shortage and and stuff like that. Is this at all a solution or 1226 00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:01,280 like that. Is this at all a solution or 1227 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,789 like that. Is this at all a solution or a partial solution to some of those 1228 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:02,799 a partial solution to some of those 1229 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:04,230 a partial solution to some of those problems? 1230 00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:04,240 problems? 1231 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,510 problems? Yeah, for for sure it is because if you 1232 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:07,520 Yeah, for for sure it is because if you 1233 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,070 Yeah, for for sure it is because if you throw that, you know, halfeaten 1234 00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:10,080 throw that, you know, halfeaten 1235 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,669 throw that, you know, halfeaten cheeseburger or leftover onion peels, 1236 00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:13,679 cheeseburger or leftover onion peels, 1237 00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:15,590 cheeseburger or leftover onion peels, whatever it is, the food waste out into 1238 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:15,600 whatever it is, the food waste out into 1239 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,830 whatever it is, the food waste out into the landfill, that phosphorus is lost 1240 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:17,840 the landfill, that phosphorus is lost 1241 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,029 the landfill, that phosphorus is lost indefinitely 1242 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:19,039 indefinitely 1243 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:21,510 indefinitely >> until we start mining landfills for the 1244 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:21,520 >> until we start mining landfills for the 1245 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,310 >> until we start mining landfills for the for the materials that we threw away. Uh 1246 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:24,320 for the materials that we threw away. Uh 1247 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,310 for the materials that we threw away. Uh whereas if you use the biodigtor, it 1248 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:26,320 whereas if you use the biodigtor, it 1249 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,149 whereas if you use the biodigtor, it becomes available and you can transport 1250 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:28,159 becomes available and you can transport 1251 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:30,549 becomes available and you can transport it safely back out into the farmland. 1252 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:30,559 it safely back out into the farmland. 1253 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,630 it safely back out into the farmland. And you really do, as you put it, Dave, 1254 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:32,640 And you really do, as you put it, Dave, 1255 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,350 And you really do, as you put it, Dave, you create that circularity and you you 1256 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:35,360 you create that circularity and you you 1257 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,110 you create that circularity and you you make that, you know, perfect circle 1258 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:37,120 make that, you know, perfect circle 1259 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,390 make that, you know, perfect circle where it's harvested, consumed, 1260 00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:40,400 where it's harvested, consumed, 1261 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,630 where it's harvested, consumed, recycled, returned to the land, and it's 1262 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:42,640 recycled, returned to the land, and it's 1263 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,430 recycled, returned to the land, and it's a beautiful 1264 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:43,440 a beautiful 1265 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,190 a beautiful >> to create more crops. We eat the food. 1266 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:45,200 >> to create more crops. We eat the food. 1267 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,510 >> to create more crops. We eat the food. Yeah. Just keep it going, right? That's 1268 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:47,520 Yeah. Just keep it going, right? That's 1269 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,070 Yeah. Just keep it going, right? That's >> exactly 1270 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:48,080 >> exactly 1271 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,149 >> exactly >> to me how obviously what we should be 1272 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:50,159 >> to me how obviously what we should be 1273 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:54,470 >> to me how obviously what we should be striving for. Um, in terms of so like we 1274 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:54,480 striving for. Um, in terms of so like we 1275 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,390 striving for. Um, in terms of so like we know you guys have so many facilities 1276 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:56,400 know you guys have so many facilities 1277 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,630 know you guys have so many facilities around the world as do other entities. I 1278 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:58,640 around the world as do other entities. I 1279 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,750 around the world as do other entities. I mean so as you were saying like this the 1280 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:01,760 mean so as you were saying like this the 1281 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,669 mean so as you were saying like this the proof of concept is there. You guys have 1282 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:03,679 proof of concept is there. You guys have 1283 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:05,830 proof of concept is there. You guys have scaled up to large industrial facilities 1284 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:05,840 scaled up to large industrial facilities 1285 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,149 scaled up to large industrial facilities very successfully. Um can you tell me 1286 00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:08,159 very successfully. Um can you tell me 1287 00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:09,990 very successfully. Um can you tell me what that process was like? Were there 1288 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:10,000 what that process was like? Were there 1289 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,630 what that process was like? Were there any unforeseen challenges or nonlinear 1290 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:12,640 any unforeseen challenges or nonlinear 1291 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,990 any unforeseen challenges or nonlinear effect? Um you know what can that serve 1292 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:16,000 effect? Um you know what can that serve 1293 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,630 effect? Um you know what can that serve as a lesson to other areas of the world 1294 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:18,640 as a lesson to other areas of the world 1295 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,630 as a lesson to other areas of the world that may be trying to catch up and and 1296 00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:20,640 that may be trying to catch up and and 1297 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,190 that may be trying to catch up and and implement these processes themselves? Um 1298 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:23,200 implement these processes themselves? Um 1299 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,510 implement these processes themselves? Um what was that all about? 1300 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:25,520 what was that all about? 1301 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,029 what was that all about? Yeah, for sure. There was a lot of 1302 00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:27,039 Yeah, for sure. There was a lot of 1303 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,870 Yeah, for sure. There was a lot of learning. Uh the the cost or the cost of 1304 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:30,880 learning. Uh the the cost or the cost of 1305 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,070 learning. Uh the the cost or the cost of the tuition was very high. So, we had to 1306 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:34,080 the tuition was very high. So, we had to 1307 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,710 the tuition was very high. So, we had to solve many problems. And fortunately, we 1308 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:36,720 solve many problems. And fortunately, we 1309 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,470 solve many problems. And fortunately, we have been able to implement it into our 1310 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:38,480 have been able to implement it into our 1311 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,190 have been able to implement it into our plants. Now, uh types of mixers that we 1312 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:41,200 plants. Now, uh types of mixers that we 1313 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,669 plants. Now, uh types of mixers that we use, how we pre-process the material 1314 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:43,679 use, how we pre-process the material 1315 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:45,669 use, how we pre-process the material like shredding and grinding to make it 1316 00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:45,679 like shredding and grinding to make it 1317 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,430 like shredding and grinding to make it more accessible, how we do the 1318 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:47,440 more accessible, how we do the 1319 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,669 more accessible, how we do the dewatering on the back end, those were 1320 00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:49,679 dewatering on the back end, those were 1321 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:52,710 dewatering on the back end, those were all lessons that we learned. And for 1322 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:52,720 all lessons that we learned. And for 1323 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,029 all lessons that we learned. And for sure within Aneria we are trying to 1324 00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:55,039 sure within Aneria we are trying to 1325 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:56,789 sure within Aneria we are trying to scale all the way around the world. We 1326 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:56,799 scale all the way around the world. We 1327 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:01,110 scale all the way around the world. We have offices in emerging economies like 1328 00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:01,120 have offices in emerging economies like 1329 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,390 have offices in emerging economies like Singapore and Japan and Australia and as 1330 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:04,400 Singapore and Japan and Australia and as 1331 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,510 Singapore and Japan and Australia and as well all all throughout Europe. Uh so we 1332 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:07,520 well all all throughout Europe. Uh so we 1333 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,510 well all all throughout Europe. Uh so we are aiming to spread those lessons 1334 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:09,520 are aiming to spread those lessons 1335 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,430 are aiming to spread those lessons learned throughout the community and I 1336 00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:11,440 learned throughout the community and I 1337 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,070 learned throughout the community and I would say the bio gas space in general 1338 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:14,080 would say the bio gas space in general 1339 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,950 would say the bio gas space in general is a collaborative one. We are looking 1340 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:16,960 is a collaborative one. We are looking 1341 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,950 is a collaborative one. We are looking to support other firms and we use lots 1342 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:20,960 to support other firms and we use lots 1343 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,789 to support other firms and we use lots of technologies that we buy off the 1344 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:22,799 of technologies that we buy off the 1345 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,870 of technologies that we buy off the market as well and that allows for that 1346 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:24,880 market as well and that allows for that 1347 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,149 market as well and that allows for that kind of cross-pollination and and uh and 1348 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:28,159 kind of cross-pollination and and uh and 1349 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:31,669 kind of cross-pollination and and uh and sharing of the lessons learned 1350 00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:31,679 sharing of the lessons learned 1351 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,830 sharing of the lessons learned >> into I I've been doing a lot of you know 1352 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:33,840 >> into I I've been doing a lot of you know 1353 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,710 >> into I I've been doing a lot of you know obviously uh I focus on my channel on on 1354 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:36,720 obviously uh I focus on my channel on on 1355 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,549 obviously uh I focus on my channel on on science denial and climate change denial 1356 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:38,559 science denial and climate change denial 1357 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,110 science denial and climate change denial is one of the most uh is one of the you 1358 00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:41,120 is one of the most uh is one of the you 1359 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,190 is one of the most uh is one of the you know most dilitterious forms of of 1360 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:43,200 know most dilitterious forms of of 1361 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,350 know most dilitterious forms of of science denial and so in getting a sense 1362 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:45,360 science denial and so in getting a sense 1363 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,269 science denial and so in getting a sense of where we're at with warming. How, you 1364 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:47,279 of where we're at with warming. How, you 1365 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,830 of where we're at with warming. How, you know, 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial 1366 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:49,840 know, 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial 1367 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,149 know, 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial heading towards two within the next 20, 1368 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:52,159 heading towards two within the next 20, 1369 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,230 heading towards two within the next 20, 30 years maximum. There are a lot of 1370 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:54,240 30 years maximum. There are a lot of 1371 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,149 30 years maximum. There are a lot of solutions that people talk about that 1372 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:56,159 solutions that people talk about that 1373 00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:58,149 solutions that people talk about that are are going to be hard to implement, 1374 00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:58,159 are are going to be hard to implement, 1375 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,230 are are going to be hard to implement, but you guys are already doing something 1376 00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:00,240 but you guys are already doing something 1377 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,710 but you guys are already doing something that is curbing methane emissions and 1378 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:02,720 that is curbing methane emissions and 1379 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,470 that is curbing methane emissions and and potentially other emissions. Do you 1380 00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:04,480 and potentially other emissions. Do you 1381 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,230 and potentially other emissions. Do you have any sense of what how much this 1382 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:08,240 have any sense of what how much this 1383 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,549 have any sense of what how much this activity is slowing warming? Is it a 1384 00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:10,559 activity is slowing warming? Is it a 1385 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,149 activity is slowing warming? Is it a measurable amount that we can already 1386 00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:12,159 measurable amount that we can already 1387 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:14,230 measurable amount that we can already sense is starting to just at least buy 1388 00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:14,240 sense is starting to just at least buy 1389 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,750 sense is starting to just at least buy us a little bit more time to come up 1390 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:15,760 us a little bit more time to come up 1391 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,870 us a little bit more time to come up with broader solutions? 1392 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:18,880 with broader solutions? 1393 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,950 with broader solutions? >> Yeah, I mean I don't have the figures on 1394 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:20,960 >> Yeah, I mean I don't have the figures on 1395 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,190 >> Yeah, I mean I don't have the figures on how much it is slowing it, but what we 1396 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:23,200 how much it is slowing it, but what we 1397 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,549 how much it is slowing it, but what we know is around 45% of global warming is 1398 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:26,559 know is around 45% of global warming is 1399 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,110 know is around 45% of global warming is caused by methane emissions and in fact 1400 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:29,120 caused by methane emissions and in fact 1401 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,750 caused by methane emissions and in fact methane emissions from landfills is the 1402 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:31,760 methane emissions from landfills is the 1403 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,230 methane emissions from landfills is the third largest source of of greenhouse 1404 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:34,240 third largest source of of greenhouse 1405 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,710 third largest source of of greenhouse gas emissions in the world. And so when 1406 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:36,720 gas emissions in the world. And so when 1407 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,510 gas emissions in the world. And so when we control that methane emissions, we're 1408 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:39,520 we control that methane emissions, we're 1409 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,510 we control that methane emissions, we're we're almost certainly going to be 1410 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:41,520 we're almost certainly going to be 1411 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,190 we're almost certainly going to be having a an impact on the total 1.5 1412 00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:45,200 having a an impact on the total 1.5 1413 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,590 having a an impact on the total 1.5 degree increase in temperature as you as 1414 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:47,600 degree increase in temperature as you as 1415 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,789 degree increase in temperature as you as you put it. And the reason for this is 1416 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:50,799 you put it. And the reason for this is 1417 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,190 you put it. And the reason for this is methane has a on a very short timeline 1418 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:53,200 methane has a on a very short timeline 1419 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,830 methane has a on a very short timeline like 20 years, it's actually 84 times 1420 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:55,840 like 20 years, it's actually 84 times 1421 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,549 like 20 years, it's actually 84 times more impactful than CO2. So if you let 1422 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:58,559 more impactful than CO2. So if you let 1423 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,510 more impactful than CO2. So if you let one molecule of methane out, it's 84 1424 00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:01,520 one molecule of methane out, it's 84 1425 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,269 one molecule of methane out, it's 84 times worse than if you had to let one 1426 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:03,279 times worse than if you had to let one 1427 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,710 times worse than if you had to let one molecule of CO2 out. And so it's it is 1428 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:06,720 molecule of CO2 out. And so it's it is 1429 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,110 molecule of CO2 out. And so it's it is critically important that we do identify 1430 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:09,120 critically important that we do identify 1431 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,310 critically important that we do identify these major sources of emission. And 1432 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:12,320 these major sources of emission. And 1433 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,830 these major sources of emission. And fortunately, we're we're now seeing 1434 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:13,840 fortunately, we're we're now seeing 1435 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,990 fortunately, we're we're now seeing technologies that are like mapping 1436 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:16,000 technologies that are like mapping 1437 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,909 technologies that are like mapping landfills. And we thought it was a lot 1438 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:17,919 landfills. And we thought it was a lot 1439 00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:20,549 landfills. And we thought it was a lot less than it was before, but landfills 1440 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:20,559 less than it was before, but landfills 1441 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,029 less than it was before, but landfills are absolute atrocities in terms of 1442 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:23,039 are absolute atrocities in terms of 1443 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,669 are absolute atrocities in terms of emissions of methane. And we can see it 1444 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:25,679 emissions of methane. And we can see it 1445 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:28,310 emissions of methane. And we can see it from both aerial views where we do 1446 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:28,320 from both aerial views where we do 1447 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,710 from both aerial views where we do flyovers and as well using satellite 1448 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:30,720 flyovers and as well using satellite 1449 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,950 flyovers and as well using satellite technology that looks down on the earth 1450 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:32,960 technology that looks down on the earth 1451 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,510 technology that looks down on the earth and these massive plumes of greenhouse 1452 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:35,520 and these massive plumes of greenhouse 1453 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,269 and these massive plumes of greenhouse gas emissions are coming belching out of 1454 00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:37,279 gas emissions are coming belching out of 1455 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,750 gas emissions are coming belching out of these landfills. So certainly 1456 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:39,760 these landfills. So certainly 1457 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,830 these landfills. So certainly >> that's our top priority. Get stop 1458 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:41,840 >> that's our top priority. Get stop 1459 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,750 >> that's our top priority. Get stop sending that food waste there 1460 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:43,760 sending that food waste there 1461 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,029 sending that food waste there >> converted into bio energy. 1462 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:45,039 >> converted into bio energy. 1463 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:46,390 >> converted into bio energy. >> Yeah. I mean there are these various 1464 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:46,400 >> Yeah. I mean there are these various 1465 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,710 >> Yeah. I mean there are these various sources and I mean we're unfortunately 1466 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:48,720 sources and I mean we're unfortunately 1467 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,029 sources and I mean we're unfortunately it won't put a dent in agriculture you 1468 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:51,039 it won't put a dent in agriculture you 1469 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,470 it won't put a dent in agriculture you know or like u you know cows livestock 1470 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:54,480 know or like u you know cows livestock 1471 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,110 know or like u you know cows livestock uh emitting methane but as you say you 1472 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:57,120 uh emitting methane but as you say you 1473 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,950 uh emitting methane but as you say you know landfills third biggest source if 1474 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:58,960 know landfills third biggest source if 1475 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,590 know landfills third biggest source if we are if we're actively moving towards 1476 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:01,600 we are if we're actively moving towards 1477 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,590 we are if we're actively moving towards landfills not existing anymore right 1478 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:03,600 landfills not existing anymore right 1479 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,909 landfills not existing anymore right that's that's absolutely incredible 1480 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:05,919 that's that's absolutely incredible 1481 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:08,389 that's that's absolutely incredible progress um what what happened to all 1482 00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:08,399 progress um what what happened to all 1483 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:09,750 progress um what what happened to all the landfill like I remember when I was 1484 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:09,760 the landfill like I remember when I was 1485 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,590 the landfill like I remember when I was a kid we would drive by this very 1486 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:11,600 a kid we would drive by this very 1487 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,669 a kid we would drive by this very particular landfill uh it was like right 1488 00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:13,679 particular landfill uh it was like right 1489 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:15,909 particular landfill uh it was like right off the freeway and it smelled horrible. 1490 00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:15,919 off the freeway and it smelled horrible. 1491 00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:17,350 off the freeway and it smelled horrible. Um, and then I don't think I've ever 1492 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:17,360 Um, and then I don't think I've ever 1493 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,350 Um, and then I don't think I've ever seen a landfill since. What What has 1494 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:19,360 seen a landfill since. What What has 1495 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,990 seen a landfill since. What What has happened? Where are the landfills at 1496 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:22,000 happened? Where are the landfills at 1497 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,430 happened? Where are the landfills at this point? 1498 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:23,440 this point? 1499 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,190 this point? >> Yeah, they're becoming increasingly 1500 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:25,200 >> Yeah, they're becoming increasingly 1501 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,909 >> Yeah, they're becoming increasingly difficult to permit. So, landfills take, 1502 00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:27,919 difficult to permit. So, landfills take, 1503 00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:31,029 difficult to permit. So, landfills take, you know, tens of years to allow. 1504 00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:31,039 you know, tens of years to allow. 1505 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:32,870 you know, tens of years to allow. >> You can imagine it's the nimiism, right? 1506 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:32,880 >> You can imagine it's the nimiism, right? 1507 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,110 >> You can imagine it's the nimiism, right? Not in my backyard. It's going to stop 1508 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:35,120 Not in my backyard. It's going to stop 1509 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,430 Not in my backyard. It's going to stop the the permitting of those. So, the 1510 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:37,440 the the permitting of those. So, the 1511 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,870 the the permitting of those. So, the ones that do exist are getting 1512 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:38,880 ones that do exist are getting 1513 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,029 ones that do exist are getting concentrated and and really heavily 1514 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:41,039 concentrated and and really heavily 1515 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,990 concentrated and and really heavily utilized. Uh and and then it's kind of 1516 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:44,000 utilized. Uh and and then it's kind of 1517 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,669 utilized. Uh and and then it's kind of the not see it as well. They're they're 1518 00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:45,679 the not see it as well. They're they're 1519 00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:47,190 the not see it as well. They're they're getting really smart to putting up BMS 1520 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:47,200 getting really smart to putting up BMS 1521 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,669 getting really smart to putting up BMS and and kind of keeping them out of out 1522 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:49,679 and and kind of keeping them out of out 1523 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:52,950 and and kind of keeping them out of out of sight. Uh they are still there and 1524 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:52,960 of sight. Uh they are still there and 1525 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,470 of sight. Uh they are still there and we'd love to see a future where they're 1526 00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:54,480 we'd love to see a future where they're 1527 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,029 we'd love to see a future where they're not there. We have plants across Europe 1528 00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:57,039 not there. We have plants across Europe 1529 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,990 not there. We have plants across Europe where we're diverting up to 90% of the 1530 00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:00,000 where we're diverting up to 90% of the 1531 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,470 where we're diverting up to 90% of the material. That's the recyclables, even 1532 00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:02,480 material. That's the recyclables, even 1533 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,990 material. That's the recyclables, even refuge derived fuels, organics, etc. So 1534 00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:06,000 refuge derived fuels, organics, etc. So 1535 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,750 refuge derived fuels, organics, etc. So there are processes to get all the way 1536 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:07,760 there are processes to get all the way 1537 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,269 there are processes to get all the way up to 90% diversion. And in a future we 1538 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:11,279 up to 90% diversion. And in a future we 1539 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,190 up to 90% diversion. And in a future we might see that landfills they'll likely 1540 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:13,200 might see that landfills they'll likely 1541 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,110 might see that landfills they'll likely still exist but at a much smaller scale 1542 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:15,120 still exist but at a much smaller scale 1543 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,470 still exist but at a much smaller scale and for a smaller fraction. 1544 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:16,480 and for a smaller fraction. 1545 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,549 and for a smaller fraction. >> Sure. Sure. But but then additionally I 1546 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:18,559 >> Sure. Sure. But but then additionally I 1547 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,750 >> Sure. Sure. But but then additionally I mean ideally in right in addition to no 1548 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:21,760 mean ideally in right in addition to no 1549 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,590 mean ideally in right in addition to no longer bringing organic waste to to 1550 00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:23,600 longer bringing organic waste to to 1551 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,149 longer bringing organic waste to to landfills we also can at some point 1552 00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:26,159 landfills we also can at some point 1553 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,870 landfills we also can at some point trans transport all of the material in 1554 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:28,880 trans transport all of the material in 1555 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,430 trans transport all of the material in landfills to to uh facilities like 1556 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:31,440 landfills to to uh facilities like 1557 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,110 landfills to to uh facilities like yours. Is that in the works as well or 1558 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:35,120 yours. Is that in the works as well or 1559 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,190 yours. Is that in the works as well or >> Yeah. So that the concept of mining 1560 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:37,200 >> Yeah. So that the concept of mining 1561 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,710 >> Yeah. So that the concept of mining landfills is happening and we we have 1562 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:40,720 landfills is happening and we we have 1563 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,230 landfills is happening and we we have seen it in developing nations where 1564 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:42,240 seen it in developing nations where 1565 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,470 seen it in developing nations where they're extracting the material from 1566 00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:44,480 they're extracting the material from 1567 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,870 they're extracting the material from landfills and bringing them to to 1568 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:46,880 landfills and bringing them to to 1569 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,950 landfills and bringing them to to pre-treatment facilities and usually 1570 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:48,960 pre-treatment facilities and usually 1571 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,710 pre-treatment facilities and usually they're separating plastics and metals 1572 00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:50,720 they're separating plastics and metals 1573 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,350 they're separating plastics and metals and more of the the precious items. 1574 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:53,360 and more of the the precious items. 1575 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,029 and more of the the precious items. >> But as a result, you usually end up with 1576 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:55,039 >> But as a result, you usually end up with 1577 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,789 >> But as a result, you usually end up with an organic fraction that could be 1578 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:56,799 an organic fraction that could be 1579 00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,830 an organic fraction that could be digested or at least composted to form 1580 00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:59,840 digested or at least composted to form 1581 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,029 digested or at least composted to form say a a smaller amount of material. 1582 00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:03,039 say a a smaller amount of material. 1583 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,510 say a a smaller amount of material. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just it really is 1584 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:05,520 >> Yeah. I mean, it's just it really is 1585 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,789 >> Yeah. I mean, it's just it really is incredible. I mean, you take an 1586 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:06,799 incredible. I mean, you take an 1587 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,950 incredible. I mean, you take an underdeveloped nation that has that has 1588 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:08,960 underdeveloped nation that has that has 1589 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,590 underdeveloped nation that has that has a waste problem and can't produce enough 1590 00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:11,600 a waste problem and can't produce enough 1591 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,669 a waste problem and can't produce enough energy and it's like, you guys, here you 1592 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:13,679 energy and it's like, you guys, here you 1593 00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:16,549 energy and it's like, you guys, here you go. Two birds, one stone. We just need 1594 00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:16,559 go. Two birds, one stone. We just need 1595 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,549 go. Two birds, one stone. We just need some infrastructure. We need an infusion 1596 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:18,559 some infrastructure. We need an infusion 1597 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,630 some infrastructure. We need an infusion of uh, you know, an investment to get 1598 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:20,640 of uh, you know, an investment to get 1599 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,350 of uh, you know, an investment to get the infrastructure going for all these 1600 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:23,360 the infrastructure going for all these 1601 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,029 the infrastructure going for all these nations. But, um, to to me it's 1602 00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:25,039 nations. But, um, to to me it's 1603 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,350 nations. But, um, to to me it's inspiring. I mean, it anything that kind 1604 00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:27,360 inspiring. I mean, it anything that kind 1605 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,510 inspiring. I mean, it anything that kind of points to a more utopian future, you 1606 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:31,520 of points to a more utopian future, you 1607 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,909 of points to a more utopian future, you know, at least somewhat is is something 1608 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:33,919 know, at least somewhat is is something 1609 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,909 know, at least somewhat is is something that I get very excited about and can 1610 00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:35,919 that I get very excited about and can 1611 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:38,149 that I get very excited about and can get behind. Is there anything I I I 1612 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:38,159 get behind. Is there anything I I I 1613 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:39,350 get behind. Is there anything I I I don't have any more questions, but if 1614 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:39,360 don't have any more questions, but if 1615 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,870 don't have any more questions, but if you have anything to add in terms of 1616 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:40,880 you have anything to add in terms of 1617 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,070 you have anything to add in terms of helping people how to uh get get more 1618 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:44,080 helping people how to uh get get more 1619 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,909 helping people how to uh get get more hyped about this and share, you know, 1620 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:45,919 hyped about this and share, you know, 1621 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:47,669 hyped about this and share, you know, share the news of this kind of 1622 00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:47,679 share the news of this kind of 1623 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,110 share the news of this kind of technology because I think most people 1624 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:49,120 technology because I think most people 1625 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,710 technology because I think most people probably are not aware that this is 1626 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:50,720 probably are not aware that this is 1627 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,269 probably are not aware that this is going on and um how they can kind of get 1628 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:53,279 going on and um how they can kind of get 1629 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,269 going on and um how they can kind of get involved in voice support for this kind 1630 00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:55,279 involved in voice support for this kind 1631 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,830 involved in voice support for this kind of green tech. 1632 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:57,840 of green tech. 1633 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,870 of green tech. >> Yeah, that good question. I I mean uh 1634 00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:00,880 >> Yeah, that good question. I I mean uh 1635 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,430 >> Yeah, that good question. I I mean uh one of the things day-to-day uh folks 1636 00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:03,440 one of the things day-to-day uh folks 1637 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,789 one of the things day-to-day uh folks can do is oftentimes utilities are one 1638 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:06,799 can do is oftentimes utilities are one 1639 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,630 can do is oftentimes utilities are one of the main purchasers of the renewable 1640 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:08,640 of the main purchasers of the renewable 1641 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,110 of the main purchasers of the renewable natural gas and there's programs you can 1642 00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:11,120 natural gas and there's programs you can 1643 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,149 natural gas and there's programs you can opt into which allow you to to select 1644 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:14,159 opt into which allow you to to select 1645 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:17,190 opt into which allow you to to select renewable natural gas as a portion or as 1646 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:17,200 renewable natural gas as a portion or as 1647 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,909 renewable natural gas as a portion or as your primary uh blend of natural gas 1648 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:19,919 your primary uh blend of natural gas 1649 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:21,669 your primary uh blend of natural gas that you use for your home or business 1650 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:21,679 that you use for your home or business 1651 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:22,789 that you use for your home or business etc. 1652 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:22,799 etc. 1653 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,029 etc. uh and that's a great way to to support 1654 00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:25,039 uh and that's a great way to to support 1655 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,789 uh and that's a great way to to support the industry and provide that small 1656 00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:26,799 the industry and provide that small 1657 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,110 the industry and provide that small little bit of it's not a major increase 1658 00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:29,120 little bit of it's not a major increase 1659 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,430 little bit of it's not a major increase in the overall bills but it is a major 1660 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:31,440 in the overall bills but it is a major 1661 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,510 in the overall bills but it is a major increase in the demand side for 1662 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:33,520 increase in the demand side for 1663 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,190 increase in the demand side for renewable natural gas across the 1664 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:35,200 renewable natural gas across the 1665 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,830 renewable natural gas across the industry. 1666 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:35,840 industry. 1667 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,710 industry. >> Right. Absolutely. That's amazing. Um 1668 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:38,720 >> Right. Absolutely. That's amazing. Um 1669 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,870 >> Right. Absolutely. That's amazing. Um yeah, thanks so much for talking to me. 1670 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:40,880 yeah, thanks so much for talking to me. 1671 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,630 yeah, thanks so much for talking to me. >> Yeah, thank you Dave. It was it was 1672 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:42,640 >> Yeah, thank you Dave. It was it was 1673 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,590 >> Yeah, thank you Dave. It was it was great to great to have a conversation. 1674 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:45,600 great to great to have a conversation. 1675 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,590 great to great to have a conversation. >> Pretty inspiring though and also 1676 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:47,600 >> Pretty inspiring though and also 1677 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,909 >> Pretty inspiring though and also rehabilitating in a way. We are so used 1678 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:49,919 rehabilitating in a way. We are so used 1679 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:52,310 rehabilitating in a way. We are so used to recoiling in horror from the sight of 1680 00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:52,320 to recoiling in horror from the sight of 1681 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,950 to recoiling in horror from the sight of industrial landscapes like this. Now we 1682 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:54,960 industrial landscapes like this. Now we 1683 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,269 industrial landscapes like this. Now we can juxtapose those with a similarly 1684 00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:57,279 can juxtapose those with a similarly 1685 00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,590 can juxtapose those with a similarly industrial site that holds the precise 1686 00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:59,600 industrial site that holds the precise 1687 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,909 industrial site that holds the precise opposite connotation, one of progress 1688 00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:01,919 opposite connotation, one of progress 1689 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:04,070 opposite connotation, one of progress and environmental benefit. Will this 1690 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:04,080 and environmental benefit. Will this 1691 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,149 and environmental benefit. Will this tech single-handedly save the world from 1692 00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:06,159 tech single-handedly save the world from 1693 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:08,230 tech single-handedly save the world from catastrophic climate change? Certainly 1694 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:08,240 catastrophic climate change? Certainly 1695 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,909 catastrophic climate change? Certainly not. There's a lot of other work to be 1696 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:09,919 not. There's a lot of other work to be 1697 00:32:09,919 --> 00:32:11,830 not. There's a lot of other work to be done, but one would be hardpressed to 1698 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:11,840 done, but one would be hardpressed to 1699 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,070 done, but one would be hardpressed to deny that this is an enormous step in 1700 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:14,080 deny that this is an enormous step in 1701 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,990 deny that this is an enormous step in the right direction. The only thing that 1702 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:16,000 the right direction. The only thing that 1703 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,909 the right direction. The only thing that can dampen environmentally damaging 1704 00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:17,919 can dampen environmentally damaging 1705 00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:20,470 can dampen environmentally damaging activity is carbon negative yet still 1706 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:20,480 activity is carbon negative yet still 1707 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,029 activity is carbon negative yet still profitable endeavors such as these. So 1708 00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:23,039 profitable endeavors such as these. So 1709 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,590 profitable endeavors such as these. So in this way, Eneria is undoubtedly 1710 00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:25,600 in this way, Eneria is undoubtedly 1711 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,830 in this way, Eneria is undoubtedly breaking barriers to sustainability. 1712 00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:27,840 breaking barriers to sustainability. 1713 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,559 breaking barriers to sustainability. I'll see you next time.