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Hey everyone, many of you saw my two

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Hey everyone, many of you saw my two
 

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Hey everyone, many of you saw my two
videos exposing Avi Loeb, the Harvard

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videos exposing Avi Loeb, the Harvard
 

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videos exposing Avi Loeb, the Harvard
astronomer from Israel who lies about

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astronomer from Israel who lies about
 

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astronomer from Israel who lies about
space stuff to sell dumb books. Well, he

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space stuff to sell dumb books. Well, he
 

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space stuff to sell dumb books. Well, he
saw them, too, and he's pretty mad about

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saw them, too, and he's pretty mad about
 

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saw them, too, and he's pretty mad about
them, especially since he's hoping to

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them, especially since he's hoping to
 

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them, especially since he's hoping to
gear up for round four of his grifter

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gear up for round four of his grifter
 

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gear up for round four of his grifter
playbook. Let's catch up with Avi the

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playbook. Let's catch up with Avi the
 

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playbook. Let's catch up with Avi the
fraud, shall we?

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fraud, shall we?
 

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fraud, shall we?
Once again, if you're unfamiliar with

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Once again, if you're unfamiliar with
 

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Once again, if you're unfamiliar with
Avi or generally unaware of what a

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Avi or generally unaware of what a
 

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Avi or generally unaware of what a
disgusting weasel he is, you should

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disgusting weasel he is, you should
 

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disgusting weasel he is, you should
definitely watch these two videos first.

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definitely watch these two videos first.
 

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definitely watch these two videos first.
But, if you already have and you need a

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But, if you already have and you need a
 

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But, if you already have and you need a
quick refresher, let's summarize the

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quick refresher, let's summarize the
 

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quick refresher, let's summarize the
last 10 years of grifting from Avi. This

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last 10 years of grifting from Avi. This
 

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last 10 years of grifting from Avi. This
first video goes over his first two

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first video goes over his first two
 

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first video goes over his first two
rounds of grifting. We talked about his

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rounds of grifting. We talked about his
 

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rounds of grifting. We talked about his
script of lies in 2018 regarding

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script of lies in 2018 regarding
 

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script of lies in 2018 regarding
exocomet Oumuamua, which he pretended

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exocomet Oumuamua, which he pretended
 

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exocomet Oumuamua, which he pretended
was an alien spacecraft with zero basis

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was an alien spacecraft with zero basis
 

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was an alien spacecraft with zero basis
in order to sell a shitty book. In all

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in order to sell a shitty book. In all
 

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in order to sell a shitty book. In all
of his output, he lied about Oumuamua's

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of his output, he lied about Oumuamua's
 

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of his output, he lied about Oumuamua's
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dimensions, he ignored aspects of its
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behavior, he exaggerated deviations from
 

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behavior, he exaggerated deviations from
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its expected orbit while ignoring the
 

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its expected orbit while ignoring the
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obvious explanations that his colleagues
 

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obvious explanations that his colleagues
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provided, and more. He told the public
 

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provided, and more. He told the public
that a comet was aliens because it's a

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that a comet was aliens because it's a
 

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that a comet was aliens because it's a
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fun story to make money. Then, in 2023,
 

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fun story to make money. Then, in 2023,
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he took an adventure off the coast of
 

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he took an adventure off the coast of
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Papua New Guinea to illegally recover
 

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Papua New Guinea to illegally recover
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material from the seafloor that he
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pretended was pieces of an alien
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spacecraft which had crashed into the
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Earth 9 years prior. In reality, the
 

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Earth 9 years prior. In reality, the
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object in question was just a regular
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solar system bolide, meaning a meteor.
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claimed. The spherules he recovered were
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just some bits of rock and they weren't
 

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just some bits of rock and they weren't
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from the bolide he pretended they were
 

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from the bolide he pretended they were
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from. They had been sitting down there
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for thousands of years. This can all be
 

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for thousands of years. This can all be
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easily confirmed by the ratio of iron
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isotopes and several other independent
 

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isotopes and several other independent
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threads of inquiry. He lied about all of
 

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threads of inquiry. He lied about all of
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this so he could pretend to find alien
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stuff while being filmed by a Netflix
 

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stuff while being filmed by a Netflix
crew, since Graham Hancock was getting a

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crew, since Graham Hancock was getting a
 

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crew, since Graham Hancock was getting a
little lonely as the only worthless

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little lonely as the only worthless
 

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little lonely as the only worthless
pseudoscientific fraud on the streaming

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pseudoscientific fraud on the streaming
 

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pseudoscientific fraud on the streaming
service. Then, my second video covers

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service. Then, my second video covers
 

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service. Then, my second video covers
his third and most recent round of

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his third and most recent round of
 

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his third and most recent round of
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grifting surrounding another extrasolar
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object named 3I Atlas, an exocomet that
was in the news quite a bit last summer.

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was in the news quite a bit last summer.
 

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was in the news quite a bit last summer.
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From the first moment it was discovered
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by the actual scientists who actually do
 

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by the actual scientists who actually do
this research, it was very well

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this research, it was very well
 

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this research, it was very well
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understood to be a typical comet. There
 

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understood to be a typical comet. There
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was nothing anomalous about it
whatsoever. And yet, Avi immediately

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whatsoever. And yet, Avi immediately
 

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whatsoever. And yet, Avi immediately
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began making unsubstantiated claims
 

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began making unsubstantiated claims
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about all kinds of alleged anomalies to
 

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about all kinds of alleged anomalies to
pretend that the comet was an alien

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pretend that the comet was an alien
 

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pretend that the comet was an alien
spacecraft. Lies about its mass,

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spacecraft. Lies about its mass,
 

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spacecraft. Lies about its mass,
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composition, trajectory, acceleration,
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outgassing of material, its tail,
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absolutely everything was distorted by
 

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absolutely everything was distorted by
Avi to make it seem like aliens. Nothing

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Avi to make it seem like aliens. Nothing
 

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Avi to make it seem like aliens. Nothing
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about it was even remotely un-comet-like
 

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about it was even remotely un-comet-like
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for a single second since its discovery.
 

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for a single second since its discovery.
Yet, Avi lied his ass off in countless

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Yet, Avi lied his ass off in countless
 

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Yet, Avi lied his ass off in countless
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blog posts and unpublished
 

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blog posts and unpublished
non-peer-reviewed preprints to get more

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non-peer-reviewed preprints to get more
 

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non-peer-reviewed preprints to get more
famous and sell yet another shitty book.

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famous and sell yet another shitty book.
 

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famous and sell yet another shitty book.
If you're someone who fell for Avi's

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If you're someone who fell for Avi's
fabricated anomalies, make sure to watch

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fabricated anomalies, make sure to watch
 

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fabricated anomalies, make sure to watch
this second video to learn about what a

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this second video to learn about what a
 

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this second video to learn about what a
deceptive loser he truly is as I take

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deceptive loser he truly is as I take
 

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deceptive loser he truly is as I take
every single one of his [\h__\h] claims

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every single one of his [\h__\h] claims
 

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every single one of his [\h__\h] claims
and compare them in extreme detail to

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and compare them in extreme detail to
 

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and compare them in extreme detail to
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what the primary literature actually
 

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what the primary literature actually
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says, courtesy of people who actually
 

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says, courtesy of people who actually
study comets for a living. And anyone

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study comets for a living. And anyone
 

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study comets for a living. And anyone
who references Avi's humility, that he

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who references Avi's humility, that he
 

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who references Avi's humility, that he
only points at possibilities and never

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only points at possibilities and never
 

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only points at possibilities and never
labels anything with certainty, you got

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labels anything with certainty, you got
 

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labels anything with certainty, you got
scammed. Claims like 60% chance of being

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scammed. Claims like 60% chance of being
 

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scammed. Claims like 60% chance of being
aliens should be essentially zero if he

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aliens should be essentially zero if he
 

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aliens should be essentially zero if he
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was intellectually honest since there
 

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was intellectually honest since there
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was no evidence whatsoever that pointed
 

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was no evidence whatsoever that pointed
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to anything other than it being an exo
 

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to anything other than it being an exo
comet. So, in summary, these two videos

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comet. So, in summary, these two videos
 

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comet. So, in summary, these two videos
outline in painstaking detail three

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outline in painstaking detail three
 

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outline in painstaking detail three
rounds of the Avi Loeb grifter playbook.

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rounds of the Avi Loeb grifter playbook.
 

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rounds of the Avi Loeb grifter playbook.
Three rounds of stepping outside of his

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Three rounds of stepping outside of his
 

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Three rounds of stepping outside of his
expertise, distorting data, making

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expertise, distorting data, making
 

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expertise, distorting data, making
baseless sensationalist claims, avoiding

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baseless sensationalist claims, avoiding
 

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baseless sensationalist claims, avoiding
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legitimate avenues of publication and
 

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legitimate avenues of publication and
peer review, lying directly to the press

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peer review, lying directly to the press
 

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peer review, lying directly to the press
to gain notoriety and sell books, and

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to gain notoriety and sell books, and
 

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to gain notoriety and sell books, and
then whining about how any and all

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then whining about how any and all
 

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then whining about how any and all
pushback from experts in the field can

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pushback from experts in the field can
 

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pushback from experts in the field can
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only be happening because they are
 

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only be happening because they are
jealous, closed-minded, gatekeeping,

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jealous, closed-minded, gatekeeping,
 

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jealous, closed-minded, gatekeeping,
meanie pants do-do heads, not because

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meanie pants do-do heads, not because
 

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meanie pants do-do heads, not because
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they are accurately prosecuting his
 

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they are accurately prosecuting his
corruption and fraudulent. As I've said

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corruption and fraudulent. As I've said
 

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corruption and fraudulent. As I've said
before, this is the playbook of a

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before, this is the playbook of a
 

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before, this is the playbook of a
charlatan and media [\h__\h] not a

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charlatan and media [\h__\h] not a
 

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charlatan and media [\h__\h] not a
scientist. And indeed, when he's called

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scientist. And indeed, when he's called
 

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scientist. And indeed, when he's called
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academics and science communicators
 

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academics and science communicators
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alike, he throws the most pathetic
 

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alike, he throws the most pathetic
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toddler tantrums imaginable. He will
 

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toddler tantrums imaginable. He will
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dismiss, discount, minimize, misquote,
 

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dismiss, discount, minimize, misquote,
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and mischaracterize every single
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legitimate scholar who debunks his
 

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legitimate scholar who debunks his
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baseless claims, always playing the
 

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baseless claims, always playing the
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victim of ivory tower academia, which he
 

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victim of ivory tower academia, which he
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ironically epitomizes. Sometimes he has
 

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ironically epitomizes. Sometimes he has
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public outbursts like he did with Jill
 

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public outbursts like he did with Jill
Tarter, former director of SETI.

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Tarter, former director of SETI.
 

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Tarter, former director of SETI.
>> Well, some of us did it.

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>> Well, some of us did it.
 

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>> Well, some of us did it.
>> No, no, let me finish. How how dare

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>> No, no, let me finish. How how dare
 

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>> No, no, let me finish. How how dare
people make statements about scientists

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people make statements about scientists
 

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people make statements about scientists
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that explore these possibilities within
 

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that explore these possibilities within
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the scientific method? That's the acidic
 

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the scientific method? That's the acidic
culture that I'm talking about. There is

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culture that I'm talking about. There is
 

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culture that I'm talking about. There is
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an acidic culture that suppresses
 

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an acidic culture that suppresses
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innovation in the current culture of
 

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innovation in the current culture of
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science. And the best example is SETI.
 

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science. And the best example is SETI.
>> This one in particular was so egregious

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>> This one in particular was so egregious
 

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>> This one in particular was so egregious
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that he had to offer a half-assed formal
 

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that he had to offer a half-assed formal
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apology. And then there are his
 

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apology. And then there are his
misadventures trying to manipulate

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misadventures trying to manipulate
 

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misadventures trying to manipulate
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hundreds of millions of dollars out of
 

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hundreds of millions of dollars out of
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the federal government for work that
 

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the federal government for work that
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other people actually already do instead
 

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other people actually already do instead
of him. The blatant manipulation,

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of him. The blatant manipulation,
 

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of him. The blatant manipulation,
opportunism, and perpetual victim

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opportunism, and perpetual victim
 

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opportunism, and perpetual victim
complex is par for the course when

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complex is par for the course when
 

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complex is par for the course when
dealing with disgusting Zionist frauds

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dealing with disgusting Zionist frauds
 

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dealing with disgusting Zionist frauds
like him.

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like him.
 

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like him.
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Anyway, with this context covered, let's
 

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Anyway, with this context covered, let's
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pivot to the aftermath of my two videos,
 

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pivot to the aftermath of my two videos,
which came pretty rapid-fire last

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which came pretty rapid-fire last
 

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which came pretty rapid-fire last
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summer. As I said, Avi is quite aware of
 

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summer. As I said, Avi is quite aware of
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them given their view counts and how
 

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them given their view counts and how
they undeniably shifted the way the

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they undeniably shifted the way the
 

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they undeniably shifted the way the
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public perceives him. Thousands of
 

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public perceives him. Thousands of
people learned what a disgusting fraud

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people learned what a disgusting fraud
 

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people learned what a disgusting fraud
he is through my content, which as you

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he is through my content, which as you
 

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he is through my content, which as you
can imagine brings me great joy. Want to

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can imagine brings me great joy. Want to
 

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can imagine brings me great joy. Want to
hear what Avi has to say about me?

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hear what Avi has to say about me?
 

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hear what Avi has to say about me?
>> You know, the other thing that I find

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>> You know, the other thing that I find
 

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>> You know, the other thing that I find
from the other side of the spectrum of

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from the other side of the spectrum of
 

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from the other side of the spectrum of
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people, you know,
 

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people, you know,
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there are people on both extremes that
 

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there are people on both extremes that
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are completely unreasonable, and I get
 

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are completely unreasonable, and I get
attacked by both of them. So, another

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attacked by both of them. So, another
 

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attacked by both of them. So, another
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one claims that
 

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one claims that
my analysis is fraud a fraud.

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my analysis is fraud a fraud.
 

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my analysis is fraud a fraud.
And the guy who claims that

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And the guy who claims that
 

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And the guy who claims that
defines himself as prof a professor. He

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defines himself as prof a professor. He
 

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defines himself as prof a professor. He
is calling himself on his YouTube

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is calling himself on his YouTube
 

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is calling himself on his YouTube
channel Professor Dave.

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channel Professor Dave.
 

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channel Professor Dave.
Now, this guy doesn't even have a PhD.

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Now, this guy doesn't even have a PhD.
 

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Now, this guy doesn't even have a PhD.
Not to speak about the fact that he

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Not to speak about the fact that he
 

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Not to speak about the fact that he
never held a professorship in his life.

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never held a professorship in his life.
 

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never held a professorship in his life.
And then he puts a viral YouTube video

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And then he puts a viral YouTube video
 

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And then he puts a viral YouTube video
to make money in which he makes

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to make money in which he makes
 

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to make money in which he makes
anti-Semitic claims and distortions of

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anti-Semitic claims and distortions of
 

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anti-Semitic claims and distortions of
the way I do my science

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the way I do my science
 

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the way I do my science
just to be sufficiently provocative to

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just to be sufficiently provocative to
 

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just to be sufficiently provocative to
attract attention.

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attract attention.
 

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attract attention.
>> Some pretty bold accusations there, Avi.

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>> Some pretty bold accusations there, Avi.
 

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>> Some pretty bold accusations there, Avi.
Which distortions are you referring to

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Which distortions are you referring to
 

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Which distortions are you referring to
exactly? I can't help but notice that

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exactly? I can't help but notice that
 

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exactly? I can't help but notice that
you didn't actually say anything. Did

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you didn't actually say anything. Did
 

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you didn't actually say anything. Did
you want to tell me where I'm wrong,

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you want to tell me where I'm wrong,
 

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you want to tell me where I'm wrong,
literally anywhere in either video? No,

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literally anywhere in either video? No,
 

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literally anywhere in either video? No,
that seems pretty convenient. Then,

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that seems pretty convenient. Then,
 

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that seems pretty convenient. Then,
quite predictably, the whining about the

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quite predictably, the whining about the
 

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quite predictably, the whining about the
name of my YouTube channel. It doesn't

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name of my YouTube channel. It doesn't
 

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name of my YouTube channel. It doesn't
matter that I did in fact teach at a

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matter that I did in fact teach at a
 

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matter that I did in fact teach at a
university, but referencing my

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university, but referencing my
 

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university, but referencing my
credentials isn't really an argument,

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credentials isn't really an argument,
 

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credentials isn't really an argument,
either. Now, is it, Avi? This pathetic

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either. Now, is it, Avi? This pathetic
 

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either. Now, is it, Avi? This pathetic
cop out just makes it quite a bit more

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cop out just makes it quite a bit more
 

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cop out just makes it quite a bit more
embarrassing for you since a journalist

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embarrassing for you since a journalist
 

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embarrassing for you since a journalist
like myself was able to reference a big

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like myself was able to reference a big
 

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like myself was able to reference a big
stack of primary literature from

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stack of primary literature from
 

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stack of primary literature from
researchers who are actual experts on

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researchers who are actual experts on
 

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researchers who are actual experts on
these phenomena and use them to prove

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these phenomena and use them to prove
 

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these phenomena and use them to prove
conclusively that you're a lying fraud.

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conclusively that you're a lying fraud.
 

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conclusively that you're a lying fraud.
And I even collaborated with some of

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And I even collaborated with some of
 

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And I even collaborated with some of
those experts to make my content,

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those experts to make my content,
 

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those experts to make my content,
including several who are much more

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including several who are much more
 

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including several who are much more
qualified than you to speak on these

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qualified than you to speak on these
 

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qualified than you to speak on these
topics since they've been publishing

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topics since they've been publishing
 

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topics since they've been publishing
about them in real journals for decades.

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about them in real journals for decades.
 

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about them in real journals for decades.
So, you really have to make up your mind

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So, you really have to make up your mind
 

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So, you really have to make up your mind
here. If I were an esteemed professor of

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here. If I were an esteemed professor of
 

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here. If I were an esteemed professor of
astronomy, you'd be flipping out all the

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astronomy, you'd be flipping out all the
 

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astronomy, you'd be flipping out all the
same, just with a different script. So,

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same, just with a different script. So,
 

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same, just with a different script. So,
are credentials and experience good or

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are credentials and experience good or
 

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are credentials and experience good or
bad? Is it the overqualified ivory tower

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bad? Is it the overqualified ivory tower
 

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bad? Is it the overqualified ivory tower
elites who are coming to get you, or is

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elites who are coming to get you, or is
 

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elites who are coming to get you, or is
it the unqualified YouTubers? Oh, I

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it the unqualified YouTubers? Oh, I
 

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it the unqualified YouTubers? Oh, I
forgot. Literally everyone in the world

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forgot. Literally everyone in the world
 

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forgot. Literally everyone in the world
is out to get you, right, Avi? That darn

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is out to get you, right, Avi? That darn
 

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is out to get you, right, Avi? That darn
anti-Semitism strikes again. This is,

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anti-Semitism strikes again. This is,
 

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anti-Semitism strikes again. This is,
quite predictably, the most pathetic and

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quite predictably, the most pathetic and
 

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quite predictably, the most pathetic and
indefensible accusation you made about

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indefensible accusation you made about
 

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indefensible accusation you made about
me, though it's one I'm quite used to,

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me, though it's one I'm quite used to,
 

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me, though it's one I'm quite used to,
given your ideological affiliations and

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given your ideological affiliations and
 

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given your ideological affiliations and
my track record of [\h__\h] all over

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my track record of [\h__\h] all over
 

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my track record of [\h__\h] all over
genocide-supporting Zionist [\h__\h]

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genocide-supporting Zionist [\h__\h]
 

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genocide-supporting Zionist [\h__\h]
Are you really implying that anyone who

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Are you really implying that anyone who
 

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Are you really implying that anyone who
is Jewish can lie about science as much

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is Jewish can lie about science as much
 

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is Jewish can lie about science as much
as they want, and if anyone exposes

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as they want, and if anyone exposes
 

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as they want, and if anyone exposes
those lies, they're automatically an

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those lies, they're automatically an
 

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those lies, they're automatically an
anti-Semite? So, exposing lies qualifies

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anti-Semite? So, exposing lies qualifies
 

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anti-Semite? So, exposing lies qualifies
as anti-Semitism now? Not even you can

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as anti-Semitism now? Not even you can
 

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as anti-Semitism now? Not even you can
keep a straight face on that one, Avi.

456
00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:26,560
keep a straight face on that one, Avi.
 

457
00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,310
keep a straight face on that one, Avi.
Furthermore, what's funniest about this

458
00:08:28,310 --> 00:08:28,320
Furthermore, what's funniest about this
 

459
00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,230
Furthermore, what's funniest about this
tired angle is that you and all your

460
00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:30,240
tired angle is that you and all your
 

461
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,909
tired angle is that you and all your
piece-of-shit Zionist cronies are not

462
00:08:32,909 --> 00:08:32,919
piece-of-shit Zionist cronies are not
 

463
00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,830
piece-of-shit Zionist cronies are not
Semites. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews

464
00:08:35,830 --> 00:08:35,840
Semites. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews
 

465
00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,709
Semites. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews
like you and Bibi and all the rest are

466
00:08:38,709 --> 00:08:38,719
like you and Bibi and all the rest are
 

467
00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:41,469
like you and Bibi and all the rest are
European. You literally are not a

468
00:08:41,469 --> 00:08:41,479
European. You literally are not a
 

469
00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:44,670
European. You literally are not a
Semite, while Palestinians are Semites.

470
00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:44,680
Semite, while Palestinians are Semites.
 

471
00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:47,870
Semite, while Palestinians are Semites.
Therefore, Zionists are, in reality,

472
00:08:47,870 --> 00:08:47,880
Therefore, Zionists are, in reality,
 

473
00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,350
Therefore, Zionists are, in reality,
anti-Semitic. Uh-oh, looks like you're

474
00:08:50,350 --> 00:08:50,360
anti-Semitic. Uh-oh, looks like you're
 

475
00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,670
anti-Semitic. Uh-oh, looks like you're
going to have to be chased off the

476
00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:51,680
going to have to be chased off the
 

477
00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,310
going to have to be chased off the
Harvard campus with torches and

478
00:08:53,310 --> 00:08:53,320
Harvard campus with torches and
 

479
00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,270
Harvard campus with torches and
pitchforks, Avi. Deport the anti-Semite.

480
00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:56,280
pitchforks, Avi. Deport the anti-Semite.
 

481
00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,470
pitchforks, Avi. Deport the anti-Semite.
The campaign to stop anti-Semitism has

482
00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:58,480
The campaign to stop anti-Semitism has
 

483
00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,190
The campaign to stop anti-Semitism has
spoken. Anything else?

484
00:09:00,190 --> 00:09:00,200
spoken. Anything else?
 

485
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,829
spoken. Anything else?
>> And my question is who is the fraud?

486
00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:03,839
>> And my question is who is the fraud?
 

487
00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:05,270
>> And my question is who is the fraud?
The person who calls himself a

488
00:09:05,270 --> 00:09:05,280
The person who calls himself a
 

489
00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,710
The person who calls himself a
professor, who never held an academic

490
00:09:07,710 --> 00:09:07,720
professor, who never held an academic
 

491
00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,710
professor, who never held an academic
position of that stature,

492
00:09:09,710 --> 00:09:09,720
position of that stature,
 

493
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,110
position of that stature,
or the person who he is attacking, who

494
00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:13,120
or the person who he is attacking, who
 

495
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,470
or the person who he is attacking, who
is a real professor doing real

496
00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:15,480
is a real professor doing real
 

497
00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,430
is a real professor doing real
scientific work, published more than a

498
00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:17,440
scientific work, published more than a
 

499
00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,590
scientific work, published more than a
thousand scientific paper. I just

500
00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:19,600
thousand scientific paper. I just
 

501
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,390
thousand scientific paper. I just
published this week two scientific

502
00:09:21,390 --> 00:09:21,400
published this week two scientific
 

503
00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,310
published this week two scientific
papers.

504
00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:22,320
papers.
 

505
00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,990
papers.
>> You, Avi. You are the fraud. You are the

506
00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:25,000
>> You, Avi. You are the fraud. You are the
 

507
00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,110
>> You, Avi. You are the fraud. You are the
one constantly lying about science to

508
00:09:27,110 --> 00:09:27,120
one constantly lying about science to
 

509
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,630
one constantly lying about science to
make money, so you are the fraud. Your

510
00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:29,640
make money, so you are the fraud. Your
 

511
00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,310
make money, so you are the fraud. Your
prior publication history is irrelevant.

512
00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:32,320
prior publication history is irrelevant.
 

513
00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,790
prior publication history is irrelevant.
When you lie about science, you are not

514
00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:34,800
When you lie about science, you are not
 

515
00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,910
When you lie about science, you are not
publishing papers. You're writing blog

516
00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:36,920
publishing papers. You're writing blog
 

517
00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,510
publishing papers. You're writing blog
posts, you're sending non-peer-reviewed

518
00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:39,520
posts, you're sending non-peer-reviewed
 

519
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,470
posts, you're sending non-peer-reviewed
unpublished preprints directly to the

520
00:09:41,470 --> 00:09:41,480
unpublished preprints directly to the
 

521
00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,470
unpublished preprints directly to the
media, you're writing shitty books full

522
00:09:43,470 --> 00:09:43,480
media, you're writing shitty books full
 

523
00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,270
media, you're writing shitty books full
of lies, and you're whining like a

524
00:09:45,270 --> 00:09:45,280
of lies, and you're whining like a
 

525
00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,630
of lies, and you're whining like a
little [\h__\h] on podcasts. That's your

526
00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:47,640
little [\h__\h] on podcasts. That's your
 

527
00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,710
little [\h__\h] on podcasts. That's your
scientific output when it comes to your

528
00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:49,720
scientific output when it comes to your
 

529
00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,830
scientific output when it comes to your
alien [\h__\h] So, you don't get to

530
00:09:51,830 --> 00:09:51,840
alien [\h__\h] So, you don't get to
 

531
00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,990
alien [\h__\h] So, you don't get to
rest on your credentials here. I wrote a

532
00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:54,000
rest on your credentials here. I wrote a
 

533
00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,550
rest on your credentials here. I wrote a
book and I talk on podcasts, too. So,

534
00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:56,560
book and I talk on podcasts, too. So,
 

535
00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:58,350
book and I talk on podcasts, too. So,
you and I are on the same level when it

536
00:09:58,350 --> 00:09:58,360
you and I are on the same level when it
 

537
00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,950
you and I are on the same level when it
comes to this topic. Our main difference

538
00:10:00,950 --> 00:10:00,960
comes to this topic. Our main difference
 

539
00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,950
comes to this topic. Our main difference
is that you're a lying piece of [\h__\h] who

540
00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:02,960
is that you're a lying piece of [\h__\h] who
 

541
00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,070
is that you're a lying piece of [\h__\h] who
lies about science, and I'm a science

542
00:10:05,070 --> 00:10:05,080
lies about science, and I'm a science
 

543
00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,430
lies about science, and I'm a science
communicator who exposes you. Our other

544
00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:07,440
communicator who exposes you. Our other
 

545
00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,910
communicator who exposes you. Our other
difference is that this dog [\h__\h] podcast

546
00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:09,920
difference is that this dog [\h__\h] podcast
 

547
00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,470
difference is that this dog [\h__\h] podcast
episode got 33,000 views in a week. This

548
00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:13,480
episode got 33,000 views in a week. This
 

549
00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,630
episode got 33,000 views in a week. This
video you're angrily watching right now

550
00:10:15,630 --> 00:10:15,640
video you're angrily watching right now
 

551
00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,630
video you're angrily watching right now
will get more than that in 2 hours.

552
00:10:17,630 --> 00:10:17,640
will get more than that in 2 hours.
 

553
00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,270
will get more than that in 2 hours.
Whoops.

554
00:10:18,270 --> 00:10:18,280
Whoops.
 

555
00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,710
Whoops.
>> On the subjects we discussed to this

556
00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:20,720
>> On the subjects we discussed to this
 

557
00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,710
>> On the subjects we discussed to this
week,

558
00:10:21,710 --> 00:10:21,720
week,
 

559
00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,590
week,
this guy didn't publish anything for

560
00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:23,600
this guy didn't publish anything for
 

561
00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,310
this guy didn't publish anything for
decades,

562
00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:25,320
decades,
 

563
00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,390
decades,
and he calls himself a professor, and he

564
00:10:27,390 --> 00:10:27,400
and he calls himself a professor, and he
 

565
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,390
and he calls himself a professor, and he
claims that I'm fraud. Like, where are

566
00:10:30,390 --> 00:10:30,400
claims that I'm fraud. Like, where are
 

567
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,727
claims that I'm fraud. Like, where are
we?

568
00:10:32,727 --> 00:10:32,737
we?
 

569
00:10:32,737 --> 00:10:33,630
we?
>> [panting]

570
00:10:33,630 --> 00:10:33,640
>> [panting]
 

571
00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,910
>> [panting]
>> Where are we?

572
00:10:34,910 --> 00:10:34,920
>> Where are we?
 

573
00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,430
>> Where are we?
>> We're in the beginning of the end of

574
00:10:36,430 --> 00:10:36,440
>> We're in the beginning of the end of
 

575
00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,510
>> We're in the beginning of the end of
your grifting career, Avi, and this

576
00:10:38,510 --> 00:10:38,520
your grifting career, Avi, and this
 

577
00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,070
your grifting career, Avi, and this
rehearsed exasperated panting is not

578
00:10:41,070 --> 00:10:41,080
rehearsed exasperated panting is not
 

579
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,150
rehearsed exasperated panting is not
very convincing. Maybe you can get some

580
00:10:43,150 --> 00:10:43,160
very convincing. Maybe you can get some
 

581
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,870
very convincing. Maybe you can get some
acting lessons from Gal Gadot.

582
00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:44,880
acting lessons from Gal Gadot.
 

583
00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,710
acting lessons from Gal Gadot.
>> I need you to give me [music] the stone,

584
00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:46,720
>> I need you to give me [music] the stone,
 

585
00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,790
>> I need you to give me [music] the stone,
and enough champagne

586
00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:48,800
and enough champagne
 

587
00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,870
and enough champagne
to fill the Nile.

588
00:10:49,870 --> 00:10:49,880
to fill the Nile.
 

589
00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,950
to fill the Nile.
>> And then, you know, these people should

590
00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:51,960
>> And then, you know, these people should
 

591
00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,790
>> And then, you know, these people should
be completely

592
00:10:53,790 --> 00:10:53,800
be completely
 

593
00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,550
be completely
sidelined. However, with social media,

594
00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:56,560
sidelined. However, with social media,
 

595
00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:58,310
sidelined. However, with social media,
they get attention

596
00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:58,320
they get attention
 

597
00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,990
they get attention
for no good reason, just because they're

598
00:10:59,990 --> 00:11:00,000
for no good reason, just because they're
 

599
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,990
for no good reason, just because they're
saying something controversial.

600
00:11:01,990 --> 00:11:02,000
saying something controversial.
 

601
00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,829
saying something controversial.
>> You're describing yourself, dumbass. You

602
00:11:04,829 --> 00:11:04,839
>> You're describing yourself, dumbass. You
 

603
00:11:04,839 --> 00:11:07,070
>> You're describing yourself, dumbass. You
got famous by spewing tantalizing

604
00:11:07,070 --> 00:11:07,080
got famous by spewing tantalizing
 

605
00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,350
got famous by spewing tantalizing
[\h__\h] on social media and in shitty

606
00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:09,360
[\h__\h] on social media and in shitty
 

607
00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,870
[\h__\h] on social media and in shitty
books. You're a joke, and this outburst

608
00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:11,880
books. You're a joke, and this outburst
 

609
00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,030
books. You're a joke, and this outburst
is a reflection of your desperation in

610
00:11:14,030 --> 00:11:14,040
is a reflection of your desperation in
 

611
00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,910
is a reflection of your desperation in
coming to terms with everyone around you

612
00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:15,920
coming to terms with everyone around you
 

613
00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,390
coming to terms with everyone around you
finally realizing that.

614
00:11:17,390 --> 00:11:17,400
finally realizing that.
 

615
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,350
finally realizing that.
>> So, Avi Loeb is asking who produced

616
00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:21,360
>> So, Avi Loeb is asking who produced
 

617
00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,470
>> So, Avi Loeb is asking who produced
'Oumuamua. Is that a reason for Avi Loeb

618
00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:24,480
'Oumuamua. Is that a reason for Avi Loeb
 

619
00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,630
'Oumuamua. Is that a reason for Avi Loeb
to be ridiculed by a guy that claims to

620
00:11:27,630 --> 00:11:27,640
to be ridiculed by a guy that claims to
 

621
00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:33,670
to be ridiculed by a guy that claims to
be Professor Dave?

622
00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:33,680

 

623
00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,910

>> The panic in that pause, in his eyes, in

624
00:11:36,910 --> 00:11:36,920
>> The panic in that pause, in his eyes, in
 

625
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,510
>> The panic in that pause, in his eyes, in
that forced creepy smile, it's just the

626
00:11:39,510 --> 00:11:39,520
that forced creepy smile, it's just the
 

627
00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,030
that forced creepy smile, it's just the
most glorious cocktail imaginable. He

628
00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:42,040
most glorious cocktail imaginable. He
 

629
00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,070
most glorious cocktail imaginable. He
was so eager to perform this damage

630
00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:44,080
was so eager to perform this damage
 

631
00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,710
was so eager to perform this damage
control, and he fumbled it so hard. You

632
00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:46,720
control, and he fumbled it so hard. You
 

633
00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,830
control, and he fumbled it so hard. You
guys, it's no secret that I enjoy what I

634
00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:48,840
guys, it's no secret that I enjoy what I
 

635
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,150
guys, it's no secret that I enjoy what I
do. It's very satisfying when students

636
00:11:51,150 --> 00:11:51,160
do. It's very satisfying when students
 

637
00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,630
do. It's very satisfying when students
email me to tell me that I helped them

638
00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:52,640
email me to tell me that I helped them
 

639
00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,630
email me to tell me that I helped them
pass their classes and get their degree.

640
00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:54,640
pass their classes and get their degree.
 

641
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,710
pass their classes and get their degree.
It's also satisfying when people email

642
00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:56,720
It's also satisfying when people email
 

643
00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,870
It's also satisfying when people email
me to tell me that I helped them

644
00:11:57,870 --> 00:11:57,880
me to tell me that I helped them
 

645
00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,030
me to tell me that I helped them
deprogram from the alt-right anti-woke

646
00:12:00,030 --> 00:12:00,040
deprogram from the alt-right anti-woke
 

647
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,310
deprogram from the alt-right anti-woke
media pipeline. But there is nothing in

648
00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:02,320
media pipeline. But there is nothing in
 

649
00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,990
media pipeline. But there is nothing in
this world as satisfying as listening to

650
00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:05,000
this world as satisfying as listening to
 

651
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,710
this world as satisfying as listening to
one of the piece of [\h__\h] frauds I expose

652
00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:07,720
one of the piece of [\h__\h] frauds I expose
 

653
00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,590
one of the piece of [\h__\h] frauds I expose
whine like a worthless little [\h__\h]

654
00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:09,600
whine like a worthless little [\h__\h]
 

655
00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,150
whine like a worthless little [\h__\h]
about how mean I am. It means I am

656
00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:12,160
about how mean I am. It means I am
 

657
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,350
about how mean I am. It means I am
winning. I am hurting them. I am

658
00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:14,360
winning. I am hurting them. I am
 

659
00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,710
winning. I am hurting them. I am
measurably diminishing their credibility

660
00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:16,720
measurably diminishing their credibility
 

661
00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,310
measurably diminishing their credibility
and influence. Every single day people

662
00:12:19,310 --> 00:12:19,320
and influence. Every single day people
 

663
00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,710
and influence. Every single day people
watch my videos on Avi, conclude that

664
00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:21,720
watch my videos on Avi, conclude that
 

665
00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,390
watch my videos on Avi, conclude that
he's a pile of human garbage, inform

666
00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:24,400
he's a pile of human garbage, inform
 

667
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,350
he's a pile of human garbage, inform
their friends of this fact, and he has

668
00:12:26,350 --> 00:12:26,360
their friends of this fact, and he has
 

669
00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,510
their friends of this fact, and he has
to deal with the blowback. He has to

670
00:12:28,510 --> 00:12:28,520
to deal with the blowback. He has to
 

671
00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,630
to deal with the blowback. He has to
deal with people online talking about

672
00:12:30,630 --> 00:12:30,640
deal with people online talking about
 

673
00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,590
deal with people online talking about
what a fraud he is, and you know his

674
00:12:32,590 --> 00:12:32,600
what a fraud he is, and you know his
 

675
00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,630
what a fraud he is, and you know his
crybaby snowflake ass checks daily. He

676
00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:35,640
crybaby snowflake ass checks daily. He
 

677
00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,590
crybaby snowflake ass checks daily. He
has to deal with people in his circle

678
00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:37,600
has to deal with people in his circle
 

679
00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,070
has to deal with people in his circle
bringing up my videos asking him for a

680
00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:40,080
bringing up my videos asking him for a
 

681
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,350
bringing up my videos asking him for a
response, and all he can do is fill up

682
00:12:42,350 --> 00:12:42,360
response, and all he can do is fill up
 

683
00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,550
response, and all he can do is fill up
his adult diaper with feces and shout

684
00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:44,560
his adult diaper with feces and shout
 

685
00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,310
his adult diaper with feces and shout
anti-semitism. Hey Avi, I'm not sure if

686
00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:47,320
anti-semitism. Hey Avi, I'm not sure if
 

687
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,310
anti-semitism. Hey Avi, I'm not sure if
you noticed, but the whole world

688
00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:49,320
you noticed, but the whole world
 

689
00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,270
you noticed, but the whole world
despises your ideology. The world knows

690
00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:52,280
despises your ideology. The world knows
 

691
00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,150
despises your ideology. The world knows
your gaslighting and your Hazbara

692
00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:54,160
your gaslighting and your Hazbara
 

693
00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,150
your gaslighting and your Hazbara
tactics. Shouting anti-semitism at

694
00:12:57,150 --> 00:12:57,160
tactics. Shouting anti-semitism at
 

695
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,030
tactics. Shouting anti-semitism at
everyone that hurts your feelings is

696
00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:59,040
everyone that hurts your feelings is
 

697
00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,630
everyone that hurts your feelings is
just going to hasten your demise

698
00:13:00,630 --> 00:13:00,640
just going to hasten your demise
 

699
00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,350
just going to hasten your demise
tenfold. So keep it up, you worthless

700
00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:03,360
tenfold. So keep it up, you worthless
 

701
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,710
tenfold. So keep it up, you worthless
Zionist pile of filth.

702
00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:05,720
Zionist pile of filth.
 

703
00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,990
Zionist pile of filth.
Moving on, Avi started his own YouTube

704
00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:08,000
Moving on, Avi started his own YouTube
 

705
00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,350
Moving on, Avi started his own YouTube
channel in January of this year. After

706
00:13:10,350 --> 00:13:10,360
channel in January of this year. After
 

707
00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,110
channel in January of this year. After
all, it's a great platform for spreading

708
00:13:12,110 --> 00:13:12,120
all, it's a great platform for spreading
 

709
00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,790
all, it's a great platform for spreading
pseudoscience, so why should he be

710
00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:13,800
pseudoscience, so why should he be
 

711
00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,870
pseudoscience, so why should he be
missing out? It's so trivial to just

712
00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:15,880
missing out? It's so trivial to just
 

713
00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,430
missing out? It's so trivial to just
take what should be one of his shitty

714
00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:17,440
take what should be one of his shitty
 

715
00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,750
take what should be one of his shitty
blog posts, narrate it with the energy

716
00:13:19,750 --> 00:13:19,760
blog posts, narrate it with the energy
 

717
00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,310
blog posts, narrate it with the energy
of a lifeless zombie, and lazily plaster

718
00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:22,320
of a lifeless zombie, and lazily plaster
 

719
00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,270
of a lifeless zombie, and lazily plaster
a bunch of stock footage on top of it.

720
00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:24,280
a bunch of stock footage on top of it.
 

721
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,670
a bunch of stock footage on top of it.
Time to join the fun.

722
00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:25,680
Time to join the fun.
 

723
00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:29,550
Time to join the fun.
>> The object cloaked in the space

724
00:13:29,550 --> 00:13:29,560
>> The object cloaked in the space
 

725
00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:32,950
>> The object cloaked in the space
and time it took to turn a head

726
00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:32,960
and time it took to turn a head
 

727
00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,110
and time it took to turn a head
and there was no shadow.

728
00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:35,120
and there was no shadow.
 

729
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,790
and there was no shadow.
>> Of course, he tries to spin it as a

730
00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:36,800
>> Of course, he tries to spin it as a
 

731
00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,110
>> Of course, he tries to spin it as a
heroic act that he's standing up for

732
00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:39,120
heroic act that he's standing up for
 

733
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,150
heroic act that he's standing up for
truth and justice. Let's get a few

734
00:13:41,150 --> 00:13:41,160
truth and justice. Let's get a few
 

735
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:48,910
truth and justice. Let's get a few
snippets from his first video.

736
00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:48,920

 

737
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,110

>> Hello.

738
00:13:50,110 --> 00:13:50,120
>> Hello.
 

739
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,110
>> Hello.
I'm Avi Loeb.

740
00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:52,120
I'm Avi Loeb.
 

741
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,870
I'm Avi Loeb.
I'm launching this official YouTube

742
00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:54,880
I'm launching this official YouTube
 

743
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,910
I'm launching this official YouTube
channel to share content that is

744
00:13:56,910 --> 00:13:56,920
channel to share content that is
 

745
00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,590
channel to share content that is
authentic and that I personally approve.

746
00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:00,600
authentic and that I personally approve.
 

747
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,110
authentic and that I personally approve.
Over the past few months, I received

748
00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:03,120
Over the past few months, I received
 

749
00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,230
Over the past few months, I received
thousands of emails from fans who

750
00:14:05,230 --> 00:14:05,240
thousands of emails from fans who
 

751
00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,470
thousands of emails from fans who
alerted me to YouTube channels

752
00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:07,480
alerted me to YouTube channels
 

753
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,510
alerted me to YouTube channels
displaying fake AI-generated videos of

754
00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:10,520
displaying fake AI-generated videos of
 

755
00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,510
displaying fake AI-generated videos of
me speaking about science. Many of my

756
00:14:13,510 --> 00:14:13,520
me speaking about science. Many of my
 

757
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,430
me speaking about science. Many of my
fans identified the deception because

758
00:14:16,430 --> 00:14:16,440
fans identified the deception because
 

759
00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,150
fans identified the deception because
the hands of the clock behind me did not

760
00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:19,160
the hands of the clock behind me did not
 

761
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,830
the hands of the clock behind me did not
move and because some of the statements

762
00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:21,840
move and because some of the statements
 

763
00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,390
move and because some of the statements
in the videos contradicted what I wrote

764
00:14:24,390 --> 00:14:24,400
in the videos contradicted what I wrote
 

765
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,590
in the videos contradicted what I wrote
in my daily essays on medium.com. That

766
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:27,600
in my daily essays on medium.com. That
 

767
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,510
in my daily essays on medium.com. That
is a new reality in which AI-generated

768
00:14:31,510 --> 00:14:31,520
is a new reality in which AI-generated
 

769
00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,910
is a new reality in which AI-generated
content spreads scientific

770
00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:33,920
content spreads scientific
 

771
00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,750
content spreads scientific
misinformation that is akin to identity

772
00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:37,760
misinformation that is akin to identity
 

773
00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,630
misinformation that is akin to identity
theft. Fake content is intentionally

774
00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:40,640
theft. Fake content is intentionally
 

775
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,670
theft. Fake content is intentionally
misleading and imposes an injury to

776
00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:43,680
misleading and imposes an injury to
 

777
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,710
misleading and imposes an injury to
scientific integrity.

778
00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:45,720
scientific integrity.
 

779
00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,790
scientific integrity.
>> Dear lord, I've seen more charisma in

780
00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:47,800
>> Dear lord, I've seen more charisma in
 

781
00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,310
>> Dear lord, I've seen more charisma in
hostage videos. So basically, spreading

782
00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:50,320
hostage videos. So basically, spreading
 

783
00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,190
hostage videos. So basically, spreading
misinformation on the internet for money

784
00:14:52,190 --> 00:14:52,200
misinformation on the internet for money
 

785
00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,750
misinformation on the internet for money
is cool when Avi does it, but when AI

786
00:14:54,750 --> 00:14:54,760
is cool when Avi does it, but when AI
 

787
00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,829
is cool when Avi does it, but when AI
cuts into his grift, that's crossing the

788
00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:56,839
cuts into his grift, that's crossing the
 

789
00:14:56,839 --> 00:14:58,990
cuts into his grift, that's crossing the
line. Honestly, I didn't see any of this

790
00:14:58,990 --> 00:14:59,000
line. Honestly, I didn't see any of this
 

791
00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,510
line. Honestly, I didn't see any of this
alleged AI content. It's not far-fetched

792
00:15:01,510 --> 00:15:01,520
alleged AI content. It's not far-fetched
 

793
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,230
alleged AI content. It's not far-fetched
that it would exist, but the channel

794
00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:03,240
that it would exist, but the channel
 

795
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,190
that it would exist, but the channel
he's talking about was taken down, which

796
00:15:05,190 --> 00:15:05,200
he's talking about was taken down, which
 

797
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,670
he's talking about was taken down, which
would be very easy to do with the

798
00:15:06,670 --> 00:15:06,680
would be very easy to do with the
 

799
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,829
would be very easy to do with the
automated tools YouTube makes available,

800
00:15:08,829 --> 00:15:08,839
automated tools YouTube makes available,
 

801
00:15:08,839 --> 00:15:11,150
automated tools YouTube makes available,
and it really is not that big a deal. I

802
00:15:11,150 --> 00:15:11,160
and it really is not that big a deal. I
 

803
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,150
and it really is not that big a deal. I
could only find one blog post with an

804
00:15:13,150 --> 00:15:13,160
could only find one blog post with an
 

805
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,950
could only find one blog post with an
actual screenshot of the content when it

806
00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:14,960
actual screenshot of the content when it
 

807
00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,750
actual screenshot of the content when it
was still up, and as you can see, the

808
00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:16,760
was still up, and as you can see, the
 

809
00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,829
was still up, and as you can see, the
view counts are quite low. Only one of

810
00:15:18,829 --> 00:15:18,839
view counts are quite low. Only one of
 

811
00:15:18,839 --> 00:15:21,310
view counts are quite low. Only one of
them broke 100k views, and Avi pretends

812
00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:21,320
them broke 100k views, and Avi pretends
 

813
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,590
them broke 100k views, and Avi pretends
that qualifies as viral. He's just

814
00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:23,600
that qualifies as viral. He's just
 

815
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,510
that qualifies as viral. He's just
playing the victim while grandstanding

816
00:15:25,510 --> 00:15:25,520
playing the victim while grandstanding
 

817
00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,350
playing the victim while grandstanding
about scientific integrity he doesn't

818
00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:27,360
about scientific integrity he doesn't
 

819
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,550
about scientific integrity he doesn't
possess an ounce of.

820
00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:28,560
possess an ounce of.
 

821
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,750
possess an ounce of.
>> In addition to AI creations, the online

822
00:15:31,750 --> 00:15:31,760
>> In addition to AI creations, the online
 

823
00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,990
>> In addition to AI creations, the online
ecosystem is full of blog posts and

824
00:15:34,990 --> 00:15:35,000
ecosystem is full of blog posts and
 

825
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,510
ecosystem is full of blog posts and
videos created by unqualified

826
00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:37,520
videos created by unqualified
 

827
00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,710
videos created by unqualified
influencers or science communicators who

828
00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:40,720
influencers or science communicators who
 

829
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,870
influencers or science communicators who
had not written a single scientific

830
00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:42,880
had not written a single scientific
 

831
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,390
had not written a single scientific
paper in decades.

832
00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:45,400
paper in decades.
 

833
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,230
paper in decades.
Yet, they masquerade as professors or

834
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:48,240
Yet, they masquerade as professors or
 

835
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,150
Yet, they masquerade as professors or
protectors of scientific truth and

836
00:15:51,150 --> 00:15:51,160
protectors of scientific truth and
 

837
00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,430
protectors of scientific truth and
attack real practitioners of science

838
00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:53,440
attack real practitioners of science
 

839
00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,390
attack real practitioners of science
like myself, even though my scientific

840
00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:56,400
like myself, even though my scientific
 

841
00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,910
like myself, even though my scientific
career spans 46 years, out of which I

842
00:15:59,910 --> 00:15:59,920
career spans 46 years, out of which I
 

843
00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,510
career spans 46 years, out of which I
was a Harvard professor for 33 years,

844
00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:03,520
was a Harvard professor for 33 years,
 

845
00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,470
was a Harvard professor for 33 years,
during which I wrote more than a

846
00:16:05,470 --> 00:16:05,480
during which I wrote more than a
 

847
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,950
during which I wrote more than a
thousand scientific papers and nine

848
00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:07,960
thousand scientific papers and nine
 

849
00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,830
thousand scientific papers and nine
books.

850
00:16:08,830 --> 00:16:08,840
books.
 

851
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,990
books.
>> Reminds you of James Tour, huh? Look at

852
00:16:10,990 --> 00:16:11,000
>> Reminds you of James Tour, huh? Look at
 

853
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,630
>> Reminds you of James Tour, huh? Look at
all my super awesome papers. Having lots

854
00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:13,640
all my super awesome papers. Having lots
 

855
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,630
all my super awesome papers. Having lots
of papers makes it physically impossible

856
00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:15,640
of papers makes it physically impossible
 

857
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,270
of papers makes it physically impossible
for me to step outside of my narrow

858
00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:17,280
for me to step outside of my narrow
 

859
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,910
for me to step outside of my narrow
expertise and spew utter horse [\h__\h] all

860
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:19,920
expertise and spew utter horse [\h__\h] all
 

861
00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,270
expertise and spew utter horse [\h__\h] all
over the internet for blatant

862
00:16:21,270 --> 00:16:21,280
over the internet for blatant
 

863
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,790
over the internet for blatant
ideological reasons. The only difference

864
00:16:23,790 --> 00:16:23,800
ideological reasons. The only difference
 

865
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,550
ideological reasons. The only difference
is that James is batshit insane and has

866
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:26,560
is that James is batshit insane and has
 

867
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,310
is that James is batshit insane and has
probably brainwashed himself into

868
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:28,320
probably brainwashed himself into
 

869
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,150
probably brainwashed himself into
thinking he's in the right. He's lying

870
00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:30,160
thinking he's in the right. He's lying
 

871
00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,390
thinking he's in the right. He's lying
about science for Jesus. Avi knows

872
00:16:32,390 --> 00:16:32,400
about science for Jesus. Avi knows
 

873
00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,150
about science for Jesus. Avi knows
exactly what he's doing. He's lying

874
00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:34,160
exactly what he's doing. He's lying
 

875
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,110
exactly what he's doing. He's lying
about science for money. Unimportant

876
00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:36,120
about science for money. Unimportant
 

877
00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,910
about science for money. Unimportant
distinction.

878
00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:36,920
distinction.
 

879
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,310
distinction.
>> In the same way that junk food is bad

880
00:16:39,310 --> 00:16:39,320
>> In the same way that junk food is bad
 

881
00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,710
>> In the same way that junk food is bad
for the physical health of our bodies,

882
00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:41,720
for the physical health of our bodies,
 

883
00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,630
for the physical health of our bodies,
junk intellectual food is bad for the

884
00:16:44,630 --> 00:16:44,640
junk intellectual food is bad for the
 

885
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,110
junk intellectual food is bad for the
mental health of our brains.

886
00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:48,120
mental health of our brains.
 

887
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,230
mental health of our brains.
When misinformation spreads unchecked,

888
00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:51,240
When misinformation spreads unchecked,
 

889
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,510
When misinformation spreads unchecked,
it undermines our ability to think

890
00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:53,520
it undermines our ability to think
 

891
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,390
it undermines our ability to think
critically, to evaluate evidence, and to

892
00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:56,400
critically, to evaluate evidence, and to
 

893
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,750
critically, to evaluate evidence, and to
engage with real ideas based on real

894
00:16:59,750 --> 00:16:59,760
engage with real ideas based on real
 

895
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,829
engage with real ideas based on real
reasoning.

896
00:17:00,829 --> 00:17:00,839
reasoning.
 

897
00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:03,230
reasoning.
>> Exactly. That's why I crap all over your

898
00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:03,240
>> Exactly. That's why I crap all over your
 

899
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,590
>> Exactly. That's why I crap all over your
fake science that brainwashes the masses

900
00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:05,600
fake science that brainwashes the masses
 

901
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,390
fake science that brainwashes the masses
into distrusting legitimate sources of

902
00:17:07,390 --> 00:17:07,400
into distrusting legitimate sources of
 

903
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,750
into distrusting legitimate sources of
information. I neutralize your toxic

904
00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:09,760
information. I neutralize your toxic
 

905
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,949
information. I neutralize your toxic
anti-science rhetoric about stupid

906
00:17:11,949 --> 00:17:11,959
anti-science rhetoric about stupid
 

907
00:17:11,959 --> 00:17:14,390
anti-science rhetoric about stupid
closed-minded academia that is always

908
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:14,400
closed-minded academia that is always
 

909
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,429
closed-minded academia that is always
rejecting bold new super awesome

910
00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:16,439
rejecting bold new super awesome
 

911
00:17:16,439 --> 00:17:19,189
rejecting bold new super awesome
trailblazing ideas like yours, and Eric

912
00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:19,199
trailblazing ideas like yours, and Eric
 

913
00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:21,750
trailblazing ideas like yours, and Eric
Weinsteins, and Graham Hancock's, and

914
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:21,760
Weinsteins, and Graham Hancock's, and
 

915
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,590
Weinsteins, and Graham Hancock's, and
Stephen Meyer's, and every other

916
00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:23,600
Stephen Meyer's, and every other
 

917
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,630
Stephen Meyer's, and every other
worthless fraud like you. You are junk.

918
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:26,640
worthless fraud like you. You are junk.
 

919
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,630
worthless fraud like you. You are junk.
You're a junk person that makes junk

920
00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:28,640
You're a junk person that makes junk
 

921
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,990
You're a junk person that makes junk
content. You're social poison, and I am

922
00:17:30,990 --> 00:17:31,000
content. You're social poison, and I am
 

923
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,150
content. You're social poison, and I am
the antidote. So, what has Avi been

924
00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:33,160
the antidote. So, what has Avi been
 

925
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,150
the antidote. So, what has Avi been
doing with his dumb channel? Just like

926
00:17:35,150 --> 00:17:35,160
doing with his dumb channel? Just like
 

927
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,350
doing with his dumb channel? Just like
Sabine Hossenfelder, it's a mixture of

928
00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:37,360
Sabine Hossenfelder, it's a mixture of
 

929
00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:39,750
Sabine Hossenfelder, it's a mixture of
harmless pop sci filler containing only

930
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:39,760
harmless pop sci filler containing only
 

931
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,390
harmless pop sci filler containing only
little dashes of propaganda alongside

932
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:42,400
little dashes of propaganda alongside
 

933
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,670
little dashes of propaganda alongside
brazen lies about science that more

934
00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:44,680
brazen lies about science that more
 

935
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,950
brazen lies about science that more
aggressively pushes agenda. Quite

936
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:46,960
aggressively pushes agenda. Quite
 

937
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,110
aggressively pushes agenda. Quite
predictably, there's endless content

938
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:49,120
predictably, there's endless content
 

939
00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,110
predictably, there's endless content
milking 3 i Atlas. The nucleus of 3 i

940
00:17:52,110 --> 00:17:52,120
milking 3 i Atlas. The nucleus of 3 i
 

941
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:54,190
milking 3 i Atlas. The nucleus of 3 i
Atlas makes it even stranger. It

942
00:17:54,190 --> 00:17:54,200
Atlas makes it even stranger. It
 

943
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,750
Atlas makes it even stranger. It
probably has aliens on it. Major tail

944
00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:56,760
probably has aliens on it. Major tail
 

945
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,310
probably has aliens on it. Major tail
anomaly, weird Hubble stuff, artificial

946
00:17:59,310 --> 00:17:59,320
anomaly, weird Hubble stuff, artificial
 

947
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,630
anomaly, weird Hubble stuff, artificial
jets, thrusters, endless content citing

948
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:02,640
jets, thrusters, endless content citing
 

949
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,630
jets, thrusters, endless content citing
non-existent anomaly after anomaly after

950
00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:05,640
non-existent anomaly after anomaly after
 

951
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,270
non-existent anomaly after anomaly after
anomaly, desperately coasting off of his

952
00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:08,280
anomaly, desperately coasting off of his
 

953
00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,470
anomaly, desperately coasting off of his
previous cycle of grifting to maximize

954
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:10,480
previous cycle of grifting to maximize
 

955
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,630
previous cycle of grifting to maximize
his mileage. Once in a while, he'll

956
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:12,640
his mileage. Once in a while, he'll
 

957
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,790
his mileage. Once in a while, he'll
throw out something else. One angle has

958
00:18:14,790 --> 00:18:14,800
throw out something else. One angle has
 

959
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,150
throw out something else. One angle has
to do with hunting for alien

960
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:16,160
to do with hunting for alien
 

961
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,190
to do with hunting for alien
biosignatures. This is a great one

962
00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:18,200
biosignatures. This is a great one
 

963
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,350
biosignatures. This is a great one
because it's a real area of inquiry.

964
00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:20,360
because it's a real area of inquiry.
 

965
00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,390
because it's a real area of inquiry.
Some potential biosignature candidates

966
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:22,400
Some potential biosignature candidates
 

967
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,630
Some potential biosignature candidates
have been discussed within academia and

968
00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:24,640
have been discussed within academia and
 

969
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,550
have been discussed within academia and
heavily publicized through pop sci

970
00:18:26,550 --> 00:18:26,560
heavily publicized through pop sci
 

971
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,510
heavily publicized through pop sci
reporting. So, it's an easy star to

972
00:18:28,510 --> 00:18:28,520
reporting. So, it's an easy star to
 

973
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,710
reporting. So, it's an easy star to
hitch his wagon to. A bit of background

974
00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:30,720
hitch his wagon to. A bit of background
 

975
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,430
hitch his wagon to. A bit of background
here. Clearly, there is plenty of

976
00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:32,440
here. Clearly, there is plenty of
 

977
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,630
here. Clearly, there is plenty of
non-life in the universe, and therefore

978
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:34,640
non-life in the universe, and therefore
 

979
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,030
non-life in the universe, and therefore
lots of associated non-life chemistry.

980
00:18:37,030 --> 00:18:37,040
lots of associated non-life chemistry.
 

981
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,950
lots of associated non-life chemistry.
There is also chemistry we might expect

982
00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:38,960
There is also chemistry we might expect
 

983
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,190
There is also chemistry we might expect
to be associated with life, like CO2

984
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:41,200
to be associated with life, like CO2
 

985
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,110
to be associated with life, like CO2
production, but this is not convincing

986
00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:43,120
production, but this is not convincing
 

987
00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:44,590
production, but this is not convincing
unless you can show that nothing else

988
00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:44,600
unless you can show that nothing else
 

989
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,830
unless you can show that nothing else
could produce it. In science, we always

990
00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:46,840
could produce it. In science, we always
 

991
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,110
could produce it. In science, we always
rule out prosaic explanations before

992
00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:49,120
rule out prosaic explanations before
 

993
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,110
rule out prosaic explanations before
jumping to something more outlandish,

994
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:51,120
jumping to something more outlandish,
 

995
00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:53,510
jumping to something more outlandish,
but that's not how Avi rolls. Avi likes

996
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:53,520
but that's not how Avi rolls. Avi likes
 

997
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,150
but that's not how Avi rolls. Avi likes
to jump to the most outlandish

998
00:18:55,150 --> 00:18:55,160
to jump to the most outlandish
 

999
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,790
to jump to the most outlandish
explanation possible, ignore every other

1000
00:18:57,790 --> 00:18:57,800
explanation possible, ignore every other
 

1001
00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,870
explanation possible, ignore every other
explanation no matter how consistent it

1002
00:18:59,870 --> 00:18:59,880
explanation no matter how consistent it
 

1003
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,710
explanation no matter how consistent it
is with the data, and then whine about

1004
00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:01,720
is with the data, and then whine about
 

1005
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,390
is with the data, and then whine about
how closed-minded academia is for

1006
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:04,400
how closed-minded academia is for
 

1007
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,870
how closed-minded academia is for
censoring his super hot truth. Here's

1008
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:06,880
censoring his super hot truth. Here's
 

1009
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,430
censoring his super hot truth. Here's
one called Did we miss the discovery of

1010
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:09,440
one called Did we miss the discovery of
 

1011
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,590
one called Did we miss the discovery of
life on Mars?

1012
00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:10,600
life on Mars?
 

1013
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,630
life on Mars?
>> Mainstream scientists warn us about

1014
00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:13,640
>> Mainstream scientists warn us about
 

1015
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,710
>> Mainstream scientists warn us about
false positives,

1016
00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:15,720
false positives,
 

1017
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,710
false positives,
namely misleading claims for interesting

1018
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:18,720
namely misleading claims for interesting
 

1019
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,390
namely misleading claims for interesting
signals that are not substantiated by

1020
00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:21,400
signals that are not substantiated by
 

1021
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,110
signals that are not substantiated by
sufficient evidence.

1022
00:19:24,110 --> 00:19:24,120
sufficient evidence.
 

1023
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,230
sufficient evidence.
Indeed, the job of science is not done

1024
00:19:27,230 --> 00:19:27,240
Indeed, the job of science is not done
 

1025
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,750
Indeed, the job of science is not done
when a signal is detected.

1026
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:29,760
when a signal is detected.
 

1027
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,310
when a signal is detected.
The discoverers must demonstrate that

1028
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:32,320
The discoverers must demonstrate that
 

1029
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,870
The discoverers must demonstrate that
the signal is statistically significant

1030
00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:34,880
the signal is statistically significant
 

1031
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,110
the signal is statistically significant
relative to the noise and cannot

1032
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:37,120
relative to the noise and cannot
 

1033
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:41,190
relative to the noise and cannot
entertain mundane interpretations.

1034
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:41,200
entertain mundane interpretations.
 

1035
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,870
entertain mundane interpretations.
At the same time, discoveries

1036
00:19:43,870 --> 00:19:43,880
At the same time, discoveries
 

1037
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,550
At the same time, discoveries
often emerge out of a fog of

1038
00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:46,560
often emerge out of a fog of
 

1039
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,550
often emerge out of a fog of
uncertainty.

1040
00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:48,560
uncertainty.
 

1041
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,830
uncertainty.
They are flagged by anomalies that the

1042
00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:50,840
They are flagged by anomalies that the
 

1043
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,110
They are flagged by anomalies that the
risk-averse scientific community

1044
00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:53,120
risk-averse scientific community
 

1045
00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:56,030
risk-averse scientific community
initially ignores because of the mental

1046
00:19:56,030 --> 00:19:56,040
initially ignores because of the mental
 

1047
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,390
initially ignores because of the mental
comfort of following the herd.

1048
00:19:59,390 --> 00:19:59,400
comfort of following the herd.
 

1049
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,470
comfort of following the herd.
Innovative scientists warn us about

1050
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:02,480
Innovative scientists warn us about
 

1051
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,990
Innovative scientists warn us about
false negatives,

1052
00:20:04,990 --> 00:20:05,000
false negatives,
 

1053
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,230
false negatives,
namely the dismissal of preliminary

1054
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:08,240
namely the dismissal of preliminary
 

1055
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,470
namely the dismissal of preliminary
intriguing evidence that ushers in an

1056
00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:11,480
intriguing evidence that ushers in an
 

1057
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,310
intriguing evidence that ushers in an
important discovery.

1058
00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:13,320
important discovery.
 

1059
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,070
important discovery.
>> False positives exist, admits Avi, the

1060
00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:16,080
>> False positives exist, admits Avi, the
 

1061
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,230
>> False positives exist, admits Avi, the
fraud who collects them like Pokémon,

1062
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:18,240
fraud who collects them like Pokémon,
 

1063
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,270
fraud who collects them like Pokémon,
but false negatives exist, too, you

1064
00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:20,280
but false negatives exist, too, you
 

1065
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,710
but false negatives exist, too, you
stupid closed-minded jerks. Why are you

1066
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:22,720
stupid closed-minded jerks. Why are you
 

1067
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,750
stupid closed-minded jerks. Why are you
always following the herd, you stupid

1068
00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:24,760
always following the herd, you stupid
 

1069
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,390
always following the herd, you stupid
sheep? Why can't you be rogue

1070
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:26,400
sheep? Why can't you be rogue
 

1071
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,790
sheep? Why can't you be rogue
trailblazers like me who just shout

1072
00:20:28,790 --> 00:20:28,800
trailblazers like me who just shout
 

1073
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,990
trailblazers like me who just shout
aliens and then figure out some [\h__\h]

1074
00:20:30,990 --> 00:20:31,000
aliens and then figure out some [\h__\h]
 

1075
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,150
aliens and then figure out some [\h__\h]
to back it up later?

1076
00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:32,160
to back it up later?
 

1077
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,110
to back it up later?
>> The failure to recognize microbial life

1078
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:35,120
>> The failure to recognize microbial life
 

1079
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,510
>> The failure to recognize microbial life
when the evidence suggests it was

1080
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:37,520
when the evidence suggests it was
 

1081
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,910
when the evidence suggests it was
demonstrated during the missions of the

1082
00:20:39,910 --> 00:20:39,920
demonstrated during the missions of the
 

1083
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,790
demonstrated during the missions of the
Viking 1 and 2 spacecraft, which landed

1084
00:20:43,790 --> 00:20:43,800
Viking 1 and 2 spacecraft, which landed
 

1085
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,030
Viking 1 and 2 spacecraft, which landed
on Mars on July 20th and September 3rd,

1086
00:20:48,030 --> 00:20:48,040
on Mars on July 20th and September 3rd,
 

1087
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,830
on Mars on July 20th and September 3rd,
1976,

1088
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:49,840
1976,
 

1089
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,350
1976,
respectively.

1090
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:51,360
respectively.
 

1091
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,310
respectively.
The spacecraft scooped up samples of

1092
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:54,320
The spacecraft scooped up samples of
 

1093
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,270
The spacecraft scooped up samples of
Martian soil and treated them with

1094
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:57,280
Martian soil and treated them with
 

1095
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,150
Martian soil and treated them with
nutrients, water, and heat and searched

1096
00:21:01,150 --> 00:21:01,160
nutrients, water, and heat and searched
 

1097
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,710
nutrients, water, and heat and searched
for signs of biology, such as the

1098
00:21:03,710 --> 00:21:03,720
for signs of biology, such as the
 

1099
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,750
for signs of biology, such as the
release of radioactively tagged carbon

1100
00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:06,760
release of radioactively tagged carbon
 

1101
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,710
release of radioactively tagged carbon
gases or the absorption of carbon

1102
00:21:09,710 --> 00:21:09,720
gases or the absorption of carbon
 

1103
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,750
gases or the absorption of carbon
monoxide and carbon dioxide in the soil.

1104
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:13,760
monoxide and carbon dioxide in the soil.
 

1105
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,630
monoxide and carbon dioxide in the soil.
>> Okay, so he's gearing up to talk about

1106
00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:15,640
>> Okay, so he's gearing up to talk about
 

1107
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,630
>> Okay, so he's gearing up to talk about
the Viking experiments, which is very

1108
00:21:17,630 --> 00:21:17,640
the Viking experiments, which is very
 

1109
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,990
the Viking experiments, which is very
interesting science that has been

1110
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:19,000
interesting science that has been
 

1111
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,990
interesting science that has been
discussed at great length for decades by

1112
00:21:20,990 --> 00:21:21,000
discussed at great length for decades by
 

1113
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,990
discussed at great length for decades by
the scientific community. While there is

1114
00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:23,000
the scientific community. While there is
 

1115
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,350
the scientific community. While there is
some mild controversy, the details are

1116
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:25,360
some mild controversy, the details are
 

1117
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,510
some mild controversy, the details are
taught to freshmen in college and often

1118
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:27,520
taught to freshmen in college and often
 

1119
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,030
taught to freshmen in college and often
presented as remaining open to

1120
00:21:29,030 --> 00:21:29,040
presented as remaining open to
 

1121
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,270
presented as remaining open to
interpretation. Obvi is going to pretend

1122
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:31,280
interpretation. Obvi is going to pretend
 

1123
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,150
interpretation. Obvi is going to pretend
that he's the only truth seeker brave

1124
00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:33,160
that he's the only truth seeker brave
 

1125
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,390
that he's the only truth seeker brave
enough to talk about this shocking data

1126
00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:35,400
enough to talk about this shocking data
 

1127
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,230
enough to talk about this shocking data
and that NASA just doesn't want to

1128
00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:37,240
and that NASA just doesn't want to
 

1129
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,950
and that NASA just doesn't want to
discover life on Mars. In reality, NASA

1130
00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:39,960
discover life on Mars. In reality, NASA
 

1131
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,870
discover life on Mars. In reality, NASA
would love nothing more than to discover

1132
00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:41,880
would love nothing more than to discover
 

1133
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,990
would love nothing more than to discover
life on Mars. That's one of the reasons

1134
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:44,000
life on Mars. That's one of the reasons
 

1135
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,710
life on Mars. That's one of the reasons
they keep sending rovers more

1136
00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:45,720
they keep sending rovers more
 

1137
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,270
they keep sending rovers more
experiments. But there is absolutely no

1138
00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:48,280
experiments. But there is absolutely no
 

1139
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,150
experiments. But there is absolutely no
conclusive evidence for such Martian

1140
00:21:50,150 --> 00:21:50,160
conclusive evidence for such Martian
 

1141
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,190
conclusive evidence for such Martian
life. So, what did the Viking landers

1142
00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:52,200
life. So, what did the Viking landers
 

1143
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,390
life. So, what did the Viking landers
find? First, the landers had gas

1144
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:54,400
find? First, the landers had gas
 

1145
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,470
find? First, the landers had gas
chromatographs. These can separate

1146
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:56,480
chromatographs. These can separate
 

1147
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,910
chromatographs. These can separate
components in soil samples and use mass

1148
00:21:58,910 --> 00:21:58,920
components in soil samples and use mass
 

1149
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,630
components in soil samples and use mass
spectrometry to measure their molecular

1150
00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:00,640
spectrometry to measure their molecular
 

1151
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,550
spectrometry to measure their molecular
weights. So, it tells you what's in

1152
00:22:02,550 --> 00:22:02,560
weights. So, it tells you what's in
 

1153
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,630
weights. So, it tells you what's in
there. They found no significant amount

1154
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:04,640
there. They found no significant amount
 

1155
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,910
there. They found no significant amount
of organic molecules in Martian soil,

1156
00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:06,920
of organic molecules in Martian soil,
 

1157
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,470
of organic molecules in Martian soil,
even less than are found in the lunar

1158
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:08,480
even less than are found in the lunar
 

1159
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,870
even less than are found in the lunar
soil, in fact. Second, they did labeled

1160
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:10,880
soil, in fact. Second, they did labeled
 

1161
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,150
soil, in fact. Second, they did labeled
release. You put a drop of a nutrient on

1162
00:22:13,150 --> 00:22:13,160
release. You put a drop of a nutrient on
 

1163
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,110
release. You put a drop of a nutrient on
a sample of Martian soil tagged with

1164
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:15,120
a sample of Martian soil tagged with
 

1165
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,270
a sample of Martian soil tagged with
radioactive C14. Then, you look for CO2

1166
00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:18,280
radioactive C14. Then, you look for CO2
 

1167
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,270
radioactive C14. Then, you look for CO2
with C14 in it. This would be a

1168
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:20,280
with C14 in it. This would be a
 

1169
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,430
with C14 in it. This would be a
potential sign of metabolism since

1170
00:22:22,430 --> 00:22:22,440
potential sign of metabolism since
 

1171
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,550
potential sign of metabolism since
something would have to have done

1172
00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:23,560
something would have to have done
 

1173
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,270
something would have to have done
chemistry with the C14 and incorporated

1174
00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:26,280
chemistry with the C14 and incorporated
 

1175
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,750
chemistry with the C14 and incorporated
it into CO2. This is the bit that Obvi

1176
00:22:28,750 --> 00:22:28,760
it into CO2. This is the bit that Obvi
 

1177
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,950
it into CO2. This is the bit that Obvi
is flipping out about. Surprisingly, a

1178
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:30,960
is flipping out about. Surprisingly, a
 

1179
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,190
is flipping out about. Surprisingly, a
stream of radioactive gases was produced

1180
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:33,200
stream of radioactive gases was produced
 

1181
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,230
stream of radioactive gases was produced
following the first injection and both

1182
00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:35,240
following the first injection and both
 

1183
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,510
following the first injection and both
probes found the same result. Upon

1184
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:37,520
probes found the same result. Upon
 

1185
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,550
probes found the same result. Upon
heating, radioactive gas production was

1186
00:22:39,550 --> 00:22:39,560
heating, radioactive gas production was
 

1187
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,830
heating, radioactive gas production was
reduced, but science doesn't end there.

1188
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:41,840
reduced, but science doesn't end there.
 

1189
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,830
reduced, but science doesn't end there.
You try more things. And as we

1190
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:43,840
You try more things. And as we
 

1191
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,190
You try more things. And as we
discovered, when you add more nutrients,

1192
00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:46,200
discovered, when you add more nutrients,
 

1193
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,110
discovered, when you add more nutrients,
nothing happens. That's not what you

1194
00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:48,120
nothing happens. That's not what you
 

1195
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,390
nothing happens. That's not what you
would expect if microbes were present.

1196
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:50,400
would expect if microbes were present.
 

1197
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,110
would expect if microbes were present.
They should respond to new doses of

1198
00:22:52,110 --> 00:22:52,120
They should respond to new doses of
 

1199
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:55,070
They should respond to new doses of
food. Also, once again, the GC analysis

1200
00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:55,080
food. Also, once again, the GC analysis
 

1201
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,270
food. Also, once again, the GC analysis
found no organic compounds. How could

1202
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:57,280
found no organic compounds. How could
 

1203
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,870
found no organic compounds. How could
that be consistent with the presence of

1204
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:58,880
that be consistent with the presence of
 

1205
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,110
that be consistent with the presence of
living organisms? Finally, there are

1206
00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:01,120
living organisms? Finally, there are
 

1207
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,670
living organisms? Finally, there are
non-biological explanations. In cold,

1208
00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:03,680
non-biological explanations. In cold,
 

1209
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,950
non-biological explanations. In cold,
dry conditions, UV light creates

1210
00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:05,960
dry conditions, UV light creates
 

1211
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,430
dry conditions, UV light creates
superoxides, which cause a reaction that

1212
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:08,440
superoxides, which cause a reaction that
 

1213
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,150
superoxides, which cause a reaction that
produces a similar result as when

1214
00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:10,160
produces a similar result as when
 

1215
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,070
produces a similar result as when
nutrients are added. And this happens

1216
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:12,080
nutrients are added. And this happens
 

1217
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,830
nutrients are added. And this happens
only once, since they're used up the

1218
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:13,840
only once, since they're used up the
 

1219
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,110
only once, since they're used up the
first time, and it takes a while for UV

1220
00:23:16,110 --> 00:23:16,120
first time, and it takes a while for UV
 

1221
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,150
first time, and it takes a while for UV
light to make more. Continuing, in 2008,

1222
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:19,160
light to make more. Continuing, in 2008,
 

1223
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,230
light to make more. Continuing, in 2008,
the Phoenix lander found perchlorate,

1224
00:23:21,230 --> 00:23:21,240
the Phoenix lander found perchlorate,
 

1225
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,110
the Phoenix lander found perchlorate,
which is a strong oxidizer, and

1226
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:23,120
which is a strong oxidizer, and
 

1227
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,710
which is a strong oxidizer, and
therefore a potential cause for the

1228
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:24,720
therefore a potential cause for the
 

1229
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,110
therefore a potential cause for the
labeled release result. It also breaks

1230
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:27,120
labeled release result. It also breaks
 

1231
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,270
labeled release result. It also breaks
down organics, so one could argue it's

1232
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:29,280
down organics, so one could argue it's
 

1233
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,310
down organics, so one could argue it's
possible that organic material had been

1234
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:31,320
possible that organic material had been
 

1235
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,390
possible that organic material had been
present but was broken down. But we can

1236
00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:33,400
present but was broken down. But we can
 

1237
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,910
present but was broken down. But we can
see a most likely scenario emerge pretty

1238
00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:35,920
see a most likely scenario emerge pretty
 

1239
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,110
see a most likely scenario emerge pretty
clearly. Nevertheless, the scientific

1240
00:23:38,110 --> 00:23:38,120
clearly. Nevertheless, the scientific
 

1241
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,230
clearly. Nevertheless, the scientific
community is all about healthy debate,

1242
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:40,240
community is all about healthy debate,
 

1243
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,190
community is all about healthy debate,
and this debate did indeed take place,

1244
00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:42,200
and this debate did indeed take place,
 

1245
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,230
and this debate did indeed take place,
as it always does, in the primary

1246
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:44,240
as it always does, in the primary
 

1247
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,950
as it always does, in the primary
literature. Papers in 2002, 2007, and

1248
00:23:47,950 --> 00:23:47,960
literature. Papers in 2002, 2007, and
 

1249
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,870
literature. Papers in 2002, 2007, and
2012 speculated at length as to how

1250
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:50,880
2012 speculated at length as to how
 

1251
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,550
2012 speculated at length as to how
these results could be consistent with

1252
00:23:52,550 --> 00:23:52,560
these results could be consistent with
 

1253
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,150
these results could be consistent with
life. Hypothetical organisms may use a

1254
00:23:55,150 --> 00:23:55,160
life. Hypothetical organisms may use a
 

1255
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,350
life. Hypothetical organisms may use a
water-hydrogen peroxide mixture as their

1256
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:57,360
water-hydrogen peroxide mixture as their
 

1257
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,510
water-hydrogen peroxide mixture as their
intracellular liquid. Complexity

1258
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:59,520
intracellular liquid. Complexity
 

1259
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,590
intracellular liquid. Complexity
analysis, cluster analysis. How very

1260
00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:02,600
analysis, cluster analysis. How very
 

1261
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,710
analysis, cluster analysis. How very
open-minded of Avi's closed-minded

1262
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:04,720
open-minded of Avi's closed-minded
 

1263
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,390
open-minded of Avi's closed-minded
academia, wouldn't you say?

1264
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:06,400
academia, wouldn't you say?
 

1265
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,830
academia, wouldn't you say?
Nevertheless, most astrobiologists do

1266
00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:08,840
Nevertheless, most astrobiologists do
 

1267
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,390
Nevertheless, most astrobiologists do
not believe that the Viking landers

1268
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:10,400
not believe that the Viking landers
 

1269
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,590
not believe that the Viking landers
detected evidence for life. Many feel

1270
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:12,600
detected evidence for life. Many feel
 

1271
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,270
detected evidence for life. Many feel
these experiments were overhyped,

1272
00:24:14,270 --> 00:24:14,280
these experiments were overhyped,
 

1273
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,910
these experiments were overhyped,
especially by Carl Sagan, but nobody is

1274
00:24:16,910 --> 00:24:16,920
especially by Carl Sagan, but nobody is
 

1275
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,190
especially by Carl Sagan, but nobody is
dogmatic about it. People publish, and

1276
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:19,200
dogmatic about it. People publish, and
 

1277
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,310
dogmatic about it. People publish, and
discussion continues. Let's hear what

1278
00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:21,320
discussion continues. Let's hear what
 

1279
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,830
discussion continues. Let's hear what
Avi has to say about it.

1280
00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:22,840
Avi has to say about it.
 

1281
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,550
Avi has to say about it.
>> In particular, the labeled release

1282
00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:25,560
>> In particular, the labeled release
 

1283
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,350
>> In particular, the labeled release
experiment, designed to detect active

1284
00:24:28,350 --> 00:24:28,360
experiment, designed to detect active
 

1285
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:32,630
experiment, designed to detect active
metabolism, measured 14 CO2 emission

1286
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:32,640
metabolism, measured 14 CO2 emission
 

1287
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,870
metabolism, measured 14 CO2 emission
during exposure of regolith samples to

1288
00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:35,880
during exposure of regolith samples to
 

1289
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,630
during exposure of regolith samples to
growth medium, a result consistent with

1290
00:24:39,630 --> 00:24:39,640
growth medium, a result consistent with
 

1291
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,830
growth medium, a result consistent with
biological growth.

1292
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:41,840
biological growth.
 

1293
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,670
biological growth.
These labeled release results were,

1294
00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:44,680
These labeled release results were,
 

1295
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,830
These labeled release results were,
however, framed as merely anomalous when

1296
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:48,840
however, framed as merely anomalous when
 

1297
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,590
however, framed as merely anomalous when
it was concluded that the Martian

1298
00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:50,600
it was concluded that the Martian
 

1299
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,070
it was concluded that the Martian
regolith was free of organic matter, and

1300
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:54,080
regolith was free of organic matter, and
 

1301
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,230
regolith was free of organic matter, and
therefore lifeless.

1302
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:56,240
therefore lifeless.
 

1303
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,630
therefore lifeless.
>> Avi is pretending that consistent should

1304
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:58,640
>> Avi is pretending that consistent should
 

1305
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,390
>> Avi is pretending that consistent should
mean conclusive. It doesn't. A singular

1306
00:25:01,390 --> 00:25:01,400
mean conclusive. It doesn't. A singular
 

1307
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,150
mean conclusive. It doesn't. A singular
result can be consistent with lots of

1308
00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:03,160
result can be consistent with lots of
 

1309
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,190
result can be consistent with lots of
things. In fact, the result was

1310
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:05,200
things. In fact, the result was
 

1311
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,030
things. In fact, the result was
consistent with both life and non-life.

1312
00:25:08,030 --> 00:25:08,040
consistent with both life and non-life.
 

1313
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,870
consistent with both life and non-life.
Given that the result was anomalous,

1314
00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:09,880
Given that the result was anomalous,
 

1315
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,910
Given that the result was anomalous,
other trials did not produce the result,

1316
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:11,920
other trials did not produce the result,
 

1317
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,470
other trials did not produce the result,
and also due to the other clear

1318
00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:13,480
and also due to the other clear
 

1319
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,470
and also due to the other clear
explanations for the signal. He can't

1320
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:15,480
explanations for the signal. He can't
 

1321
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,150
explanations for the signal. He can't
even muster up the courage to say that

1322
00:25:17,150 --> 00:25:17,160
even muster up the courage to say that
 

1323
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,870
even muster up the courage to say that
life is the best explanation for the

1324
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:18,880
life is the best explanation for the
 

1325
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,990
life is the best explanation for the
result because he can't, because it

1326
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:21,000
result because he can't, because it
 

1327
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,070
result because he can't, because it
isn't. And he doesn't even touch the

1328
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:23,080
isn't. And he doesn't even touch the
 

1329
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,070
isn't. And he doesn't even touch the
absence of organic matter in those same

1330
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:25,080
absence of organic matter in those same
 

1331
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,310
absence of organic matter in those same
samples. That was an important result as

1332
00:25:27,310 --> 00:25:27,320
samples. That was an important result as
 

1333
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,390
samples. That was an important result as
well, which is seriously inconsistent

1334
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:29,400
well, which is seriously inconsistent
 

1335
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,670
well, which is seriously inconsistent
with life. If Avi has an explanation for

1336
00:25:31,670 --> 00:25:31,680
with life. If Avi has an explanation for
 

1337
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,790
with life. If Avi has an explanation for
that result which supports Martian life,

1338
00:25:33,790 --> 00:25:33,800
that result which supports Martian life,
 

1339
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,150
that result which supports Martian life,
we'd all like to hear it.

1340
00:25:35,150 --> 00:25:35,160
we'd all like to hear it.
 

1341
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,110
we'd all like to hear it.
>> In other words, mainstream scientists

1342
00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:38,120
>> In other words, mainstream scientists
 

1343
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:41,150
>> In other words, mainstream scientists
dismissed the findings while claiming

1344
00:25:41,150 --> 00:25:41,160
dismissed the findings while claiming
 

1345
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,190
dismissed the findings while claiming
that abiotic processes could account for

1346
00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:44,200
that abiotic processes could account for
 

1347
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,310
that abiotic processes could account for
the data.

1348
00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:45,320
the data.
 

1349
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,110
the data.
>> Yeah, they made that claim because it's

1350
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:47,120
>> Yeah, they made that claim because it's
 

1351
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,670
>> Yeah, they made that claim because it's
objectively true. There are indeed other

1352
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:49,680
objectively true. There are indeed other
 

1353
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,790
objectively true. There are indeed other
explanations in the form of plausible

1354
00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:51,800
explanations in the form of plausible
 

1355
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,990
explanations in the form of plausible
abiotic mechanisms, and they fit the

1356
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:54,000
abiotic mechanisms, and they fit the
 

1357
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,070
abiotic mechanisms, and they fit the
data better. Nothing was callously

1358
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:56,080
data better. Nothing was callously
 

1359
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,790
data better. Nothing was callously
dismissed. Scientists don't do that, at

1360
00:25:58,790 --> 00:25:58,800
dismissed. Scientists don't do that, at
 

1361
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,950
dismissed. Scientists don't do that, at
least ones that aren't like Avi. Healthy

1362
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:00,960
least ones that aren't like Avi. Healthy
 

1363
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,590
least ones that aren't like Avi. Healthy
debate occurred, and this singular

1364
00:26:02,590 --> 00:26:02,600
debate occurred, and this singular
 

1365
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,390
debate occurred, and this singular
result just is not sufficiently

1366
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:04,400
result just is not sufficiently
 

1367
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,070
result just is not sufficiently
compelling.

1368
00:26:05,070 --> 00:26:05,080
compelling.
 

1369
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,230
compelling.
>> The Viking landers from 50 years ago

1370
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:08,240
>> The Viking landers from 50 years ago
 

1371
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,030
>> The Viking landers from 50 years ago
were the first and only missions so far

1372
00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:11,040
were the first and only missions so far
 

1373
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,790
were the first and only missions so far
explicitly designed to search for

1374
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:13,800
explicitly designed to search for
 

1375
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,430
explicitly designed to search for
biological activity on Mars.

1376
00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:16,440
biological activity on Mars.
 

1377
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,870
biological activity on Mars.
Why did NASA never attempt to reproduce

1378
00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:19,880
Why did NASA never attempt to reproduce
 

1379
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,990
Why did NASA never attempt to reproduce
the results over the past 50 years?

1380
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:23,000
the results over the past 50 years?
 

1381
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,750
the results over the past 50 years?
The only plausible explanation is that

1382
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:25,760
The only plausible explanation is that
 

1383
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,710
The only plausible explanation is that
the risk-averse astrobiology community

1384
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:28,720
the risk-averse astrobiology community
 

1385
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,870
the risk-averse astrobiology community
restrained itself from finding life in

1386
00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:31,880
restrained itself from finding life in
 

1387
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,830
restrained itself from finding life in
the same way because of the controversy

1388
00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:34,840
the same way because of the controversy
 

1389
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,750
the same way because of the controversy
generated by the Viking results.

1390
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:37,760
generated by the Viking results.
 

1391
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,790
generated by the Viking results.
This is exactly the opposite mindset of

1392
00:26:40,790 --> 00:26:40,800
This is exactly the opposite mindset of
 

1393
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,030
This is exactly the opposite mindset of
a curious and open-minded research

1394
00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:43,040
a curious and open-minded research
 

1395
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,230
a curious and open-minded research
community.

1396
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,240
community.
 

1397
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,670
community.
>> Here we go. The stupid closed-minded

1398
00:26:46,670 --> 00:26:46,680
>> Here we go. The stupid closed-minded
 

1399
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,230
>> Here we go. The stupid closed-minded
NASA jerk faces are too scared to find

1400
00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:49,240
NASA jerk faces are too scared to find
 

1401
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,550
NASA jerk faces are too scared to find
life, so they won't even try. They're

1402
00:26:51,550 --> 00:26:51,560
life, so they won't even try. They're
 

1403
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,670
life, so they won't even try. They're
risk-averse. NASA, who sent a bunch of

1404
00:26:54,670 --> 00:26:54,680
risk-averse. NASA, who sent a bunch of
 

1405
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,030
risk-averse. NASA, who sent a bunch of
men to the lunar surface in [\h__\h] tin

1406
00:26:57,030 --> 00:26:57,040
men to the lunar surface in [\h__\h] tin
 

1407
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,790
men to the lunar surface in [\h__\h] tin
cans in the '70s, are risk-averse. What

1408
00:27:00,790 --> 00:27:00,800
cans in the '70s, are risk-averse. What
 

1409
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,150
cans in the '70s, are risk-averse. What
an [\h__\h] Back here in reality, the

1410
00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:03,160
an [\h__\h] Back here in reality, the
 

1411
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,150
an [\h__\h] Back here in reality, the
truth of the matter is that NASA nerds

1412
00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:05,160
truth of the matter is that NASA nerds
 

1413
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,870
truth of the matter is that NASA nerds
would be flipping their [\h__\h] if they

1414
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:06,880
would be flipping their [\h__\h] if they
 

1415
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,990
would be flipping their [\h__\h] if they
found clear evidence of Martian life.

1416
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:09,000
found clear evidence of Martian life.
 

1417
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,390
found clear evidence of Martian life.
This narrative of scientists not wanting

1418
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:11,400
This narrative of scientists not wanting
 

1419
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,550
This narrative of scientists not wanting
to make incredible discoveries is the

1420
00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:13,560
to make incredible discoveries is the
 

1421
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,870
to make incredible discoveries is the
most infantile thing imaginable. The

1422
00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:15,880
most infantile thing imaginable. The
 

1423
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,110
most infantile thing imaginable. The
problem is that NASA's budget has been a

1424
00:27:18,110 --> 00:27:18,120
problem is that NASA's budget has been a
 

1425
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,230
problem is that NASA's budget has been a
tiny fraction of what it was since the

1426
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:20,240
tiny fraction of what it was since the
 

1427
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,590
tiny fraction of what it was since the
Apollo program ended. Every instrument

1428
00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:22,600
Apollo program ended. Every instrument
 

1429
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,630
Apollo program ended. Every instrument
on these landers is subject to

1430
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:24,640
on these landers is subject to
 

1431
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,470
on these landers is subject to
prioritization and determined by

1432
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:26,480
prioritization and determined by
 

1433
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,310
prioritization and determined by
consensus. Repeating experiments is not

1434
00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:29,320
consensus. Repeating experiments is not
 

1435
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,910
consensus. Repeating experiments is not
a very high priority. Would it be fun?

1436
00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:31,920
a very high priority. Would it be fun?
 

1437
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,870
a very high priority. Would it be fun?
Sure. But tell that to the federal

1438
00:27:33,870 --> 00:27:33,880
Sure. But tell that to the federal
 

1439
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,990
Sure. But tell that to the federal
government, which is currently

1440
00:27:34,990 --> 00:27:35,000
government, which is currently
 

1441
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,430
government, which is currently
destroying literally all of science, and

1442
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:37,440
destroying literally all of science, and
 

1443
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,590
destroying literally all of science, and
see how far you get. And while we're at

1444
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:39,600
see how far you get. And while we're at
 

1445
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,110
see how far you get. And while we're at
it, notice how Avi, the Harvard phenom,

1446
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:42,120
it, notice how Avi, the Harvard phenom,
 

1447
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,430
it, notice how Avi, the Harvard phenom,
hasn't made a peep about all that. In

1448
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:44,440
hasn't made a peep about all that. In
 

1449
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,830
hasn't made a peep about all that. In
the end, Avi speculating about motives

1450
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:46,840
the end, Avi speculating about motives
 

1451
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,670
the end, Avi speculating about motives
is nothing but pageantry, and the

1452
00:27:48,670 --> 00:27:48,680
is nothing but pageantry, and the
 

1453
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,070
is nothing but pageantry, and the
absence of repeated experiments does not

1454
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:51,080
absence of repeated experiments does not
 

1455
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,470
absence of repeated experiments does not
change the results of the initial

1456
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:52,480
change the results of the initial
 

1457
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,430
change the results of the initial
experiment. This is more or less the

1458
00:27:54,430 --> 00:27:54,440
experiment. This is more or less the
 

1459
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,470
experiment. This is more or less the
best he can do. Take some science from

1460
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:56,480
best he can do. Take some science from
 

1461
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,310
best he can do. Take some science from
50 years ago, overstated significance,

1462
00:27:59,310 --> 00:27:59,320
50 years ago, overstated significance,
 

1463
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,990
50 years ago, overstated significance,
claim that the scientific community is

1464
00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:01,000
claim that the scientific community is
 

1465
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,110
claim that the scientific community is
being closed-minded when it objectively

1466
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:03,120
being closed-minded when it objectively
 

1467
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,190
being closed-minded when it objectively
isn't, and then pat himself on the back

1468
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:05,200
isn't, and then pat himself on the back
 

1469
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,190
isn't, and then pat himself on the back
for being the awesome rebel Galileo

1470
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:07,200
for being the awesome rebel Galileo
 

1471
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,590
for being the awesome rebel Galileo
fighting the dogmatic church. It's just

1472
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:09,600
fighting the dogmatic church. It's just
 

1473
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,990
fighting the dogmatic church. It's just
so played out. And he really has nothing

1474
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:12,000
so played out. And he really has nothing
 

1475
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,830
so played out. And he really has nothing
else. Videos like this dark comet could

1476
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:14,840
else. Videos like this dark comet could
 

1477
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,510
else. Videos like this dark comet could
be a spacecraft are just him describing

1478
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:17,520
be a spacecraft are just him describing
 

1479
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,110
be a spacecraft are just him describing
dark comets like 'Oumuamua and saying,

1480
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:20,120
dark comets like 'Oumuamua and saying,
 

1481
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,150
dark comets like 'Oumuamua and saying,
"But aliens maybe though." And nothing

1482
00:28:22,150 --> 00:28:22,160
"But aliens maybe though." And nothing
 

1483
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,150
"But aliens maybe though." And nothing
else. That's why he keeps returning to

1484
00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:24,160
else. That's why he keeps returning to
 

1485
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,710
else. That's why he keeps returning to
his Atlas grift. It was so juicy for him

1486
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:26,720
his Atlas grift. It was so juicy for him
 

1487
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,590
his Atlas grift. It was so juicy for him
that he just can't put it down. Let's

1488
00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:28,600
that he just can't put it down. Let's
 

1489
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,590
that he just can't put it down. Let's
examine one of his more recent videos on

1490
00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:30,600
examine one of his more recent videos on
 

1491
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,630
examine one of his more recent videos on
this object to see if he's updated his

1492
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:32,640
this object to see if he's updated his
 

1493
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,630
this object to see if he's updated his
script of lies. Did 3I Atlas deliver new

1494
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:35,640
script of lies. Did 3I Atlas deliver new
 

1495
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,110
script of lies. Did 3I Atlas deliver new
life into our solar system? Fascinating,

1496
00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:38,120
life into our solar system? Fascinating,
 

1497
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,830
life into our solar system? Fascinating,
I'm sure.

1498
00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:38,840
I'm sure.
 

1499
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,110
I'm sure.
>> The robust spectroscopic detection of

1500
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:41,120
>> The robust spectroscopic detection of
 

1501
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,830
>> The robust spectroscopic detection of
methane, CH4, was confirmed by the Webb

1502
00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:44,840
methane, CH4, was confirmed by the Webb
 

1503
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,510
methane, CH4, was confirmed by the Webb
telescope here.

1504
00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:46,520
telescope here.
 

1505
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,750
telescope here.
Interestingly, methane was only detected

1506
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:49,760
Interestingly, methane was only detected
 

1507
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,790
Interestingly, methane was only detected
after the passage of 3I/Atlas

1508
00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:52,800
after the passage of 3I/Atlas
 

1509
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,270
after the passage of 3I/Atlas
near the Sun.

1510
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:54,280
near the Sun.
 

1511
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,670
near the Sun.
Its delayed production is puzzling

1512
00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:56,680
Its delayed production is puzzling
 

1513
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,750
Its delayed production is puzzling
because methane ice is hypervolatile

1514
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:59,760
because methane ice is hypervolatile
 

1515
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,950
because methane ice is hypervolatile
with a significantly lower sublimation

1516
00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:01,960
with a significantly lower sublimation
 

1517
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,790
with a significantly lower sublimation
temperature than carbon dioxide CO2.

1518
00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:04,800
temperature than carbon dioxide CO2.
 

1519
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,910
temperature than carbon dioxide CO2.
>> And there's the setup. Why did Atlas

1520
00:29:06,910 --> 00:29:06,920
>> And there's the setup. Why did Atlas
 

1521
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,350
>> And there's the setup. Why did Atlas
only outgas methane near the Sun? It

1522
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:09,360
only outgas methane near the Sun? It
 

1523
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,110
only outgas methane near the Sun? It
should have outgassed way earlier.

1524
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:11,120
should have outgassed way earlier.
 

1525
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,990
should have outgassed way earlier.
Clearly, the only possible answer is

1526
00:29:12,990 --> 00:29:13,000
Clearly, the only possible answer is
 

1527
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,230
Clearly, the only possible answer is
aliens, right?

1528
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:14,240
aliens, right?
 

1529
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,470
aliens, right?
>> In the atmospheres of exoplanets,

1530
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:16,480
>> In the atmospheres of exoplanets,
 

1531
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,750
>> In the atmospheres of exoplanets,
methane is considered a prominent

1532
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:18,760
methane is considered a prominent
 

1533
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,590
methane is considered a prominent
biosignature. A recent publication in

1534
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:21,600
biosignature. A recent publication in
 

1535
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,270
biosignature. A recent publication in
the proceedings of the National Academy

1536
00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:23,280
the proceedings of the National Academy
 

1537
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,070
the proceedings of the National Academy
of Sciences PNAS here argued that

1538
00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:27,080
of Sciences PNAS here argued that
 

1539
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,110
of Sciences PNAS here argued that
methane could be the first detectable

1540
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:29,120
methane could be the first detectable
 

1541
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,910
methane could be the first detectable
indication of life beyond Earth.

1542
00:29:31,910 --> 00:29:31,920
indication of life beyond Earth.
 

1543
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,710
indication of life beyond Earth.
>> Yeah, it's considered a biosignature,

1544
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:33,720
>> Yeah, it's considered a biosignature,
 

1545
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,070
>> Yeah, it's considered a biosignature,
but not on its own. Only if it's not in

1546
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:36,080
but not on its own. Only if it's not in
 

1547
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,270
but not on its own. Only if it's not in
equilibrium and thus requires something

1548
00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:38,280
equilibrium and thus requires something
 

1549
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,350
equilibrium and thus requires something
to continually generate it, perhaps

1550
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:40,360
to continually generate it, perhaps
 

1551
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,070
to continually generate it, perhaps
life. Saturn's moon Titan has methane in

1552
00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:43,080
life. Saturn's moon Titan has methane in
 

1553
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,150
life. Saturn's moon Titan has methane in
its atmosphere. It doesn't prove that

1554
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:45,160
its atmosphere. It doesn't prove that
 

1555
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,030
its atmosphere. It doesn't prove that
life is there. This [\h__\h] knows

1556
00:29:47,030 --> 00:29:47,040
life is there. This [\h__\h] knows
 

1557
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,150
life is there. This [\h__\h] knows
literally nothing about astrobiology.

1558
00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:49,160
literally nothing about astrobiology.
 

1559
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,630
literally nothing about astrobiology.
>> This raises an important question. Was

1560
00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:51,640
>> This raises an important question. Was
 

1561
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,710
>> This raises an important question. Was
the methane outgassing of 3I/Atlas

1562
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:54,720
the methane outgassing of 3I/Atlas
 

1563
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,390
the methane outgassing of 3I/Atlas
near the Sun produced by life?

1564
00:29:58,390 --> 00:29:58,400
near the Sun produced by life?
 

1565
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,430
near the Sun produced by life?
>> Avi loves to play the just asking

1566
00:30:00,430 --> 00:30:00,440
>> Avi loves to play the just asking
 

1567
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,470
>> Avi loves to play the just asking
questions game, but he never honestly

1568
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:02,480
questions game, but he never honestly
 

1569
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,470
questions game, but he never honestly
answers the question. Could methane

1570
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:04,480
answers the question. Could methane
 

1571
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,070
answers the question. Could methane
outgassing only near the Sun mean aliens

1572
00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:07,080
outgassing only near the Sun mean aliens
 

1573
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,350
outgassing only near the Sun mean aliens
are there? Well, gee, should we try and

1574
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:09,360
are there? Well, gee, should we try and
 

1575
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,550
are there? Well, gee, should we try and
see if we can think of another

1576
00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:10,560
see if we can think of another
 

1577
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,350
see if we can think of another
explanation before jumping to that

1578
00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:12,360
explanation before jumping to that
 

1579
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,510
explanation before jumping to that
conclusion? Let's put on our thinking

1580
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:14,520
conclusion? Let's put on our thinking
 

1581
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,470
conclusion? Let's put on our thinking
caps. I know I'm just a stupid

1582
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:16,480
caps. I know I'm just a stupid
 

1583
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,190
caps. I know I'm just a stupid
non-professor with no PhDs at all, but

1584
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:19,200
non-professor with no PhDs at all, but
 

1585
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,470
non-professor with no PhDs at all, but
do you think I could give it a try, Avi?

1586
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:21,480
do you think I could give it a try, Avi?
 

1587
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,870
do you think I could give it a try, Avi?
What if, and this is a huge stretch, but

1588
00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:23,880
What if, and this is a huge stretch, but
 

1589
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,270
What if, and this is a huge stretch, but
see if you can follow me here. What if

1590
00:30:26,270 --> 00:30:26,280
see if you can follow me here. What if
 

1591
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,230
see if you can follow me here. What if
the methane wasn't just sitting on the

1592
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:28,240
the methane wasn't just sitting on the
 

1593
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,270
the methane wasn't just sitting on the
surface of the comet, but rather was

1594
00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:30,280
surface of the comet, but rather was
 

1595
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,670
surface of the comet, but rather was
buried beneath a layer of surface ice?

1596
00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:32,680
buried beneath a layer of surface ice?
 

1597
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,350
buried beneath a layer of surface ice?
So, when it got close to the Sun and

1598
00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:34,360
So, when it got close to the Sun and
 

1599
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,710
So, when it got close to the Sun and
that ice sublimed, then the methane

1600
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:36,720
that ice sublimed, then the methane
 

1601
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,310
that ice sublimed, then the methane
beneath was able to outgas as well. Does

1602
00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:39,320
beneath was able to outgas as well. Does
 

1603
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,070
beneath was able to outgas as well. Does
that make sense in your big powerful

1604
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:41,080
that make sense in your big powerful
 

1605
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,070
that make sense in your big powerful
brain, Avi? No, you're right. What am I

1606
00:30:43,070 --> 00:30:43,080
brain, Avi? No, you're right. What am I
 

1607
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,030
brain, Avi? No, you're right. What am I
talking about? It has to be aliens

1608
00:30:45,030 --> 00:30:45,040
talking about? It has to be aliens
 

1609
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,550
talking about? It has to be aliens
turning on their methane production

1610
00:30:46,550 --> 00:30:46,560
turning on their methane production
 

1611
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,710
turning on their methane production
machines near the sun because reasons.

1612
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:48,720
machines near the sun because reasons.
 

1613
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,550
machines near the sun because reasons.
Forgive me for speaking out of turn, oh

1614
00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:50,560
Forgive me for speaking out of turn, oh
 

1615
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,350
Forgive me for speaking out of turn, oh
wise and powerful reincarnation of

1616
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:52,360
wise and powerful reincarnation of
 

1617
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,470
wise and powerful reincarnation of
Galileo himself. Please continue.

1618
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:54,480
Galileo himself. Please continue.
 

1619
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,030
Galileo himself. Please continue.
>> The sunward jet, anti-tail material shed

1620
00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:58,040
>> The sunward jet, anti-tail material shed
 

1621
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,070
>> The sunward jet, anti-tail material shed
by 3I/ATLAS,

1622
00:31:00,070 --> 00:31:00,080
by 3I/ATLAS,
 

1623
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,870
by 3I/ATLAS,
could have carried extrasolar life on

1624
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:02,880
could have carried extrasolar life on
 

1625
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,710
could have carried extrasolar life on
dust or ice fragments towards habitable

1626
00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:05,720
dust or ice fragments towards habitable
 

1627
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,030
dust or ice fragments towards habitable
planets within the solar system.

1628
00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:08,040
planets within the solar system.
 

1629
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,990
planets within the solar system.
>> Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my

1630
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:10,000
>> Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my
 

1631
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,670
>> Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my
butt.

1632
00:31:10,670 --> 00:31:10,680
butt.
 

1633
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,510
butt.
>> A lot of things could happen, Avi.

1634
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:12,520
>> A lot of things could happen, Avi.
 

1635
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,390
>> A lot of things could happen, Avi.
Monkeys could fly out of Wayne's butt,

1636
00:31:14,390 --> 00:31:14,400
Monkeys could fly out of Wayne's butt,
 

1637
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,310
Monkeys could fly out of Wayne's butt,
for example. You're supposed to be a

1638
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:16,320
for example. You're supposed to be a
 

1639
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,910
for example. You're supposed to be a
scientist. You're supposed to be led by

1640
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:18,920
scientist. You're supposed to be led by
 

1641
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,070
scientist. You're supposed to be led by
evidence. And I'm not hearing a shred of

1642
00:31:21,070 --> 00:31:21,080
evidence. And I'm not hearing a shred of
 

1643
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,190
evidence. And I'm not hearing a shred of
evidence for this hot take about aliens

1644
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:23,200
evidence for this hot take about aliens
 

1645
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,470
evidence for this hot take about aliens
riding a comet. Tell it to Joe Rogan.

1646
00:31:25,470 --> 00:31:25,480
riding a comet. Tell it to Joe Rogan.
 

1647
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,270
riding a comet. Tell it to Joe Rogan.
Real scientists don't give a [\h__\h]

1648
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:27,280
Real scientists don't give a [\h__\h]
 

1649
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,830
Real scientists don't give a [\h__\h]
>> The large fragments of ice and rocks in

1650
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:29,840
>> The large fragments of ice and rocks in
 

1651
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,950
>> The large fragments of ice and rocks in
its sunward jet are suitable as delivery

1652
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:32,960
its sunward jet are suitable as delivery
 

1653
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,350
its sunward jet are suitable as delivery
vehicles of the seeds of extrasolar

1654
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:35,360
vehicles of the seeds of extrasolar
 

1655
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,430
vehicles of the seeds of extrasolar
life.

1656
00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:36,440
life.
 

1657
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,030
life.
I discussed the possibility of

1658
00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:38,040
I discussed the possibility of
 

1659
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,190
I discussed the possibility of
panspermia by the fragments shed from

1660
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:40,200
panspermia by the fragments shed from
 

1661
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,030
panspermia by the fragments shed from
3I/ATLAS

1662
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:42,040
3I/ATLAS
 

1663
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,790
3I/ATLAS
in a research note posted here on

1664
00:31:44,790 --> 00:31:44,800
in a research note posted here on
 

1665
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,710
in a research note posted here on
February 3rd, 2026.

1666
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:47,720
February 3rd, 2026.
 

1667
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,550
February 3rd, 2026.
>> Suitability is not evidence, ding-dong.

1668
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:50,560
>> Suitability is not evidence, ding-dong.
 

1669
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,870
>> Suitability is not evidence, ding-dong.
Your butt hole is suitable for smuggling

1670
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:52,880
Your butt hole is suitable for smuggling
 

1671
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,030
Your butt hole is suitable for smuggling
large amounts of drugs from one place to

1672
00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:55,040
large amounts of drugs from one place to
 

1673
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,030
large amounts of drugs from one place to
another. So, get ready for a cavity

1674
00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:57,040
another. So, get ready for a cavity
 

1675
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,470
another. So, get ready for a cavity
search since by your logic it's got to

1676
00:31:59,470 --> 00:31:59,480
search since by your logic it's got to
 

1677
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,430
search since by your logic it's got to
be bursting with heroin. What you're

1678
00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:01,440
be bursting with heroin. What you're
 

1679
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,390
be bursting with heroin. What you're
doing is called science fiction. Write a

1680
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:04,400
doing is called science fiction. Write a
 

1681
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,990
doing is called science fiction. Write a
script for Hollywood and leave the

1682
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:06,000
script for Hollywood and leave the
 

1683
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,030
script for Hollywood and leave the
science to the real scientists.

1684
00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:08,040
science to the real scientists.
 

1685
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,230
science to the real scientists.
>> This could be a fundamental discovery

1686
00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:11,240
>> This could be a fundamental discovery
 

1687
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,470
>> This could be a fundamental discovery
about our cosmic roots.

1688
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:14,480
about our cosmic roots.
 

1689
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,030
about our cosmic roots.
Not only that life exists elsewhere,

1690
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:18,040
Not only that life exists elsewhere,
 

1691
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,710
Not only that life exists elsewhere,
but interstellar gardeners may have

1692
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:20,720
but interstellar gardeners may have
 

1693
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,430
but interstellar gardeners may have
seeded our existence.

1694
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:23,440
seeded our existence.
 

1695
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,150
seeded our existence.
>> 2001 A Space Odyssey already did this.

1696
00:32:26,150 --> 00:32:26,160
>> 2001 A Space Odyssey already did this.
 

1697
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,830
>> 2001 A Space Odyssey already did this.
So did Prometheus in the Alien

1698
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:27,840
So did Prometheus in the Alien
 

1699
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,590
So did Prometheus in the Alien
franchise. Baselessly speculating as to

1700
00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:30,600
franchise. Baselessly speculating as to
 

1701
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,030
franchise. Baselessly speculating as to
what could be true is not how science

1702
00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:33,040
what could be true is not how science
 

1703
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,470
what could be true is not how science
works. Science runs on evidence, actual

1704
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:36,480
works. Science runs on evidence, actual
 

1705
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,270
works. Science runs on evidence, actual
tangible empirical evidence. You have

1706
00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:39,280
tangible empirical evidence. You have
 

1707
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,710
tangible empirical evidence. You have
none. This is clickbait nonsense, not

1708
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:41,720
none. This is clickbait nonsense, not
 

1709
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,310
none. This is clickbait nonsense, not
serious science. To be honest, it's not

1710
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:44,320
serious science. To be honest, it's not
 

1711
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,030
serious science. To be honest, it's not
really necessary to go through any more

1712
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:46,040
really necessary to go through any more
 

1713
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,030
really necessary to go through any more
of his recent content. It's all like

1714
00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:48,040
of his recent content. It's all like
 

1715
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,230
of his recent content. It's all like
this. It's just what if this thing I

1716
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:50,240
this. It's just what if this thing I
 

1717
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,390
this. It's just what if this thing I
pulled out of my ass, and then he treats

1718
00:32:52,390 --> 00:32:52,400
pulled out of my ass, and then he treats
 

1719
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,150
pulled out of my ass, and then he treats
it like real science that the scientific

1720
00:32:54,150 --> 00:32:54,160
it like real science that the scientific
 

1721
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,030
it like real science that the scientific
community should take seriously. And

1722
00:32:56,030 --> 00:32:56,040
community should take seriously. And
 

1723
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,670
community should take seriously. And
when they don't, it's because they're

1724
00:32:57,670 --> 00:32:57,680
when they don't, it's because they're
 

1725
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,950
when they don't, it's because they're
butt face losers that don't want to find

1726
00:32:59,950 --> 00:32:59,960
butt face losers that don't want to find
 

1727
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,070
butt face losers that don't want to find
aliens. It's beyond pathetic. Avi can't

1728
00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:03,080
aliens. It's beyond pathetic. Avi can't
 

1729
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,310
aliens. It's beyond pathetic. Avi can't
seem to identify a robust angle for

1730
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:05,320
seem to identify a robust angle for
 

1731
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,470
seem to identify a robust angle for
round four of his grifter playbook, and

1732
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:07,480
round four of his grifter playbook, and
 

1733
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,590
round four of his grifter playbook, and
perhaps he never will. Whereas his

1734
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:09,600
perhaps he never will. Whereas his
 

1735
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,670
perhaps he never will. Whereas his
antics with 'Oumuamua and the Bolide

1736
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:11,680
antics with 'Oumuamua and the Bolide
 

1737
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,870
antics with 'Oumuamua and the Bolide
attracted only mild condemnation from

1738
00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:13,880
attracted only mild condemnation from
 

1739
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,430
attracted only mild condemnation from
within academia, his [\h__\h] with Atlas

1740
00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:16,440
within academia, his [\h__\h] with Atlas
 

1741
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,550
within academia, his [\h__\h] with Atlas
has yielded enormous amounts of very

1742
00:33:18,550 --> 00:33:18,560
has yielded enormous amounts of very
 

1743
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,727
has yielded enormous amounts of very
public debunking,

1744
00:33:19,727 --> 00:33:19,737
public debunking,
 

1745
00:33:19,737 --> 00:33:19,790
public debunking,
>> [snorts]

1746
00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:19,800
>> [snorts]
 

1747
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,510
>> [snorts]
>> to the point where his credibility is

1748
00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:21,520
>> to the point where his credibility is
 

1749
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,710
>> to the point where his credibility is
now nearly nonexistent. And if you

1750
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:23,720
now nearly nonexistent. And if you
 

1751
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,430
now nearly nonexistent. And if you
aren't convinced, just look at these

1752
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:25,440
aren't convinced, just look at these
 

1753
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,990
aren't convinced, just look at these
view counts. Barely any of these videos

1754
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:28,000
view counts. Barely any of these videos
 

1755
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,590
view counts. Barely any of these videos
crack 10,000, and most are sitting at a

1756
00:33:30,590 --> 00:33:30,600
crack 10,000, and most are sitting at a
 

1757
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,750
crack 10,000, and most are sitting at a
couple thousand. Smart people smelled

1758
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:32,760
couple thousand. Smart people smelled
 

1759
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,630
couple thousand. Smart people smelled
[\h__\h] from the get-go, and even the

1760
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:34,640
[\h__\h] from the get-go, and even the
 

1761
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,470
[\h__\h] from the get-go, and even the
gullible ones got tired of the little

1762
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:36,480
gullible ones got tired of the little
 

1763
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,030
gullible ones got tired of the little
boy who cries aliens every 10 seconds.

1764
00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:39,040
boy who cries aliens every 10 seconds.
 

1765
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,710
boy who cries aliens every 10 seconds.
Truly, nobody cares anymore, and Avi is

1766
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:41,720
Truly, nobody cares anymore, and Avi is
 

1767
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,030
Truly, nobody cares anymore, and Avi is
freaking out about it. This is why he's

1768
00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:44,040
freaking out about it. This is why he's
 

1769
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,590
freaking out about it. This is why he's
become even more defensive. All he has

1770
00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:46,600
become even more defensive. All he has
 

1771
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,790
become even more defensive. All he has
are his pathetic media appearances and

1772
00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:48,800
are his pathetic media appearances and
 

1773
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,750
are his pathetic media appearances and
whining on podcasts about the people who

1774
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:50,760
whining on podcasts about the people who
 

1775
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,910
whining on podcasts about the people who
debunk him. Check out this video from a

1776
00:33:52,910 --> 00:33:52,920
debunk him. Check out this video from a
 

1777
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,510
debunk him. Check out this video from a
few months ago that contains a

1778
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:54,520
few months ago that contains a
 

1779
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,750
few months ago that contains a
ridiculous interaction between Avi and

1780
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:56,760
ridiculous interaction between Avi and
 

1781
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,550
ridiculous interaction between Avi and
Matt O'Dowd, an Australian

1782
00:33:58,550 --> 00:33:58,560
Matt O'Dowd, an Australian
 

1783
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,590
Matt O'Dowd, an Australian
astrophysicist and science communicator

1784
00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:00,600
astrophysicist and science communicator
 

1785
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,110
astrophysicist and science communicator
who hosts the PBS Space Time channel.

1786
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:03,120
who hosts the PBS Space Time channel.
 

1787
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,550
who hosts the PBS Space Time channel.
Matt very politely challenged Avi about

1788
00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:05,560
Matt very politely challenged Avi about
 

1789
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,390
Matt very politely challenged Avi about
his very obvious conclusion driven

1790
00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:07,400
his very obvious conclusion driven
 

1791
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,310
his very obvious conclusion driven
approach, as well as his claim that

1792
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:09,320
approach, as well as his claim that
 

1793
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,510
approach, as well as his claim that
nobody wants to find aliens but him.

1794
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:11,520
nobody wants to find aliens but him.
 

1795
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,510
nobody wants to find aliens but him.
While Avi just stared daggers at him

1796
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:13,520
While Avi just stared daggers at him
 

1797
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,830
While Avi just stared daggers at him
like a sociopath. Then when it was Avi's

1798
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:15,840
like a sociopath. Then when it was Avi's
 

1799
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,790
like a sociopath. Then when it was Avi's
turn, he decided to do this.

1800
00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:17,800
turn, he decided to do this.
 

1801
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,149
turn, he decided to do this.
>> You know, there there are two ways to

1802
00:34:19,149 --> 00:34:19,159
>> You know, there there are two ways to
 

1803
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,230
>> You know, there there are two ways to
approach science. One is to appear on

1804
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:22,240
approach science. One is to appear on
 

1805
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,909
approach science. One is to appear on
podcasts and claim to represent and

1806
00:34:24,909 --> 00:34:24,919
podcasts and claim to represent and
 

1807
00:34:24,919 --> 00:34:26,830
podcasts and claim to represent and
protect science

1808
00:34:26,830 --> 00:34:26,840
protect science
 

1809
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,590
protect science
from people

1810
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:28,600
from people
 

1811
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,270
from people
that may make statements that are not to

1812
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:31,280
that may make statements that are not to
 

1813
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,110
that may make statements that are not to
the taste of the mainstream of science.

1814
00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:34,120
the taste of the mainstream of science.
 

1815
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,710
the taste of the mainstream of science.
That's one approach.

1816
00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:35,720
That's one approach.
 

1817
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:36,190
That's one approach.
>> That's me.

1818
00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:36,200
>> That's me.
 

1819
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,869
>> That's me.
>> The second approach

1820
00:34:37,869 --> 00:34:37,879
>> The second approach
 

1821
00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:39,669
>> The second approach
I said that's one approach. If you want

1822
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:39,679
I said that's one approach. If you want
 

1823
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,430
I said that's one approach. If you want
to subscribe to it, you are welcome.

1824
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:41,440
to subscribe to it, you are welcome.
 

1825
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,590
to subscribe to it, you are welcome.
>> Yes, one way to approach science is to

1826
00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:43,600
>> Yes, one way to approach science is to
 

1827
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,710
>> Yes, one way to approach science is to
be a science communicator and defend the

1828
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:45,720
be a science communicator and defend the
 

1829
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,430
be a science communicator and defend the
scientific community from worthless

1830
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:47,440
scientific community from worthless
 

1831
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,389
scientific community from worthless
grifting piece of [\h__\h] frauds like you

1832
00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:49,399
grifting piece of [\h__\h] frauds like you
 

1833
00:34:49,399 --> 00:34:51,629
grifting piece of [\h__\h] frauds like you
who poison society with pseudoscience

1834
00:34:51,629 --> 00:34:51,639
who poison society with pseudoscience
 

1835
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,230
who poison society with pseudoscience
and polarize the public against

1836
00:34:53,230 --> 00:34:53,240
and polarize the public against
 

1837
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:55,350
and polarize the public against
legitimate sources of information. What

1838
00:34:55,350 --> 00:34:55,360
legitimate sources of information. What
 

1839
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,470
legitimate sources of information. What
you do is not to the taste of legitimate

1840
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:57,480
you do is not to the taste of legitimate
 

1841
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,830
you do is not to the taste of legitimate
scientists because your [\h__\h] makes

1842
00:34:59,830 --> 00:34:59,840
scientists because your [\h__\h] makes
 

1843
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,430
scientists because your [\h__\h] makes
it harder for them to both do their

1844
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:01,440
it harder for them to both do their
 

1845
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,830
it harder for them to both do their
science and publicize their legitimate

1846
00:35:03,830 --> 00:35:03,840
science and publicize their legitimate
 

1847
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,030
science and publicize their legitimate
work because no media outlet wants to

1848
00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:06,040
work because no media outlet wants to
 

1849
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,950
work because no media outlet wants to
hear about anything but [\h__\h] alien

1850
00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:07,960
hear about anything but [\h__\h] alien
 

1851
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,590
hear about anything but [\h__\h] alien
stories now. What's the other way, Avi?

1852
00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:10,600
stories now. What's the other way, Avi?
 

1853
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,630
stories now. What's the other way, Avi?
>> The second approach is to actually be in

1854
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:13,640
>> The second approach is to actually be in
 

1855
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,070
>> The second approach is to actually be in
the trenches and do the work of science

1856
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:16,080
the trenches and do the work of science
 

1857
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,030
the trenches and do the work of science
and that's much more work than sitting

1858
00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:18,040
and that's much more work than sitting
 

1859
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,830
and that's much more work than sitting
on a chair, speaking in a podcast, and

1860
00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:20,840
on a chair, speaking in a podcast, and
 

1861
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,550
on a chair, speaking in a podcast, and
leading the world's most popular

1862
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:22,560
leading the world's most popular
 

1863
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,190
leading the world's most popular
podcast. That's not the way to do

1864
00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:24,200
podcast. That's not the way to do
 

1865
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,230
podcast. That's not the way to do
science.

1866
00:35:25,230 --> 00:35:25,240
science.
 

1867
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,670
science.
>> Oh, really? Because all of your

1868
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:26,680
>> Oh, really? Because all of your
 

1869
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,150
>> Oh, really? Because all of your
illustrious work supporting your

1870
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:28,160
illustrious work supporting your
 

1871
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,230
illustrious work supporting your
[\h__\h] alien claims is done through

1872
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:30,240
[\h__\h] alien claims is done through
 

1873
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,790
[\h__\h] alien claims is done through
podcasts, blog posts, or shitty books

1874
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:32,800
podcasts, blog posts, or shitty books
 

1875
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,110
podcasts, blog posts, or shitty books
full of lies. What kinds of trenches are

1876
00:35:35,110 --> 00:35:35,120
full of lies. What kinds of trenches are
 

1877
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,190
full of lies. What kinds of trenches are
you claiming to inhabit there, champ?

1878
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:37,200
you claiming to inhabit there, champ?
 

1879
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,630
you claiming to inhabit there, champ?
First of all, Matt does have

1880
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:38,640
First of all, Matt does have
 

1881
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,750
First of all, Matt does have
publications. I know his 68 are no match

1882
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:41,760
publications. I know his 68 are no match
 

1883
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,870
publications. I know his 68 are no match
for your 11D gazillion, but you're

1884
00:35:43,870 --> 00:35:43,880
for your 11D gazillion, but you're
 

1885
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,790
for your 11D gazillion, but you're
pretending he's just a podcaster when

1886
00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:45,800
pretending he's just a podcaster when
 

1887
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,910
pretending he's just a podcaster when
he's a publishing scientist. But more

1888
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:47,920
he's a publishing scientist. But more
 

1889
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,950
he's a publishing scientist. But more
importantly, you have no legitimate

1890
00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:49,960
importantly, you have no legitimate
 

1891
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,550
importantly, you have no legitimate
scientific output supporting your

1892
00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:51,560
scientific output supporting your
 

1893
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,710
scientific output supporting your
outlandish claims. Publish whatever you

1894
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:53,720
outlandish claims. Publish whatever you
 

1895
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,550
outlandish claims. Publish whatever you
want on black holes and all the other

1896
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:55,560
want on black holes and all the other
 

1897
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,790
want on black holes and all the other
[\h__\h] you did to manufacture credibility

1898
00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:57,800
[\h__\h] you did to manufacture credibility
 

1899
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,830
[\h__\h] you did to manufacture credibility
in preparation for pivoting to a life of

1900
00:35:59,830 --> 00:35:59,840
in preparation for pivoting to a life of
 

1901
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,510
in preparation for pivoting to a life of
fraudulence. But when it comes to your

1902
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:01,520
fraudulence. But when it comes to your
 

1903
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,590
fraudulence. But when it comes to your
bread and butter alien [\h__\h] you're

1904
00:36:03,590 --> 00:36:03,600
bread and butter alien [\h__\h] you're
 

1905
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,550
bread and butter alien [\h__\h] you're
no better than Graham Hancock. You're a

1906
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:05,560
no better than Graham Hancock. You're a
 

1907
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,350
no better than Graham Hancock. You're a
nobody. You're a joke.

1908
00:36:07,350 --> 00:36:07,360
nobody. You're a joke.
 

1909
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,350
nobody. You're a joke.
>> The way to do science is to actually

1910
00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:10,360
>> The way to do science is to actually
 

1911
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,030
>> The way to do science is to actually
>> Wait a second.

1912
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:11,040
>> Wait a second.
 

1913
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,190
>> Wait a second.
>> You you spoke. I I have the right to to

1914
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:14,200
>> You you spoke. I I have the right to to
 

1915
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,510
>> You you spoke. I I have the right to to
finish my sentences.

1916
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:15,520
finish my sentences.
 

1917
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,030
finish my sentences.
>> Shut up, Matt. I have the right to

1918
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:17,040
>> Shut up, Matt. I have the right to
 

1919
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,310
>> Shut up, Matt. I have the right to
finish my sentences and Israel has the

1920
00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:19,320
finish my sentences and Israel has the
 

1921
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,390
finish my sentences and Israel has the
right to defend itself. You are beneath

1922
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:21,400
right to defend itself. You are beneath
 

1923
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,350
right to defend itself. You are beneath
me because I am the best and most honest

1924
00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:23,360
me because I am the best and most honest
 

1925
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,230
me because I am the best and most honest
scientist in the world, just like like

1926
00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:25,240
scientist in the world, just like like
 

1927
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,190
scientist in the world, just like like
IOF is the most moral army in the world.

1928
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:28,200
IOF is the most moral army in the world.
 

1929
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,750
IOF is the most moral army in the world.
[\h__\h] me, what an insufferable

1930
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:29,760
[\h__\h] me, what an insufferable
 

1931
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,030
[\h__\h] me, what an insufferable
gaslighting zio piece of [\h__\h] It's

1932
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:32,040
gaslighting zio piece of [\h__\h] It's
 

1933
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,710
gaslighting zio piece of [\h__\h] It's
incredible that Matt hasn't gotten up

1934
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:33,720
incredible that Matt hasn't gotten up
 

1935
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,630
incredible that Matt hasn't gotten up
and slapped him off his [\h__\h] seat by

1936
00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:35,640
and slapped him off his [\h__\h] seat by
 

1937
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,230
and slapped him off his [\h__\h] seat by
now.

1938
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:36,240
now.
 

1939
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:36,870
now.
>> [laughter]

1940
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:36,880
>> [laughter]
 

1941
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,270
>> [laughter]
>> The way to do science is to collect

1942
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:39,280
>> The way to do science is to collect
 

1943
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,070
>> The way to do science is to collect
evidence.

1944
00:36:41,070 --> 00:36:41,080
evidence.
 

1945
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,230
evidence.
Build observatories, collect data, and

1946
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:44,240
Build observatories, collect data, and
 

1947
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,910
Build observatories, collect data, and
get to the bottom of the question that

1948
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:45,920
get to the bottom of the question that
 

1949
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,230
get to the bottom of the question that
you're asking. And nobody, nobody within

1950
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:49,240
you're asking. And nobody, nobody within
 

1951
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,550
you're asking. And nobody, nobody within
the scientific community

1952
00:36:51,550 --> 00:36:51,560
the scientific community
 

1953
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,270
the scientific community
has the right to say

1954
00:36:54,270 --> 00:36:54,280
has the right to say
 

1955
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,750
has the right to say
that this pursuit of evidence

1956
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:57,760
that this pursuit of evidence
 

1957
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,030
that this pursuit of evidence
is illegitimate.

1958
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:59,040
is illegitimate.
 

1959
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,150
is illegitimate.
>> No one is saying your pursuit of science

1960
00:37:01,150 --> 00:37:01,160
>> No one is saying your pursuit of science
 

1961
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,310
>> No one is saying your pursuit of science
is illegitimate, you dildo. They say

1962
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:03,320
is illegitimate, you dildo. They say
 

1963
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,590
is illegitimate, you dildo. They say
that your conclusions are illegitimate

1964
00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:05,600
that your conclusions are illegitimate
 

1965
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,150
that your conclusions are illegitimate
because you're lying literally always.

1966
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:08,160
because you're lying literally always.
 

1967
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,830
because you're lying literally always.
Nobody is asserting that you're not

1968
00:37:09,830 --> 00:37:09,840
Nobody is asserting that you're not
 

1969
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,590
Nobody is asserting that you're not
allowed to say, "Hmm, maybe aliens." But

1970
00:37:12,590 --> 00:37:12,600
allowed to say, "Hmm, maybe aliens." But
 

1971
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,470
allowed to say, "Hmm, maybe aliens." But
when you spew a bunch of objective

1972
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:14,480
when you spew a bunch of objective
 

1973
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,630
when you spew a bunch of objective
falsehoods to support your predetermined

1974
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:16,640
falsehoods to support your predetermined
 

1975
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,590
falsehoods to support your predetermined
conclusion to make money off of gullible

1976
00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:18,600
conclusion to make money off of gullible
 

1977
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,990
conclusion to make money off of gullible
people, that's when legitimate scholars

1978
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:21,000
people, that's when legitimate scholars
 

1979
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,950
people, that's when legitimate scholars
are going to have a few words for you.

1980
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:22,960
are going to have a few words for you.
 

1981
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,710
are going to have a few words for you.
You keep whining about collecting

1982
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:24,720
You keep whining about collecting
 

1983
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,710
You keep whining about collecting
evidence, but you have no evidence for

1984
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:26,720
evidence, but you have no evidence for
 

1985
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,870
evidence, but you have no evidence for
your claims. The evidence debunks your

1986
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:28,880
your claims. The evidence debunks your
 

1987
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,790
your claims. The evidence debunks your
claims every time. So yes, Avi, your

1988
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:31,800
claims every time. So yes, Avi, your
 

1989
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,830
claims every time. So yes, Avi, your
pursuit of a desired conclusion

1990
00:37:33,830 --> 00:37:33,840
pursuit of a desired conclusion
 

1991
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,430
pursuit of a desired conclusion
regardless of reality is illegitimate.

1992
00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:36,440
regardless of reality is illegitimate.
 

1993
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,950
regardless of reality is illegitimate.
That's not how science works. Collecting

1994
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:38,960
That's not how science works. Collecting
 

1995
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,790
That's not how science works. Collecting
ancient pebbles from the bottom of the

1996
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:40,800
ancient pebbles from the bottom of the
 

1997
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,830
ancient pebbles from the bottom of the
ocean and calling them pieces of a

1998
00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:42,840
ocean and calling them pieces of a
 

1999
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,870
ocean and calling them pieces of a
spaceship that crashed a few years ago

2000
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:44,880
spaceship that crashed a few years ago
 

2001
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,190
spaceship that crashed a few years ago
because Netflix cameras are filming you

2002
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:47,200
because Netflix cameras are filming you
 

2003
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,630
because Netflix cameras are filming you
isn't how science works. Cry forever

2004
00:37:49,630 --> 00:37:49,640
isn't how science works. Cry forever
 

2005
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,070
isn't how science works. Cry forever
about it.

2006
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:51,080
about it.
 

2007
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,910
about it.
All right, how shall we wrap this one

2008
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:52,920
All right, how shall we wrap this one
 

2009
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,270
All right, how shall we wrap this one
up? Ooh, I know. Let's talk to Thomas

2010
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:55,280
up? Ooh, I know. Let's talk to Thomas
 

2011
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,670
up? Ooh, I know. Let's talk to Thomas
Puzia, a Chilean astrophysicist with

2012
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:57,680
Puzia, a Chilean astrophysicist with
 

2013
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,870
Puzia, a Chilean astrophysicist with
hundreds of publications who actually

2014
00:37:59,870 --> 00:37:59,880
hundreds of publications who actually
 

2015
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,950
hundreds of publications who actually
gathered data on 3I Atlas. Avi loves

2016
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:02,960
gathered data on 3I Atlas. Avi loves
 

2017
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,510
gathered data on 3I Atlas. Avi loves
scientists who get in the trenches,

2018
00:38:04,510 --> 00:38:04,520
scientists who get in the trenches,
 

2019
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,390
scientists who get in the trenches,
right? Which is ironic since he has

2020
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:06,400
right? Which is ironic since he has
 

2021
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,510
right? Which is ironic since he has
never personally gathered a single datum

2022
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:08,520
never personally gathered a single datum
 

2023
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,910
never personally gathered a single datum
on Atlas or 'Oumuamua. He just lied a

2024
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:10,920
on Atlas or 'Oumuamua. He just lied a
 

2025
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,310
on Atlas or 'Oumuamua. He just lied a
whole lot in blog posts about publicly

2026
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:13,320
whole lot in blog posts about publicly
 

2027
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,390
whole lot in blog posts about publicly
shared data that other people collected.

2028
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:15,400
shared data that other people collected.
 

2029
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,110
shared data that other people collected.
So even Avi would have to admit that

2030
00:38:17,110 --> 00:38:17,120
So even Avi would have to admit that
 

2031
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,030
So even Avi would have to admit that
Thomas is way more qualified than him to

2032
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:19,040
Thomas is way more qualified than him to
 

2033
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,670
Thomas is way more qualified than him to
talk about this stuff. In fact, Thomas's

2034
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:21,680
talk about this stuff. In fact, Thomas's
 

2035
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,750
talk about this stuff. In fact, Thomas's
group specifically discovered the nickel

2036
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:23,760
group specifically discovered the nickel
 

2037
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,030
group specifically discovered the nickel
and later iron emissions from Atlas that

2038
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:26,040
and later iron emissions from Atlas that
 

2039
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,950
and later iron emissions from Atlas that
Avi was lying about in order to pretend

2040
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:27,960
Avi was lying about in order to pretend
 

2041
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,030
Avi was lying about in order to pretend
it was a spaceship. We talked about this

2042
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:30,040
it was a spaceship. We talked about this
 

2043
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,870
it was a spaceship. We talked about this
in the last video, but since I'm just a

2044
00:38:31,870 --> 00:38:31,880
in the last video, but since I'm just a
 

2045
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,390
in the last video, but since I'm just a
lowly YouTube personality, it'll be much

2046
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:34,400
lowly YouTube personality, it'll be much
 

2047
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,790
lowly YouTube personality, it'll be much
better to get this stuff straight from

2048
00:38:35,790 --> 00:38:35,800
better to get this stuff straight from
 

2049
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,390
better to get this stuff straight from
the source, right? Let's chat with

2050
00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:37,400
the source, right? Let's chat with
 

2051
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,790
the source, right? Let's chat with
Thomas now.

2052
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:38,800
Thomas now.
 

2053
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,750
Thomas now.
Thomas, thanks so much for joining us.

2054
00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:40,760
Thomas, thanks so much for joining us.
 

2055
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,110
Thomas, thanks so much for joining us.
Um why don't you just start? Maybe tell

2056
00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:42,120
Um why don't you just start? Maybe tell
 

2057
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,870
Um why don't you just start? Maybe tell
us a little bit about your research and

2058
00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:43,880
us a little bit about your research and
 

2059
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,550
us a little bit about your research and
the variety of phenomena that you study.

2060
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:46,560
the variety of phenomena that you study.
 

2061
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,270
the variety of phenomena that you study.
>> Sure. Um well, so I'm Thomas Puzyo uh

2062
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:50,280
>> Sure. Um well, so I'm Thomas Puzyo uh
 

2063
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,310
>> Sure. Um well, so I'm Thomas Puzyo uh
from the Institute of Astrophysics and

2064
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:52,320
from the Institute of Astrophysics and
 

2065
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,470
from the Institute of Astrophysics and
at the Catholic University Pontificia

2066
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:54,480
at the Catholic University Pontificia
 

2067
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,430
at the Catholic University Pontificia
Universidad Católica in Santiago de

2068
00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:56,440
Universidad Católica in Santiago de
 

2069
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,470
Universidad Católica in Santiago de
Chile and um

2070
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:58,480
Chile and um
 

2071
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,470
Chile and um
my team and I, we've been heavily

2072
00:39:00,470 --> 00:39:00,480
my team and I, we've been heavily
 

2073
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,150
my team and I, we've been heavily
involved in studying 3I Atlas uh from

2074
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:04,160
involved in studying 3I Atlas uh from
 

2075
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,230
involved in studying 3I Atlas uh from
its basic discovery uh last July last

2076
00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:07,240
its basic discovery uh last July last
 

2077
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,710
its basic discovery uh last July last
year July.

2078
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:08,720
year July.
 

2079
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,950
year July.
Um

2080
00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:09,960
Um
 

2081
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,670
Um
we came in um with the expertise of

2082
00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:12,680
we came in um with the expertise of
 

2083
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,710
we came in um with the expertise of
spectroscopy. So, you know, we do a lot

2084
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:14,720
spectroscopy. So, you know, we do a lot
 

2085
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,830
spectroscopy. So, you know, we do a lot
of spectroscopy of galaxies and stars

2086
00:39:16,830 --> 00:39:16,840
of spectroscopy of galaxies and stars
 

2087
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,350
of spectroscopy of galaxies and stars
and and so um I dabbled a little bit

2088
00:39:19,350 --> 00:39:19,360
and and so um I dabbled a little bit
 

2089
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,510
and and so um I dabbled a little bit
before in um surface reflectivity of

2090
00:39:22,510 --> 00:39:22,520
before in um surface reflectivity of
 

2091
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,190
before in um surface reflectivity of
asteroids in the solar system in the

2092
00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:24,200
asteroids in the solar system in the
 

2093
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,390
asteroids in the solar system in the
outskirts of the solar system with

2094
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:26,400
outskirts of the solar system with
 

2095
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,510
outskirts of the solar system with
uh several of my colleagues.

2096
00:39:28,510 --> 00:39:28,520
uh several of my colleagues.
 

2097
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,830
uh several of my colleagues.
And so, it was a natural, you know,

2098
00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:30,840
And so, it was a natural, you know,
 

2099
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,190
And so, it was a natural, you know,
segue basically to go and um

2100
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:34,200
segue basically to go and um
 

2101
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,910
segue basically to go and um
take advantage of all the observing

2102
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:35,920
take advantage of all the observing
 

2103
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,830
take advantage of all the observing
power that we have here in Chile. And

2104
00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:37,840
power that we have here in Chile. And
 

2105
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,790
power that we have here in Chile. And
and our, you know, our group was in this

2106
00:39:39,790 --> 00:39:39,800
and our, you know, our group was in this
 

2107
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,550
and our, you know, our group was in this
prime location in space and time to to

2108
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:43,560
prime location in space and time to to
 

2109
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,630
prime location in space and time to to
tap into this uh um available observing

2110
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:46,640
tap into this uh um available observing
 

2111
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,830
tap into this uh um available observing
time on really like the the largest

2112
00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:48,840
time on really like the the largest
 

2113
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,310
time on really like the the largest
telescopes, most advanced

2114
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:50,320
telescopes, most advanced
 

2115
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,430
telescopes, most advanced
instrumentation in the world.

2116
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:52,440
instrumentation in the world.
 

2117
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,110
instrumentation in the world.
Um and we got uh basically to monitor uh

2118
00:39:56,110 --> 00:39:56,120
Um and we got uh basically to monitor uh
 

2119
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,550
Um and we got uh basically to monitor uh
3I Atlas as it passed through the solar

2120
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:58,560
3I Atlas as it passed through the solar
 

2121
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,230
3I Atlas as it passed through the solar
system. Um so, from, you know, some

2122
00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:01,240
system. Um so, from, you know, some
 

2123
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,390
system. Um so, from, you know, some
somewhere around like 4 AU to perihelion

2124
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:04,400
somewhere around like 4 AU to perihelion
 

2125
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,310
somewhere around like 4 AU to perihelion
and and post-perihelion. And so, we took

2126
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:06,320
and and post-perihelion. And so, we took
 

2127
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,870
and and post-perihelion. And so, we took
spectra, we took imaging, we tried a

2128
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:08,880
spectra, we took imaging, we tried a
 

2129
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,790
spectra, we took imaging, we tried a
little bit of um interferometry in the

2130
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:10,800
little bit of um interferometry in the
 

2131
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,990
little bit of um interferometry in the
optical with uh with VLTI. And that

2132
00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:13,000
optical with uh with VLTI. And that
 

2133
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,750
optical with uh with VLTI. And that
didn't work out as we thought for, you

2134
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:15,760
didn't work out as we thought for, you
 

2135
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,150
didn't work out as we thought for, you
know, technical reasons, but we learned

2136
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:17,160
know, technical reasons, but we learned
 

2137
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,350
know, technical reasons, but we learned
a lot.

2138
00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:18,360
a lot.
 

2139
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,790
a lot.
And so, we have this treasure trove of

2140
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:19,800
And so, we have this treasure trove of
 

2141
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,190
And so, we have this treasure trove of
data now that we are, you know, actively

2142
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:23,200
data now that we are, you know, actively
 

2143
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,990
data now that we are, you know, actively
investigating now.

2144
00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:25,000
investigating now.
 

2145
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,670
investigating now.
And so, my team and and I, we we have

2146
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:27,680
And so, my team and and I, we we have
 

2147
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,150
And so, my team and and I, we we have
several papers lined up already

2148
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:30,160
several papers lined up already
 

2149
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,830
several papers lined up already
to to basically evidence how the

2150
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:32,840
to to basically evidence how the
 

2151
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,150
to to basically evidence how the
chemical evolution of this really really

2152
00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:35,160
chemical evolution of this really really
 

2153
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,390
chemical evolution of this really really
interesting target is is progressing

2154
00:40:37,390 --> 00:40:37,400
interesting target is is progressing
 

2155
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,550
interesting target is is progressing
through its journey in the solar system.

2156
00:40:39,550 --> 00:40:39,560
through its journey in the solar system.
 

2157
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,230
through its journey in the solar system.
>> That's fantastic. Yeah, I one thing I've

2158
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:41,240
>> That's fantastic. Yeah, I one thing I've
 

2159
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,950
>> That's fantastic. Yeah, I one thing I've
tried to make clear on on previous

2160
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:42,960
tried to make clear on on previous
 

2161
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,150
tried to make clear on on previous
content on Avi is that um

2162
00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:45,160
content on Avi is that um
 

2163
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,790
content on Avi is that um
there you know, astronomers and

2164
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:46,800
there you know, astronomers and
 

2165
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,590
there you know, astronomers and
astrophysicists have different areas of

2166
00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:48,600
astrophysicists have different areas of
 

2167
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,910
astrophysicists have different areas of
study. And so, somebody who is an expert

2168
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:50,920
study. And so, somebody who is an expert
 

2169
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,830
study. And so, somebody who is an expert
on black holes or quasars or something

2170
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:52,840
on black holes or quasars or something
 

2171
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,870
on black holes or quasars or something
like that, that's very you know, a

2172
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:54,880
like that, that's very you know, a
 

2173
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,870
like that, that's very you know, a
research group that is actively studying

2174
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:56,880
research group that is actively studying
 

2175
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,150
research group that is actively studying
comets and and gathering data on comets.

2176
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:59,160
comets and and gathering data on comets.
 

2177
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,590
comets and and gathering data on comets.
These are these are the researchers that

2178
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:01,600
These are these are the researchers that
 

2179
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,630
These are these are the researchers that
are the experts on comets. And and so,

2180
00:41:03,630 --> 00:41:03,640
are the experts on comets. And and so,
 

2181
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,510
are the experts on comets. And and so,
everything about their trajectory and

2182
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:05,520
everything about their trajectory and
 

2183
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,830
everything about their trajectory and
and studying their composition and

2184
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:06,840
and studying their composition and
 

2185
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,470
and studying their composition and
things like that, these are the people

2186
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:08,480
things like that, these are the people
 

2187
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,630
things like that, these are the people
that we should we should be listening to

2188
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:09,640
that we should we should be listening to
 

2189
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,550
that we should we should be listening to
first and foremost when it comes to a

2190
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:11,560
first and foremost when it comes to a
 

2191
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,150
first and foremost when it comes to a
comet. Um and you are actually gathering

2192
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:14,160
comet. Um and you are actually gathering
 

2193
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,710
comet. Um and you are actually gathering
data uh on on this object. Um so, just

2194
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:17,720
data uh on on this object. Um so, just
 

2195
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,190
data uh on on this object. Um so, just
pivoting over to Avi, I I want to talk

2196
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:19,200
pivoting over to Avi, I I want to talk
 

2197
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,110
pivoting over to Avi, I I want to talk
about obviously his interpretation of

2198
00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:21,120
about obviously his interpretation of
 

2199
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,190
about obviously his interpretation of
Atlas.

2200
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:22,200
Atlas.
 

2201
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,870
Atlas.
Um and so, him being someone who did not

2202
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:24,880
Um and so, him being someone who did not
 

2203
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,710
Um and so, him being someone who did not
gather any data first-hand on on Atlas,

2204
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:27,720
gather any data first-hand on on Atlas,
 

2205
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,990
gather any data first-hand on on Atlas,
he's he's going by uh publicly available

2206
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:30,000
he's he's going by uh publicly available
 

2207
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,110
he's he's going by uh publicly available
data from research groups like yours.

2208
00:41:32,110 --> 00:41:32,120
data from research groups like yours.
 

2209
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,270
data from research groups like yours.
What uh when did you first become aware

2210
00:41:34,270 --> 00:41:34,280
What uh when did you first become aware
 

2211
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,750
What uh when did you first become aware
of Avi and what was your initial

2212
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:35,760
of Avi and what was your initial
 

2213
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,470
of Avi and what was your initial
impression? Was it it him talking about

2214
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:37,480
impression? Was it it him talking about
 

2215
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,990
impression? Was it it him talking about
Atlas or was it previous to that or what

2216
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:40,000
Atlas or was it previous to that or what
 

2217
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,910
Atlas or was it previous to that or what
what uh when did you hear about him?

2218
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:41,920
what uh when did you hear about him?
 

2219
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,150
what uh when did you hear about him?
>> Yeah, actually I I know Avi quite long

2220
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:45,160
>> Yeah, actually I I know Avi quite long
 

2221
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,790
>> Yeah, actually I I know Avi quite long
time. Um so, we bumped into each other

2222
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:48,800
time. Um so, we bumped into each other
 

2223
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,390
time. Um so, we bumped into each other
at a winter school. Um I think it was

2224
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:51,400
at a winter school. Um I think it was
 

2225
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,710
at a winter school. Um I think it was
like

2226
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:52,720
like
 

2227
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,990
like
the end of '90s 1900s.

2228
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:56,000
the end of '90s 1900s.
 

2229
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,710
the end of '90s 1900s.
>> Okay, yeah.

2230
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:56,720
>> Okay, yeah.
 

2231
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:57,110
>> Okay, yeah.
>> Um

2232
00:41:57,110 --> 00:41:57,120
>> Um
 

2233
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,230
>> Um
>> The last century.

2234
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:58,240
>> The last century.
 

2235
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,470
>> The last century.
>> The last cen- the last millennium even.

2236
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:00,480
>> The last cen- the last millennium even.
 

2237
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,430
>> The last cen- the last millennium even.
>> Yeah.

2238
00:42:01,430 --> 00:42:01,440
>> Yeah.
 

2239
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,550
>> Yeah.
>> And uh and at that time he was he was

2240
00:42:03,550 --> 00:42:03,560
>> And uh and at that time he was he was
 

2241
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,510
>> And uh and at that time he was he was
working um on the high redshift universe

2242
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:05,520
working um on the high redshift universe
 

2243
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,790
working um on the high redshift universe
on, you know, first stars, black holes.

2244
00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:07,800
on, you know, first stars, black holes.
 

2245
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,750
on, you know, first stars, black holes.
And I really um I was inspired by him.

2246
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:10,760
And I really um I was inspired by him.
 

2247
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,350
And I really um I was inspired by him.
It was really amazing what they know the

2248
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:13,360
It was really amazing what they know the
 

2249
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,070
It was really amazing what they know the
the the insights and and progress that

2250
00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:15,080
the the insights and and progress that
 

2251
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,350
the the insights and and progress that
he delivered and and published and so

2252
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:17,360
he delivered and and published and so
 

2253
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,630
he delivered and and published and so
the papers at that time were really

2254
00:42:19,630 --> 00:42:19,640
the papers at that time were really
 

2255
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,950
the papers at that time were really
um I would say groundbreaking and and

2256
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:21,960
um I would say groundbreaking and and
 

2257
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,390
um I would say groundbreaking and and
and progressive and and and we learned

2258
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:24,400
and progressive and and and we learned
 

2259
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,110
and progressive and and and we learned
together a lot. Um I was very inspired

2260
00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:27,120
together a lot. Um I was very inspired
 

2261
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,310
together a lot. Um I was very inspired
in my field of research by this um

2262
00:42:30,310 --> 00:42:30,320
in my field of research by this um
 

2263
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,550
in my field of research by this um
and and so

2264
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:32,560
and and so
 

2265
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,710
and and so
I admire Avi's intellect really and and

2266
00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:35,720
I admire Avi's intellect really and and
 

2267
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,030
I admire Avi's intellect really and and
I admire his uh his contributions to

2268
00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:38,040
I admire his uh his contributions to
 

2269
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,470
I admire his uh his contributions to
astrophysics.

2270
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:39,480
astrophysics.
 

2271
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,470
astrophysics.
Um but uh as we moved into this into

2272
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:44,480
Um but uh as we moved into this into
 

2273
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,270
Um but uh as we moved into this into
this latest um

2274
00:42:46,270 --> 00:42:46,280
this latest um
 

2275
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,190
this latest um
let's say advance in in his studies of

2276
00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:50,200
let's say advance in in his studies of
 

2277
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,390
let's say advance in in his studies of
interstellar objects and

2278
00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:53,400
interstellar objects and
 

2279
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,510
interstellar objects and
you know, un- unknown phenomena in the

2280
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:55,520
you know, un- unknown phenomena in the
 

2281
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,230
you know, un- unknown phenomena in the
sky, um

2282
00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:57,240
sky, um
 

2283
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,710
sky, um
things got a little bit out of uh the

2284
00:42:59,710 --> 00:42:59,720
things got a little bit out of uh the
 

2285
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,510
things got a little bit out of uh the
scientific uh rail and

2286
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:03,520
scientific uh rail and
 

2287
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,350
scientific uh rail and
and and so my feeling is

2288
00:43:07,350 --> 00:43:07,360
and and so my feeling is
 

2289
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,830
and and so my feeling is
that Avi first um

2290
00:43:09,830 --> 00:43:09,840
that Avi first um
 

2291
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,390
that Avi first um
you know, like you correctly said, he

2292
00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:11,400
you know, like you correctly said, he
 

2293
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,190
you know, like you correctly said, he
never takes data. I mean, he has this

2294
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:13,200
never takes data. I mean, he has this
 

2295
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,110
never takes data. I mean, he has this
Galileo Project, but but of course

2296
00:43:15,110 --> 00:43:15,120
Galileo Project, but but of course
 

2297
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,910
Galileo Project, but but of course
that's that's nowhere near enough

2298
00:43:16,910 --> 00:43:16,920
that's that's nowhere near enough
 

2299
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,950
that's that's nowhere near enough
observing power to study interstellar

2300
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:18,960
observing power to study interstellar
 

2301
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,670
observing power to study interstellar
objects in

2302
00:43:20,670 --> 00:43:20,680
objects in
 

2303
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,110
objects in
any, you know, sensible way unless they

2304
00:43:23,110 --> 00:43:23,120
any, you know, sensible way unless they
 

2305
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,310
any, you know, sensible way unless they
pass really close to Earth and then are

2306
00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:25,320
pass really close to Earth and then are
 

2307
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,950
pass really close to Earth and then are
really bright and then everyone, you

2308
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:26,960
really bright and then everyone, you
 

2309
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,470
really bright and then everyone, you
know, every amateur astronomer would

2310
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:28,480
know, every amateur astronomer would
 

2311
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,790
know, every amateur astronomer would
probably get

2312
00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:29,800
probably get
 

2313
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,710
probably get
you know, equivalent data with the with

2314
00:43:31,710 --> 00:43:31,720
you know, equivalent data with the with
 

2315
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,270
you know, equivalent data with the with
the observation

2316
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:33,280
the observation
 

2317
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,790
the observation
um capabilities that they have built up.

2318
00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:35,800
um capabilities that they have built up.
 

2319
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,550
um capabilities that they have built up.
Um

2320
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:36,560
Um
 

2321
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,470
Um
So so he's, you know, he's naturally

2322
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:39,480
So so he's, you know, he's naturally
 

2323
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,230
So so he's, you know, he's naturally
like every other scientist also um

2324
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:42,240
like every other scientist also um
 

2325
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,190
like every other scientist also um
commenting on data that other people

2326
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:45,200
commenting on data that other people
 

2327
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,710
commenting on data that other people
have taken.

2328
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:46,720
have taken.
 

2329
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,950
have taken.
Uh which is fine, right? But I think um

2330
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:50,960
Uh which is fine, right? But I think um
 

2331
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,230
Uh which is fine, right? But I think um
I think there is a there is a step too

2332
00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:53,240
I think there is a there is a step too
 

2333
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:54,830
I think there is a there is a step too
too much in in terms of

2334
00:43:54,830 --> 00:43:54,840
too much in in terms of
 

2335
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,030
too much in in terms of
over-interpreting results from from

2336
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:57,040
over-interpreting results from from
 

2337
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,350
over-interpreting results from from
people um in a in a very non-scientific

2338
00:43:59,350 --> 00:43:59,360
people um in a in a very non-scientific
 

2339
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,950
people um in a in a very non-scientific
way, right? So

2340
00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:00,960
way, right? So
 

2341
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,230
way, right? So
um

2342
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:02,240
um
 

2343
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,550
um
he he

2344
00:44:03,550 --> 00:44:03,560
he he
 

2345
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,670
he he
the claims and that there is evidence

2346
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:05,680
the claims and that there is evidence
 

2347
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,510
the claims and that there is evidence
and the absence of this proof, right,

2348
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:07,520
and the absence of this proof, right,
 

2349
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,230
and the absence of this proof, right,
isn't evidence. And and Avi is

2350
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:09,240
isn't evidence. And and Avi is
 

2351
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,070
isn't evidence. And and Avi is
presenting always this

2352
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:11,080
presenting always this
 

2353
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,510
presenting always this
uh the possibility space as evidence,

2354
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:13,520
uh the possibility space as evidence,
 

2355
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,230
uh the possibility space as evidence,
which is which is definitely not the

2356
00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:15,240
which is which is definitely not the
 

2357
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,750
which is which is definitely not the
case. And and so, we have to be very

2358
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:16,760
case. And and so, we have to be very
 

2359
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,270
case. And and so, we have to be very
careful with um

2360
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:19,280
careful with um
 

2361
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,470
careful with um
curbing that kind of thinking

2362
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:21,480
curbing that kind of thinking
 

2363
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,310
curbing that kind of thinking
um from the clean scientific

2364
00:44:24,310 --> 00:44:24,320
um from the clean scientific
 

2365
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,270
um from the clean scientific
evidence-based uh progression of of our

2366
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:27,280
evidence-based uh progression of of our
 

2367
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,950
evidence-based uh progression of of our
understanding of the universe. Um I

2368
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:28,960
understanding of the universe. Um I
 

2369
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,830
understanding of the universe. Um I
mean, everything is possible, right? But

2370
00:44:30,830 --> 00:44:30,840
mean, everything is possible, right? But
 

2371
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,590
mean, everything is possible, right? But
until you prove it with evidence,

2372
00:44:33,590 --> 00:44:33,600
until you prove it with evidence,
 

2373
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,190
until you prove it with evidence,
um it's just science fiction. It's just

2374
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:36,200
um it's just science fiction. It's just
 

2375
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,830
um it's just science fiction. It's just
a story. And yeah.

2376
00:44:37,830 --> 00:44:37,840
a story. And yeah.
 

2377
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,230
a story. And yeah.
Yeah, it might be an interesting story,

2378
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:39,240
Yeah, it might be an interesting story,
 

2379
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,830
Yeah, it might be an interesting story,
and many people pick it up, and and

2380
00:44:40,830 --> 00:44:40,840
and many people pick it up, and and
 

2381
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,630
and many people pick it up, and and
that's fine. We can discuss

2382
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:42,640
that's fine. We can discuss
 

2383
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,590
that's fine. We can discuss
>> It could make a great script

2384
00:44:44,590 --> 00:44:44,600
>> It could make a great script
 

2385
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,430
>> It could make a great script
>> Exactly, right?

2386
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:45,440
>> Exactly, right?
 

2387
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,310
>> Exactly, right?
>> Great script for Hollywood.

2388
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:47,320
>> Great script for Hollywood.
 

2389
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,790
>> Great script for Hollywood.
>> Hollywood would be very interested in

2390
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:48,800
>> Hollywood would be very interested in
 

2391
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,510
>> Hollywood would be very interested in
that, yes. And

2392
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:50,520
that, yes. And
 

2393
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,430
that, yes. And
um but but it has nothing to do with

2394
00:44:52,430 --> 00:44:52,440
um but but it has nothing to do with
 

2395
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,110
um but but it has nothing to do with
science.

2396
00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:53,120
science.
 

2397
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,550
science.
>> Right. So, what let let's get into the

2398
00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:55,560
>> Right. So, what let let's get into the
 

2399
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,110
>> Right. So, what let let's get into the
specifics here, because we were

2400
00:44:57,110 --> 00:44:57,120
specifics here, because we were
 

2401
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,550
specifics here, because we were
initially corresponding about a

2402
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:58,560
initially corresponding about a
 

2403
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,710
initially corresponding about a
particular uh feature of Atlas. Um

2404
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:02,720
particular uh feature of Atlas. Um
 

2405
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,070
particular uh feature of Atlas. Um
Avi had made a big stink about the uh

2406
00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:05,080
Avi had made a big stink about the uh
 

2407
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,030
Avi had made a big stink about the uh
iron and nickel, the ratios of iron and

2408
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:07,040
iron and nickel, the ratios of iron and
 

2409
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,670
iron and nickel, the ratios of iron and
nickel. And so, I was learning about,

2410
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:09,680
nickel. And so, I was learning about,
 

2411
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,630
nickel. And so, I was learning about,
you know, th- this was one of his one of

2412
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:11,640
you know, th- this was one of his one of
 

2413
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,710
you know, th- this was one of his one of
his alleged anomalies, right? And then,

2414
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:13,720
his alleged anomalies, right? And then,
 

2415
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:14,950
his alleged anomalies, right? And then,
obviously, just like all of them, when

2416
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:14,960
obviously, just like all of them, when
 

2417
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,110
obviously, just like all of them, when
you look into it, it's absolutely

2418
00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:16,120
you look into it, it's absolutely
 

2419
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,030
you look into it, it's absolutely
trivial to explain in terms of the

2420
00:45:18,030 --> 00:45:18,040
trivial to explain in terms of the
 

2421
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,070
trivial to explain in terms of the
organometallic complexes that they fit

2422
00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:20,080
organometallic complexes that they fit
 

2423
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,590
organometallic complexes that they fit
into in the order in which they sublime.

2424
00:45:21,590 --> 00:45:21,600
into in the order in which they sublime.
 

2425
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,590
into in the order in which they sublime.
So, tell us about

2426
00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:23,600
So, tell us about
 

2427
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,030
So, tell us about
Yeah, tell us about these complexes,

2428
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:25,040
Yeah, tell us about these complexes,
 

2429
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,790
Yeah, tell us about these complexes,
essentially.

2430
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:26,800
essentially.
 

2431
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,550
essentially.
>> Yeah, so, how we think um and and again,

2432
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:30,560
>> Yeah, so, how we think um and and again,
 

2433
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,630
>> Yeah, so, how we think um and and again,
that's a, you know, it's a hypothesis

2434
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:32,640
that's a, you know, it's a hypothesis
 

2435
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,430
that's a, you know, it's a hypothesis
that fits the data at the moment. It

2436
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:34,440
that fits the data at the moment. It
 

2437
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,030
that fits the data at the moment. It
doesn't mean that it's the correct one

2438
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:36,040
doesn't mean that it's the correct one
 

2439
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,790
doesn't mean that it's the correct one
or the only one. Um so, we we are still

2440
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:38,800
or the only one. Um so, we we are still
 

2441
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,990
or the only one. Um so, we we are still
actively looking at how to interpret the

2442
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:41,000
actively looking at how to interpret the
 

2443
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,670
actively looking at how to interpret the
data in different kind of ways.

2444
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:43,680
data in different kind of ways.
 

2445
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,630
data in different kind of ways.
Um but as it looks, um there is a

2446
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:46,640
Um but as it looks, um there is a
 

2447
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,710
Um but as it looks, um there is a
carbonyl channel that feeds basically

2448
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:48,720
carbonyl channel that feeds basically
 

2449
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,550
carbonyl channel that feeds basically
the uh the metallic emission

2450
00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:51,560
the uh the metallic emission
 

2451
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,950
the uh the metallic emission
in the coma of um interstellar objects

2452
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:53,960
in the coma of um interstellar objects
 

2453
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,910
in the coma of um interstellar objects
as they come in from the deep space.

2454
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:55,920
as they come in from the deep space.
 

2455
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,630
as they come in from the deep space.
They're very cold, um

2456
00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:57,640
They're very cold, um
 

2457
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,910
They're very cold, um
um processed by cosmic rays, um

2458
00:46:00,910 --> 00:46:00,920
um processed by cosmic rays, um
 

2459
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,190
um processed by cosmic rays, um
and long, long time,

2460
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:03,200
and long, long time,
 

2461
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,750
and long, long time,
um,

2462
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:03,760
um,
 

2463
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,950
um,
and then the carbonyls basically, um,

2464
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:06,960
and then the carbonyls basically, um,
 

2465
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,950
and then the carbonyls basically, um,
become liberated, right? They get into

2466
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:08,960
become liberated, right? They get into
 

2467
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,750
become liberated, right? They get into
the coma, and then they basically get

2468
00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:10,760
the coma, and then they basically get
 

2469
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,710
the coma, and then they basically get
dissolved by the radiation or or

2470
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:12,720
dissolved by the radiation or or
 

2471
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,590
dissolved by the radiation or or
dissociated by the radiation, and then

2472
00:46:14,590 --> 00:46:14,600
dissociated by the radiation, and then
 

2473
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,750
dissociated by the radiation, and then
one

2474
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:15,760
one
 

2475
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,190
one
just has a slightly higher sublimation

2476
00:46:18,190 --> 00:46:18,200
just has a slightly higher sublimation
 

2477
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,270
just has a slightly higher sublimation
energy than than the other one, and and

2478
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:20,280
energy than than the other one, and and
 

2479
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,830
energy than than the other one, and and
so there is a delay, um, as the object

2480
00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:22,840
so there is a delay, um, as the object
 

2481
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,790
so there is a delay, um, as the object
travels to, um, basically higher surface

2482
00:46:25,790 --> 00:46:25,800
travels to, um, basically higher surface
 

2483
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,670
travels to, um, basically higher surface
temperatures in the solar system, closer

2484
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:27,680
temperatures in the solar system, closer
 

2485
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,030
temperatures in the solar system, closer
to the sun.

2486
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:29,040
to the sun.
 

2487
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,630
to the sun.
Um, you see nickel first, and then you

2488
00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:31,640
Um, you see nickel first, and then you
 

2489
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,950
Um, you see nickel first, and then you
see iron later. And and there is a

2490
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:33,960
see iron later. And and there is a
 

2491
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,990
see iron later. And and there is a
beautiful now also model progression as

2492
00:46:36,990 --> 00:46:37,000
beautiful now also model progression as
 

2493
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,910
beautiful now also model progression as
you have this thermal lag, right? And

2494
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:38,920
you have this thermal lag, right? And
 

2495
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,550
you have this thermal lag, right? And
then and then the

2496
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:40,560
then and then the
 

2497
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,350
then and then the
um, essentially the channels that feed

2498
00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:42,360
um, essentially the channels that feed
 

2499
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,590
um, essentially the channels that feed
these carbonyls, the the parental, um,

2500
00:46:44,590 --> 00:46:44,600
these carbonyls, the the parental, um,
 

2501
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,030
these carbonyls, the the parental, um,
species,

2502
00:46:46,030 --> 00:46:46,040
species,
 

2503
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,670
species,
um, as they become available in the

2504
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:47,680
um, as they become available in the
 

2505
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,190
um, as they become available in the
coma, you should see, you know, a lag of

2506
00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:50,200
coma, you should see, you know, a lag of
 

2507
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,670
coma, you should see, you know, a lag of
of these, um,

2508
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:51,680
of these, um,
 

2509
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,950
of these, um,
of the of the ratios of of nickel and

2510
00:46:53,950 --> 00:46:53,960
of the of the ratios of of nickel and
 

2511
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,830
of the of the ratios of of nickel and
iron as the comet progresses. And then

2512
00:46:55,830 --> 00:46:55,840
iron as the comet progresses. And then
 

2513
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,470
iron as the comet progresses. And then
and so we have monitored this, and we

2514
00:46:57,470 --> 00:46:57,480
and so we have monitored this, and we
 

2515
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,950
and so we have monitored this, and we
actually see this.

2516
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:58,960
actually see this.
 

2517
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,630
actually see this.
And and it's really beautifully

2518
00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:00,640
And and it's really beautifully
 

2519
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,230
And and it's really beautifully
explained by

2520
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:02,240
explained by
 

2521
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,310
explained by
you know, I don't want to say it's

2522
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:03,320
you know, I don't want to say it's
 

2523
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,990
you know, I don't want to say it's
simple chemistry, but that we we still

2524
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:06,000
simple chemistry, but that we we still
 

2525
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,070
simple chemistry, but that we we still
expect this

2526
00:47:07,070 --> 00:47:07,080
expect this
 

2527
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,230
expect this
relatively simple chemistry.

2528
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:08,240
relatively simple chemistry.
 

2529
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,710
relatively simple chemistry.
>> Yeah, I mean, to help to help the viewer

2530
00:47:09,710 --> 00:47:09,720
>> Yeah, I mean, to help to help the viewer
 

2531
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:10,950
>> Yeah, I mean, to help to help the viewer
understand what we're saying is that he

2532
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:10,960
understand what we're saying is that he
 

2533
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,790
understand what we're saying is that he
was complaining about which one was

2534
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:12,800
was complaining about which one was
 

2535
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,350
was complaining about which one was
visible first, too much nickel, and then

2536
00:47:14,350 --> 00:47:14,360
visible first, too much nickel, and then
 

2537
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,190
visible first, too much nickel, and then
the iron came after. And so he was

2538
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:17,200
the iron came after. And so he was
 

2539
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,110
the iron came after. And so he was
treating it as though this is elemental

2540
00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:19,120
treating it as though this is elemental
 

2541
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,190
treating it as though this is elemental
nickel and iron that that we're looking

2542
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:21,200
nickel and iron that that we're looking
 

2543
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,470
nickel and iron that that we're looking
for, but the point is there's not just

2544
00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:23,480
for, but the point is there's not just
 

2545
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,390
for, but the point is there's not just
like

2546
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:24,400
like
 

2547
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,310
like
metal nickel and iron on the on the on

2548
00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:27,320
metal nickel and iron on the on the on
 

2549
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,790
metal nickel and iron on the on the on
the on the comet. They're in these

2550
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:28,800
the on the comet. They're in these
 

2551
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,230
the on the comet. They're in these
carbonyl-containing organometallic

2552
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:30,240
carbonyl-containing organometallic
 

2553
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:32,070
carbonyl-containing organometallic
complexes, and they have a different

2554
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:32,080
complexes, and they have a different
 

2555
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,630
complexes, and they have a different
central atom, so they have slightly

2556
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:33,640
central atom, so they have slightly
 

2557
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,510
central atom, so they have slightly
different properties. So the

2558
00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:34,520
different properties. So the
 

2559
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,870
different properties. So the
nickel-containing one sublimes first,

2560
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:36,880
nickel-containing one sublimes first,
 

2561
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,630
nickel-containing one sublimes first,
and then it gets split apart, the

2562
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:38,640
and then it gets split apart, the
 

2563
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,030
and then it gets split apart, the
carbonyls fly away, and then you can

2564
00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:40,040
carbonyls fly away, and then you can
 

2565
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,510
carbonyls fly away, and then you can
detect the nickel, and then later the So

2566
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:42,520
detect the nickel, and then later the So
 

2567
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,670
detect the nickel, and then later the So
is part of the problem that Atlas we we

2568
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:46,680
is part of the problem that Atlas we we
 

2569
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,430
is part of the problem that Atlas we we
it's only the third,

2570
00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:48,440
it's only the third,
 

2571
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,750
it's only the third,
exocomet that we've seen, and we saw it

2572
00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:50,760
exocomet that we've seen, and we saw it
 

2573
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,390
exocomet that we've seen, and we saw it
so early that we had this opportunity to

2574
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:53,400
so early that we had this opportunity to
 

2575
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,510
so early that we had this opportunity to
see this this very specific sequence of

2576
00:47:56,510 --> 00:47:56,520
see this this very specific sequence of
 

2577
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,150
see this this very specific sequence of
substances sublime as it approached,

2578
00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:59,160
substances sublime as it approached,
 

2579
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,550
substances sublime as it approached,
which is what which is why it was

2580
00:48:00,550 --> 00:48:00,560
which is what which is why it was
 

2581
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,030
which is what which is why it was
different uh

2582
00:48:02,030 --> 00:48:02,040
different uh
 

2583
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,870
different uh
you know, we we'd never seen that

2584
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:03,880
you know, we we'd never seen that
 

2585
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,110
you know, we we'd never seen that
sequence of outgassing before. Is that

2586
00:48:06,110 --> 00:48:06,120
sequence of outgassing before. Is that
 

2587
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,110
sequence of outgassing before. Is that
part of it? Yeah.

2588
00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:07,120
part of it? Yeah.
 

2589
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,590
part of it? Yeah.
>> No, that's precisely like you say. It's

2590
00:48:08,590 --> 00:48:08,600
>> No, that's precisely like you say. It's
 

2591
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,310
>> No, that's precisely like you say. It's
exactly the reason. So, the the reason

2592
00:48:10,310 --> 00:48:10,320
exactly the reason. So, the the reason
 

2593
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,350
exactly the reason. So, the the reason
is really simply that we caught this in

2594
00:48:12,350 --> 00:48:12,360
is really simply that we caught this in
 

2595
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,870
is really simply that we caught this in
a very very uh lucky, let's say,

2596
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:14,880
a very very uh lucky, let's say,
 

2597
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,750
a very very uh lucky, let's say,
distance.

2598
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:15,760
distance.
 

2599
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,110
distance.
>> Mhm.

2600
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:16,120
>> Mhm.
 

2601
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,550
>> Mhm.
>> Uh when when these these compounds

2602
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:18,560
>> Uh when when these these compounds
 

2603
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,110
>> Uh when when these these compounds
become really like available to

2604
00:48:21,110 --> 00:48:21,120
become really like available to
 

2605
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,070
become really like available to
dissociation and and being visible in

2606
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:23,080
dissociation and and being visible in
 

2607
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,030
dissociation and and being visible in
the coma.

2608
00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:24,040
the coma.
 

2609
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,350
the coma.
>> Yeah.

2610
00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:24,360
>> Yeah.
 

2611
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,230
>> Yeah.
>> Uh so, the switch on just right um after

2612
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:28,240
>> Uh so, the switch on just right um after
 

2613
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,150
>> Uh so, the switch on just right um after
we we discovered this thing and put our

2614
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:30,160
we we discovered this thing and put our
 

2615
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,990
we we discovered this thing and put our
spectrographs on. And then, you know,

2616
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:32,000
spectrographs on. And then, you know,
 

2617
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,590
spectrographs on. And then, you know,
suddenly these lines became visible.

2618
00:48:34,590 --> 00:48:34,600
suddenly these lines became visible.
 

2619
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,590
suddenly these lines became visible.
Uh we detected them. And then so, that

2620
00:48:36,590 --> 00:48:36,600
Uh we detected them. And then so, that
 

2621
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,950
Uh we detected them. And then so, that
was like huge news. And and since Avi um

2622
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:39,960
was like huge news. And and since Avi um
 

2623
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,950
was like huge news. And and since Avi um
had his UIP had already on at that time,

2624
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:42,960
had his UIP had already on at that time,
 

2625
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,790
had his UIP had already on at that time,
right? Um having metal compounds in the

2626
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:45,800
right? Um having metal compounds in the
 

2627
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,990
right? Um having metal compounds in the
comet, although that was nothing new

2628
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:48,000
comet, although that was nothing new
 

2629
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,910
comet, although that was nothing new
because, you know, groups before in uh

2630
00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:50,920
because, you know, groups before in uh
 

2631
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,630
because, you know, groups before in uh
2I/Borisov have detected actually

2632
00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:53,640
2I/Borisov have detected actually
 

2633
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,190
2I/Borisov have detected actually
uh nickel and iron emissions um

2634
00:48:56,190 --> 00:48:56,200
uh nickel and iron emissions um
 

2635
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:56,910
uh nickel and iron emissions um
>> Yeah.

2636
00:48:56,910 --> 00:48:56,920
>> Yeah.
 

2637
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,230
>> Yeah.
>> And also in in some other uh

2638
00:49:00,230 --> 00:49:00,240
>> And also in in some other uh
 

2639
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,950
>> And also in in some other uh
you know, solar system object, solar

2640
00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:01,960
you know, solar system object, solar
 

2641
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,790
you know, solar system object, solar
system comets that that float in the

2642
00:49:03,790 --> 00:49:03,800
system comets that that float in the
 

2643
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,630
system comets that that float in the
outskirts of the solar system, we know

2644
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:05,640
outskirts of the solar system, we know
 

2645
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,270
outskirts of the solar system, we know
that they have also nickel and iron

2646
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:07,280
that they have also nickel and iron
 

2647
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,710
that they have also nickel and iron
emissions.

2648
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:07,720
emissions.
 

2649
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:08,390
emissions.
>> Right.

2650
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:08,400
>> Right.
 

2651
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,150
>> Right.
>> Um and that's a relatively recent result

2652
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:11,160
>> Um and that's a relatively recent result
 

2653
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,070
>> Um and that's a relatively recent result
um I have to say. So, maybe in the last,

2654
00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:13,080
um I have to say. So, maybe in the last,
 

2655
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,590
um I have to say. So, maybe in the last,
I would say, 10 years um people became

2656
00:49:15,590 --> 00:49:15,600
I would say, 10 years um people became
 

2657
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,990
I would say, 10 years um people became
aware that that these emissions in the

2658
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:18,000
aware that that these emissions in the
 

2659
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,910
aware that that these emissions in the
in the blue optical UV exist.

2660
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:20,920
in the blue optical UV exist.
 

2661
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,350
in the blue optical UV exist.
And so, now after 2I/Borisov and and

2662
00:49:23,350 --> 00:49:23,360
And so, now after 2I/Borisov and and
 

2663
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,110
And so, now after 2I/Borisov and and
especially 3I/Atlas, this was yeah. Duh.

2664
00:49:27,110 --> 00:49:27,120
especially 3I/Atlas, this was yeah. Duh.
 

2665
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,030
especially 3I/Atlas, this was yeah. Duh.
>> Right. It's

2666
00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:28,040
>> Right. It's
 

2667
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,550
>> Right. It's
>> kind of expected that. And um and then,

2668
00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:30,560
>> kind of expected that. And um and then,
 

2669
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,550
>> kind of expected that. And um and then,
Avi just made a big fuss out of this

2670
00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:32,560
Avi just made a big fuss out of this
 

2671
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,110
Avi just made a big fuss out of this
that this is, you know, um equivalent to

2672
00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:35,120
that this is, you know, um equivalent to
 

2673
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,150
that this is, you know, um equivalent to
high-tech um in the sky, which is

2674
00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:37,160
high-tech um in the sky, which is
 

2675
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,030
high-tech um in the sky, which is
>> Right.

2676
00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:38,040
>> Right.
 

2677
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,990
>> Right.
>> not the case.

2678
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:39,000
>> not the case.
 

2679
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,910
>> not the case.
>> I mean, not only a stretch given what

2680
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:42,920
>> I mean, not only a stretch given what
 

2681
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,070
>> I mean, not only a stretch given what
it's not like first, there's the thing

2682
00:49:45,070 --> 00:49:45,080
it's not like first, there's the thing
 

2683
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,550
it's not like first, there's the thing
that it's not anomalous data once you

2684
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:46,560
that it's not anomalous data once you
 

2685
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,910
that it's not anomalous data once you
consider the explanations, which we must

2686
00:49:48,910 --> 00:49:48,920
consider the explanations, which we must
 

2687
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,510
consider the explanations, which we must
which we must believe that he has seen

2688
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:51,520
which we must believe that he has seen
 

2689
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,350
which we must believe that he has seen
the work of of your group and other

2690
00:49:53,350 --> 00:49:53,360
the work of of your group and other
 

2691
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,870
the work of of your group and other
groups. I mean, if he's hunting for news

2692
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:55,880
groups. I mean, if he's hunting for news
 

2693
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,510
groups. I mean, if he's hunting for news
on this object that he's not personally

2694
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:57,520
on this object that he's not personally
 

2695
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,990
on this object that he's not personally
gathering data on, he has to have seen

2696
00:49:59,990 --> 00:50:00,000
gathering data on, he has to have seen
 

2697
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,230
gathering data on, he has to have seen
these results.

2698
00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:01,240
these results.
 

2699
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,670
these results.
But, it would have been a stretch even

2700
00:50:02,670 --> 00:50:02,680
But, it would have been a stretch even
 

2701
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,470
But, it would have been a stretch even
if it was unexplained to go to

2702
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:04,480
if it was unexplained to go to
 

2703
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,910
if it was unexplained to go to
high-tech. But,

2704
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:05,920
high-tech. But,
 

2705
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,430
high-tech. But,
so do you have any other examples of um

2706
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:09,440
so do you have any other examples of um
 

2707
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,150
so do you have any other examples of um
Like, this is a very clear distortion

2708
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:11,160
Like, this is a very clear distortion
 

2709
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,870
Like, this is a very clear distortion
like to it is

2710
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:12,880
like to it is
 

2711
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,550
like to it is
in my estimation very intellectually

2712
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:14,560
in my estimation very intellectually
 

2713
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,750
in my estimation very intellectually
dishonest to continue to speak about

2714
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:16,760
dishonest to continue to speak about
 

2715
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,630
dishonest to continue to speak about
these nickel and iron emissions as

2716
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:18,640
these nickel and iron emissions as
 

2717
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,830
these nickel and iron emissions as
though it is somehow anomalous. Or, what

2718
00:50:20,830 --> 00:50:20,840
though it is somehow anomalous. Or, what
 

2719
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,150
though it is somehow anomalous. Or, what
are the other features of Atlas that he

2720
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:23,160
are the other features of Atlas that he
 

2721
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,190
are the other features of Atlas that he
is calling anomalous that that you think

2722
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:25,200
is calling anomalous that that you think
 

2723
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,150
is calling anomalous that that you think
are

2724
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:26,160
are
 

2725
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,870
are
totally unfair to be regarded as

2726
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:27,880
totally unfair to be regarded as
 

2727
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,950
totally unfair to be regarded as
anomalous?

2728
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:28,960
anomalous?
 

2729
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,710
anomalous?
>> I mean, there was this jet and the the

2730
00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:31,720
>> I mean, there was this jet and the the
 

2731
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:34,510
>> I mean, there was this jet and the the
micro acceleration issue, right? That

2732
00:50:34,510 --> 00:50:34,520
micro acceleration issue, right? That
 

2733
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,550
micro acceleration issue, right? That
that anything that that shows

2734
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:37,560
that anything that that shows
 

2735
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,270
that anything that that shows
a forward tail

2736
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:40,280
a forward tail
 

2737
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,110
a forward tail
that anything that shows a deviation

2738
00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:42,120
that anything that shows a deviation
 

2739
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,230
that anything that shows a deviation
from from the, you know, Keplerian

2740
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:44,240
from from the, you know, Keplerian
 

2741
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:45,630
from from the, you know, Keplerian
trajectory

2742
00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:45,640
trajectory
 

2743
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,710
trajectory
has something to do with, you know,

2744
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:48,720
has something to do with, you know,
 

2745
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,470
has something to do with, you know,
artificially driven maneuvering. Um

2746
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:52,480
artificially driven maneuvering. Um
 

2747
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,750
artificially driven maneuvering. Um
That kind of stuff is the the

2748
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:54,760
That kind of stuff is the the
 

2749
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,870
That kind of stuff is the the
>> right? The non-gravs are very well

2750
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:56,880
>> right? The non-gravs are very well
 

2751
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,750
>> right? The non-gravs are very well
understood.

2752
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:57,760
understood.
 

2753
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,110
understood.
>> Exactly. It's the same ballpark. We know

2754
00:51:00,110 --> 00:51:00,120
>> Exactly. It's the same ballpark. We know
 

2755
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,470
>> Exactly. It's the same ballpark. We know
that, you know, as even solar system

2756
00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:03,480
that, you know, as even solar system
 

2757
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,630
that, you know, as even solar system
comets

2758
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:04,640
comets
 

2759
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,430
comets
get closer to the sun, there is

2760
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:06,440
get closer to the sun, there is
 

2761
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,190
get closer to the sun, there is
micro-accelerations there, right? So,

2762
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:08,200
micro-accelerations there, right? So,
 

2763
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,430
micro-accelerations there, right? So,
they they deviate from their orbital,

2764
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:11,440
they they deviate from their orbital,
 

2765
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,390
they they deviate from their orbital,
let's say, forward calculated paths. And

2766
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:14,400
let's say, forward calculated paths. And
 

2767
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,350
let's say, forward calculated paths. And
so, that's nothing new. I mean, that

2768
00:51:16,350 --> 00:51:16,360
so, that's nothing new. I mean, that
 

2769
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,030
so, that's nothing new. I mean, that
there is

2770
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:17,040
there is
 

2771
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,790
there is
>> Yeah, it's not an inert object. It's

2772
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:18,800
>> Yeah, it's not an inert object. It's
 

2773
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,630
>> Yeah, it's not an inert object. It's
outgassing and those that outgassing

2774
00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:21,640
outgassing and those that outgassing
 

2775
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,230
outgassing and those that outgassing
produces an acceleration just like it

2776
00:51:23,230 --> 00:51:23,240
produces an acceleration just like it
 

2777
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:24,510
produces an acceleration just like it
would a rocket or something. I mean,

2778
00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:24,520
would a rocket or something. I mean,
 

2779
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,390
would a rocket or something. I mean,
obviously nowhere near to the extent of

2780
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:26,400
obviously nowhere near to the extent of
 

2781
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,750
obviously nowhere near to the extent of
a rocket, but

2782
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:27,760
a rocket, but
 

2783
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,270
a rocket, but
>> Of course.

2784
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:29,280
>> Of course.
 

2785
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,510
>> Of course.
>> To me, this is like not not too hard to

2786
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:31,520
>> To me, this is like not not too hard to
 

2787
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,350
>> To me, this is like not not too hard to
understand. I would imagine even for you

2788
00:51:33,350 --> 00:51:33,360
understand. I would imagine even for you
 

2789
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,470
understand. I would imagine even for you
know, for everyone listening that, you

2790
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:34,480
know, for everyone listening that, you
 

2791
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,030
know, for everyone listening that, you
know, there's gas coming off of an

2792
00:51:36,030 --> 00:51:36,040
know, there's gas coming off of an
 

2793
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,710
know, there's gas coming off of an
object, it's going to affect the

2794
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:37,720
object, it's going to affect the
 

2795
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,790
object, it's going to affect the
trajectory. It's not an inert object.

2796
00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:39,800
trajectory. It's not an inert object.
 

2797
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,590
trajectory. It's not an inert object.
But, um

2798
00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:40,600
But, um
 

2799
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,910
But, um
>> I have to I have to say, um

2800
00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:42,920
>> I have to I have to say, um
 

2801
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,150
>> I have to I have to say, um
having these, let's say, doubts

2802
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:46,160
having these, let's say, doubts
 

2803
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,870
having these, let's say, doubts
is very healthy, right? So, you you you

2804
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:48,880
is very healthy, right? So, you you you
 

2805
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,150
is very healthy, right? So, you you you
want to have, let's say, skepticism in

2806
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:51,160
want to have, let's say, skepticism in
 

2807
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,790
want to have, let's say, skepticism in
your thinking and in your your analyses,

2808
00:51:53,790 --> 00:51:53,800
your thinking and in your your analyses,
 

2809
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,630
your thinking and in your your analyses,
right? You you want to check the numbers

2810
00:51:55,630 --> 00:51:55,640
right? You you want to check the numbers
 

2811
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,830
right? You you want to check the numbers
specifically. You want to be

2812
00:51:56,830 --> 00:51:56,840
specifically. You want to be
 

2813
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,590
specifically. You want to be
quantitative about this.

2814
00:51:58,590 --> 00:51:58,600
quantitative about this.
 

2815
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:58,790
quantitative about this.
>> Yeah.

2816
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:58,800
>> Yeah.
 

2817
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,430
>> Yeah.
>> But we, you know, very early on we have,

2818
00:52:01,430 --> 00:52:01,440
>> But we, you know, very early on we have,
 

2819
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,830
>> But we, you know, very early on we have,
you know, the papers, dozens of papers

2820
00:52:03,830 --> 00:52:03,840
you know, the papers, dozens of papers
 

2821
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,310
you know, the papers, dozens of papers
about these topics that have shown that

2822
00:52:06,310 --> 00:52:06,320
about these topics that have shown that
 

2823
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,350
about these topics that have shown that
yeah, you know, like the accelerations

2824
00:52:08,350 --> 00:52:08,360
yeah, you know, like the accelerations
 

2825
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,030
yeah, you know, like the accelerations
given an object size and mass and and,

2826
00:52:12,030 --> 00:52:12,040
given an object size and mass and and,
 

2827
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,030
given an object size and mass and and,
you know, surface, the characteristics

2828
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:14,040
you know, surface, the characteristics
 

2829
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,190
you know, surface, the characteristics
that we sort of like apply to to typical

2830
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:17,200
that we sort of like apply to to typical
 

2831
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,910
that we sort of like apply to to typical
expectation values of these kinds of

2832
00:52:18,910 --> 00:52:18,920
expectation values of these kinds of
 

2833
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,270
expectation values of these kinds of
objects, they check out and and it's

2834
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:21,280
objects, they check out and and it's
 

2835
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,870
objects, they check out and and it's
nothing really exotic, right? So, yeah,

2836
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:23,880
nothing really exotic, right? So, yeah,
 

2837
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,030
nothing really exotic, right? So, yeah,
there might be, I don't know, like a

2838
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:26,040
there might be, I don't know, like a
 

2839
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,630
there might be, I don't know, like a
two sigma outlier, but has obviously to

2840
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:28,640
two sigma outlier, but has obviously to
 

2841
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,590
two sigma outlier, but has obviously to
do with how the object behaved from the

2842
00:52:30,590 --> 00:52:30,600
do with how the object behaved from the
 

2843
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,670
do with how the object behaved from the
beginning because we, you know, we

2844
00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:32,680
beginning because we, you know, we
 

2845
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,670
beginning because we, you know, we
tracked it so early and then and then,

2846
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:34,680
tracked it so early and then and then,
 

2847
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,910
tracked it so early and then and then,
yeah, we saw many deviations and and the

2848
00:52:36,910 --> 00:52:36,920
yeah, we saw many deviations and and the
 

2849
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,470
yeah, we saw many deviations and and the
jets in the direction of, you know,

2850
00:52:39,470 --> 00:52:39,480
jets in the direction of, you know,
 

2851
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,710
jets in the direction of, you know,
like, I don't know, separated by 120°,

2852
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:41,720
like, I don't know, separated by 120°,
 

2853
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,790
like, I don't know, separated by 120°,
like he's claiming at some point.

2854
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:43,800
like he's claiming at some point.
 

2855
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,230
like he's claiming at some point.
Um, you know, this thing rotates, yeah,

2856
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:46,240
Um, you know, this thing rotates, yeah,
 

2857
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:47,790
Um, you know, this thing rotates, yeah,
it will probably be heated very

2858
00:52:47,790 --> 00:52:47,800
it will probably be heated very
 

2859
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,550
it will probably be heated very
homogeneously, so there is no surprise

2860
00:52:49,550 --> 00:52:49,560
homogeneously, so there is no surprise
 

2861
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,230
homogeneously, so there is no surprise
that you have somehow, you know, like

2862
00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:51,240
that you have somehow, you know, like
 

2863
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,350
that you have somehow, you know, like
we, let's say, triangle

2864
00:52:53,350 --> 00:52:53,360
we, let's say, triangle
 

2865
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,430
we, let's say, triangle
um,

2866
00:52:54,430 --> 00:52:54,440
um,
 

2867
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,790
um,
pattern in the outgassing that that you

2868
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:56,800
pattern in the outgassing that that you
 

2869
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,470
pattern in the outgassing that that you
see, right? So, it's not [snorts]

2870
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:58,480
see, right? So, it's not [snorts]
 

2871
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,470
see, right? So, it's not [snorts]
nothing, you know, seemed like out of

2872
00:53:00,470 --> 00:53:00,480
nothing, you know, seemed like out of
 

2873
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,750
nothing, you know, seemed like out of
the ordinary.

2874
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:01,760
the ordinary.
 

2875
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,510
the ordinary.
>> Right.

2876
00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:02,520
>> Right.
 

2877
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,710
>> Right.
>> Un- until the medium blog post dropped,

2878
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:04,720
>> Un- until the medium blog post dropped,
 

2879
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:05,030
>> Un- until the medium blog post dropped,
right?

2880
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:05,040
right?
 

2881
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,550
right?
>> Yes, until a medium blog Right, which is

2882
00:53:07,550 --> 00:53:07,560
>> Yes, until a medium blog Right, which is
 

2883
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,470
>> Yes, until a medium blog Right, which is
cutting-edge science, of course. Um, I

2884
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:09,480
cutting-edge science, of course. Um, I
 

2885
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,110
cutting-edge science, of course. Um, I
think that's the problem is that I I

2886
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:11,120
think that's the problem is that I I
 

2887
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,710
think that's the problem is that I I
want the public to understand, right,

2888
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:12,720
want the public to understand, right,
 

2889
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,990
want the public to understand, right,
this this straw man from Avi of all the

2890
00:53:14,990 --> 00:53:15,000
this this straw man from Avi of all the
 

2891
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,430
this this straw man from Avi of all the
the scientific community is so

2892
00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:16,440
the scientific community is so
 

2893
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,870
the scientific community is so
close-minded. Listen, you are very

2894
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:18,880
close-minded. Listen, you are very
 

2895
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,750
close-minded. Listen, you are very
clearly espousing an open-minded

2896
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:20,760
clearly espousing an open-minded
 

2897
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,870
clearly espousing an open-minded
attitude. If you have alternate

2898
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:22,880
attitude. If you have alternate
 

2899
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,870
attitude. If you have alternate
explanations, please bring them forward,

2900
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:24,880
explanations, please bring them forward,
 

2901
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,670
explanations, please bring them forward,
but our explanations fit the data quite

2902
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:27,680
but our explanations fit the data quite
 

2903
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,790
but our explanations fit the data quite
well. So, if you want to offer something

2904
00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:29,800
well. So, if you want to offer something
 

2905
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,710
well. So, if you want to offer something
very outlandish, it had better fit the

2906
00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:31,720
very outlandish, it had better fit the
 

2907
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:34,510
very outlandish, it had better fit the
data at least as well or better. And if

2908
00:53:34,510 --> 00:53:34,520
data at least as well or better. And if
 

2909
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,870
data at least as well or better. And if
you don't have that, stop talking about

2910
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:36,880
you don't have that, stop talking about
 

2911
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,710
you don't have that, stop talking about
how close-minded everybody is and do

2912
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:38,720
how close-minded everybody is and do
 

2913
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,030
how close-minded everybody is and do
better science, right? I feel like

2914
00:53:40,030 --> 00:53:40,040
better science, right? I feel like
 

2915
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,110
better science, right? I feel like
that's the conclusion here.

2916
00:53:42,110 --> 00:53:42,120
that's the conclusion here.
 

2917
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,110
that's the conclusion here.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Like, you have to keep

2918
00:53:44,110 --> 00:53:44,120
>> Yeah, absolutely. Like, you have to keep
 

2919
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,510
>> Yeah, absolutely. Like, you have to keep
an open mind, but let not your mind fall

2920
00:53:46,510 --> 00:53:46,520
an open mind, but let not your mind fall
 

2921
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,270
an open mind, but let not your mind fall
out of the open chap, right?

2922
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:49,280
out of the open chap, right?
 

2923
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,070
out of the open chap, right?
>> Yeah, into another dimension.

2924
00:53:51,070 --> 00:53:51,080
>> Yeah, into another dimension.
 

2925
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,910
>> Yeah, into another dimension.
>> Into another dimension, right? So that's

2926
00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:52,920
>> Into another dimension, right? So that's
 

2927
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,110
>> Into another dimension, right? So that's
the classic statement here, but

2928
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:55,120
the classic statement here, but
 

2929
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,430
the classic statement here, but
but yeah, it's it's it's very important

2930
00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:58,440
but yeah, it's it's it's very important
 

2931
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,510
but yeah, it's it's it's very important
to

2932
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:59,520
to
 

2933
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,150
to
see the possibilities, to actually

2934
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:02,160
see the possibilities, to actually
 

2935
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,670
see the possibilities, to actually
investigate,

2936
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:03,680
investigate,
 

2937
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,950
investigate,
um and quantitatively

2938
00:54:05,950 --> 00:54:05,960
um and quantitatively
 

2939
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,190
um and quantitatively
make a conclusion about, you know, what

2940
00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:08,200
make a conclusion about, you know, what
 

2941
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,990
make a conclusion about, you know, what
is actually

2942
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:10,000
is actually
 

2943
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,270
is actually
likely to be true.

2944
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:11,280
likely to be true.
 

2945
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:11,870
likely to be true.
>> Mhm.

2946
00:54:11,870 --> 00:54:11,880
>> Mhm.
 

2947
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,870
>> Mhm.
>> Um but if you have, you know, a very

2948
00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:13,880
>> Um but if you have, you know, a very
 

2949
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,390
>> Um but if you have, you know, a very
minuscule probability um of this thing

2950
00:54:17,390 --> 00:54:17,400
minuscule probability um of this thing
 

2951
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,950
minuscule probability um of this thing
being true, um you you discard it,

2952
00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:19,960
being true, um you you discard it,
 

2953
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,630
being true, um you you discard it,
right? And then you move on to to the

2954
00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:21,640
right? And then you move on to to the
 

2955
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,310
right? And then you move on to to the
next one. The the most likely

2956
00:54:23,310 --> 00:54:23,320
next one. The the most likely
 

2957
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,230
next one. The the most likely
explanation is

2958
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:24,240
explanation is
 

2959
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:24,910
explanation is
>> Yes.

2960
00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:24,920
>> Yes.
 

2961
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,270
>> Yes.
>> in most cases, right?

2962
00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:26,280
>> in most cases, right?
 

2963
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,750
>> in most cases, right?
>> Yes.

2964
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:26,760
>> Yes.
 

2965
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,350
>> Yes.
>> Like empiricism and that um

2966
00:54:29,350 --> 00:54:29,360
>> Like empiricism and that um
 

2967
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,070
>> Like empiricism and that um
the true one, right? Or closest to the

2968
00:54:31,070 --> 00:54:31,080
the true one, right? Or closest to the
 

2969
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,630
the true one, right? Or closest to the
true one.

2970
00:54:31,630 --> 00:54:31,640
true one.
 

2971
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,510
true one.
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Uh okay, so any any

2972
00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:34,520
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Uh okay, so any any
 

2973
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,910
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Uh okay, so any any
last thoughts on 3I Atlas or future

2974
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:37,920
last thoughts on 3I Atlas or future
 

2975
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,910
last thoughts on 3I Atlas or future
potential exocomet discoveries before we

2976
00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:40,920
potential exocomet discoveries before we
 

2977
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,110
potential exocomet discoveries before we
move on?

2978
00:54:42,110 --> 00:54:42,120
move on?
 

2979
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,190
move on?
>> Yeah, so I think this thing um taught us

2980
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:45,200
>> Yeah, so I think this thing um taught us
 

2981
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,070
>> Yeah, so I think this thing um taught us
a huge lesson, right? So 3I Atlas. Um so

2982
00:54:49,070 --> 00:54:49,080
a huge lesson, right? So 3I Atlas. Um so
 

2983
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,590
a huge lesson, right? So 3I Atlas. Um so
the the fact that we as a community came

2984
00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:52,600
the the fact that we as a community came
 

2985
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,670
the the fact that we as a community came
together, um and and I'm speaking of the

2986
00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:56,680
together, um and and I'm speaking of the
 

2987
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,230
together, um and and I'm speaking of the
comet community, the

2988
00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:59,240
comet community, the
 

2989
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,350
comet community, the
you know, instrumentation community, the

2990
00:55:01,350 --> 00:55:01,360
you know, instrumentation community, the
 

2991
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,390
you know, instrumentation community, the
the the the people who are like

2992
00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:03,400
the the the people who are like
 

2993
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,110
the the the people who are like
marginally have been working on the

2994
00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:05,120
marginally have been working on the
 

2995
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,070
marginally have been working on the
sides, uh like myself and my team, and

2996
00:55:08,070 --> 00:55:08,080
sides, uh like myself and my team, and
 

2997
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,670
sides, uh like myself and my team, and
and contributed to to this.

2998
00:55:10,670 --> 00:55:10,680
and contributed to to this.
 

2999
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,550
and contributed to to this.
Um

3000
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:11,560
Um
 

3001
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,470
Um
the fact that we have this new window

3002
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:14,480
the fact that we have this new window
 

3003
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,750
the fact that we have this new window
open

3004
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:15,760
open
 

3005
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,790
open
um to basically interstellar material

3006
00:55:18,790 --> 00:55:18,800
um to basically interstellar material
 

3007
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,110
um to basically interstellar material
and and protoplanetary disk material of

3008
00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:22,120
and and protoplanetary disk material of
 

3009
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,870
and and protoplanetary disk material of
other worlds,

3010
00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:23,880
other worlds,
 

3011
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,990
other worlds,
um needs to have like a philosophical

3012
00:55:26,990 --> 00:55:27,000
um needs to have like a philosophical
 

3013
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,630
um needs to have like a philosophical
rethinking about how to use the

3014
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:28,640
rethinking about how to use the
 

3015
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,630
rethinking about how to use the
resources best for that kind of science,

3016
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:30,640
resources best for that kind of science,
 

3017
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,550
resources best for that kind of science,
right? So we will not be able to go back

3018
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:32,560
right? So we will not be able to go back
 

3019
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,470
right? So we will not be able to go back
to

3020
00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:33,480
to
 

3021
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,790
to
8-m or 10-m class telescopes and just

3022
00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:35,800
8-m or 10-m class telescopes and just
 

3023
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,670
8-m or 10-m class telescopes and just
wave the hand, give us time, right? Um

3024
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:38,680
wave the hand, give us time, right? Um
 

3025
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,830
wave the hand, give us time, right? Um
for

3026
00:55:39,830 --> 00:55:39,840
for
 

3027
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,950
for
the maybe for 4I,

3028
00:55:41,950 --> 00:55:41,960
the maybe for 4I,
 

3029
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,590
the maybe for 4I,
but maybe for 5I, 6I, and and then NI,

3030
00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:46,600
but maybe for 5I, 6I, and and then NI,
 

3031
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,110
but maybe for 5I, 6I, and and then NI,
people will say, "Hey, come on, you

3032
00:55:48,110 --> 00:55:48,120
people will say, "Hey, come on, you
 

3033
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,750
people will say, "Hey, come on, you
know, you like

3034
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:49,760
know, you like
 

3035
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,870
know, you like
what's new about 10I?"

3036
00:55:51,870 --> 00:55:51,880
what's new about 10I?"
 

3037
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,710
what's new about 10I?"
Um and so building a statistically

3038
00:55:55,710 --> 00:55:55,720
Um and so building a statistically
 

3039
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:58,350
Um and so building a statistically
interesting and significant sample for

3040
00:55:58,350 --> 00:55:58,360
interesting and significant sample for
 

3041
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,830
interesting and significant sample for
for future exploration of the

3042
00:55:59,830 --> 00:55:59,840
for future exploration of the
 

3043
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,550
for future exploration of the
characteristics of

3044
00:56:01,550 --> 00:56:01,560
characteristics of
 

3045
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,510
characteristics of
exoplanet systems

3046
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:03,520
exoplanet systems
 

3047
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,870
exoplanet systems
um will be tough, right? So, we probably

3048
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:05,880
um will be tough, right? So, we probably
 

3049
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,470
um will be tough, right? So, we probably
will have to build dedicated, you know,

3050
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:08,480
will have to build dedicated, you know,
 

3051
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,310
will have to build dedicated, you know,
8-10 meter class telescopes that just,

3052
00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:11,320
8-10 meter class telescopes that just,
 

3053
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,790
8-10 meter class telescopes that just,
you know, in the Rubin era, where

3054
00:56:12,790 --> 00:56:12,800
you know, in the Rubin era, where
 

3055
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,630
you know, in the Rubin era, where
hopefully we will discover one and maybe

3056
00:56:15,630 --> 00:56:15,640
hopefully we will discover one and maybe
 

3057
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,350
hopefully we will discover one and maybe
a few per year,

3058
00:56:17,350 --> 00:56:17,360
a few per year,
 

3059
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,150
a few per year,
we can actually track them in a

3060
00:56:19,150 --> 00:56:19,160
we can actually track them in a
 

3061
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,510
we can actually track them in a
dedicated way and and monitor them.

3062
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:21,520
dedicated way and and monitor them.
 

3063
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,230
dedicated way and and monitor them.
Because from the monitoring, really,

3064
00:56:23,230 --> 00:56:23,240
Because from the monitoring, really,
 

3065
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:24,790
Because from the monitoring, really,
from the

3066
00:56:24,790 --> 00:56:24,800
from the
 

3067
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,790
from the
you know, going from

3068
00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:26,800
you know, going from
 

3069
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,910
you know, going from
a Polaroid picture gallery,

3070
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:28,920
a Polaroid picture gallery,
 

3071
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,150
a Polaroid picture gallery,
like the science was done before 3I

3072
00:56:31,150 --> 00:56:31,160
like the science was done before 3I
 

3073
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,750
like the science was done before 3I
Atlas, to really like making a movie

3074
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:33,760
Atlas, to really like making a movie
 

3075
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,670
Atlas, to really like making a movie
about its evolution as it passes through

3076
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:35,680
about its evolution as it passes through
 

3077
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,710
about its evolution as it passes through
the solar system,

3078
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:36,720
the solar system,
 

3079
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:37,590
the solar system,
>> Mhm.

3080
00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:37,600
>> Mhm.
 

3081
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,910
>> Mhm.
>> it's a quantum leap of understanding um

3082
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:39,920
>> it's a quantum leap of understanding um
 

3083
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,830
>> it's a quantum leap of understanding um
about about these types of objects. And

3084
00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:41,840
about about these types of objects. And
 

3085
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,510
about about these types of objects. And
so, I think addressing infrastructural

3086
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:44,520
so, I think addressing infrastructural
 

3087
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,950
so, I think addressing infrastructural
improvements and and also coordination

3088
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:46,960
improvements and and also coordination
 

3089
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,630
improvements and and also coordination
between teams and people uh will be

3090
00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:49,640
between teams and people uh will be
 

3091
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,230
between teams and people uh will be
fundamental, I think, in the next few

3092
00:56:51,230 --> 00:56:51,240
fundamental, I think, in the next few
 

3093
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:52,790
fundamental, I think, in the next few
years. So, this was, I think, the the

3094
00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:52,800
years. So, this was, I think, the the
 

3095
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,310
years. So, this was, I think, the the
biggest lesson from from 3I Atlas.

3096
00:56:55,310 --> 00:56:55,320
biggest lesson from from 3I Atlas.
 

3097
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,230
biggest lesson from from 3I Atlas.
>> Absolutely. Yeah, I I think uh I think

3098
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:57,240
>> Absolutely. Yeah, I I think uh I think
 

3099
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,510
>> Absolutely. Yeah, I I think uh I think
we'll see something similar to the

3100
00:56:58,510 --> 00:56:58,520
we'll see something similar to the
 

3101
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,310
we'll see something similar to the
explosion of exoplanet discoveries,

3102
00:57:00,310 --> 00:57:00,320
explosion of exoplanet discoveries,
 

3103
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,790
explosion of exoplanet discoveries,
where you get one, you get two, three,

3104
00:57:01,790 --> 00:57:01,800
where you get one, you get two, three,
 

3105
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,830
where you get one, you get two, three,
and then, okay, we've got thousands, and

3106
00:57:03,830 --> 00:57:03,840
and then, okay, we've got thousands, and
 

3107
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,510
and then, okay, we've got thousands, and
then it'll be then then as you say,

3108
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:05,520
then it'll be then then as you say,
 

3109
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,190
then it'll be then then as you say,
we'll really have an idea in terms of

3110
00:57:08,190 --> 00:57:08,200
we'll really have an idea in terms of
 

3111
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,990
we'll really have an idea in terms of
uh you know, we'll have a larger set of

3112
00:57:10,990 --> 00:57:11,000
uh you know, we'll have a larger set of
 

3113
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,910
uh you know, we'll have a larger set of
of of objects to understand

3114
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:12,920
of of objects to understand
 

3115
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,550
of of objects to understand
statistically what uh what what looks

3116
00:57:15,550 --> 00:57:15,560
statistically what uh what what looks
 

3117
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,990
statistically what uh what what looks
typical, what what's a little bit

3118
00:57:16,990 --> 00:57:17,000
typical, what what's a little bit
 

3119
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,110
typical, what what's a little bit
stranger, but um yeah, I look forward to

3120
00:57:19,110 --> 00:57:19,120
stranger, but um yeah, I look forward to
 

3121
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,270
stranger, but um yeah, I look forward to
that. Um so, let's see. Um what else did

3122
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:23,280
that. Um so, let's see. Um what else did
 

3123
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,310
that. Um so, let's see. Um what else did
I want to talk about? I think just very

3124
00:57:25,310 --> 00:57:25,320
I want to talk about? I think just very
 

3125
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,710
I want to talk about? I think just very
generally, given his antics with 3I

3126
00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:27,720
generally, given his antics with 3I
 

3127
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,830
generally, given his antics with 3I
Atlas being sort of the third round of

3128
00:57:30,830 --> 00:57:30,840
Atlas being sort of the third round of
 

3129
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,710
Atlas being sort of the third round of
of this behavior after Oumuamua and the

3130
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:34,720
of this behavior after Oumuamua and the
 

3131
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,230
of this behavior after Oumuamua and the
and the stuff with the Bolide,

3132
00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:37,240
and the stuff with the Bolide,
 

3133
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,350
and the stuff with the Bolide,
what what do you what's your view in

3134
00:57:39,350 --> 00:57:39,360
what what do you what's your view in
 

3135
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,550
what what do you what's your view in
terms of the way the broad astronomy and

3136
00:57:42,550 --> 00:57:42,560
terms of the way the broad astronomy and
 

3137
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,390
terms of the way the broad astronomy and
astrophysics community

3138
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:44,400
astrophysics community
 

3139
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,310
astrophysics community
sees Avi and and his potential

3140
00:57:47,310 --> 00:57:47,320
sees Avi and and his potential
 

3141
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,590
sees Avi and and his potential
representation of of your field?

3142
00:57:50,590 --> 00:57:50,600
representation of of your field?
 

3143
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,790
representation of of your field?
>> I mean, in the field of

3144
00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:52,800
>> I mean, in the field of
 

3145
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,230
>> I mean, in the field of
interstellar objects, I think I think

3146
00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:55,240
interstellar objects, I think I think
 

3147
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,390
interstellar objects, I think I think
Avi is a

3148
00:57:57,390 --> 00:57:57,400
Avi is a
 

3149
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,550
Avi is a
I you know,

3150
00:57:58,550 --> 00:57:58,560
I you know,
 

3151
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,070
I you know,
a blogger at best, I think, at the

3152
00:58:01,070 --> 00:58:01,080
a blogger at best, I think, at the
 

3153
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,310
a blogger at best, I think, at the
moment. So, there there is

3154
00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:05,320

 

3155
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,230

there is this cringe factor that I see

3156
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:07,240
there is this cringe factor that I see
 

3157
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,710
there is this cringe factor that I see
among people

3158
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:08,720
among people
 

3159
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,270
among people
when we when we talk about this and then

3160
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:11,280
when we when we talk about this and then
 

3161
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,910
when we when we talk about this and then
people, you know, start laughing and

3162
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:13,920
people, you know, start laughing and
 

3163
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,310
people, you know, start laughing and
saying, "Yeah, Harvard has spoken

3164
00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:15,320
saying, "Yeah, Harvard has spoken
 

3165
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,510
saying, "Yeah, Harvard has spoken
again." And

3166
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:16,520
again." And
 

3167
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,030
again." And
um

3168
00:58:18,030 --> 00:58:18,040
um
 

3169
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,670
um
I I I I think, you know,

3170
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:22,680

 

3171
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,470

it's it's really depends on how

3172
00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:25,480
it's it's really depends on how
 

3173
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,910
it's it's really depends on how
insightful your education was to make a

3174
00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:28,920
insightful your education was to make a
 

3175
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,230
insightful your education was to make a
judgment about these things.

3176
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:30,240
judgment about these things.
 

3177
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,910
judgment about these things.
Unfortunately, this is not always the

3178
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:31,920
Unfortunately, this is not always the
 

3179
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,630
Unfortunately, this is not always the
case. Um

3180
00:58:33,630 --> 00:58:33,640
case. Um
 

3181
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,390
case. Um
and you you trust

3182
00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:35,400
and you you trust
 

3183
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,270
and you you trust
essentially people who who scream the

3184
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:37,280
essentially people who who scream the
 

3185
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,670
essentially people who who scream the
loudest

3186
00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:38,680
loudest
 

3187
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,910
loudest
in in most cases where you're not an

3188
00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:40,920
in in most cases where you're not an
 

3189
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,070
in in most cases where you're not an
expert. And I think that's kind of like

3190
00:58:43,070 --> 00:58:43,080
expert. And I think that's kind of like
 

3191
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,150
expert. And I think that's kind of like
the danger in this thing.

3192
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:45,160
the danger in this thing.
 

3193
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,990
the danger in this thing.
Um I as a scientist, I don't mind Avi,

3194
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:48,000
Um I as a scientist, I don't mind Avi,
 

3195
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,510
Um I as a scientist, I don't mind Avi,
you know, posting blogs and and

3196
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:51,520
you know, posting blogs and and
 

3197
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,870
you know, posting blogs and and
speculating around. I think this is fun

3198
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:53,880
speculating around. I think this is fun
 

3199
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,350
speculating around. I think this is fun
to certain degree.

3200
00:58:55,350 --> 00:58:55,360
to certain degree.
 

3201
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,990
to certain degree.
It's adorable.

3202
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:57,000
It's adorable.
 

3203
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,430
It's adorable.
Um but I think for for the larger

3204
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:59,440
Um but I think for for the larger
 

3205
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,990
Um but I think for for the larger
public, this is kind of a disservice and

3206
00:59:01,990 --> 00:59:02,000
public, this is kind of a disservice and
 

3207
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,350
public, this is kind of a disservice and
and it doesn't really push us as a

3208
00:59:04,350 --> 00:59:04,360
and it doesn't really push us as a
 

3209
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,630
and it doesn't really push us as a
civilization forward. Um

3210
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:06,640
civilization forward. Um
 

3211
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,190
civilization forward. Um
That's that's sort of

3212
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:08,200
That's that's sort of
 

3213
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,510
That's that's sort of
the understanding and feeling that I

3214
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:09,520
the understanding and feeling that I
 

3215
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,750
the understanding and feeling that I
have from the community.

3216
00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:10,760
have from the community.
 

3217
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,550
have from the community.
>> Yeah, I mean, it seems it seems even

3218
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:13,560
>> Yeah, I mean, it seems it seems even
 

3219
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,710
>> Yeah, I mean, it seems it seems even
worse than that to me. It seems

3220
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:14,720
worse than that to me. It seems
 

3221
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,710
worse than that to me. It seems
disastrous for for two reasons. I think

3222
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:16,720
disastrous for for two reasons. I think
 

3223
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,870
disastrous for for two reasons. I think
that the problem is that what are the

3224
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:18,880
that the problem is that what are the
 

3225
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,990
that the problem is that what are the
odds of you being able to do a media

3226
00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:21,000
odds of you being able to do a media
 

3227
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,110
odds of you being able to do a media
appearance to talk about certain aspects

3228
00:59:24,110 --> 00:59:24,120
appearance to talk about certain aspects
 

3229
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,590
appearance to talk about certain aspects
of 3I Atlas when they're so trained

3230
00:59:27,590 --> 00:59:27,600
of 3I Atlas when they're so trained
 

3231
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,390
of 3I Atlas when they're so trained
about it, you know, we want to talk

3232
00:59:29,390 --> 00:59:29,400
about it, you know, we want to talk
 

3233
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,150
about it, you know, we want to talk
about aliens. The Harvard guy says it's

3234
00:59:31,150 --> 00:59:31,160
about aliens. The Harvard guy says it's
 

3235
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,150
about aliens. The Harvard guy says it's
aliens, it's probably aliens. Everybody

3236
00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:33,160
aliens, it's probably aliens. Everybody
 

3237
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,390
aliens, it's probably aliens. Everybody
wants to click on this because it's

3238
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:34,400
wants to click on this because it's
 

3239
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,230
wants to click on this because it's
aliens. So, we're going to talk to you

3240
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:36,240
aliens. So, we're going to talk to you
 

3241
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,590
aliens. So, we're going to talk to you
and you're not saying it's aliens. Why

3242
00:59:37,590 --> 00:59:37,600
and you're not saying it's aliens. Why
 

3243
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,670
and you're not saying it's aliens. Why
do we want to talk to you?

3244
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:39,680
do we want to talk to you?
 

3245
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,190
do we want to talk to you?
And so, how how does legitimate science

3246
00:59:42,190 --> 00:59:42,200
And so, how how does legitimate science
 

3247
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,470
And so, how how does legitimate science
surrounding these objects get publicized

3248
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:44,480
surrounding these objects get publicized
 

3249
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,550
surrounding these objects get publicized
when the media landscape is now

3250
00:59:46,550 --> 00:59:46,560
when the media landscape is now
 

3251
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,510
when the media landscape is now
accustomed to talking about aliens? I

3252
00:59:48,510 --> 00:59:48,520
accustomed to talking about aliens? I
 

3253
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,910
accustomed to talking about aliens? I
mean, just it's it's impossible to

3254
00:59:50,910 --> 00:59:50,920
mean, just it's it's impossible to
 

3255
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,950
mean, just it's it's impossible to
reset that at this point. So, the damage

3256
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:52,960
reset that at this point. So, the damage
 

3257
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,870
reset that at this point. So, the damage
is done there in terms of the media. And

3258
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:54,880
is done there in terms of the media. And
 

3259
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,590
is done there in terms of the media. And
then furthermore, the public perception

3260
00:59:56,590 --> 00:59:56,600
then furthermore, the public perception
 

3261
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,470
then furthermore, the public perception
of science for someone to hold Avi above

3262
00:59:59,470 --> 00:59:59,480
of science for someone to hold Avi above
 

3263
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,470
of science for someone to hold Avi above
a researcher like you who is actually

3264
01:00:01,470 --> 01:00:01,480
a researcher like you who is actually
 

3265
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,550
a researcher like you who is actually
studying this object because he's so

3266
01:00:03,550 --> 01:00:03,560
studying this object because he's so
 

3267
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,990
studying this object because he's so
bold and he says these bold ideas about

3268
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:06,000
bold and he says these bold ideas about
 

3269
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,790
bold and he says these bold ideas about
aliens that are in compa- actually

3270
01:00:07,790 --> 01:00:07,800
aliens that are in compa- actually
 

3271
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,910
aliens that are in compa- actually
incompatible with the data.

3272
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:09,920
incompatible with the data.
 

3273
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,910
incompatible with the data.
I

3274
01:00:10,910 --> 01:00:10,920
I
 

3275
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,630
I
What of the what one of the things that

3276
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:12,640
What of the what one of the things that
 

3277
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,110
What of the what one of the things that
I see as my job as a science

3278
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:14,120
I see as my job as a science
 

3279
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,870
I see as my job as a science
communicator is to help train the public

3280
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:16,880
communicator is to help train the public
 

3281
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,350
communicator is to help train the public
or rehabilitate the public, I should

3282
01:00:18,350 --> 01:00:18,360
or rehabilitate the public, I should
 

3283
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,870
or rehabilitate the public, I should
say, towards valuing what somebody like

3284
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:20,880
say, towards valuing what somebody like
 

3285
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,430
say, towards valuing what somebody like
you says over what somebody would like

3286
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:23,440
you says over what somebody would like
 

3287
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,190
you says over what somebody would like
like Avi says. That's that's how I see

3288
01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:26,200
like Avi says. That's that's how I see
 

3289
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,950
like Avi says. That's that's how I see
that's how I see it.

3290
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:26,960
that's how I see it.
 

3291
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,190
that's how I see it.
>> Well, that's that's a very noble

3292
01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:28,200
>> Well, that's that's a very noble
 

3293
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,990
>> Well, that's that's a very noble
endeavor. I I really appreciate your

3294
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:30,000
endeavor. I I really appreciate your
 

3295
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,910
endeavor. I I really appreciate your
words here. I I I think, you know, the

3296
01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:32,920
words here. I I I think, you know, the
 

3297
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,790
words here. I I I think, you know, the
the

3298
01:00:33,790 --> 01:00:33,800
the
 

3299
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,750
the
truth will prevail

3300
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:35,760
truth will prevail
 

3301
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,790
truth will prevail
no matter what, right? And and I think

3302
01:00:37,790 --> 01:00:37,800
no matter what, right? And and I think
 

3303
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,870
no matter what, right? And and I think
the

3304
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:38,880
the
 

3305
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,550
the
the outreach the scientific outreach

3306
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:41,560
the outreach the scientific outreach
 

3307
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,590
the outreach the scientific outreach
platforms will split and I think they

3308
01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:44,600
platforms will split and I think they
 

3309
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,830
platforms will split and I think they
have already split and this

3310
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:46,840
have already split and this
 

3311
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,430
have already split and this
sensationalist

3312
01:00:48,430 --> 01:00:48,440
sensationalist
 

3313
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,110
sensationalist
aspect driven platforms

3314
01:00:51,110 --> 01:00:51,120
aspect driven platforms
 

3315
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,150
aspect driven platforms
and platforms like yours, right? Like

3316
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:54,160
and platforms like yours, right? Like
 

3317
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,670
and platforms like yours, right? Like
that drilled down are based on facts.

3318
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:57,680
that drilled down are based on facts.
 

3319
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,430
that drilled down are based on facts.
People actually look at, you know, the

3320
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:59,440
People actually look at, you know, the
 

3321
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,430
People actually look at, you know, the
data and and

3322
01:01:02,430 --> 01:01:02,440
data and and
 

3323
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,830
data and and
set up hypotheses and quantify them and

3324
01:01:04,830 --> 01:01:04,840
set up hypotheses and quantify them and
 

3325
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,070
set up hypotheses and quantify them and
then and then come to a conclusion that

3326
01:01:07,070 --> 01:01:07,080
then and then come to a conclusion that
 

3327
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:07,950
then and then come to a conclusion that
is

3328
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:07,960
is
 

3329
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,750
is
rarely crystal clear, right? And that

3330
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:10,760
rarely crystal clear, right? And that
 

3331
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,710
rarely crystal clear, right? And that
that has to be also

3332
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:12,720
that has to be also
 

3333
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,110
that has to be also
said. Science is rarely crystal clear,

3334
01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:16,120
said. Science is rarely crystal clear,
 

3335
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,390
said. Science is rarely crystal clear,
right? The results are pointing you into

3336
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:18,400
right? The results are pointing you into
 

3337
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,670
right? The results are pointing you into
a direction,

3338
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:19,680
a direction,
 

3339
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:20,830
a direction,
but it doesn't mean that they're

3340
01:01:20,830 --> 01:01:20,840
but it doesn't mean that they're
 

3341
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,670
but it doesn't mean that they're
incorrect, right? The direction is

3342
01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:22,680
incorrect, right? The direction is
 

3343
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,790
incorrect, right? The direction is
incorrect. Um things can be refined,

3344
01:01:25,790 --> 01:01:25,800
incorrect. Um things can be refined,
 

3345
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,350
incorrect. Um things can be refined,
right? Things can be better understood.

3346
01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:27,360
right? Things can be better understood.
 

3347
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,230
right? Things can be better understood.
And there are quantum leaps and and

3348
01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:29,240
And there are quantum leaps and and
 

3349
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,510
And there are quantum leaps and and
these um you know, the the the domain

3350
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:32,520
these um you know, the the the domain
 

3351
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,270
these um you know, the the the domain
changes, let's say, in our understanding

3352
01:01:34,270 --> 01:01:34,280
changes, let's say, in our understanding
 

3353
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,110
changes, let's say, in our understanding
of how reality works, but they occur

3354
01:01:36,110 --> 01:01:36,120
of how reality works, but they occur
 

3355
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,390
of how reality works, but they occur
very, very rarely.

3356
01:01:37,390 --> 01:01:37,400
very, very rarely.
 

3357
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:37,990
very, very rarely.
>> Right.

3358
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:38,000
>> Right.
 

3359
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,070
>> Right.
>> Um and so I think, you know, going

3360
01:01:40,070 --> 01:01:40,080
>> Um and so I think, you know, going
 

3361
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,310
>> Um and so I think, you know, going
forward

3362
01:01:40,310 --> 01:01:40,320
forward
 

3363
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,630
forward
>> incremental incremental progress from

3364
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:42,640
>> incremental incremental progress from
 

3365
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,990
>> incremental incremental progress from
thousands of people working in

3366
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:44,000
thousands of people working in
 

3367
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,390
thousands of people working in
conjunction. That's how the scientific

3368
01:01:45,390 --> 01:01:45,400
conjunction. That's how the scientific
 

3369
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,070
conjunction. That's how the scientific
community works.

3370
01:01:46,070 --> 01:01:46,080
community works.
 

3371
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,590
community works.
>> Precisely, right? And so I think bathing

3372
01:01:48,590 --> 01:01:48,600
>> Precisely, right? And so I think bathing
 

3373
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,710
>> Precisely, right? And so I think bathing
yourself in this consensus and and then

3374
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:51,720
yourself in this consensus and and then
 

3375
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,710
yourself in this consensus and and then
trying to figure out,

3376
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:53,720
trying to figure out,
 

3377
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,950
trying to figure out,
you know, where I can contribute with

3378
01:01:55,950 --> 01:01:55,960
you know, where I can contribute with
 

3379
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,150
you know, where I can contribute with
understanding instead of

3380
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:58,160
understanding instead of
 

3381
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,190
understanding instead of
sensationalistically,

3382
01:02:00,190 --> 01:02:00,200
sensationalistically,
 

3383
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,590
sensationalistically,
you know, spewing theories out into the

3384
01:02:02,590 --> 01:02:02,600
you know, spewing theories out into the
 

3385
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,110
you know, spewing theories out into the
universe, I think that doesn't help

3386
01:02:04,110 --> 01:02:04,120
universe, I think that doesn't help
 

3387
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,390
universe, I think that doesn't help
anyone. It's a lot of, you know, thrust

3388
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:06,400
anyone. It's a lot of, you know, thrust
 

3389
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,670
anyone. It's a lot of, you know, thrust
but no vector.

3390
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:07,680
but no vector.
 

3391
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,710
but no vector.
>> And the fainter our understanding, the

3392
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:09,720
>> And the fainter our understanding, the
 

3393
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,230
>> And the fainter our understanding, the
more nebulous our understanding, the

3394
01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:11,240
more nebulous our understanding, the
 

3395
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,070
more nebulous our understanding, the
more room there is for outlandish ideas.

3396
01:02:13,070 --> 01:02:13,080
more room there is for outlandish ideas.
 

3397
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,190
more room there is for outlandish ideas.
Somebody could propose a very outlandish

3398
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:16,200
Somebody could propose a very outlandish
 

3399
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,910
Somebody could propose a very outlandish
uh explanation for the nature of dark

3400
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:17,920
uh explanation for the nature of dark
 

3401
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,110
uh explanation for the nature of dark
matter and uh maybe even publish a paper

3402
01:02:20,110 --> 01:02:20,120
matter and uh maybe even publish a paper
 

3403
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,670
matter and uh maybe even publish a paper
on it if it had, you know, has a modicum

3404
01:02:22,670 --> 01:02:22,680
on it if it had, you know, has a modicum
 

3405
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,550
on it if it had, you know, has a modicum
of alignment with some

3406
01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:24,560
of alignment with some
 

3407
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,630
of alignment with some
data data set, you know, and everybody

3408
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:26,640
data data set, you know, and everybody
 

3409
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,230
data data set, you know, and everybody
can say, "Okay, that counts as science.

3410
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:28,240
can say, "Okay, that counts as science.
 

3411
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,590
can say, "Okay, that counts as science.
I don't really buy it, you know, see if

3412
01:02:29,590 --> 01:02:29,600
I don't really buy it, you know, see if
 

3413
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,510
I don't really buy it, you know, see if
you can get more data." But uh something

3414
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:31,520
you can get more data." But uh something
 

3415
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,190
you can get more data." But uh something
like this, uh you know, with 3D Atlas,

3416
01:02:34,190 --> 01:02:34,200
like this, uh you know, with 3D Atlas,
 

3417
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,190
like this, uh you know, with 3D Atlas,
I'm not an astronomer. I I have a I have

3418
01:02:36,190 --> 01:02:36,200
I'm not an astronomer. I I have a I have
 

3419
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,710
I'm not an astronomer. I I have a I have
a solid foundational understanding of

3420
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:37,720
a solid foundational understanding of
 

3421
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,110
a solid foundational understanding of
astronomy. But in reading these papers

3422
01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:40,120
astronomy. But in reading these papers
 

3423
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,190
astronomy. But in reading these papers
and using them to to

3424
01:02:42,190 --> 01:02:42,200
and using them to to
 

3425
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,790
and using them to to
to refute every single one of Avi's

3426
01:02:43,790 --> 01:02:43,800
to refute every single one of Avi's
 

3427
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,830
to refute every single one of Avi's
alleged anomalies was so trivial for me

3428
01:02:45,830 --> 01:02:45,840
alleged anomalies was so trivial for me
 

3429
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,030
alleged anomalies was so trivial for me
to do. It just felt so easy. And uh so I

3430
01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:49,040
to do. It just felt so easy. And uh so I
 

3431
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,230
to do. It just felt so easy. And uh so I
I just I

3432
01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:51,240
I just I
 

3433
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:51,870
I just I
Yeah.

3434
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:51,880
Yeah.
 

3435
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,350
Yeah.
>> Yeah, and so there is there there are

3436
01:02:54,350 --> 01:02:54,360
>> Yeah, and so there is there there are
 

3437
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,350
>> Yeah, and so there is there there are
many aspects usually, right? That that a

3438
01:02:57,350 --> 01:02:57,360
many aspects usually, right? That that a
 

3439
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,190
many aspects usually, right? That that a
theory or let's say a hypothesis has to

3440
01:03:00,190 --> 01:03:00,200
theory or let's say a hypothesis has to
 

3441
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,710
theory or let's say a hypothesis has to
cover, right? You don't only have to

3442
01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:01,720
cover, right? You don't only have to
 

3443
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,030
cover, right? You don't only have to
cover the new result, right? But you

3444
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:04,040
cover the new result, right? But you
 

3445
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,070
cover the new result, right? But you
have to cover the entire understanding

3446
01:03:06,070 --> 01:03:06,080
have to cover the entire understanding
 

3447
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,910
have to cover the entire understanding
of, you know, centuries and decades of

3448
01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:08,920
of, you know, centuries and decades of
 

3449
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,510
of, you know, centuries and decades of
of science. And and usually, you know,

3450
01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:12,520
of science. And and usually, you know,
 

3451
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,510
of science. And and usually, you know,
people like that are just pointing to

3452
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:15,520
people like that are just pointing to
 

3453
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,910
people like that are just pointing to
one individual aspect of

3454
01:03:18,910 --> 01:03:18,920
one individual aspect of
 

3455
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,470
one individual aspect of
the research that has been done, the

3456
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:20,480
the research that has been done, the
 

3457
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,830
the research that has been done, the
analysis that maybe is uncertain,

3458
01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:22,840
analysis that maybe is uncertain,
 

3459
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,590
analysis that maybe is uncertain,
um the statistics that is maybe not

3460
01:03:24,590 --> 01:03:24,600
um the statistics that is maybe not
 

3461
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,230
um the statistics that is maybe not
really solid at the moment, right? We

3462
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:26,240
really solid at the moment, right? We
 

3463
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,830
really solid at the moment, right? We
just have three objects. What do you

3464
01:03:27,830 --> 01:03:27,840
just have three objects. What do you
 

3465
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,710
just have three objects. What do you
want to, you know, say about statistics

3466
01:03:29,710 --> 01:03:29,720
want to, you know, say about statistics
 

3467
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,230
want to, you know, say about statistics
anyway?

3468
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:30,240
anyway?
 

3469
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:30,670
anyway?
>> Right.

3470
01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:30,680
>> Right.
 

3471
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:30,870
>> Right.
>> Yeah.

3472
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:30,880
>> Yeah.
 

3473
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,030
>> Yeah.
>> Um and then and then drifting out into

3474
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:33,040
>> Um and then and then drifting out into
 

3475
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,470
>> Um and then and then drifting out into
the hyperspace of probability density,

3476
01:03:35,470 --> 01:03:35,480
the hyperspace of probability density,
 

3477
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,310
the hyperspace of probability density,
um I think it's it's a very,

3478
01:03:38,310 --> 01:03:38,320
um I think it's it's a very,
 

3479
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,910
um I think it's it's a very,
you know, mute endeavor and and it's

3480
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:39,920
you know, mute endeavor and and it's
 

3481
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,630
you know, mute endeavor and and it's
completely useless in in

3482
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:42,640
completely useless in in
 

3483
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,110
completely useless in in
in our progression of science.

3484
01:03:45,110 --> 01:03:45,120
in our progression of science.
 

3485
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,590
in our progression of science.
>> Agreed. Yeah, it's it's yeah, we need to

3486
01:03:47,590 --> 01:03:47,600
>> Agreed. Yeah, it's it's yeah, we need to
 

3487
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,790
>> Agreed. Yeah, it's it's yeah, we need to
help the public understand this aspect

3488
01:03:49,790 --> 01:03:49,800
help the public understand this aspect
 

3489
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,630
help the public understand this aspect
of the scientific endeavor. I think

3490
01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:51,640
of the scientific endeavor. I think
 

3491
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,750
of the scientific endeavor. I think
that's that's absolutely crucial. Uh

3492
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:53,760
that's that's absolutely crucial. Uh
 

3493
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,070
that's that's absolutely crucial. Uh
okay, so the last thing I wanted to talk

3494
01:03:55,070 --> 01:03:55,080
okay, so the last thing I wanted to talk
 

3495
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,990
okay, so the last thing I wanted to talk
about is I just recently found out and I

3496
01:03:56,990 --> 01:03:57,000
about is I just recently found out and I
 

3497
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,990
about is I just recently found out and I
think you mentioned this as well, Avi is

3498
01:03:58,990 --> 01:03:59,000
think you mentioned this as well, Avi is
 

3499
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,350
think you mentioned this as well, Avi is
now the head of the UAP Science Advisory

3500
01:04:02,350 --> 01:04:02,360
now the head of the UAP Science Advisory
 

3501
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,870
now the head of the UAP Science Advisory
Council to the White House. So, um we I

3502
01:04:05,870 --> 01:04:05,880
Council to the White House. So, um we I
 

3503
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,910
Council to the White House. So, um we I
don't know how invested you are in the

3504
01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:08,920
don't know how invested you are in the
 

3505
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,190
don't know how invested you are in the
UAP phenomenon and the new congres-

3506
01:04:12,190 --> 01:04:12,200
UAP phenomenon and the new congres-
 

3507
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,110
UAP phenomenon and the new congres-
these congressional hearings. In my

3508
01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:14,120
these congressional hearings. In my
 

3509
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,310
these congressional hearings. In my
estimation, it just reeks of psyop

3510
01:04:16,310 --> 01:04:16,320
estimation, it just reeks of psyop
 

3511
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,310
estimation, it just reeks of psyop
top-to-bottom, and so it absolutely

3512
01:04:18,310 --> 01:04:18,320
top-to-bottom, and so it absolutely
 

3513
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,270
top-to-bottom, and so it absolutely
makes sense that Avi would be in bed

3514
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:20,280
makes sense that Avi would be in bed
 

3515
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,830
makes sense that Avi would be in bed
with that, but uh

3516
01:04:21,830 --> 01:04:21,840
with that, but uh
 

3517
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,790
with that, but uh
get you know, what what's your take on

3518
01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:23,800
get you know, what what's your take on
 

3519
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,270
get you know, what what's your take on
UAPs in general and then Avi's

3520
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:25,280
UAPs in general and then Avi's
 

3521
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,390
UAPs in general and then Avi's
involvement with this council?

3522
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:28,400
involvement with this council?
 

3523
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,830
involvement with this council?
>> Well, UAPs, uh UFOs in general, I think

3524
01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:31,840
>> Well, UAPs, uh UFOs in general, I think
 

3525
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,430
>> Well, UAPs, uh UFOs in general, I think
it's it it's an interesting phenomenon,

3526
01:04:34,430 --> 01:04:34,440
it's it it's an interesting phenomenon,
 

3527
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,870
it's it it's an interesting phenomenon,
right? So, there are really weird

3528
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:36,880
right? So, there are really weird
 

3529
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,990
right? So, there are really weird
sightings and reports and um

3530
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:40,000
sightings and reports and um
 

3531
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,630
sightings and reports and um
people making observations, but rarely

3532
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:43,640
people making observations, but rarely
 

3533
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,870
people making observations, but rarely
there is like, you know, a conclusive

3534
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:46,880
there is like, you know, a conclusive
 

3535
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,230
there is like, you know, a conclusive
evidence. Um

3536
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:48,240
evidence. Um
 

3537
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,430
evidence. Um
so, the the signal-to-noise of all the

3538
01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:50,440
so, the the signal-to-noise of all the
 

3539
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,550
so, the the signal-to-noise of all the
evidence that I've seen so far

3540
01:04:52,550 --> 01:04:52,560
evidence that I've seen so far
 

3541
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,910
evidence that I've seen so far
is uh below one. And and and so that for

3542
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:55,920
is uh below one. And and and so that for
 

3543
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,990
is uh below one. And and and so that for
me as a scientist does not count as

3544
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:58,000
me as a scientist does not count as
 

3545
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,990
me as a scientist does not count as
evidence for anything unless you really

3546
01:04:59,990 --> 01:05:00,000
evidence for anything unless you really
 

3547
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,390
evidence for anything unless you really
show me,

3548
01:05:01,390 --> 01:05:01,400
show me,
 

3549
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,470
show me,
I don't know, like, you know, um a

3550
01:05:03,470 --> 01:05:03,480
I don't know, like, you know, um a
 

3551
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,790
I don't know, like, you know, um a
measurement that that has been verified

3552
01:05:06,790 --> 01:05:06,800
measurement that that has been verified
 

3553
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,150
measurement that that has been verified
by another um instrument um that shows

3554
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:10,160
by another um instrument um that shows
 

3555
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,550
by another um instrument um that shows
exactly the same bizarre non-physical

3556
01:05:12,550 --> 01:05:12,560
exactly the same bizarre non-physical
 

3557
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,190
exactly the same bizarre non-physical
aspect of what you want to claim.

3558
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:15,200
aspect of what you want to claim.
 

3559
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,245
aspect of what you want to claim.
Um I hold my my guns.

3560
01:05:18,245 --> 01:05:18,255
Um I hold my my guns.
 

3561
01:05:18,255 --> 01:05:18,390
Um I hold my my guns.
>> [laughter]

3562
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:18,400
>> [laughter]
 

3563
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,390
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah.

3564
01:05:19,390 --> 01:05:19,400
>> Yeah.
 

3565
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,990
>> Yeah.
>> Um I think I think it's it's important

3566
01:05:22,990 --> 01:05:23,000
>> Um I think I think it's it's important
 

3567
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,990
>> Um I think I think it's it's important
to have again, like we said before,

3568
01:05:24,990 --> 01:05:25,000
to have again, like we said before,
 

3569
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,390
to have again, like we said before,
right? It's important to have your eyes

3570
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:26,400
right? It's important to have your eyes
 

3571
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,070
right? It's important to have your eyes
open, your your senses ready

3572
01:05:29,070 --> 01:05:29,080
open, your your senses ready
 

3573
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,910
open, your your senses ready
um to basically detect whatever there is

3574
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:32,920
um to basically detect whatever there is
 

3575
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,390
um to basically detect whatever there is
in the universe. Um and and yeah, who

3576
01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:35,400
in the universe. Um and and yeah, who
 

3577
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,110
in the universe. Um and and yeah, who
knows? Maybe we will detect at some

3578
01:05:37,110 --> 01:05:37,120
knows? Maybe we will detect at some
 

3579
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,710
knows? Maybe we will detect at some
point something really freaky and then

3580
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:39,720
point something really freaky and then
 

3581
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,310
point something really freaky and then
non-physical and and beyond our

3582
01:05:42,310 --> 01:05:42,320
non-physical and and beyond our
 

3583
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,870
non-physical and and beyond our
comprehension and understanding of the

3584
01:05:43,870 --> 01:05:43,880
comprehension and understanding of the
 

3585
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,430
comprehension and understanding of the
physical world.

3586
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:45,440
physical world.
 

3587
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,150
physical world.
Um

3588
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:46,160
Um
 

3589
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,070
Um
>> And scientists are actively looking for

3590
01:05:48,070 --> 01:05:48,080
>> And scientists are actively looking for
 

3591
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,470
>> And scientists are actively looking for
those things on you know, the precise

3592
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:50,480
those things on you know, the precise
 

3593
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,390
those things on you know, the precise
opposite of what Avi claims.

3594
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:52,400
opposite of what Avi claims.
 

3595
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,710
opposite of what Avi claims.
Uh it it's insane to me this idea that

3596
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:54,720
Uh it it's insane to me this idea that
 

3597
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,190
Uh it it's insane to me this idea that
astrobiologists don't want to find

3598
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:57,200
astrobiologists don't want to find
 

3599
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,990
astrobiologists don't want to find
aliens. It would be the discovery of a

3600
01:05:59,990 --> 01:06:00,000
aliens. It would be the discovery of a
 

3601
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,350
aliens. It would be the discovery of a
lifetime. Uh they're all looking for

3602
01:06:02,350 --> 01:06:02,360
lifetime. Uh they're all looking for
 

3603
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,510
lifetime. Uh they're all looking for
aliens.

3604
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:03,520
aliens.
 

3605
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,470
aliens.
Um it's an indefensible accusation.

3606
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:06,480
Um it's an indefensible accusation.
 

3607
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,590
Um it's an indefensible accusation.
>> Yes. Yes. So we we all have, right, our

3608
01:06:09,590 --> 01:06:09,600
>> Yes. Yes. So we we all have, right, our
 

3609
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,390
>> Yes. Yes. So we we all have, right, our
our sensors and our cell phones and and

3610
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:12,400
our sensors and our cell phones and and
 

3611
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,710
our sensors and our cell phones and and
our telescopes open and and we are

3612
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:14,720
our telescopes open and and we are
 

3613
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,830
our telescopes open and and we are
looking actively and and

3614
01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:16,840
looking actively and and
 

3615
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,110
looking actively and and
there is

3616
01:06:18,110 --> 01:06:18,120
there is
 

3617
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,830
there is
you know, I think there was there was

3618
01:06:19,830 --> 01:06:19,840
you know, I think there was there was
 

3619
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,790
you know, I think there was there was
never an instance in my in my life, in

3620
01:06:22,790 --> 01:06:22,800
never an instance in my in my life, in
 

3621
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,150
never an instance in my in my life, in
my mind that that would just flat out

3622
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:26,160
my mind that that would just flat out
 

3623
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,270
my mind that that would just flat out
reject and refuse to want to see. And

3624
01:06:30,270 --> 01:06:30,280
reject and refuse to want to see. And
 

3625
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,350
reject and refuse to want to see. And
and I think that aspect is in every

3626
01:06:33,350 --> 01:06:33,360
and I think that aspect is in every
 

3627
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,750
and I think that aspect is in every
let's say legitimate scientists living

3628
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:35,760
let's say legitimate scientists living
 

3629
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,310
let's say legitimate scientists living
in in in his or her hypercortex and and

3630
01:06:39,310 --> 01:06:39,320
in in in his or her hypercortex and and
 

3631
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,470
in in in his or her hypercortex and and
I think as long as you see that, that

3632
01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:41,480
I think as long as you see that, that
 

3633
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,310
I think as long as you see that, that
there is absolutely no way you can, you

3634
01:06:43,310 --> 01:06:43,320
there is absolutely no way you can, you
 

3635
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,630
there is absolutely no way you can, you
know, get away with I think um

3636
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:46,640
know, get away with I think um
 

3637
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,110
know, get away with I think um
saying that the community is against

3638
01:06:50,110 --> 01:06:50,120
saying that the community is against
 

3639
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,350
saying that the community is against
detecting any anomalies in the sky,

3640
01:06:52,350 --> 01:06:52,360
detecting any anomalies in the sky,
 

3641
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,070
detecting any anomalies in the sky,
right? And and so they're they're way

3642
01:06:54,070 --> 01:06:54,080
right? And and so they're they're way
 

3643
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,870
right? And and so they're they're way
more

3644
01:06:55,870 --> 01:06:55,880
more
 

3645
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,750
more
precise and

3646
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:57,760
precise and
 

3647
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,390
precise and
um sensitive

3648
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:59,400
um sensitive
 

3649
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,470
um sensitive
instrumentation out there than than the

3650
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:02,480
instrumentation out there than than the
 

3651
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,830
instrumentation out there than than the
UAP community typically

3652
01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:04,840
UAP community typically
 

3653
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,750
UAP community typically
um

3654
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:05,760
um
 

3655
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,590
um
puts to work.

3656
01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:07,600
puts to work.
 

3657
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,550
puts to work.
And there is absolutely no evidence for

3658
01:07:09,550 --> 01:07:09,560
And there is absolutely no evidence for
 

3659
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,430
And there is absolutely no evidence for
anything like this. So,

3660
01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:11,440
anything like this. So,
 

3661
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,350
anything like this. So,
I I would say

3662
01:07:15,350 --> 01:07:15,360

 

3663
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,950

let them let them work. Let them do the

3664
01:07:17,950 --> 01:07:17,960
let them let them work. Let them do the
 

3665
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,630
let them let them work. Let them do the
counseling. Let them, you know, find out

3666
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:21,640
counseling. Let them, you know, find out
 

3667
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,790
counseling. Let them, you know, find out
it's it's a path to to the truth. And

3668
01:07:24,790 --> 01:07:24,800
it's it's a path to to the truth. And
 

3669
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,750
it's it's a path to to the truth. And
and if the truth is out there, we will

3670
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:26,760
and if the truth is out there, we will
 

3671
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,630
and if the truth is out there, we will
find it at some point.

3672
01:07:27,630 --> 01:07:27,640
find it at some point.
 

3673
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,246
find it at some point.
>> very generous of you.

3674
01:07:29,246 --> 01:07:29,256
>> very generous of you.
 

3675
01:07:29,256 --> 01:07:29,390
>> very generous of you.
>> [laughter]

3676
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:29,400
>> [laughter]
 

3677
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,670
>> [laughter]
>> To me, Avi's involvement in this only

3678
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:32,680
>> To me, Avi's involvement in this only
 

3679
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,510
>> To me, Avi's involvement in this only
further cements my opinion of it being a

3680
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:35,520
further cements my opinion of it being a
 

3681
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,070
further cements my opinion of it being a
complete psyop. The question is why?

3682
01:07:38,070 --> 01:07:38,080
complete psyop. The question is why?
 

3683
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,910
complete psyop. The question is why?
What are we being distracted from? Is it

3684
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:39,920
What are we being distracted from? Is it
 

3685
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,630
What are we being distracted from? Is it
Is the Epstein files enough of an

3686
01:07:41,630 --> 01:07:41,640
Is the Epstein files enough of an
 

3687
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,110
Is the Epstein files enough of an
answer? Or is it something

3688
01:07:44,110 --> 01:07:44,120
answer? Or is it something
 

3689
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,950
answer? Or is it something
uh more sinister? I don't know. We will

3690
01:07:45,950 --> 01:07:45,960
uh more sinister? I don't know. We will
 

3691
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,350
uh more sinister? I don't know. We will
see what they report to us.

3692
01:07:48,350 --> 01:07:48,360
see what they report to us.
 

3693
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,510
see what they report to us.
>> We will see. Exactly.

3694
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:49,520
>> We will see. Exactly.
 

3695
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,910
>> We will see. Exactly.
>> Yeah. But anyway, thanks so much. That

3696
01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:50,920
>> Yeah. But anyway, thanks so much. That
 

3697
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,310
>> Yeah. But anyway, thanks so much. That
was very enlightening. It's great to

3698
01:07:52,310 --> 01:07:52,320
was very enlightening. It's great to
 

3699
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,150
was very enlightening. It's great to
hear such a rational, prudent attitude

3700
01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:55,160
hear such a rational, prudent attitude
 

3701
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,590
hear such a rational, prudent attitude
being espoused from

3702
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:56,600
being espoused from
 

3703
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,590
being espoused from
a scientist that is actually

3704
01:07:58,590 --> 01:07:58,600
a scientist that is actually
 

3705
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,990
a scientist that is actually
studying these objects. So, yeah, thanks

3706
01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:01,000
studying these objects. So, yeah, thanks
 

3707
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,630
studying these objects. So, yeah, thanks
so much for joining us.

3708
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:02,640
so much for joining us.
 

3709
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,270
so much for joining us.
>> My pleasure, Dave.

3710
01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:04,280
>> My pleasure, Dave.
 

3711
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,110
>> My pleasure, Dave.
>> Good stuff, huh? It's always a nice

3712
01:08:06,110 --> 01:08:06,120
>> Good stuff, huh? It's always a nice
 

3713
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,710
>> Good stuff, huh? It's always a nice
palate cleanser to hear from a real

3714
01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:07,720
palate cleanser to hear from a real
 

3715
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,870
palate cleanser to hear from a real
scientist after listening to a buffoon

3716
01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:09,880
scientist after listening to a buffoon
 

3717
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,350
scientist after listening to a buffoon
like Avi shriek like a maniac for longer

3718
01:08:12,350 --> 01:08:12,360
like Avi shriek like a maniac for longer
 

3719
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,910
like Avi shriek like a maniac for longer
than anyone should have to be subjected

3720
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:13,920
than anyone should have to be subjected
 

3721
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,070
than anyone should have to be subjected
to. But at any rate, that'll about do it

3722
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:16,080
to. But at any rate, that'll about do it
 

3723
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,990
to. But at any rate, that'll about do it
for now. This debunk was lighter on the

3724
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:18,000
for now. This debunk was lighter on the
 

3725
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,990
for now. This debunk was lighter on the
science than the first two because Avi

3726
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:20,000
science than the first two because Avi
 

3727
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,390
science than the first two because Avi
hasn't been able to launch another

3728
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:21,400
hasn't been able to launch another
 

3729
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,309
hasn't been able to launch another
full-scale round of grifting yet. He

3730
01:08:23,309 --> 01:08:23,319
full-scale round of grifting yet. He
 

3731
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:25,309
full-scale round of grifting yet. He
coasted on Atlas as long as humanly

3732
01:08:25,309 --> 01:08:25,319
coasted on Atlas as long as humanly
 

3733
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:27,190
coasted on Atlas as long as humanly
possible, and he's been doing nothing

3734
01:08:27,190 --> 01:08:27,200
possible, and he's been doing nothing
 

3735
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,030
possible, and he's been doing nothing
but damage control this whole calendar

3736
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:29,040
but damage control this whole calendar
 

3737
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,110
but damage control this whole calendar
year due to his reputation being in the

3738
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:31,120
year due to his reputation being in the
 

3739
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,309
year due to his reputation being in the
[\h__\h] toilet. Kind of like public

3740
01:08:33,309 --> 01:08:33,319
[\h__\h] toilet. Kind of like public
 

3741
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,230
[\h__\h] toilet. Kind of like public
opinion towards Israel. Funny how that

3742
01:08:35,230 --> 01:08:35,240
opinion towards Israel. Funny how that
 

3743
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,590
opinion towards Israel. Funny how that
works, huh? Maybe he'll bounce back with

3744
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:37,600
works, huh? Maybe he'll bounce back with
 

3745
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,710
works, huh? Maybe he'll bounce back with
some brand new alien claim soon, and

3746
01:08:39,710 --> 01:08:39,720
some brand new alien claim soon, and
 

3747
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,349
some brand new alien claim soon, and
we'll have to do another in-depth video

3748
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:41,359
we'll have to do another in-depth video
 

3749
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:43,470
we'll have to do another in-depth video
to debunk them. But in the meantime, you

3750
01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:43,480
to debunk them. But in the meantime, you
 

3751
01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:45,349
to debunk them. But in the meantime, you
know I had to crap on him for flipping

3752
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:45,359
know I had to crap on him for flipping
 

3753
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:48,030
know I had to crap on him for flipping
out about me because that [\h__\h] was just

3754
01:08:48,030 --> 01:08:48,040
out about me because that [\h__\h] was just
 

3755
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,950
out about me because that [\h__\h] was just
too good.

3756
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:49,960
too good.
 

3757
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,430
too good.
So, that's it for Avi Loeb yet again. He

3758
01:08:52,430 --> 01:08:52,440
So, that's it for Avi Loeb yet again. He
 

3759
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,030
So, that's it for Avi Loeb yet again. He
just doesn't seem to know when to give

3760
01:08:54,030 --> 01:08:54,040
just doesn't seem to know when to give
 

3761
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,309
just doesn't seem to know when to give
up. Must be that pesky chosen people

3762
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:56,319
up. Must be that pesky chosen people
 

3763
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,590
up. Must be that pesky chosen people
mentality. Will he throw another tantrum

3764
01:08:58,590 --> 01:08:58,600
mentality. Will he throw another tantrum
 

3765
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,110
mentality. Will he throw another tantrum
about this video? Or will he he

3766
01:09:00,110 --> 01:09:00,120
about this video? Or will he he
 

3767
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,430
about this video? Or will he he
distracted by a new script of lies soon

3768
01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:02,440
distracted by a new script of lies soon
 

3769
01:09:02,440 --> 01:09:04,430
distracted by a new script of lies soon
to be unveiled. We'll just have to wait

3770
01:09:04,430 --> 01:09:04,440
to be unveiled. We'll just have to wait
 

3771
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:07,920
to be unveiled. We'll just have to wait
and see. Until next time.