Hey everyone, it's time for another
reaction video, and we've got a fun one
for you here, uh, today. So, uh, I think
a lot of you guys saw my recent two-part
series debunking Bart Crell, the, uh,
premiier moonlanding denier. Uh, those
were some very fun pieces. Uh, I had put
that one off for a while and then I
finally decided to, uh, dig into it and
I'm glad I did because it was a gold
mine. Those were some fun that was some
fun content to make there. Um, so now
many of you are aware that the uh Aremis
2 mission is happening at the right now
actually. I mean certainly right now at
the time that I'm filming this, they're
uh they're right around uh they're
they're in lunar orbit right now. Uh
this will come out in a few days. So
they'll probably be, you know, just
about getting back. But u the the
internet is a buzz talking about Artemis
2. It's very exciting. It's the first
time uh humans have been uh all the way
out to the moon. Even though they're not
landing Artemis 3, they'll land on the
lunar surface. Artemis 2, they are just
going uh just uh to test some stuff uh
test the new equipment and everything.
And uh so the all the moon landing
deniers and flat-earthers and everybody
are going absolutely insane uh because
the existence of this mission just kind
of ruins uh everything that they ever
say and do. Uh and so we're going to
talk a little bit about uh Artemis. I'm
going to do probably more content later
about Artemis. I might do a piece uh
just making fun of all the flat-earthers
that are freaking out about uh about
Artemis and just going fake fake fake
fake fake with zero basis because that's
the funniest thing in the entire world.
And uh I probably will also do some
content in more in earnest just talking
about the Aremis mission. Maybe an
interview uh just to kind of you know we
don't have to talk about flat earth like
there's a lot to talk about. Artemis'
very interesting uh mission and uh we
want to talk about what's going to
happen with Artemis 3 as well. So that
might happen too. But first I wanted to
do do uh to do this reaction video
because Bart Sabre went on Piers Morgan
uh in the midst of of all the all the
hype about Artemis and uh is there to
defend his his uh his life's work as it
were. Um and uh and and judging from the
title here, I don't think it went too
well for him. Now, uh as is usually the
case, uh I had been corresponding with a
with a producer on Pierce uh for quite
some time about this. He wanted me to
debate Bart on Pierce. Uh and I
immediately said absolutely. And then
what I imagine happened is that Bart uh
they told Bart and he obviously is aware
of my recent content on him and said no
way am I going to uh interact
with that guy who will demolish me in 10
seconds flat and humiliate me. Um so you
won't be surprised who they got instead
of me. Uh I didn't hear back and then
and then I saw this episode so I was
like oh great. All right. That was the
one uh that I should have done. Uh, and
then uh, so yeah, but the title is
You're full of Piers Morgan takes
down Moonlanding denier Artemis 2
debate. So, uh, it seems like probably
this is one of the rare moments where,
uh, Piers is proudly championing the
side of, uh, logic and reality and, uh,
just decided that, uh, you know, this is
one instance in which he's going to show
everyone how smart and and and and, you
know, in favor of science he is. Um, so
uh, anyway, this one's going to be fun.
It's it's it's a 45 46 minute piece.
It's about 10:50 right now. Um, yeah, I
I I we'll see how quickly we can cruise
through this, but I I felt very
confident after having done that
two-part series. Um, and Bart, I know,
is just going to spew his normal talking
points. So, this is this is a this is a
slam dunk reaction video. So, uh, that's
what this one is going to be. So, we are
reacting to Bart Sabre on Piers Morgan
with a few other, uh, interesting
guests. So, let's go ahead and get
started right now.
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>> The most powerful government in the
world falsified their alleged greatest
accomplishment. They did indeed fake the
moon landing. I want to treat Bart as a
colleague, maybe not as an equal about
with our friend.
>> Oh my goodness.
>> If you would let me teach you some
physics, then you can make your argument
stronger. Charlie Duke is
>> Yeah. So uh yeah. Uh so they got
Keading. Uh Keading is uh as many of you
know, a gigantic joke. Uh he is
constantly platforming and ball licking
Eric Weinstein. He is affiliated with
Discovery Institute. Uh he is being
featured in their new uh feature film
coming out, their giant uh propaganda
theatrical release that's coming out
pretty soon. I'll probably do something
on that because it's a complete joke. Uh
and he also took down he he interviewed
me once and then took it down off of his
channel because I was badmouthing
Discovery Institute in it. So he's
getting certainly uh some some dark
money from the DI. He's a complete joke,
but even for him, this one is going to
be a slam dunk. like he he's like, "Oh,
great. Let me do this one so I can uh
you know uh kind of influence my my
reputation in a in a more positive light
and defund defend the moon landing." So,
they got uh Keading here and then this
that looked like a pretty funny clip. Uh
Bart's like sarcastically, I'm not your
equal. Yeah, he's actually he is a
fraud, but he's also a scientist. He is
a real scientist. You're a fraud and a
science illiterate So, I'm sorry.
you are not his equal. Uh, and then
let's check out this next bit.
>> Is an Apollo astronaut, the 10th and
youngest man to walk on the surface of
the moon. What do you feel about the
conspiracy theorists who think the moon
landings were all invented? They never
happened. They're fake.
>> You're willfully ignorant if you don't
believe that we landed on the moon.
>> What is the mindset of somebody who
said, "Well, it didn't really happen."
That's like the denial of humanity.
These crazy individuals shouldn't have
our attention. given this is the
furthest that
>> I agree William Shatner they shouldn't
have our attention but they do get they
garner the attention of many many many
people so they must be dealt with and
that was Charlie Duke if you watched
part two of my s miniseries debunking
Bart uh they he was on the Danny Jones
podcast they were on there together uh
and just like he's doing here I mean
Charlie's very very old and you know it
was land walked on the moon arguably a
hero Uh, so we shouldn't expect too too
much from him. It's really always just
kind of this like this is crazy that
people wouldn't believe this. And yes,
it is crazy. Yes, it is crazy, but we
need some actual debunking. Uh, so uh
people are not convinced by um, you
know, emotionally charged uh, uh,
rhetoric uh, in support of the moon
landing. The the claims must be
debunked. So uh, Charlie doesn't do a
whole lot of that. I can't imagine
Shatner Shatner is going to do a whole
lot of that. They're just going to kind
of uh talk about how ridiculous Bard is,
which is all well and good. Um, so yeah,
let's check it out. NASA have ever sent
a rocket. Presumably, you think this
must be fake, too.
The Arteimus 2 mission to the dark side
of the moon will be the furthest human
beings have ever traveled from Earth.
It's a precursor to a full return to the
lunar surface and perhaps even reaching
Mars. But for this trip, historic though
it is, there will be no landing, no
walking, no flags planted. Very much
like unlike the Apollo mission 50 years
ago.
>> Yeah. So quick quick aside here. Uh a
lot of uh moon landing deniers are like,
"This is so ridiculous. They went to the
moon 50 years ago and now they're not
even landing on it. They're just going
to do a flyby." Uh yeah. So there's this
thing called uh caution, right? You take
precautions. It's new equipment, right?
When during the Apollo missions, uh,
which number Apollo mission first put
humans on the lunar surface, Apollo 11,
right? That's the 11th mission in the
Apollo program. Now, not every single
one, some of them were, you know,
adjusting hardware and stuff like that,
but Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 did manned
flybys. So, Apollo's 8 and 10, there
were humans inside the spacecraft and
they did not go down to the lunar
surface. Eight just went around and then
10 deployed the lunar module but didn't
land it right. It tested the lunar
module went down kind of skimmed you
know a dozen or two dozen kilometers
above the lunar surface. I don't
remember exactly how much and then came
back up to rendevu with the control
module. So that's two uh manned missions
around the moon without landing. Okay.
So this is Artemis uh Artemis one just
went up to orbit. Artemis 2 is is
testing. It's all new stuff, right?
They're not taking the They're not
taking the same craft from the from the
60s and 70s, right? This is Orion is a
completely new spacecraft. So, it's
everything is new. All the equipment,
everything is new. So, they're testing
it one time. They're testing it one
time. They're going to go around to make
sure everything's working great. And
then Artemis 3, the third mission in
this series of missions, will put humans
on on the lunar surface. I believe in
2028. I don't remember exactly what the
timeline is. Uh I'll do a dedicated
Artemis uh you know video later with
lots of facts. This is just to dunk on
Bart. Um and the people who say these
ridiculous things like, "Oh my gosh,
it's so silly. Why can't they land on
Cuz they're testing dude. It's not
like we don't NASA isn't just like,
it'll be fine. Chance it. No, come on.
It's gonna shut up. It'll it's it don't
worry about it. Just go. Just land.
What's the worst that could happen?
People dying. Astronauts dying in a
failed mission is the worst that could
happen. It almost happened on Apollo 13,
remember? Uh so yeah, that's just uh
that's something to keep in mind here.
In a moment, we'll talk to the man who
says he's on a CIA hit list because he
blew the whistle on what he says are the
original moon landings being fake. But
first, let's talk to the chancellor's
distinguished professor of physics at UC
San Diego and host of the Into the
Impossible podcast. Uh, welcome to you,
Professor Keiting. How are you?
>> Good to see you again, Pierers.
>> Well, good to see you. Uh, I'm obviously
about to talk to, uh, Bart Simbril. He's
made himself pretty infamous by ending
up being punched by Buzz Uldren for
questioning to his face that he l he uh
walked on the moon or and being part of
that of course that first immortal trip.
What is before we get to him, what is
your view of people that just don't want
to believe this has ever happened?
>> I think it's uh it's something we need
to take very seriously but not
literally. In other words, there are
reasons you could you could say there
there could be reasons why NASA and
maybe the US government and maybe even
the CIA would want to put a whack on
BART as I've heard him describe it. Um
perhaps, you know, there there are some
mistruths that our government tell from
time to time. But in order to believe
the moon landings of the 1960s and '7s
were fake, you need to believe a whole
host of things that not only require
vast conspiracy numbers involving
hundreds of thousands of people, you
need to suspend your scientific
reasoning and your ability to search for
truth. You know, peers, we we live in an
age that's sometimes called post-truth
or post fact where you're entitled to
your own, you know, ideas and theories,
but but in reality, what worries me more
is not that people get facts wrong. I
mean, that happens all the time. Happens
to me all the time as a scientist, but
it's that we undermine the process of
truth seeeking that no society can
withstand. So, I'm hoping to talk to
Bart. You know, he's he he knows about
me. Um, I've I've invited him to to chat
on my podcast and and he's turned it
down for reasons that I don't
understand. So, I'm eager to talk to him
because I think it's instructive for the
public to see not only the great
triumphs, but why we know for certain
that these things happen and why it
speaks to not only American
exceptionalism, but humanity's
exceptionalism.
>> American exceptionalism. Yeah. Uh so
Keading obviously grandstanding about
the scientific process uh while uh
collaborating with Discovery Institute,
a disgusting toxic Christian propaganda
mill that lies non-stop about every
field of science. Uh so that's great.
That's great for him. Although of course
in this case he will be the voice of
reason. Um I don't like this uh the idea
that this that that it's it's credible
that the CIA would have Bart on a hit
list. How idiotic is that? The CIA is
not thinking about Bart Sabrell. He's a
pointless loser. Uh there's just they
nobody nobody cares about Bart. Nobody
cares about Bart. If the CIA wanted to
kill Bart Sabrell, he would have been
dead 40 years ago. uh this this thing of
Bart like uh you know go if you haven't
seen him go watch my I think it's part
two uh where he's just again telling
these stories of like they they shut my
car down with a with an EMP and then I
outran their cars on foot and then they
but they got me and they gave me a truth
serum and then but then I broke out of
the CIA prison and ran away and then I
guess they can't find me for forever
after that. They just I don't know. I
guess that like they maybe they keep
trying to find me and I keep running
away. The CIA can kill anyone in the
whole world. They can kill political
leaders like that. Uh they can kill Bart
Zabrell if they want to. Uh so let's not
lend any credence to this idea that he's
on some kind of kill list. That's
insane.
>> You know what? Well, we'll come back and
discuss Artemis specifically in a bit,
but given you've teed this up very
nicely, and we have Bart Silhing.
Joining me now is Bart Srivil, who has
been what many viewers a conspiracy
investigator about the moon landing,
saying they're fake. Uh, he even
confronted, as I said, Basel. Where
where is he? Why Why is he in a
cave? Why is it pitch black around him?
Where is he calling in from? He's
calling from his uh secret hideway where
where the CIA can't find him on an
encrypted uh connection, I think. Right.
Is that what's going on,
>> Britain? Let's take a look at what
happened then.
>> Yeah.
>> You got to keep cheating, man.
>> Okay. Well, you can put on your
shoulder. Don't be shy.
>> Just come with me, Buzz.
>> You really like your pictures, don't
you?
>> You're the one who said you walked on
the moon when you didn't. Calling a
kettle black if I've ever thought of it.
Saying I misrepresented myself away from
me. You're a coward and a liar and a
thief.
>> Well, Bart joins me now. Uh, welcome to
Uncensored. I've actually met Buzz
Aldrin. All I remember is he had one of
the hardest handshakes I've ever
encountered on any human being ever. So,
you were quite courageous there, B.
>> That checks out. Uh,
uh, but also uh, no, Bart was not
courageous. And they also removed uh
well okay it's not like they're going to
play the whole clip. It's a you know
it's a segment but um Bart was harassing
Buzz for several minutes following him
all around that property. I think it's a
hotel or or a restaurant or something.
Um yeah, he was just blatantly harassing
uh Buzz and he deserved that punch uh
more than anyone I've ever uh seen take
a punch like that. And uh it's music to
my ears every time.
albeit as you were calling uh one of the
great modern heroes a coward. Why are
you so obsessed about branding the lunar
landings fake?
>> Well, because one of the most historic
events in human history isn't putting a
man on the moon. It's that the most
powerful government in the world that
hypocritically claims to represent truth
and justice falsified their alleged
greatest accomplishment. They did indeed
fake the moon landing. And Brian, first
time I've ever seen you speak, he's
obviously highly intelligent and a very
reasonable person. Unfortunately, people
want to believe a tanalyzing lie like
their team ran or won the Super Bowl.
what he's, you know, he claims I'm
denying scientific reasoning, but
actually he's doing that because it's
never happened in the history of the
world that a milestone technologically
occurred like let's say flying across
the Atlantic in 1927
or breaking the sound barrier or
splitting the first atom. It's never
happened in the history of the world
that more than 50 years later, no one
could accomplish it. What hopefully will
happen? Yeah. I mean, they're they're
doing it right now, right? Uh can't
accomplish it. They landed six times.
They put they put people on there six
times and they left a bunch of equipment
to keep taking uh data. How many
times are they supposed to go? Are they
supposed to go every year indefinitely
spending billions and billions and
billions of dollars that they don't have
because of all the budget cuts to NASA
immediately after, you know, when when
the Apollo program ended. Um, it it just
this is the dumbest script ever and it's
all he's got. Every single example is
the same every single time. Cross the
Atlantic, blah blah blah, all this
Uh, it's absolutely ridiculous. And it's
and he's saying this in the during
Artemis 2 being on the way uh to the
moon or I don't know remember exactly
when this was filmed. Probably a few
days before this uh was being published.
So, they probably hadn't launched yet.
But um what do you want, man?
Uh and and the the the idea that Brian
is denying science, give me a
break, dude. The all of the all of the
footage from the lunar surface cannot be
faked. It proves that they went there.
Uh all the with the shadows that
you do, it's all bunch of crap. all the
moon rocks, every all of the all of the
physical features of the moon rocks, uh
isotopic ratios and all that stuff that
I discussed in my in in my uh in my uh
two-part miniseries. Uh that is what
Bart is denying. Uh and we'll see how
much of that we get into. I can't
imagine we'll get into too much of it,
but hopefully some of it
>> today. Well, you know, let me let me I'm
up against we've heard your side of the
story for 57 years. I I would love to
just comment on that because I have I
have actual experience with an event
that happened and it was separated by
six years. I reached the South Pole
twice in 2007 and 2009. Do you know who
the first people to reach the South Pole
were? Bart
>> well admonson Scott.
>> Yeah, that's right. And you know was
from Norway
>> took four
was the first way to ever reach it. And
we didn't go back for 50 years until
1964. Bart, we didn't go back for 50
years. Exactly like what happened. Was
it harder? Have I never been to the
South Pole? Bart,
>> I don't know. I mean, I presume that you
have video evidence of me there.
>> I'll
not denying that. The the fact is we
have
>> But you just made a claim that nothing
gets hard, nothing gets easier unless
it's technologically true.
>> You're saying I'd like to offer my own
Well, hang on.
>> I'm not getting much time to share.
Pierce just interrupting right at the
moment when Brian is nailing him with
something.
No, they didn't go back for 50 years.
Okay. Well, they didn't go back to the
South Pole for 50 years. Is it Did they
Did they fake the first South Pole
visit? It's a pretty decent point. It's
a pretty good uh It's a pretty good
shutdown here. And Piers is like, I
can't have that. I need to be talking
now.
>> But but hang on. I'd like to offer my
own uh contribution to that debate
because I personally went on the last
Concord flight uh which was about 20
years ago. Um and uh we have gone
backwards in the speed of of passenger
air travel because it now takes twice as
long for me to get to New York as it did
20 years ago. So there's another
example.
>> The question is are there are there
aircraft that fly higher and faster than
the Concord? And there are
>> not with passengers.
>> Well, people are on board the
>> they're not with commercial there's no
commercial plane.
>> There's no commercial plane that can get
to New York in there's no commercial
and a half hours. Roy Concord did it in
2 hours 58. So the premise of your
argument
>> there's no commercial plane that can get
to the moon. Uh that's that is something
that just came came out of his dumb
mouth is that uh his big flex is that a
plane a plane an airplane a commercial
airplane with wings that flies based on
Bernui's principle and air atmosphere
pushing the the wing the pressure
pushing up on the wings that can't go to
the moon through space where there's no
atmosphere that's a thing that he
decided that he should say publicly
right now incredible
>> and is flawed because you've I've
already heard one example from Brian.
You've heard one from me. I'm sure there
are myriad other examples, but I'm just
keen before we we we get too far into
the weeds on that part of it. You said
here about uh the lunar landings. In
order to appreciate the full absurdity
of the lie, it bears repeating what both
the US government and NASA claimed in
the 60s. on the very first attempt to
and all with one millionth computing
power of a cell phone, they've been able
to send astronauts to orbit and land on
the surface of the moon, a distance that
is 1,000 times farther than they can
achieve with human space flight today.
It if to buy into your conspiracy theory
about this that it never happened, the
sheer volume of people who must have
signed up to this conspiracy, right, is
overwhelming.
>> So look, this angle is true, right? You
can say this for moonlanding denial and
you can say this a thousandfold for flat
earth, but it's just it's not a good
argument to go with because all they
have to do is go that's how powerful the
conspiracy is. It's all the way to the
top and the evil lizard people blah blah
blah Illuminati blah blah blah and it
just kind of ends that right. I mean the
the it is correct to bring up this
angle. It's just not the mo like it's
much more more convincing to nail him on
the technical about everything he
lies about. Like like what was that
quote right there? Um what was it? It
was uh one oh on the first try. Uh it
was on the 11th try, you idiot.
Uh with 1,000th the computing power blah
blah blah. The computing power is in
mission control, not on the
shuttle, right? They don't need a lot of
computing power. And it was all analog
anyway. Um, and then a thousandth the
distance a thousand times the distance
of blah blah blah. Yeah, why the
would a shuttle go halfway to the moon
and back? It doesn't make any sense,
right? You're either going to orbit or
you're going to the moon. There's no in
between. Um, so it it's better to
deconstruct all that rhetoric and then
point out all of his lies about the
about the shadows on the lunar surface
and and uh Van Allen belts and all that
It's better to deconstruct all
that stuff, but it that's very very
technical. Almost certainly way too
technical for Piers's audience. So, he's
going with this. That's fine.
>> Why has none of them Why have none of
the people that were part of the lie?
Why have none of them broken ranks to
say this was all faked?
>> Bart says they did, right? In all of my
stories when I interview the mother of
the blah blah blah and the CIA and she
said that the thing was there and they
got they killed Gus Gryom. CIA was all
it's all unverifiable anecdotes, right?
That's all. So, he can say, "Yes, that
did happen. I have stories that I made
up uh that that prove all of this,
right?" But it's all anecdotal,
obviously.
Well, first of all, you're incorrect. I
spoke to Eugene Crance, flight director.
He said that someone in the command
center cannot tell the difference
between a quote rehearsal flight and a
quote real flight. Just because there's
400,000 bank tellers at Bank of America,
what a bank teller knows about
corruption in the bank and what the CEO
knows are completely different. There's
only three eyewitnesses to every program
and who knows where they're really
going. The fact is we did have someone
come forward. Two people came forward.
Betty Gryom, the widow of the man who
was going to be the first man to walk on
the moon. I interviewed her for four
hours before she died. I bet Brian did
not do that. She told me that her
husband called her on January 26th, 1967
from NASA and said, "Han, for some
strange reason, the CIA is over the
launchpad today inspecting the
equipment. I've been here eight years,
never seen them." Got any recording of
her saying that or is this just a story?
It's always always just stories. It's
Bart saying somebody said a thing every
time. every time. Um, and Gus
Gryom, that was Apollo one. Uh, I don't
think he was in line. They weren't
planning the the the lunar surface
landing at that time. It was Apollo one.
Uh, all right, man. This is ridiculous.
>> Why did they show up? That never
happened. It never happened. Even your
own testimony says that she's a liar.
>> Allow Brian to respond to that, please.
Brian, she never said that.
>> Finished speaking. He interrupted me.
Allow me to finish. do a favor. I want
to I want to do you a favor. I think
what you do is important. I think as I
said originally, I think it's important
to question things. Certainly certainly
the government lies to us. Certainly.
>> Oh, thank you.
>> Hold on one second. Uh but what uh Betty
Gryom said, she said they were all over
the CIA was in the mission command
center. She never said that. If you go
back and look at your own transcripts,
she said didn't say they were on the
launch pad. They no one had access to
the launch pad because it was full of
rocket fuel. So they wouldn't even let
the technicians near it as you know. But
Bart, I think you have much stronger
evidence and I I don't know why you're
leading with the things that are most
easily deflated. I'd love to talk about
what you claim is strong evidence so we
could interview Betty Gris for four
hours before she died.
>> Did Did you say But I've read your
transcripts. I've read transcripts by
you and by her and from other interview
she did say that they were CIA. She
never said they were crawling over the
launch pad. And does that
>> but it's not what she said. you're lying
and that's why you're flailing right
now. And you're trying to talk over him
to pres prevent him from uh and and is
so Brian has this thing he's doing. He's
like, "But you have much better
evidence. You have better evidence. Can
we please talk about the shadows on the
lunar surface, right? He he's baiting
him into bringing up something that can
be empirically disproven, right? It's uh
he Brian doesn't want to talk about his
unverifiable anecdotes beyond uh
pointing out that he's lying about about
what she said, right? He read the
transcripts and she didn't say that. So
yeah, this is fun.
>> That you weren't even alive at the time.
That's what she told me and
>> Let me ask you,
let me let me ask you, what is the what
is the most convincing piece of evidence
you have that it was faked?
Well, I have the crew of Apollo 11
faking being halfway to the moon using a
one foot model of the Earth. And I have
the CIA on a third track of audio
telling to fake a 4-se secondond radio
delay from Earth orbit. And then we have
the eyewitness testimony of a deathbed
confession of Cyrus Eugene Anchors who
straight to another anecdote, right?
It's uh every time, man. He just
can't do it. He just can't I mean, he
tries, right? this whole I mean we
talked about this for 20 minutes in in I
think both of the videos on him. Uh it's
just footage of them taking pictures of
the Earth on on route to the moon.
That's it. Uh it's literally just that
and he just makes up a bunch of
And then we also showed how he doctorred
that audio where you know it's somebody
from the CIA saying talk. Uh yeah it's
it all it's just a bunch. I mean yeah
we're not going to reiterate everything.
Go check out those two videos if you
missed them.
>> Saw them film it at Canon Air Force Base
in 1968. He even confessed to killing
somebody to cover it up because the NSA
asked him to do so. That's a strange
thing to be saying.
>> You've also you've also claimed I'll
come to you Brian in a second, but
you've also claimed uh you described
what you call as anomalous shadows that
are not parallel, suggesting multiple
artificial light sources in a studio
rather than a single distant sun. So
these photographs that we're looking at
now, you think are indicative of fakery?
>> Okay. So, real quick, I mean, so I think
this is what Bart was trying to avoid
because he got ruined on this on the
Danny Jones podcast as we as we covered
uh and we've talked about this quite a
bit as well. So, we'll see h how Bart
tries to he's probably going to try to
dodge this and change the subject. Um,
and we'll see what Brian has queued up
to to demolish him. But once again, uh,
the picture on the left, uh, is taken
from the side of both of those. If you
were in between the poles, you would see
that they converge, right? When you when
you have a the
railroad tracks appear to converge in
the distance, right? They don't. They're
parallel. It's a optical effect.
So, he very deliberately took that
picture to the side of both of them to
make it look a certain way. Uh, and then
the one on the right he uses every
single time this one because that rock
has kind of a special shape where it's
uh it's narrower at the base and then is
more elongated to one side as it goes
up. So the the shadow appears to be more
lateral than it is, but it's not. Uh
it's nowhere near 90°. He calls it 90°.
Not even the arrows he superimposed on
there are 90° and those are not uh
pointing at the direction of the shadow.
They're converging. If you had one local
source behind you, uh they would be uh
diverging. Uh and uh and if you had
multiple uh lights to get shadows in
different directions, each object would
have multiple shadows. So we talked
about this for like 15 20 minutes. Uh
this was utterly eviscerated. He has
absolutely nothing. This is one of the
easiest ways to prove Bart wrong is to
demonstrate that uh not just this but
all of the every single image every
single image the entire lunar lunar
surface is evenly lit. Uh there are no
multiple shadows. Uh it is absolutely
impossible to do that in in any kind of
sound stage. That is definitely all of
it is lit by the sun. And it's not just
images. There's footage. There's footage
too. You've got the lunar rover driving
around. Uh, another thing that proves
that they were on the moon is the ju
just the ballistics of of the of the
dust that's getting kicked up by the by
the by the wheels and stuff. The the the
parabolic arc and the way it falls. It
is absolutely it cannot be done on
anything other than 16th Earth's gravity
with no atmosphere, right? It's it's
it's a near vacuum. Um, just every like
all of the lunar footage and images and
everything cannot be faked. It just
can't. That proves that they went
to the moon. Um, and so that's why he
only shows this one image every single
time because that rock is just a little
bit funny and the and the shadow appears
to uh converge more than it would if it
was like a cube or something like that.
It's unique to the shape of the rock.
So, let's see uh if they can if they can
on this a little bit. Well, let me
also say I went from being the biggest
fan greater fan than Brian. I had a
shrine of Apollo pictures in my house
for decades. And a filmmaker's job is to
make fake scenes look real. Go back to
the picture and look how shadows should
be in sunlight. The sun, it's a million
times bigger than the Earth in volume.
It's 93 million miles away. It's going
to cast shadows in the same direction on
the Earth or the Moon. There's two
telephone poles about 5T apart. The
shadows are parallel. Here's a picture
that claim was taken on the moon. That
just said parallel just
like David Weiss and they and they look
the same. They I think they must be they
must uh go to the same country club or
something parallel. Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah,
we've debunked this part. We've we've
debunked this to to high heaven of
objects 5t apart. The astronaut shadows
at 12:00. The rock 5t away. The shadows
at 9:00. That can only happen with a
close electrical light. We just proved
with one photograph that they faked the
moon landing despite
>> So you're going with one. So when you
were on Danny Jones and you got you got
bodied with the very obvious uh uh
demonstration that a local light source
immediately behind him would cause
diverging uh shadows. Then you retreated
to the multiple lights angle which also
does not work. There would be multiple
shadows. If you tried to comp the image
together, the gradient of the shading
would not line up. Uh, so on Danny
Jones, you were going with the multiple
lights. Now you're going with the single
light source behind. Doesn't make any
sense. The shadows would diverge. Uh,
you can you you can only trick people
with zero spatial reasoning with this
angle. Bart,
>> what anybody says, despite what the
corrupt federal government says, that
picture cannot be duplicated in
sunlight. It can only be duplicated with
means they're on Earth, which means they
didn't go to the moon. I'm sorry to
bring you the bad news.
>> No, no, that's your claim. Brian Keing,
your response.
>> Well, I again I I want to I want to
treat Bart as as a colleague, maybe not
as an equal, but I want to treat him
fairly. And I want to say Bart, you have
much better evidence that I've heard you
talk about with our
>> Oh my goodness.
>> Well, I don't think you're a trained
scientist, Bart. I mean, if I go to my
Wikipedia,
>> I don't think you're a trained
cinematographer either. That's right.
When I go to my my Wikipedia page, it
says
>> electrical light.
>> Okay, Bart. When I go to my Wikipedia
page, people can see that I'm listed as
a professor of astrophysics with 40
years of experience. When they go to
your page, it says conspiracy theorist.
So, I I don't want to say that we're
equal because we're not we're not in the
same league. I I will treat you like a
peer. I will give you an expert review
of what you're talking about. But what I
want to tell you very clearly is being
deceived. Your league is paring back
what you're told.
>> I want to No, I want to use your own
words. I want to I want to treat you
seriously, Bart. I want to say that you
have talked to Candace Owens on her
podcast and you described what she later
called the firmament, the asteroid belt,
and then later the Van Allen belts. This
is one key piece of qualitative but
quantitative evidence that you have
presented which I think deserves
attention. You've claimed the Van Allen
belts are deadly and they are not
survivable and NASA knew that
themselves. Correct.
>> Okay. Yeah. just you you
Brian, you're supposed to debunk this
shadow right? All you had to do
was point out on the left he's
conveniently to the side of them. If he
was in between them, he would see them
converge. Uh like I'm not going to
repeat myself. You were supposed to say
all that that I just said. Uh okay,
let's move on to the Van Allen belts or
whatever this part is. I guess that's
fine.
>> Incorrect part.
>> Well, show the clip. What clip number is
it here? Rate. Let's hear it in NASA's
own mouth. Uh,
>> well, well, we've got the clip. Hang on.
Hang on. We've got the clip. Let's play
the clip. So, the the Van Allen
radiation belts, you've argued the
radiation surrounding Earth is so
extreme, it would have been lethal for
any human to pass through, making the
journey impossible. So, let's take a
look at
take a look.
>> We're going to play the clip.
>> Okay.
>> My name is Kelly Smith and I work on
navigation and guidance for Orion. We
are every time with this clip.
this same clip and he can't just play
the one from the actual uh for the
actual footage. He has to play the
sabrel.com. I'm surprised he hasn't
plugged his uh website 18 times already
in the first 10 minutes. Uh okay, let's
watch this clip for the fifth time.
Headed 3600 miles above Earth,
15 times higher from the planet than the
International Space Station.
As we get further away from Earth, we'll
pass through the Van Allen belts, an
area of dangerous radiation.
Radiation like this could harm the
guidance systems, onboard computers, or
other electronics on Orion. Naturally,
we have to pass through this danger zone
twice. See, every time he says it
himself, it can harm the electronics,
right? the uh uh the for the Apollo
missions, all that was analog. Now
we have digital equipment in the Orion
spacecraft. Totally different equipment,
right? Totally different situation. So
they have to ensure that that it's not
going to get damaged by the radiation.
He doesn't say it's going to murder all
the people, right? Uh so Bart has to do
this thing where he puts his he he
superimposes his his own text. He puts
deadly in parenthesis. Uh he added that
that's not what the guy said. Um and he
he I mean just he has no idea what the
Van Allen belts are. He has no idea what
radiation comprises them. Uh he ju he
continually treats it like uh X-rays.
It's not X-rays. It's not made
of photons. It's high energy protons
which can be which are massive. They can
be stopped uh the they have very low
penetrating power. They can be stopped
by piece of paper. So they sure as
can be stopped. the vast majority of
those uh of those protons can be stopped
by aluminum foil. So, uh they they are
protected. They were protected during
the Apollo missions and they're much
more protected now during the Orion
missions. It's a larger craft. I imagine
has thicker walls. I I I don't I'm not
entirely sure, but uh we'll see. So,
that's it. Uh let's just going to spew
his script again. The one that failed
miserably on Danny Jones. He's going to
see if he has any better luck here.
>> Once up and once back.
>> We must solve these challenges before we
send people through this region of
space. We must solve these challenges
before we send people through this
region of space.
>> We must solve these challenges.
>> So that that's your claim, Bob.
Professor Kading, what's your response
to that?
>> Well, it's not my claim. It's NASA's
claim. He said we must solve these
challenges before we send people through
this region of space. meaning the radio.
>> Okay. But in the Orion spacecraft, in
the Orion spacecraft, very very
carefully, he doesn't say because we've
never done it before. He never was.
>> Do you interrupt because I'm not in the
same league as you? And
>> shut the up, dude. You just got to
play your dumb clip and now Brian's
going to ruin you. Just let him do it.
Just shut up and let him do it.
>> You're better than me that you
>> No, we just played We just played an
extended clip that you produced about a
certain theory. So, Professor Katy would
not respond.
>> Right. So, a a whiteboard sketch by uh
some NASA engineer who is to my
knowledge not sketching the exact
schematics of the trajectory. He shows
and he describes the Van Allen belts are
deadly. And you're right, Bart, they are
deadly and NASA knew that because who
did na who did Van Allen work for? J Van
Allen worked for NASA. So, in order for
us to believe it, and he testified that
the Van Allen belts, if traversed
safely, were no threat to the astronauts
beyond getting a few chest X-rays, which
you and I probably do every year. Right.
So, I have a model of the Van Allen
belts here. Here's a plasma globe which
has electron plasma in it. 30,000. Hold
on, please. Now, you're not letting me
present scientific evidence. Okay. There
electrons in here that are at 30,000°
Kelvin. far hotter than the temperature
of the melting point of aluminum which
you talk about in that documentary which
I've seen many times to debunk it inside
of this plasma globe. The reason I don't
get melted is because the electron
density is tiny. It is anisotropic. If
you go at different regions through the
event Allen belts, it's completely safe.
And one last thing that that ast that
NASA engineer mentioned, he said it
could be dangerous to the navigation
systems, the electronics. Correct. That
means that according to you, we never
even sent electronics, telemetry,
anything through the Van Allen belts.
But you know who else agrees that we
did? The Soviets, our arch nemesis
peers. You may not know this. The same
day that we landed on the moon, the
Russians had a probe that they were
trying to return samples from the moon
like this moon rock that I have here.
And they were trying to return it to
Earth to beat us. And they ended up
crashing that spacecraft on July 21st,
1969. They failed to reach it, but they
agreed to coordinate with NASA. So they
didn't hit the Apollo lander because
they agreed that would be a much worse
thing. Now Pierers, can you imagine us
coordinating with Ayatollah Kamani right
now and he's going to congratulate us
tomorrow or tonight when the Artemis
mission lands? That's what ex goes
around the moon. That's exactly what
happened. So the best evidence Bart
doesn't come from America even. It comes
from the Chinese, from the Indians, from
the Russians who are our nemesis at the
time proving that we went there with
their own images, data and and
scientific evidence. So that's the way
we should do things as a scientifically
literate society.
>> Yeah. I mean, look, obviously that is
also true. It's just that he has his
angle. We're like, oh, they're we're uh
they're all of them are blackmailing us,
right? Oh, blah blah blah. Like he just
he anything that's kind of anecdotal, he
has his anecdotal response that makes no
sense. But when you go anecdote versus
anecdote, those who are who are
entranced by the conspiracy won't be
shaken by it. Right? need to do the you
need to do empirical You need to
disprove the sha you need to show
demonstrations with shadows like uh the
producer on the Danny Jones podcast and
then also that other video that we
played uh for that part showing just
demolishing the the shadows argument
with very clear uh visual demonstrations
that works better. You need to go with
that. Um, so with the Van Allen stuff, I
mean like we need to just we have to
talk a little bit more about Bart not
knowing what is in the Van Allen what
the what they are, right? What those
particles are, the penetrating power
like just got to get a little bit more
specific. I know it's not I mean it's a
peer's audience, but um as much as you
can, you kind of got to go that way. So,
uh, Bart had to had to shut up for a
second because he was trying to
interrupt him over and over again until
it became blatantly obvious that that's
what he was trying to do. Uh, so what's
his response to all that?
>> And your theory theory quite a bit of
facts, scientists, one of the facts
you're ignoring is that, uh, what is his
name? Rojin Ditri, he was the former
commander of the Soviet equivalent of
NASA. He said as soon as he retired the
moon missions were fake. And then I have
a friend who works at the Chinese Space
Agency. He says that they're
blackmailing NASA in exchange for
technology that Congress forbid them to
receive. Yeah. For all that technology
that didn't bring anyone to the moon.
All that all that garbage technology.
They're blackmailing America for access
to it uh in perpetuity for decades and
decades. Uh
yeah, you don't have any friend at the
Chinese Space Agency. Like all of this
is unverifiable anecdotes. That's it.
Some guy said that it was fake. Trust
me, bro. That's it. That's his whole
angle.
>> So we have
>> to the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist
anymore.
>> He has Wait a minute. We have the
Russian space director saying the moon
missions are fake. And we have a
employee of the Chinese space agency
saying they know the missions are fake
and are being blackmailed by the United
States. And your theory uh your theory
but about motivation your argument is
that the uh they were fate to ensure a
cold war victory for the US over the
Soviet Union. You contend that NASA was
under immense pressure to fulfill
President Kennedy's goal of landing a
man on the moon by the end of the 60s
but they lacked the ability
technologically to do it. What would be
the Cold War victory if if the USSR knew
that we didn't land there? wrap
your head around that. We Brian is
right. Like they everything was be like
you you there's no way for a shuttle to
go up into orbit and then just kind of
like hang out in orbit and say, "Oh
yeah, we're going to the moon. Totally.
Uh but don't look at us." Right?
Everything can be tracked, right? The
Soviets were tracking the lunar module
from Earth. We're tracking every motion
of the lunar module. They can see what's
going on from here. So, you better
believe that anybody can just
look up and I mean, not with with
eyeballs, but I'm saying so many
organizations and institutions could be
tracking a spacecraft that lied about
going to the moon and just stayed in
Earth orbit cuz where where is BART
pretending that it went? It just hung
out there for in orbit for like a for
for five, six days and then came down.
It doesn't make any goddamn sense. Uh
all of this right? Russia was
track the USSR was tracking it while it
was happening and then many other
countries in subsequent unmanned
missions got footage of the lunar
surface and and saw all of the
everything that we' left from all the
various landing sites. There's images of
it from
uh China, Korea, I think uh a bunch of
other ones uh India I think as well. Um,
so it's just none of it makes sense when
you actually think about it.
When you actually sit down and think
about it, right? Every single angle.
They're blackmailing us for the
technology that doesn't work cuz we
didn't go to the moon. They wanted to
win the Cold War, but the Soviets knew
that we didn't go. Uh, and how the
are we winning the Cold War? Like, none
of it works, man. None of it. According
to you, the risk of hope high-profile
failure and subsequent national
humiliation led the US government and
the CIA to stage the events in a studio
instead. To which my obvious question
would be a look, full disclosure, I
don't believe a word of it. However, uh
let's just assume for a moment your
theory is correct. Which studio? Where?
Where did they do this?
Well, I guess you weren't paying
attention when I said they filmed it at
Canon Air Force Base June 1st, 2nd, and
3rd of 1968, according to an eyewitness
who confessed to killing a coworker to
cover up the moon landing fraud.
>> Yeah, but hang on. Sorry. I did hear
what you said, but there were a number
of Luna landings. So, you're saying it
was all done in this one studio? Well,
no. We know we know that the first one,
the TV images were filmed at Canon Air
Force Base, according to an eyewitness
who confessed to a homicide that was
investigated by the military police, the
United States Senate Intelligence
Committee, and the FBI. And when they
investigated, they asked him why did he
kill his coworker at Canon Air Force
Base in 1968. He said to cover up the
moonlanding fraud. He took an oath by
the NSA for secrecy. his coworker was
going to tell the public and he killed
him to keep it a secret. And back to
whether the radiation belts are lethal
or not. Don't take
>> Hey, you're he's dodging he's changing
the subject again because Piers just
said they landed six times. So
how many they did every single time they
did this? Uh why would they do it six
times, by the way? Why would they tempt
fate and keep doing it? And so where did
the other five happen? Uh oh. But it's
okay. Bart has a story. Bart has a
story. So now shut up and let's move on.
Uh go back to the radiation belts. This
isn't going well. So let's go to
something else that also won't go well.
>> Take my opinion. Don't take Brian's
opinion. Go to sabrel.com and read Van
Allen's opinion. His document that
>> it took 20 minutes. It took 20 full
minutes for him to plug his website.
That is a huge improvement for Bart. I
think in the Danny Jones one and the
Rogan one, he must have dropped it. The
Rogan one especially, he dropped it like
a hundred times in that episode.
I'm not exaggerating.
>> That he published after sending probes
up into the radiation belts in 1958,
Scientific American article. And he says
they are 250 times a lethal dose. So
that is a probe. That is a pro. Okay,
first of all, so the that is an
unshielded probe, right? when you're
inside the spacecraft, the the walls of
the spacecraft, which he's pretending do
not shield the astronauts when they do.
Uh, and also uh the the yeah, the space
shuttle took uh so that's like the the
thickest part or the the the the highest
radiation uh part of the belts. So they
don't hit those. The space shuttles
don't go through those uh because they
don't have to. They just go they they
just kind of skim part of it. They're
only in there for about an hour. It's
not very dangerous. It just isn't. Uh so
does he mention that that that these
measurements are for the unshielded
probe versus astronauts inside a
spacecraft?
>> No, of course not. Why would he mention
that? That would demolish everything
he's saying because he's a fraud.
>> When they say we
>> that is depending on how you go through
it, Bart, if you go through a rainstorm
through the eye of a hurricane, it's
much different than going through the
outer outskirts of it where it's a nice
light London fog perhaps. It's very
different. belts are highly anotropic
hard. I want to teach you some physics.
If you if you would if you would let me
teach you some physics, then you can
make your argument stronger perhaps.
Okay. There's multiple Van Allen belts.
There's an inner Van Allen belt. There's
an outer Van Allen.
>> Teach me teach me professor who back.
>> I've heard you refuse to debate me.
Bart, I this is my only chance to debate
you. You refused to debate me on Joe
Rogan. You refused to debate me on I
never received an invitation to debate
you. Yes. You you you said you've
received the invitation on Danny Jones's
podcast and you said you don't want to
debate me because I'm a victim, much
like pedophilia victims. It was so
bizarre. I want to take my opportunity.
>> He asked me if I wanted to debate.
>> Just steamroll him, Brian. Just
steamroll him. Tell him to shut the
up and say what you were going to say
about the trajectory through the belts.
This guy is flailing. It is absolutely
hilarious. This is uh it's it's it's
pretty fun to watch. It's it's
bittersweet because it's Brian
doing it. Um but uh of the two of them,
I'm gonna side with Brian obviously
>> you and I said no because you're a
victim. You have Stockholm syndrome.
You're defending the people who are
deceiving you. You're not the
perpetrator of the Russian. Did the
pallet bureau the pallet bureau that
testified such a patronizing piece of
You're a victim. You're paritting.
You're par you couldn't pass a
middle school physics quiz, right?
Having scientific knowledge, possessing
real scientific knowledge isn't paring
anything. That's what science illiterate
cult leaders say to convince people that
real knowledge isn't worth anything. Uh
right, all of this is verifiable,
repeatable, empirical uh knowledge that
you can use to make predictions, right?
You can say, uh we've gathered all of
this information about the Van Allen
belt, so this is the trajectory we
should take. It is the tra trajectory
that they do take. He doesn't know what
the trajectory is. He doesn't even He
doesn't even know what radiation is. I
guarantee you if you said, "Bart, what's
radiation?" He'd go, "Uh uh uh well uh
Gus Gryom's widow said blah blah blah."
He would change the subject immediately.
He's uh stupid. Congratulations.
What happened on the moon? I
>> Why did the Russian
B? Do you mind if I just cut to the
quick here? Do you think you're just
full of mate?
What's that?
>> Do you think you're just full of
>> No, I don't think he does.
>> Is it all just a scam just to make
money, raise your profile,
>> spewing such obvious around the
>> It is, of course, peers. It is. Uh he
lies about the moonlanding for money. We
all know that. But and and it's funny.
It's funny to chuckle about it, but we
just when you're here with him, you have
to nail him to the ground. You
have to just like you can't let him keep
you got to hit him with the with the
fireworks here, you know? You got him
here. It's very rare that this guy is
going to show his face with people who
know what they're talking about. Um,
he's he's squirming around. He's gish
galloping. He's doing everything. You
have to nail him down and not let him
squirm away. Uh, so this isn't helping.
It's funny, but it's like this is a rare
opportunity. I bet he will not show his
face in this kind of a setting. Maybe
ever again after this. Well, who knows?
I mean, he's, you know, the the money
runs dry. He's got to make some public
appearances, but um, just come on, guys.
A little more
>> the world about something that everyone
knows happened
>> and you make yourself
boil it down for you.
>> Insulted Buzz Aldrin to the point he
punched you. I'm sorry if the truth
about corruption is insulting to people
who are flattered by it in a fallen
world. The fact is JFK's relatives say
with 100% certainty he was killed by the
CIA. Robert McNamer on his deathbed said
they started the Vietnam War and killed
58,220
of their own people on a CIA
fabrication. So they're killing tens of
thousands of their own people, killing
their own president.
>> Yeah, we know all that man. We
know all that Gulf of Tonkan, I
mean JFK, I don't know. Uh I have no
idea. Gulf of Tonkan is not a secret. We
all know this and we all know the
government lies all the time and murders
people all the time. It doesn't make the
moon landing fake. Uh it's not an
argument. It's a complete non-starter
and this is all you have is this
because you know that you
cannot talk about the radiation belts.
You cannot talk about the the shadows on
the moon. You cannot actually discuss
anything empirical. You have to go
towards this manipulative emotionally
manipulative rhetoric and conspiratorial
rhetoric. Government do bad things so
anything I say it must be true because
that uh that's it. That's all you've
got.
>> Wait a minute. So they're not going to
have a problem faking a TV image. The
only problem is that it's a positive
lie.
>> Okay. Just to be clear then to
extrapolate your theory to extrapolate
your theory given this is the furthest
that NASA have ever sent a rocket to the
dark side of the moon presumably you
think this must be fake too.
>> Oh no I hope I hope they are able to do
it. The issue is how
>> do you believe the rocket is is going to
be a genuine mission or a fake?
>> Does it have to go through the Van
Allen? I would assume it's going to be
genuine.
>> How does it get through the Van Allen?
>> Why is it Listen, the issue is
>> Hang on. No. How does it get through?
How does it get through the Van Allen
radiation belt?
>> I got two people not letting me finish
this in.
>> How does it get through?
>> The crybully right? The
every time these guys, they just want to
bully everyone. And the moment anyone
pushes back, this is what I deal with
with trolls in my comment section and
everything and all over the internet.
This toxicity all over the internet,
they just want to lie and cheat and
bully. And the moment they get that
energy back, they just crumble.
Why won't anyone let me talk? You're all
just talking over me and you're
interrupting me. You're so mean and why
can't I blah blah blah? It's
pathetic. It's revolting. It's revolting
to watch. Uh and I'm really glad to see
a larger portion of the internet
recognize this behavior and show zero
tolerance for it. I wish these
two would push back on it a little more
and even expose the tactic right now,
but this is all he's got. He can inter
he can interrupt anytime he wants. He
gets to talk and then Brian tries to
rebut and he's just talking the whole
time. But but anytime that he tr
that Piers is like, "Okay, Brian's turn
to talk." Well, you guys won't let me
talk. Blah blah blah. It's so
ridiculous, man. What a weasel. This
guy's such a little weasel.
>> Issue is the issue is the issue. Why is
it with six decades of better technology
>> they can only get 20% of what Apollo did
not
>> so do you accept the moon
>> but do you accept now that rocket space
rockets can get through the van Allen
radiation belt
>> unmanned ones and maybe they have
protection we know they didn't have
protection as of 2014 he said we must
solve these radiation challenges before
we send people through this region of
space which means anything prior to 2014
did not leave Earth orbit. He said so
himself. Okay, I'm sorry.
>> Do you think Elon Musk Do you think Elon
Musk is in or do you do you think Elon
Musk is deceiving himself?
>> Well, he knows the moon missions are
fake. He's playing ball. He didn't want
to bite the hand that feeds him.
>> So, he's he's all part of the
conspiracy, is he?
>> It's not a conspiracy. It's simply they
perpetrated a fraud. They did a
counterfeit. They cheated. Elon Musk
says to return to the moon, they're
gonna need 15 fuel launches first. I got
a clip here.
>> Yeah. Elon doesn't want to bite the hand
that feeds him. That's why when he had a
falling out with Trump, he went on, you
know, Trump's in the Epstein files.
Boom. Like Elon just he says whatever
the He's a lunatic. Uh he'll say
anything. You think that Elon would go
along with this uh instead of being this
like wild card full of bravado uh uh uh
you know wild west gunslinger that he
thinks he is? You think he wouldn't talk
about this It's
ridiculous. Uh yeah. Number five. A guy
who works for NASA says it's going to
take 30 launches of fuel in order to
have enough fuel to go to the moon. So
how did
>> Musk is not wrong. He's just talking
about a completely different
spacecraft. A gigantic spacecraft, a way
way way bigger spacecraft that will not
split apart into different modules and
have a little lunar module go. The whole
rocket has to go over there uh
and land and then take off again. It's a
completely different rocket. You
disingenuous piece of
>> Apollo do it with 130th the amount of
fuel. I mean it the truth is right there
in front of you. Final words to profess
better technology and they can only do
20% of what of what they claimed they
did with 1 million.
>> Okay, Professor can't even land.
>> Professor Kitting, final word to you
about the armatus 2, uh, mission.
>> Well, uh, I just want to say first of
all to fake the moon landings would have
been much more cost prohibitive,
difficult, and involve a much larger
conspiracy than actually doing them. We
have evidence from around the world
scientific where scientists are the most
likely people to want to shoot down
experts. Bart, this is where I I feel
like you're not taking advantage of me
as a collegial, you know, engagement
because we're the most interested in
proving things wrong. That's what we do
for a living, Bart. But on the topic of
science, what Artemis is going to do,
Pierce, is perhaps pave the way for us
to extend our consciousness, our
civilization into the solar system, into
the universe beyond. Because what
happens if a large meteorite, a huge
asteroid impacts the Earth, god forbid,
or a global pandemic happens again? And
all those reasons, by the way, are
reasons that Bart should support the
mission of NASA, which has provided such
a great deal of technology that has
enabled him, if he's ever been on a
commercial airliner, I used to work for
NASA, working on aviation safety. NASA
does a whole lot more than just landing
on the moon, as amazing as that is. And
they do it all peers for a budget that's
equal to what women in America spend on
makeup. About 20 to$25 billion. Most
people think it's 10 times higher. It's
very low amount of money. We're going to
go there. We're going to build
telescopes. We're going to uh explore
habitation there. We're going to build
rockets cuz the moon is full of ice and
its craters that are shadowed. The ice
is hydrogen and oxygen.
>> You know, I think it's gonna be great.
And I I love all this stuff.
>> Like I got a toy. Oh no. It's too late
for my toy. It's too late for my toy.
Also, slightly misogynistic there with
the with the makeup thing. I don't know.
Whatever. Not Not really. It's fine.
But, uh, yeah, Brian is scrambling to
try to say a bunch of because he
couldn't get it in during that
interaction. I'm a little bit
disappointed. But, let's let's finish
this here.
>> And I think the answer to the whole
thing is that when they actually send
people to walk on the moon again, they
should send Bart up there. Uh, Bart, you
should you should get on the rocket and
>> let's do a debate there, Bart.
>> Yeah. and and we can con continue the
debate on the surface of the moon and
then Bart my opening line would be see
told you
got to leave it there thank you all very
much thank you
>> so it just unfortunately like
if someone's watching this who's in
Bart's camp they're just seeing Piers
being smug which is fine he should be
smug Bart is a douchebag and I would be
smug to him as well but what I also
would do is debunk punk every dumb thing
out of his mouth conclusively,
repeatedly, aggressively to his fate. We
really didn't get almost anything. Uh, I
am struggling to remember any I'm
struggling to remember a single thing, a
single instance in which Brian uh really
conclusively debunked something that
Bart said. I think that a few times he
pointed out a discrepancy between the
claim like he was like uh oh but there
well he didn't mention that the that the
Van Allen probe was unshielded but he
did say you're you're being disingenuous
about the trajectory of the of this
shuttle. Right. So there there was a
handful of those moments but they were
few and far between and and too quiet.
Um you got to you got to pummel these
guys and not let them get away. you have
to force them to ex to uh respond to
what you're saying and not change the
subject. Um so that uh I'm being honest
uh if I'm being honest that that was
worse than I thought it would be. I
thought that Brian would uh be able to
um you know beat him up a little bit. Uh
and we did not get that. So that sucked.
Let's see what else we have going here.
>> Uh Professor Keing, thank you very much.
Thank you, Pearson. Thank you, Barb.
>> Let's turn now to two men who most
certainly know fact from fiction when it
comes to space travel. Charlie Duke is
an Apollo astronaut, the 10th and
youngest man to walk on the surface of
the moon. A legendary actor and
part-time astronaut. William Shatner,
sometimes known as Captain Kirk of the
USS Enterprise, particularly by men of
my generation who were weaned on
>> I like how they were probably like,
"Hey, Charlie, do you want to talk to
this douchebag Bart again?" And he's
like, "Uh, no thanks. I'm super old.
Don't make me go through that again.
That was torture the first time. Uh,
poor Charlie.
>> That glorious character. Welcome to both
of you. Uh, Charlie Duke. Um, what an
amazing thing to have walked on the
moon. Just we've got some footage of
you. Uh, which I'll just show my viewers
to to remind them of your great moment.
Let's have a look at this.
>> Hey, John, while you're sampling there,
you might look around and see if you see
any particular bault.
That's what I'm looking for.
>> Good show.
>> I told him you were
okay.
>> We see that one went all the way in.
>> Not quite.
And my first thought watching that,
Charlie, was like,
>> as an aside, too, just like how
cool would it be to walk on the moon? I
want to walk on the moon so bad, and
it's definitely not going to happen.
It's just really, really, really uh
very, very, very slim chance. I mean, I
it would have to be I'm 42.
Let's say in 25 years I'll be 67 if I
still have you know would have it in me
to like what what will commercial space
travel like assuming there's any at all.
Uh like I I think definitely there will
be kind of like go up to orbit and back.
Uh but there there's just no way that
there's going to be any access for
commercial space travel to the to the
lunar surface in that short time in that
short of a time span. Uh and if by some
miracle there is, it'll be like a
$10 million ticket that I can't
afford. Uh so I just have to accept that
I will never walk on the moon or any
other uh body of the solar system. But
uh god damn it, I want to so bad. It
would be so cool to walk on the moon. Uh
oh man,
>> I a couple of months ago I tripped and
broke my hip. Uh and if I'd been in an
airless environment like that, I
probably would have escaped without
injury. So I'm very jealous of the fact
that you were falling over there in such
conditions. But to be serious for a
moment, you were 36 when you walked on
the moon, the youngest to do it at the
time in 1972. Just a basic question.
What was it like?
>> Well, it was one of the most exciting
adventures that uh I've ever had uh in
my life. Of course. Uh we uh enjoyed
every moment of it. Uh we had three
excursions out on the surface. Uh we had
a tremendous uh opportunity to explore
the lunar highlands um for three days.
And John and I uh didn't want to come
home. We were having so much fun, but
they said, "Get back inside, guys. It's
time to come back." So, anyway, we did a
great job. I thought uh corrected 200 lb
of moon rocks and uh and uh did a lot of
good experiments and left a lot of
experiments up there to operate. So, uh
it was a tremendous uh opportunity for
us. You also uh had another uh
extraordinary role in the first lunar
landing uh when you famously responded
to Neil Armstrong saying the Eagle has
landed with the words Roger twang
tranquility. We copy you on the ground.
You got a bunch of guys about to turn
blue. We're breathing again. Thanks a
lot. Which was fantastic. Yeah, I was I
was so excited uh that uh Tranquility
came out twang at first and uh so I
corrected myself. I Neil had told me
that he was changing a call sign to
Tranquility from uh uh Apollo 11 or
whatever, Eagle. And uh so I was
prepared for it, but it was so exciting
a moment there. you know, we landed with
maybe 20 seconds fuel remaining and so
there was a lot of tension and uh when
uh Neil said uh well Buzz said contact
engine stop and we're there on the
ground uh it was uh just excitement got
me in twang came out instead of
tranquility.
>> William Shatner, welcome back to
Uncensored. Always great to talk to you.
You obviously went to space recently and
you were very emotional I remember about
uh the experience understandably. How
much would you have liked to have walked
on the moon like Charlie and how envious
are you of this latest mission which is
the precursor potentially to people
doing it again? Well, these guys uh like
test pilots and explorers and people who
venture out into essentially the unknown
enjoy it like it's a thrill like I mean
falling like you described you fell on
earth and you had difficulty you broke
your hip and
>> he falls on the moon
and there's nobody there to help him up
>> right
>> and he's got a pack on his back it's
awkward. ward. He He's alone.
>> Yeah.
>> These explorers, these test pilots,
these astronauts,
>> they get off on the on the adventure.
>> We ordinary people have to imagine what
it's like to see flame going past your
window wondering whether the shields are
going to hold or not, whether 20 seconds
of fuel is enough to get back up. And
there's this whole exploration
mentality
that requires I mean it's insanity
really to want to do that and they're
insane in a great way.
>> Yeah, it's very courageous. I mean I do
think sometime like you know Apollo 13
uh is obviously a great movie and um how
terrifying that must have been for
Levelville and the crew uh just to
wonder you know the all those different
variables like when they were coming
back if they could potentially just kind
of skip off Earth's atmosphere and then
just end up plum plummeting towards the
sun. I mean they would die before they
got to the sun but can you imagine just
esphyxiating in in the in the command
module slowly? Um, that'd be terrifying.
Or if something happens on the moon and
you fall and you smash your helmet with
a on a rock and just die that way. Or uh
in the movie Gravity when Sandra Bulock
with the right the the it gets hit and
then she's kind of like tumbling
backwards and they have to go get her.
But can you imagine just like that's how
you die is you're just in that tumble
and you there there's no way to exert
any kind of force to correct the tumble.
You're locked into that tumble and you
just drift away from the earth until you
die. And and that is what happened to
George Clooney's character, right? Uh I
think he just sort of drifted until he
ran out of air. I mean that it's it's
utterly terrifying. So I don't sign me
up for that, but sign me up for the
thing when they've been doing it for a
while for, you know, in a commercial
way. Uh and I don't want to be the first
one for that either, but uh I'll I'll be
like number 50 or something. Uh, but
like I said, that's just there's no way.
There's no way that's gonna happen. My
kids, maybe. My kids when they're
middle-aged,
that's possible. That could happen. Uh,
man, I'd like to see that. Um, man, this
got me this got me wistful here. For
furthering us, but these people going up
in Artemis, they're in the same
tentative position. They don't know
whether that shield is going to hold.
They don't know whether the hel the the
the hydrogen's going to explode. And I
when I went up and I on my way up the
gantry I passed by the off gasing. I
said, "What's that?" They said, "It's
hydrogen." I said, "Hydrogen? That's one
of the most explosive elusive gases we
have." They're dealing with the unknown.
They're dealing with exploration.
They're dealing with death.
>> Have they come to grips with what death
is? What's on the other side? All those
enormous questions are all those
enormous questions. Death
ah shatner
>> are I I don't know whether there's the
astronauts are sitting in the Artemis uh
thing right now but you can imagine them
leaning back looking up into the sky
waiting for this explosion under them
wondering whether they're going to live
or die and see their children and their
loved ones again.
>> I I I feel exactly the same way. I I
just want to show viewers a clip of you
in space because it was great. Let's
take a look at this.
>> God
>> weightlessness.
Oh Jesus.
>> No description.
Can't eat this. Wait,
>> this is nuts.
>> Oh god.
I think there's an outside chance I'll
get to do one of these, right? It has to
get 50 times more frequent and common
and like 50 times cheaper cuz uh you
know, if this was like
10 grand or something, I would do that.
I would I would I would shell out 10
grand for that. Um but it's not. It's
way more than that. So, and I don't see
I don't like there was uh some of you
might have saw I I had an application a
video application on my channel for
space for humanity. It ended up being a
total bust. I think it's just some uh
they were just, you know, drumming up
publicity for the organization, but it
was like, oh, submit your application
and then, you know, we'll pick people
and then you'll go up on the thing. And
it wasn't like this. I think it was more
like a balloon base, but you did uh did
get up uh outside of Earth's atmosphere.
So, um, but, uh, yeah. So, like it's
we're always kind of on the precipice of
this stuff commercially and it's just it
never really fully gets there. Um, but
th this is this could happen. This this
could potentially I'm I'm I'm holding
out for for something like this. I think
this this could h if I could just see a
a large chunk of the Earth from space.
um you know, not even to to low Earth
orbit, but just like from this height.
Uh I'd be satisfied with that. That'd be
something. It'd be something. Uh it's
not it's not going to, you know, another
star system and exploring exoplanets,
but uh it's something, you know.
>> This is Earth.
>> Holy hell.
I mean an amazing experience and you
like I said you got emotional afterwards
but I you know I do remember very
vividly I was born in ' 65 and I
remember watching the original series of
Star Trek which I think I think there
were three series weren't there of the
of the original television show
>> three years yeah
>> three years and you know it was the
mission statement was to boldly go where
no man has gone before and What I just
remember being struck by and
particularly is now I look back on it
was how kind of multicultural
the starship enterprise was. You had Mr.
Sulu Czechov Ahuru. It was this was a
real visionary thing that you guys were
putting on TV.
>> It was it it was visionary television
but it reflected what the visionary was
happening on earth. That was the time
when things were uh uh being built and
the concept of going into space was new
and and uh exciting.
>> This shot, this thing, this Artemis
thing,
>> I think is even more precarious than any
of the others because there's so many
unknowns. These are ships that haven't
been flown that way before. There's
technology that hasn't been used.
There's four inexperienced
trained but inexperienced astronauts.
The trepidation on this thing that's
happening in our lifetime and in in our
present day is
ranks with Shackleton and Scott and
exploration of the uh South Pole which I
was at and I sat on a ice cap that was a
desert. There was nothing around. There
was nothing.
Imagine nothing around you. You're for
lawn.
>> We have We have a man. We We have a man
sit sitting here still. Uh Charlie Juke
who can not only imagine it, he he was
there. He was on the moon on his own.
>> I know. So you you you need to explore
that mind, that mindset. When he fell
over, did he think I'm going to die?
>> Well, let's ask him. Let me let me ask
him, Charlie,
>> like a turtle.
>> He's like, Shatner, you've talked a long
time, brother. We've got we've got an
actual astronaut here. Uh yeah, you keep
talking about him falling over over and
over again. Let's chat with Charlie a
little bit while he's still alive.
>> Turtle like a turtle on his back.
>> Well, let me let me ask the man himself
able to get up.
>> We can ask him. Charlie, what what did
you feel when you fell over?
>> Well, when I fell down, I said, I got to
get up. Uh we practiced and practiced
and practiced. We've been in the zerog
airplane. We've done that in on bad.
I've fallen on my back. I've ditched
this. And uh we had we practiced all of
that. And so uh we were prepared uh for
these uh un
unusual eventualities. But uh it wasn't
like it was something that uh we hadn't
thought about. Uh yeah, we fell down.
How do we get up? It's one thing to
practice for it.
>> It's one thing to practice and practice
and practice and somebody says, "Are you
okay?" "Yeah, I'm okay. I'm practicing."
It's another thing to be forlororn in on
a on a planet that there's no there's no
way out. You're
you're fallen and you can't get up. I
mean, that's just one of the things. 27.
It's 16. There's gravity. He just kind
of went like this and got back on his
feet. I feel like I mean it's a it's a
funny moment. I I feel like we're really
really fixating on Charlie falling over
uh that one time. He was there for like
a full day. They did a bunch of cool
stuff. Like let's talk about something
else, man.
>> Seconds of fuel. You got to get back up
there and and rendevu. I mean the things
are extraordinary.
>> I mean on that point I mean it's a great
point by by Bill. I mean Charlie obvious
obviously this
>> Wait a minute. here.
>> Well, the question I was going to ask
you was it obviously carries enormous
risk obviously and this Arteimus 2 is
the most powerful rocket that NASA have
ever fired up and it's going the
furthest distance uh in terms of to the
sort of dark side of the moon literally
uh that we've sent people in relation to
the moon. So, this carries with it
enormous obvious jeopardy. How do you
when you were doing this, how do you
deal with the potential
of not coming back, of just something
terrible going wrong?
>> Uh, we never thought about it. Uh,
>> we were sitting on the
>> I can't believe,
>> Charlie. I can't believe that.
>> Okay,
>> that was a that was an ass.
>> We had never thought about not coming
back. We had we had we had trained uh if
you got caught if it if it exploded it
exploded. We had an out
uh a an escape system on top of the
spacecraft for liftoff if the thing
exploded. I mean it NASA had thought
about all of those things. You just know
that if it was going to happen in some
way and the suit split open or you got
hit by a meteorite, it just wasn't your
day. Yeah, but Charlie, you got to
remember the challenger.
>> The challenger, the challenger is before
us all.
>> Those of us who haven't trained and have
your mindset think challenger and
Artemis and if Artemis fails, what a
psychological blow that would be to the
space program.
I mean, there's so many complex things
happening here.
>> Yeah. I don't like Shatner, why are you
like lecturing Charlie? He went to the
moon. Uh I I like he's really
worked up. I don't know what what this
is all about. I mean, he went up on
Apollo 16, so 11 uh 12 uh 14 and 15
landed before him. Um so I mean, yeah,
it like yeah, there's risk, right? Of
course, something could go wrong,
obviously. But it's not like, you know,
it was a lot more nerve-wracking for 11
cuz they nobody had ever landed on it
before. So, they were uh you know, the
the the fifth mission to land on the
moon. Um they kind of got it down by
then. Um you know, something could go
wrong. But it's like I'm not really
surprised to hear Charlie say that they
didn't not that it never crossed their
mind, but they don't fixate on it,
right? because they've done this a bunch
of times and they're like every they
have a a plan and a strategy for every
uh eventuality,
every possibility. So yeah, if you're
standing on the lunar surface and you
get struck by a micrometeorite right
through the visor and all the air leaves
and you die. I mean, yeah, okay, but
like what do you why are you I mean you
could get you could die in a car wreck
every day of your life. Anytime you go
on the freeway, you could die. We don't
think about that. We just don't like you
could but why would you? Um I don't know
like why why why are you here Shatner? I
don't know man. Like you I you're not
you're kind of detracting. I wish we
were just talking to Charlie honestly
here to those of us who don't have your
ability to deny the the potential of
death.
>> We uh do you remember Apollo one?
Apollo one blew up on the pad
>> in a training accident. It caught fire.
They were killed.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, I remember that.
>> Because of some
>> All right.
>> But it didn't stop us. No.
>> We said, "We got to fix this thing. We
got to fix it and do it right." And so
it took a
>> I'm not talking about redesign the
spacecraft.
>> I'm I'm talking about your frame of
mind. I mean the challenger set back
psychologically the space program for a
long while. If Artemis fails, what a
psychological blow that is. If Artemis
is successful, what a glorious thing for
the space program and progress to the
moon.
Well, let me tell you, if it fails,
we're going to try again.
>> We're not going to stop. That is just
the attitude of the space program,
attitude of the United States of
America, and an attitude with the
astronauts. We're going to make it
successful. It might not be right away,
but we're going to make it successful.
It's something that we're committed to
and we're going to do it right. If it
doesn't work right, then we're going to
fix it. And just like we did on Apollo
after Apollo one uh caught fire, just
after uh
a couple of others uh that almost didn't
make it back. Uh Apollo 13 uh mission
control and and a crews came through and
made a spacecraft that was built for two
guys for three days. made it last for
three or four guys for no three guys for
five days. So I mean there's just you
know Charlie as you're talking as you're
talking Charlie all I can think is to
Bill Shatner. You know who would be 100%
in agreement with everything Charlie is
saying? Captain Tim James T. Kirk. He
would have exactly the same mindset.
>> Yeah. Can we talk to him instead of this
guy? Because actually it's it's
the never never stop dreaming, you know,
boldly go where no one's been before.
It's that that motivates people. I mean,
Charlie, just just to ask you, I mean,
if we do get back on the moon, what
advice would you give for the astronauts
who who make that next amazing?
>> Drink a lot of water.
>> Drink a lot of water. Well, uh, if the
just I they haven't the first landings
on the moon, whatever Artemis that is in
a couple of years, I hopefully have a
chance to uh be around to uh give them
some advice if they want it. And uh it's
just train, be prepared.
>> That's what we did over and over and
over again. It was like doing it in your
sleep.
uh we had trained so much. We'd worked
with mission control. We'd work with the
crew. We'd worked with the rover. We
trained and trained and trained. And so
that that is the the motivation behind
the
Apollo crews
and uh what Artemis is, those guys,
they're not just going out into the into
the ether uh with no training. if
they're
>> and Charlie out of
>> interest be well prepared
>> out of interest what do you feel what do
you feel about the conspiracy theorists
who think that all the moon the moon
landings were all uh invented they never
happened they're fake
>> well the moon moon land the evidence is
overwhelming that we landed on the moon
you're willfully ignorant if you don't
believe that we landed on the moon five
six times and The evidence is there. We
left experiments packages. It's been
photog every landing spite has been
photographed by the lunar reconnaissance
orbiter. You can see the descent stage.
You can see the experiments package. You
can see the cars on the last three
missions. And uh and the the uh the
experiments have been operating or they
operated for five years and got tons of
data. We've got 600 lb of moon rocks.
Where did they come from? They just
didn't mindet and we brought them.
>> What's the mindset of
>> What's the mindset of somebody who says
to these brave individuals and all the
taxpayers money that went to making that
happen? What is the mindset of somebody
who said, "Well, it didn't really
happen." I mean, that's nihilistic.
That's like the denial of humanity.
They're these crazy individuals
shouldn't have our attention. It's uh
it's absurd.
>> Charlie, do you have any of the moon a
home? Did you keep a bit?
>> Uh no. Uh they gave me a moon rock after
40 years, but I had to give it away. Uh
so I gave it to uh my prep school down
in uh Admiral Farragut Academy. There
two moon walkers graduated from there.
Me and Alan Shepard.
Shepherd forest and then me.
>> That's amazing. I have a watch. I have a
watch with moon dust on it.
>> Really fantastic.
>> Yeah.
>> I've got a Captain James T. Kurt
baseball cap. That's all I can
contribute to this debate. Uh gentlemen,
what a fascinating uh time talking to
all I can think of looking at both of
you. I I know your ages. I don't need to
repeat them, but I hope I have half the
vitality for life and curiosity and
excitement about what we don't know as
you two guys have. You are an
inspiration to all of us mere 61 year
olds. So, thank you very much indeed to
both of you.
>> Thank you for having us. It's great
great to see you, Charlie. Bye-bye.
>> I hope I hope I'm I hope I'm still
around when we make that first landing
in that next. That would be that would
be
>> much for having me.
>> Charlie and I will walk hand in hand to
greet the
>> That would be brilliant, wouldn't it? I
would love that. Can I come too?
>> Yeah,
you may.
I told I told NASA I'm still feel I'm am
still at 90 I'm still physically
qualified to go into space really
>> but NASA says don't call us we'll call
you so I'm not expecting a call
>> great to talk to you both thank you both
very much indeed
>> pleasure thank you pleasure to see you
>> been a pleasure thank you Peter
>> thanks Charlie take care
is proudly independent the only boss
around here is me if you enjoy
We also
>> Okay, that's enough of from you, Pierce.
You young 61-year-old whippers snapper.
Uh yeah, that's fun for him. So, uh
yeah, that was uh that was something.
That second half was was quite different
in spirit. Um
uh yeah. Yeah, Shatner's got his moon
dust. That's very adorable. Uh but
anyway, yeah. So, so the first bit was
uh honestly worse than I thought. Uh I
thought Keading did not really do or say
much of anything to uh ruin Bart,
although Bart did humiliate himself a
fair amount as well. Um was really just
kind of uh smuggness, which is
justified, but without any of the uh
without any of the the backing of of
ruining and cornering uh that kind of a
fraud. So that was disappointing. And
then we got Shatner rambling
and and a and a couple of anecdotes from
Charlie. So, um, yeah, very interesting.
I mean, just the more I learned about
the Apollo missions, they really were
incredible. It's really astounding that
we were able to do that at that time.
Um, and it was so magnificent that we're
only now kind of uh taking the next
step. We really, it took a long time to
to get back there. But uh, yeah,
everyone is really excited about Artemis
2. I am as well. Um, I think that I will
uh I I will most likely do uh do content
mocking some flat-earthers and things
like that. You know, those kinds of
people that are uh flipping out about um
about about Artemis 2. Um just kind of
letting some of that compile so that I
could go find it and watch everyone
freaking out and fake fake fake.
Everything's fake because I say so. Uh
end of argument. Uh and I probably will
also do some content um commenting on on
technical aspects of Artemis 2, what
what we can expect for Artemis 3 because
there's there is a lot there, right? The
Orion spacecraft is completely different
spacecraft from the ones used in the
Apollo missions and so how is it
different and um you know what is the
plan for Artemis 3? Hopefully I can talk
to somebody kind of on the inside there.
Uh, so yeah, that's that was uh that was
fun. That's that's what I've got
planned. Uh, I I am going to a lot of
people asked uh for me to finish off the
Bill Nye Kenham debate. Uh, so I I will
almost certainly do that as well. I just
wanted to do this one first because it's
very topical. Uh Artemis 2 is currently
uh you know the mission is happening
right now and this piece just came out
from peers uh a couple days ago. Three
day April. Yeah, a couple days ago. So
uh yeah, that was that. Lots more
reactions coming, lots more debunks
coming, lot of different topics. Um uh I
won't spoil anything, just uh they're
all in the works right now. uh a bunch
of them uh kind of simultaneously uh
crystallizing as we speak. So, I will
get back to those and uh yeah, thanks
for watching. Uh I'll see you soon.